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Dodgers Looking For Shortstop Help

TUESDAY, 3:49pm: MLB.com's Jim Molony chimes in on the Dodgers' hunt for a shortstop.  He says they'll give Nomar Garciaparra a chance, but they are also considering Toronto's David EcksteinBack on July 3rd, the Baltimore Sun suggested the Orioles were looking at Eckstein.

TUESDAY, 8:53am: Dejan Kovacevic puts the brakes on the Jack Wilson-to-L.A. rumor.  He says that while Wilson is not untouchable, the Pirates are not likely to trade him.  They consider him affordable and do not have a capable replacement.

Kovacevic says talks with the Dodgers "seem dormant," and the Dodgers never offered a player from their Major League roster.  Additional unknown teams have also called about Wilson.

MONDAY: John Perrotto of the Beaver County Times wrote an article Sunday concerning the Dodgers' pursuit of Pirates shortstop Jack Wilson.  Wilson, 30, is hitting .306/.348/.361 in 160 plate appearances this year.  He's under contract next year for $7.25MM with an $8.4MM club option for '10.  Wilson can block trades to six teams.

Perrotto wrote that Wilson is the Dodgers' primary trade target.  He says "a Dodgers source indicated that Los Angeles might be willing to deal center fielder Matt Kemp."  A Kemp acquisition would create a logjam until the Pirates are able to move Jason Bay or Xavier Nady.  Failing that, Perrotto's sources indicate the Bucs have interest in pitcher James McDonald and shortstop Chin-lung Hu

Ken Rosenthal wrote this morning that the Dodgers' bid for Wilson is on hold as they restructure their offer.  If the Dodgers get him, that should eliminate any chance of re-signing Rafael Furcal.


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Matt Kemp - Jack Wilson trade? Come on.....

Exactly what I was thinking. Is Ned Coletti really that dumb? As a Pirate fan, I hope he is.

Yeah I'm not really sure what Matt Kemp and Jack Wilson have to do with each other.

I could see McDonald or Hu going straight up for Wilson because LA seems to be panicking, but there is no way they could possibly give up Kemp. The guy is a budding star. If LaPorta can land the Brewers Sabathia, then honestly Kemp should be able to land nearly as much if not more.

I could see something like a Matt Kemp and Chin Lung Hu for Jason Bay, Jack Wilson and John Grabow deal. But Kemp is worth more than Wilson and its not even a discussion.

If the Dodgers are willing to trade Matt Kemp for Jack Wilson, I'm sure Theo is willing to trade Jed Lowrie for Clayton Kershaw.

I refuse to believe that this is even remotely true.

This doesn't make sense. But assuming Matt Kemp is in any trade talks, why wouldn't Ned Colletti explore other options. This is ridiculous, but I wouldn't count on Ned Colleti to make any smart move.

The Pirates want EVERYTHING for WIlson.

If the Dodgers trade Matt Kemp for Jack Wilson Ned Colleti will move past Brian Sebean as the worst GM in the game.

glad to see i wasn't the first one to go "matt kemp for jack wilson? WTF?"

what about a deal that would send xavier nady with jack wilson and possibly damaso marte or john grabow for ching lung hu and matt kemp?

i thought kemp was a player that would be the franchise player? what happened? I think he is a really good player!

Anyone who is shocked that Matt Kemp's name has come up in connection with Jack Wilson simply has not been following Ned Coletti's sorry career as a GM. Like a child who doesn't know the value of the fancy toy he's been given, he's been dragging Kemp around like an old shoe. It is time to take the toy away from the spoiled kid and give it to someone who might appreciate it. Congrats Pirates fans, that might be you!

The problem with Kemp is that he has no power. He has power "potential". But that really doesn't fly anymore because he's been up for two years. He can't hit any type of breaking ball, and although he is very fast, he is an awful baserunner. He has no patience, and doesn't walk very often. Ned would be wise to get something valueable for Kemp because he is so highly thought of around the league. Under Joe Torre and his staff Kemp hasn't really blossomed into what many had imagined. I can see Matt Kemp developing into a better player, but its gonna be under the right circumstances with the right coaching staff.

Since when do anyone but the elite of elite prospects come into the league and start bopping 20+ homers and meeting all expectations in their first couple seasons? Besides...he's only played 233 games to date, including tonight. This is his first full season. It's not fair to say he's been up for two years when he has indeed been mishandled.

I think that although Kemp has a great deal of issues, a lot of them have been created by the Dodgers' mishandling of him. If they had just given him a full season of at bats last year, he would be a far more developed ballplayer by now. He can still improve his baserunning and plate discipline, and when he does you'll see all of his stunning tools on display. The thing with Kemp was always that he was an athlete, but wasn't necessarily a great baseball player. Once his skills (still developing) catch up to his physical abilities, he could be scary.

