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By Tim Dierkes [June 24, 2008 at 8:51am CST]
Time for a new Ken Rosenthal column.
- Rosenthal reminds us that, among other things, Adam Dunn played with a broken hand for a couple of months in '05. So maybe he does like baseball. It's not fair to criticize a player's passion simply because he doesn't make the right facial expressions or throw tantrums (not saying J.P. Ricciardi did this, but many fans do).
- Mark Teixeira might be looking for eight years and $160MM. Rosenthal says not to count his hometown Orioles out, though they aren't the most likely suitor.
- Brian Cashman "seems likely to sign a contract extension" with the Yankees. Omar Minaya's job is safe.
- The Rockies might trade Brian Fuentes even if they're in contention. Add the Rays to the list of teams interested in him. The Rox still like the Mets' Aaron Heilman, by the way.
- The Braves are out of the starting pitching market, content with internal options.
- If the Brewers are to shop Prince Fielder, they'll likely wait until the offseason. Could be a fun rumor to follow this winter.
- Orioles relievers Jamie Walker and Chad Bradford both can be had (both are signed through '09).
Brian Roberts is to 2007 offseason as Prince Fielder is to 2008 offseason.
Posted by: SWish | June 24, 2008 at 09:08 AM
Tex better pick his game up if hes looking for 20mil/yr.
On the other hand i dont think the Braves should be out of the market for another SP. i mean they dont need to break the bank but another decent #3 or 4 would be a great addition. The more SP the better.
Posted by: thedeuce | June 24, 2008 at 09:22 AM
I don't think the two are even comparable. Fielder = head and shoulders > Brian Roberts.
As for Teixera, I am one of the few O's fans against his signing. He'll cost too much money, and his production was a product of playing in Arlington, not because he's amazing. He's a solid 30-HR player, which is good production, and his defense is amazing, but I feel like this signing will turn out just like the Tejada signing, but more expensive. He's not a true #4 hitter, just like Tejada wasn't, and if the O's sign him, he'd be protected by someone like Aubrey Huff. We need a true #4 hitter - someone who could go off for 40+ on a regular basis, in addition to Tex. Hopefully we learned that from Tejada.
Posted by: dorfmac | June 24, 2008 at 09:24 AM
I was referencing the twice a day updates on the status of the trade, as it was with Johan Santana. Prince is obviously a higher caliber player than Roberts is.
Posted by: SWish | June 24, 2008 at 09:28 AM
Oh, and getting rid of Jamie Walker and Chad Bradford would be nice too...
Bradford is looking like the best he ever has, and should be worth at least a B prospect. He'd be a great pickup for any playoff team who likes ground balls.
Walker, on the other hand, isn't looking so hot, but if he can get the HR rate down, he'll look a lot better.
Posted by: dorfmac | June 24, 2008 at 09:28 AM
DORFMAC,
I dont think he was comparing Fielder to Roberts skill-wise. I think he was using the trade hype surrounding Roberts in that analogy
Posted by: jza1218 | June 24, 2008 at 09:29 AM
I wouldn't mind Bradford on the cubs - give Marmol more days off and insurance in case Howry doesn't pick it up in the 2nd half. Cedeno and Cotts get him? Maybe get him and a c prospect?
Posted by: touchmymonkey | June 24, 2008 at 10:08 AM
I'd like to think I am not a crazed Cubs fan...I still really like Cedeno though. I didn't expect Theriot to be nearly as good as he's been but I would just hang on to the surplus unless something really nice came along. Straight up for Randy Wolf for example.
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | June 24, 2008 at 10:14 AM
TEIXERA-It's not often that a player like TEX. would consider playing here in Baltimore. The O's have put a 100 million on the table only to be turned down (LEE). I say go for broke with Tex. the 20 mil. per season would be very reasonable, 25 to 30 a yr. then I would have to pass. Could you imagin Markakis,TEX,Weiters as the 3 threw 5 hitters and Reimold 6th? keeping Roberts would be smart if signing Teixera.Jones could fit in the 2 hole and I'm interrested in seeing Jones progress the second half on the season.Markakis rookie season is simlar to Jones right now.With a solid line-up along with the promising pitching could only lead to success.30+ home runs per season is ideal for a clean up hitter it being after the roids era.Tex. come to Baltimore!
Posted by: OUTL@W]EC[ | June 24, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Teixeira would be worth $20 mil in Baltimore. He would be the 1st firstbaseman since Raffy to hit 30+ HR. Also he is a hometown kid that the O's could put front in center in everything.
He would help sell tickets. Right now even winning the fans really haven't been showing up in droves to see the team. A lot of people want to see them try to sign big names. Also it isn't like the team can't afford it. They have the 20th highest payroll with Trachsel ($1.5 m), Payton ($5 m), Millar ($3.8 m) plus a few others if we trade them. So for real protection in the line up I'd say Teixeira is worth it.
