Reds Fire Wayne Krivsky

Well that came out of left field...

Signing Corey Patterson :-)

The Kearns-Lopez trade had nothing to do with anything. Kearns & Lopez are both terrible so the Reds didn't lose much on the deal. What did Wayne in were all the bad contracts to Cormier, Stanton, Castro, Freel, Patterson, and even Arroyo's extension that looks bad right now. Castellini isn't messing around and when he brought Jocketty in it was only a matter of time.

It's all about relationships. Castellini and Jockety go way, way back.

Kearns and Lopez are not terrible...one bad season does not take away past success, especially before one hits their prime.

its actually pretty remarkable how good his record is... for a GM to get 2 stars (hamilton, phillips) for nothing in just a few years is pretty incredible.

let's not forget, the reds blew terribly when krivsky took over, now they're somewhat respectable

"Signing Dusty Baker.

He's got young arms in the rotation and a base clogger in Dunn and he signs Dusty Baker."

As a Reds fan I can say that Dusty has been very careful with Cueto and Volquez so far, with neither of them topping 100 pitches. Dunn can actually steal some bases a la Matt Holliday if he really wanted to...

Jocketty's To Do List:
1) Extend Dunn
2) Trade for a decent hitting catcher and can 2 out of Bako/Ross/Valentin
3) Call up Bruce and Bailey, trading one of Hopper/Freel and moving Belisle to the bullpen
4) Get rid of Josh Fogg

Krivsky has done alot to the reds in order for them to have made some noise around the league. But making noise isnt enough in the MLB, no need to make playoff noise. The reds have only come close once in recent years. Although Krivsky has done a solid job to this point, I think the way the team has come out of the gates rather sluggish spurred this move. Obviously the on feild play cannot be blammed on the GM but it was the straw that broke the camels back, clearly everyone was pushing for Jockety to take over. Im interested to see what happens, but as a reds fan I do not want to see krivsky take over a team from the division, he has potnetial to put together a winning team

Tim, and others....Looking back at the Reds/Nationals Trade..i think you have to put it into perspective....at the time of that trade, it was the trade deadline, and the reds needed RP.....to get RP they had to give up quite a bit....Majewski's stats for the year were pretty impressive at the time of the trade, he just happend to be injured, and not pan out afterwards.... Plus the reds at that time, had way to many OF, and no place for Felipe to play

well...Clayton, made up for Felipe's absenteeism for the year at least

Majewski had an ERA of like 3 prior the trade that year...and 2.5 the year before...he was good prior to the injury.

and dont forget bray and thompson are still developing.....Thompson the suprise of all...is tearing it up in the minros this season

I really dont think this Move had as much to do w/ Krivsky's performance, as it did w/ the 2 didnt get along personally, and Jockety is an old friend of Bobby C

The Nats trade really isn't THAT bad looking when you see Bill Bray is efficient when he can be healthy. Also Daryl Thompson is lights out right now. 23.2 innings pitched with 2 earned runs and 25 K's to 1 walk.

The trade failed in what it attempted but could still prove to help in the future.

Krivdawgs biggest problem was signing bad extensions and FA's. Castro WAS needed at the time of signing. But when Lopez was traded his role became useless. He jumped the gun on Ross while he was in the midst of his best offensive year ever. Although I guys you can say that didn't flop because Ross came back not hitting but was extremely good defensively.

Basically he had a few GREAT moves, some ok moves and many flat out awful moves.

as an idiot on John Fay's insider blog used to post in regards to Castellini.... What...jocketty hasnt made the reds a better team yet.....WAKE UP CINCY FIRE JOCKETTY

Krivsky was pretty decent as the Reds GM.The trades listed weren't that bad. He did well sending Bruce down along with Bailey.But that Patterson signing did hurt the resume a bit. Could've been influenced by Baker on that signing though.

Ned Colletti should be next in the unemployment list.

I'm a biased Jays fan, but those list of moves look excellent.

Seems to be very little patience overall in Cincy. Managers are always changing, and now the GM is out after just a bit over 2 years on the job? They haven't had a couch stick around for longer than 3 seasons since Pete F'n Rose.

I don't think this move has as much to do with what Krivsky didn't accomplish... but more about the reputation of Jocketty. Jocketty is a very good GM. I think overall, Krivsky did a solid job. One person mentions his giving up Kearns and Lopez for spare parts. The problem is, Kearns and Lopez are spare parts. Plus, Lopez is a clubhouse cancer. Neither has done particularly well since being traded to Washington.

His big moves were picking up Phillips, Aorroyo, and Hamilton. He still has the prior two, and Hamilton brought forth Volquez. He also made good moves by not trading a few top prospects for someone like Bedard, as was rumored this offseason.

He hands the team over to Jocketty in much stronger shape than when he got it.

Harris was useless once the infield of Encarnacion-Gonzalez-Phillips was set.

Tim, I have to disagree with you that Kearns/Lopez had higher trade value than what Krivsky got. As I recall, there was a market for Majewski before the world realized he was damaged goods. The market for Kearns was stagnate at best, primarily due to the fact that he simply could not keep himself on the field. Lopez had one truly good season with the bat, and was (still is) viewed as a terrible defensive SS. Before the trade, Lopez was beginning to tank... showing his one good year was more a fluke than the norm.