Good. Then after the season Cubs could sign Furcal and have a unbelieveable line up.
Like.
C- Goevany Soto
1B- Derrek Lee
2B- Ryan Theriot
SS- Rafeal Furcal
3B- Aramis Ramirez
RF- Mark DeRosa
CF- Kosuke Fukudome
LF- Alfonso Soriano

Of course Kemp has been mishandled. What can the Dodgers do now? Hiring Joe Torre was just a stupid PR move that really wasn't in the best interest of the "young" Dodgers players. I think by trading Kemp and getting some established players for him is how the Dodgers should deal with him. Jack Wilson alone is a crazy idea because Kemp really could be a star. But there is a lot of time before the deadline and if Ned Colletti has half a brain he'll shop Kemp for the right bat.

anybody that gets furcal next season had better cross their fingers. he's truly great when he's healthy, but that wasn't last season and it's definitely not this season. what does this thread have to do with the cubs, anyway?

as far as kemp for wilson, that's a joke. kemp should stay. this is the best lineup (sans furcal) the dodgers can have right now.

No offense to what I'm sure is a fine paper, but an idle rumor from the Beaver County Times isn't going to get my undies in a bunch, and especially not one that has "Jack Wilson" and "Matt Kemp" in the same sentence. Period. Kemp's not going anywhere, and he's especially not going for Jack Wilson.

Thank God Nomar hit a home run tonight. More of that and maybe there'll be less worry about a Ned trade.

But Colletti's not dumb enough to do Kemp for Wilson. The end.

And hey, since Colletti gets piled on a lot here, sometimes by me, how about a tip of the hat at least for his Kuroda signing.

How about a paper bag on the head for Esteban Loaiza, Andruw Jones

i read that the kuroda acquisition is attributed to logan white. either way, it looks like it was a pretty great move.

At any rate, looks like this one's not likely to happen:

http://tinyurl.com/5rrsbw

"be able to trade?"

glad to hear it.

hope Nady get traded.. He KILLS the cubs!

To get Matt Kemp the deal would have to include Jack Wilson, Craig Wilson, Wilson Alvarez, Wilson Phillips, Woodrow Wilson, Gretchen Wilson, Owen Wilson, and two copies of Charlie Wilson's War on DVD.

aha im surprised about the wilson philips name drop. The fat one alone would be a deal breaker.

you would have to think those 2 events are unrelated.

Dodgers want Jack Wilson.
Dodgers willing to trade Matt Kemp (probably for Sabathia before the Brewers got him)

The thing here is someone putting them in the same paragraph.

Can't be any worse than the Royals wanting Kemp for 2 months of Dotel.

"Good. Then after the season Cubs could sign Furcal and have a unbelieveable line up.
Like. "

Great, then the cubs will once again lead the league in players destined for the DL...

We already have one too many LaRoche's!! No thanks

"Then after the season Cubs could sign Furcal and have a unbelieveable line up."

A lot of players on the wrong side of 30. Watch out.

"Great, then the cubs will once again lead the league in players destined for the DL..."

The Braves would like to have a word with you.

"The problem with Kemp is that he has no power."

"What can the Dodgers do now? Hiring Joe Torre was just a stupid PR move that really wasn't in the best interest of the "young" Dodgers players."

Wow, you apparently know nothing at all about the Dodgers. Have you seen Kemp hit the ball? The guy has power. You don't just look at HR numbers, you also look at doubles, and Kemp is among the team leaders. Dodger Stadium is always going to depress power numbers. Oh, and you said he couldn't hit breaking balls. Did you see what he did to Zambrano's slider?

Further, Torre was the best move the Dodgers could make. The guy has credibility, which instantly kills the ego of any player who thinks too highly of themselves. Further, he has been the one pulling the strings behind the most recent winning streak and the players have been buying into Torre's way of thinking. Remember, Torre's best managing job was the 1996 Yankees, who were also a rather young squad mixed with some vets.

What, is Mr. Angel Berroa not working out? Lol, what a loser. Glad he is out of KC (or Omaha). Wilson seems to make more sense, but Eckstein might be an appropriate temporary solution.

Julio Lugo and his entire contract for a bag of peanuts... okay, a handful of unsalted peanuts.

Though considering Ned Colletti's brilliant moves include Garciaparra, Pierre, and Jones, I suppose he might be willing to offer Kershaw and Broxton. (Whoever didn't get the sarcasm, here's a note explaining it.)

"What, is Mr. Angel Berroa not working out?"

Berroa has actually played very good defense. His acquisition was going to be nothing more than a stop gap until Furcal got back, which it seemed like he would at the time. The Dodgers picked him up essentially for free, so it isn't like they lost much. They just couldn't keep putting Hu in the lineup and sitting him in favor of Maza would have meant even fewer ABs to relocate his bat speed.

"Wilson seems to make more sense, but Eckstein might be an appropriate temporary solution."

Quite frankly, Eckstein makes more sense in 2 cases. First, if the Dodgers still plan on resigning Furcal at what will likely now be a lower rate, it works better than being tied to Wilson's contract as well. Second, if the Dodgers plan on going after Orlando Cabrera or someone else next year, it also makes sense.

