Rockies Eyeing Byrd, Duchscherer

Arroyo is a terrible idea for Coors. Too many homers.

Well, Duchsherer was gonna come off cloud 9 eventually, and yesturday he did, but he is still up there is ERA and may still lead, not sure. Don't know why the Rocks would inquire about him if they are about to sell, Prospect wise I think it'd probably take Stewart and Renyolds. Which isn't bad. But another idea I had was Duchsherer and a prospect like Vin Mazzaro for Holliday, the prospect could be a little better or maybe two lower level guys, but I'd put Gonzalez, Cahill, Anderson, H-Rod, and maybe even Simmons off limits. Good deal for both sides. But then the A's ace is Dana Eveland!!! Wow! that would be scary.

If the Rockies were interested in Duchscherer, there is now way they would give up Holliday.

Possible 3-way trade could be:

Rockies get: Duchsherer

Rays get: Fuentes

A's get: David Price and/or Reid Brignac

of course there would be other players and prospects thrown in.

jolstad- If the Rays were to give up David Price for Fuentes, I'm thinking that the A's will have to sweeten the pot. Since Fuentes is a rental and the Rox are getting an SP signed through '09, so the Rox could easily put in another prospect which would go to the Rays.

The A's are looking for prospects. Trading the Duke for Ian Stewart and Dexter Fowler makes since. Especially since Eric Chavez is talking about becoming a first baseman.

And Eric Chavez is not going to be a first baseman for the A's. His value is being a gold glove third baseman with pop. The A's have several options at first base over the next couple years, and are not going to continue paying Chavez millions to block those prospects.

A's get Hector Gomez, Reynolds, and Chris Nelson

Rockies get Duchscherer

Seems like a good deal for both teams. Reynolds is a good prospect pitcher with good stuff when healthy, Nelson would be the SS of the future for the A's and Gomez could be the Future third baseman of the A's. Gomez is awhile away but he looks to be a good prospect. And the Rockies really wont miss those prospects.

The Rockies got Tulo and Stewart or Atkins at SS and Third. I guess if they wanted to they could keep Nelson and play him at second but Eric Young Jr. looks to be a solid second baseman for them in the future. I think that would be a very good trade for both teams.

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Are you Jason Bay's secret lover or something? You seem to be oppsesed with the A's getting him. Don't get me wrong he's a good player, but for what NH is asking for I'd kill Beane if he made that deal. And I doubt he will because he said the A's ALREADY are in a all-in re-building process. So I don't see the A's trading ANY of the prospects we just acquired. Including Cardenas, who is arguably considered the best 2B prospect in the game.

First off, you do not trade a high end prospect you just received in a trade within a couple of weeks. So basically you can take Adrian Cardenas out of any trades.

If Billy Beane can get Ian Stewart from the Rockies for Justin Duchscherer, as an A's fan I would take it in a second.

For some reason, I do not see the Rockies moving Stewart.

Alan Embree is not a "non-entity". The A's might be able to move Embree to the Dodgers for LaRoche. Several teams are looking at Embree right now. Almost every playoff contention team needs left handed bullpen help.

If you are going to throw something extra in the Duchsherer-Stewart deal, Emil Brown would make better sense. Even though Brown has been horrible pinch hitting. Emil Brown also struggles when he does not play everyday.

A's get: Ian Stewart plus 3 other prospects

Rockies get: Justin Duchsherer, Emil Brown, PTBNL

I think Stewart is pretty much off limits right now. Helton's future with the team in in doubts right now, and the plan is to move Atkins to 1st and give 3rd to Stewart. I doubt the Rockies will take the chance With Helton's diminishing play and health issues.

Fowler is also a long shot to be traded. I really doubt the club would trade him when they were forced to trade Walker in order to sign Fowler. Besides, I'm sure they don't want to mess with him 2 weeks before the Olympics.

If something can be worked out with Reynolds + a bunch of prospects, I would be all for that.

I think people are underestimating how cheap Duke is. He will command more than the Brewers paid for the Sabathia rental. Granted, Sabathia has a better track record of staying healthy and pitching well, but Duke can be a much better pitcher over the next three years than Sabathia at a fraction of the cost.

" It could be argued that he is the lowest paid two time All Star out there. He would be lucky to make Zito's one year salary over the next three."

Duchscherer is not the lowest paid 2 time all-star. I can think of another off the top of my head: Dan Uggla (2006, 2008) makes 417k a year, Duke makes 1.2 mill. I'm sure there are quite a few more making less. And again, Duke is free after 2009 and will make a pretty penny next year in arbitration from someone (which is why Beane would consider moving him).

"Duchscherer is not the lowest paid 2 time all-star. I can think of another off the top of my head: Dan Uggla (2006, 2008) makes 417k a year, Duke makes 1.2 mill. I'm sure there are quite a few more making less."

Uggla is making what he is suppose to make. He has not hit arbitration yet, and will not be a free agent until 2012. Duke will be a free agent after next season. Maybe I should have said "underpaid", but since I said it is arguable, you bring a legit argument to the table. Any one else you want to add to the argument, or was my initial point correct that it could be argued he is lowest paid two time all star out there?

Your numbers are too high. If Duke asks for 6-7 million in arbitration, he will end up making 3.5, because that is what the A's would counter with, and that is assuming he remains somewhat dominant. I think 4 million is more than fair for him next season. If he has another great year, 12 million also seems very high. Players don't increase their salaries that dramatically unless they have a track record, and this is Duke's first year starting, and he has been on the DL already.

I don't see beane wanting anymore pitching prospects. So take reynolds and hynick off. If he got jimenez or morales he would listen on them though. I see beane trigger fowler and gomez. If beane were to sweaten his deal and add simmons or barton or buck he would be able to probably net stewart, fowler, and nelson.