I do not recall there being much of a market for either Kearns or Lopez at the time (at least not in terms of any real value), but I do recall a market for Majewski. I'm not the expert that you are in this regard, however. For Krivsky to get Majewski and a decent pitching prospect in Thompson (prior to Majewski's health issues being known) for an oft-injured Kearns and a dwindling Lopez seemed like a decent deal at the time.

In my opinion, Tim nailed it. Kearns and Lopez had much more value at the time. (I don't mean now... I mean at the time... July 2006.)

Kearns was healthy and was the Reds everyday RF. He was batting .274/.351/.492 with 16 HR and 50 RBI a little past halfway through the season.

Lopez was healthy and was the Reds everyday SS. He was batting .268/.355/.394 with 9 HR and 23 SB.

I'll agree w/ you that Lopez's defense was and is bad. But still... he traded 2 out of his 8 everyday players... off of a team that was in contention!

Majewski had shoulder problems and got a cortisone shot in May 2006 that was public knowledge -- if memory serves it was reported in the Washington Times!!

Daryl Thompson was in A-ball at the time. I hope he pans out and makes this a win for the Reds.

Anyway... the point I'm trying to make is that based on the players' values AT THE TIME Wayne got hosed.

I really don't remember a trade in the last 10 years that got as widely panned, on the day it went through. And that was BEFORE Majewski went down.

(And overall, I actually think Wayne did a good job! But I think this trade was awful. I did 2 years ago and I do now.)

Krivsky's abrasiveness is what got him canned. He lacks the relationship skills to be a successful GM over a long period of time.

Aside from the high upside guys, Cincy's roster this year is a mess. Two LH 1Bs, Two RH 5th outfielders, 3 catchers, just DFAed 2 guys, need to DFA another (Fogg). Ownership wants to win now, and these are relatively small moves considering the talent that is on this roster. The current roster problems were evident sinse spring training and its been a month and no resolution.

We have a deep farm make this team win now dammit, let's bring up Bailey, trade Hatteburg and Freel, get a RH bat, solve the catcher problem, and dump Fogg and Coffey.

Why is Coffey still playing in the major leagues?????? Why did Juan Castro make the roster out of spring training?????

One thing I will never forget about Krivsky is the fact that he signed david weathers to an extension. Anyone who has ever seen him pitch knows that he is not worth keeping to sell hot dogs during day games. the fact that it wa sonly recently he "went on the DL" discusts me. Hopefully Jockety realizes this and wont let him back with the team. I mean come on, DANNY GRAVES was a better closer. And in terms of todd coffey, hes not as pathetic but another one that the sooner we can get rid of him, the better

Offering Freel and one of our shitty catchers for Blanton is the most ignorant thing I've ever heard.

Jocketty will waste little time making a splash. I predict he'll acquire a decent front-line catcher within a month. It's the Reds most glaring need, and it doesn't make "sense" to change GMs if the new GM doesn't do something to justify the move.

And I still think Homer Bailey for Jarrod Saltalamacchia is the way to go.

If Salty isn't ready to play in Texas what makes you think he's ready to play in Cincinnati? Norris Hopper was just placed on the DL and David Ross was activated. I'd say the team's most glaring need is a power RH bat off the bench. Going after someone like Brandon Inge (who could also catch) or Joe Crede isn't a bad idea.

I would rather have a starting rotation of Harang-Arroyo-Volquez-Cueto-Bailey and allow our #1 pick last year to continue to develop than trade away Bailey for a weak defensive catcher who is most likely to end up as a 1B...

Exactly, which is why you should never even think of trading Bailey for him.

For seven years now, the Reds have been LOSERS and for seven years Adam Dunn and KGJ have been the centerpieces of the team. In fact, they are the ONLY constants over that time period.

The Owners have changed. The stadium has changed. The GM's ahve changed. The Managers ahve changed. The Hitting Coaches have changed and the Pitching Coaches ahve changed.

The ONLY constant has been the Home Run first approach as far as the Offense goes.

During the second half of 2007, the Reds hit LESS Home Runs but the average Runs per Game went up. This was because the team BGating Average went up and they hit more Doubles.

These things happened after Norris Hopper and Jeff Keppinger (two GOOD hitters) were inserted into the top two spots of the order and Brandon Phillips was moved from the two hole to the clean up spot.

Until Ca$htellini comes to realize that GOOD ball players are needed on the team, he can change GM's and Managers as much as he wants but the results will still BE LOSING.

The Reds overpaid for Cordero and traded Hamilton away for Volquez to try and improve the Pitching staff. They also brought up Cueto. WHat has been the results? LOSING!! Why? Because of the Offense, "led" by Adam Dunn.

Different guys have been put in front of Dunn and behind him to try and get him going but it hasn't worked and will not likely work in the future because Dunn IS NOT A GOOD HITTER (or Defensive player either, for that matter).

Saltalamacchia doesn't HAVE to be a solid defensive catcher. I've heard comparisons to Mickey Tettleton tossed around, and that seems fair. There are plenty of catchers with mediocre to poor reputations who lack Jarrods offensive upside.

The Reds should keep one defensive catcher as a backup and starter when they play running teams like the Mets, and play Salty the rest of the time.

Saltalam... you know who... can grow with the Reds organization along with the plethora of young talent. And why the love for Bailey? He hasn't done anything except earn a reputation for being difficult. And not all pitchers reach the ceiling originally projected for them. Still, his Texas roots hold appeal for a team that has been pitching starved, and the Rangers are knee-deep in catching talent. It represents a solid fit.