"Though considering Ned Colletti's brilliant moves include Garciaparra, Pierre, and Jones"

A few things here. Jones was a terrible signing, and I don't think anyone denies that. The Dodgers didn't need a CF with Kemp already ML ready. The other two, you really have to look at in context. Garciaparra was coming off an excellent year in which he was the team's best player and is incredibly popular in Los Angeles. The deal he got was, in reality, not a terrible move. What they should have done last year is move him to 3B right away and bring Loney up at the beginning of the season. Then again, that was Grady Little's decision, not Ned Colletti's. As for Pierre, he has done exactly what he was expected to do. Very few K's, no power, lots of speed, good glove, no arm. The only thing Colletti did wrong was pay too much in the panic after Drew pulled his dickheaded move with the opt out.

Well who wouldn't want a guy who has helped 2 teams win a World Championship? And if im not mistaken Ekstein has won a World Series MVP. Yes i know he has little power and hes below par defensively...BUT...hes a clubhouse leader and HUSTLES! Id love to see Nomar and the X-Factor platoon at short...As for Wilson? Hes already been quoted NOT wanting a trade...plus hes too expensive.

And for all the NED haters out there do grant him this...hes actually MAKING blockbuster deals but his luck has been horrible...NOBODY thought Andruw Jones would be batting half his weight (yes hes fat), Schmidt blew up in his face, i actually like Pierre even though he lacks power, but u must ask urself this...would u rather still have Paul DePodesta??? The man who let Beltre get away...God i miss him (tear)

Well who wouldn't want a guy who has helped 2 teams win a World Championship? And if im not mistaken Ekstein has won a World Series MVP. Yes i know he has little power and hes below par defensively...BUT...hes a clubhouse leader and HUSTLES! Id love to see Nomar and the X-Factor platoon at short...As for Wilson? Hes already been quoted NOT wanting a trade...plus hes too expensive. Here's a thought...haven't looked into it much but...what about bringin Izturis back???

And for all the NED haters out there do grant him this...hes actually MAKING blockbuster deals but his luck has been horrible...NOBODY thought Andruw Jones would be batting half his weight (yes hes fat), Schmidt blew up in his face, i actually like Pierre even though he lacks power, but u must ask urself this...would u rather still have Paul DePodesta??? The man who let Beltre get away...God i miss him (tear)


First of all, ALL OF Neds signings have been completely of out panic.
Second, any move for Eckstein or Wilson or another mediocre SS would be so stupid, again. What do the Dodgers need the most?? HITTING
Having Nomar(fan fav) in the lineup helps, even if hes not the greatest defender now. If anything, they should trade for what they need most, POWER.
A trade for Bay or a power-hitting 3B would be a great deal for a HU, DeWitt or LaROche. That way they keep Mat Kemp AND get some reliable power.
NO MORE PANICED MEDIOCRE TRADES!

Third, the comment about DePodesta and Beltre was dumb.
Beltre is overpaid and under-achieved after his one steroidic season. Also, hes lazy as hell.
DePodesta may have seemed like a complete sham, BUT look at the players we have now...
Russ Martin, Kemp, Loney...yes, ALL DEPODESTA GUYS!
Also, we were furious when he got rid of LoDuca, and now look at him.
We as fans need to think more critically instead of jumping to conclusions.
But Yes, another frustrating season.
TRADE FOR A BAT!

What does everyone think of this?

Burnett, Eckstein, and Adam Lind

for Matt Kemp and Andy Laroche/Chin-Lung Hu.

Maybe Burnett waves no trade clause cause he likes LA. You guys get compensation picks and a possibly good starter in Lind. We get Kemp and DH LaRoche as backup for ROlen when he leaves or gets injured. Hu does play shortstop but his stock is way down this year.

ok im gonna do the whole list thing that ucLAdodgersInc does:

First off: if i were the Pirate's GM why the hell would i want Hu, dewitt or laroche and get rid of Bay? My FIRST request would be Kemp.

Second: we NEED another shortstop. Nomar is WAAAAY overrated. Of course im a Nomar fan but im a Dodger fan first. We need him to platoon with another decent shortstop (hence Ekstein or even Wilson u fool)

Third: DePodesta at this point in the careers of Martin, Kemp and Loney, would have traded them all for some magic beans. Im not saying Neds great. Ya know he did bring Furcal (who had his best year in '06) Nomar, (ur love toy apparently), Saito (an allstar), and Kuroda (a one-hitter the other day)

and YES i would prefer to have Beltre back and i bet 90% of ALL Dodger fans want him too. Hes been hitting 25 hrs and hitting .270 with nearly 100 RBIs which would LEAD the Dodgers (without steroids because i know u were misinformed)! Plus he might even duplicate his 04 SHOULDVE been MVP season if he came back...some players just excell when theyre back on hallowed ground...like Chan Ho Park?

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