Posted by: XD23 | June 24, 2008 at 11:36 AM
Tim,
"I'd like to think I am not a crazed Cubs fan...I still really like Cedeno though"
May I ask why? He seems to be doing everything possible to yet again prove himself the weak hitter we all saw in 2006 and 2007. The only real success he has ever enjoyed has come at Iowa, and he’s generally been more than a tad questionable everywhere else. This year, other than his one week in April, he has been the same 240-ish BA guy with the same sub-650 OPS. I’m curious if there is anything which can be given to begin to provide reason for the Cubs fans love of the guy; nearly everyone else seems to see a weak-hitting utility type. Considering you are not one of those which will just try to cram over-the-top fluff down our throats, would like to hear your thoughts…
I mean, “Straight up for Randy Wolf for example” would have to indicate someone fairly talented, yet most probably see him somewhere in the range of a slightly younger Alex Cintron…
Posted by: darkstar1661 | June 24, 2008 at 12:49 PM
I just can't shake two half-seasons of .900+ OPS at Triple A. To me that should translate to a .800 OPS in the bigs if he was left free to play every day (like the Orioles are doing with Adam Jones).
He took his lumps in '06, like many rookies do. After that he was seemingly written off as a big leaguer.
There is the issue of him being a bit of a "dumb" player, I admit. And he is anything but a lock. But he is still a controllable player with potential to be an above average regular. He could certainly become Cintron but I'd like to see. Cintron was considered the 62nd best prospect in the game in '01, ahead of plenty who became stars.
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | June 24, 2008 at 01:14 PM
Rosenthal needs to do some research on Adam Dunn. If you go back over the last eight years and read articles where Dunn has been interviewed, all he seems to want to talk about is FOOTBALL. In one of those articles, it said that Dunn carried around a football in his gym bag and would GLADLY get it out and throw with anybody who cared to play catch.
Also, if you look at Dunn's stats in September, he isn't that great. For his career, Dunn has gone 97 for 443 (a .219 Batting Average) with 18 Home Runs and 55 RBI's.
Part of this could be attributed to Dunn being a big guy and he is tired. Part of it could be that the Reds were out of contention (though in 2006 THAT was NOT the case). However, another part of this could be because September is the start of COLLEGE FOOTBALL season and Dunn is distracted by that and is thinking about what "might have been" if he had stayed at Texas and WORKED at getting better so that he could have been the Quarterback.
No, make no mistake about it, FOOTBALL is Dunn's PASSION and BASEBALL is just a JOB to him.
If that weren't the case, then Dunn coming out of Spring Training EVERY year saying that "this year is going to be different" and that he is going to try and Strike Out less and hit the ball to the opposite field more would actually happen and NOT just be lip service.
Posted by: ctownboy | June 24, 2008 at 01:22 PM
you guys really need to stop bashing Adam Dunn, maybe it's true baseball is not his passion, but stop already.
and why can't someone like both sports? maybe he does like football more, that does not mean he hates baseball
ken just made a point saying he played with a broken hands for a couple of months.
i find i hard to believe someone dislikes the sport but yet he plays with a broken hand.
Posted by: BxSquad | June 24, 2008 at 03:27 PM
CTOWNBOY
That is quite possibly the most idiotic logic I've ever heard...
Posted by: jza1218 | June 24, 2008 at 04:57 PM
As much as I would like this to happen, I don't know how plausible it would be.
I would like to see Braves get a 3/4 starter like a Randy Wolf/Greg Maddux and then a reliever like Marte/Fuentes and then a guy like Bay/Nady.
Posted by: BravesFanChris24 | June 24, 2008 at 06:38 PM
dorf outstanding post. Tex is going to be the lucky winner in the "who is the best player on the market lets sign him to an absurd amount of money" disease this winter. He is a good hitter, but a 1B, and not even a top 5 1B in MLB. The argument could be made not even top 10. Albert, Lee, Berkman, Howard, Prince, A-Gonz, Miguel Cabrera, Pena, etc. Some of these guys may be better, some of them may not be, but the point is they play 1B and 1B seem to grow on trees. The league is filled with either old 1B close to retirement after good careers, very good 1B in their primes, and the young up and coming studs. Point is, for as nice of a player as Tex is, he isn't that much better then a lot of other 1B in the league, and this leads you to believe that through smart drafting or trading, or even a waiver wire pickup you could get more value out of a 1B. Kendry Morales will give some great production at 1st and will do it for crumbs. Only 1B I am paying 20 mil per for is a guy named Albert. He is on his own level though. I feel this way about all the 1B, I wouldn't give a 8/160 deal to any 1B in baseball besides Albert, you can find good 1B options too easily to lazily spend that much money there.
Posted by: nrmax88 | June 25, 2008 at 08:50 AM
"No, make no mistake about it, FOOTBALL is Dunn's PASSION and BASEBALL is just a JOB to him. "
Even if that were the case, so what? We have this idea that everybody should love baseball because we love baseball. I have no problem with a guy that doesn't really love the game playing it for a living because they are good enough to do so and make a lot of money in the process. At other jobs all over the world, there are employees who are good at what they do but don't necesarrily enjoy it. This does not make them bad people, and it also does not mean that other companies that could use said employees would back away, simply because the job they do is not their passion.
Posted by: nrmax88 | June 25, 2008 at 08:56 AM
For example, I am not a big fan of ballroom dancing, or playing chess, but if I was a prodiguous chess player, or a top notch ballroom dancer, with enough talent to make an 8 digit salary, you bet you're a$$ that I would try to make a living one of these ways.
Posted by: nrmax88 | June 25, 2008 at 08:58 AM