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Yankees Eyeing Bannister?
Should the Jarrod Washburn deal fall apart, the Yankees are exploring an alternative in Brian Bannister for Melky Cabrera. Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star writes,
"Nothing appears imminent, but the framework for a deal seems to exist because New York has already shown a willingness to part with [Melky] Cabrera. Add this: The Royals nearly obtained Cabrera in a trade-deadline swap two years ago for veteran outfielder Reggie Sanders before Sanders suffered an injury."
In this scenario, David Dejesus moves to left to make room for Cabrera in center. And Mark Teahen would get back to his natural position at first base. Cabrera is making $461,200, only $40,200 more than Bannister, and both are set to reach arbitration after this season.
The Yanks prefer Washburn but are in negotiations after the Mariners rejected an offer of Cabrera and Kei Igawa for the lefty veteran. Seattle might want Brett Gardner as well as for the Yankees to take on all of Washburn's $14MM contract through next year.
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The Wankees!!!!!! If the M's don't see completely through this they deserve to be fleeced. The Yankees leak something to the media in the hopes that the M's will panic and cave in.
I say go with Bannister for Cabrera if you want. i as much as anyone want to get rid of Washburn, i just cant stand the guy, but to insinuate its strictly a salary dump and the wankees are doing the M's a favor by just taking salary is ridiculous.
Posted by: Capper | July 27, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Did anyone catch this little tidbit from the above referenced article?
"The Yankees, like several teams, previously contacted the Royals regarding pitcher Zack Greinke. One major-league source said New York had offered Cabrera and second baseman Robinson Cano in exchange for Greinke and a position player thought to be outfielder Mark Teahen."
Gotta admit that's a pretty interesting trade. Cano/Cabrera for Grienke/Teahen really probably would've been a fleecing of the Royals by New York though. If this trade went down the Royals would've been taken back 10 steps. I understand that a core of Eric Hosmer, Mike Moustakas, Alex Gordon, Billy Butler, David DeJesus and Robinson Cano could be extremely special, but outside of Grienke and Daniel Cortes, and Melville if he signs, this team is seriously lacking in top of the rotation pitching.
Posted by: scribbletone | July 27, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Now thats a serious rip-off for the Royals. Brian Bannister is worth much more than Melky Cabrera. Even though both are having off years, Bannister provides more value. Maybe if the Yankees added a pitching prospect than I suppose it could work. However, the Royals need pitching more than offense.For example, the Royals don't have a starter that has an ERA under 4.05. While the Royals have Mark Teahen, Billy Butler, David DeJesus, Jose Guillen, and Alex Gordon. If the Royals want to trade Bannister, now is not the best time to do it.
Posted by: Nick_Swisher_For_MVP | July 27, 2008 at 01:05 PM
This whole thing sounds like a crock! I'm no yankees fan but washburn for melky would never happen. The mariners are 38-65 and washy is dangerously close to a 5.00 era. What the hell do these mariners fans think they are going to get?!!! You should be dumping salary you should just give him to the yankees for an A-ball player and have the yankees pay washburn's crap contract. Now melky for bannister is more realistic but really in the here and now doesn't help the yankees. That sounds more like a non contender trade. The mariners should be happy at the prospect of getting rid of washburn. Next someone is going to call about bautista and mariners fans will start asking for guys like wieters and how about phil hughes that sounds fair! Why does every team think their players are worth other people's top prospects? Mariners you suck! Come back to reality you are not in a position to make demands.
Posted by: joemorgan=#1 | July 27, 2008 at 01:09 PM
Could Melky Cabrera really land Bannister? Not that he is great, but he is a reasonable pitcher. The royals really don't have a mediocre hitting 24 year old CF in their system? I thought every organization had a Cabrera.
The royals have a bunch of hitters with more potential than Cabrera. They, however, have very few remotely proven pitchers. Why deal from an organizational weakness in order to (very) slightly improve what is (if anything is for the royals) a strength. Doesn't make sense. I think Capper is right. Clearly a planted story by the Yanks trying to bring down the price on Washburn.
Posted by: Mr_Punch | July 27, 2008 at 01:11 PM
Washburn is already on the clearance rack. There is no reason for the yanks to give up anything of value for Washburn.
Posted by: nyyfan | July 27, 2008 at 01:22 PM
I am not really familiar with Bannister....but by the numbers, I don't get this at all. He's a 27 year old pitcher who is 7-9 with a 5.40 ERA and a 1.41 WHIP.
This year vs BOS - 11.81 era
NYY - 7.56
TB - 6.97
None of these numbers are making me think that he's a big enough upgrade over Ponson, Hughes, Kennedy, Horne, Aceves, etc to deal Melky.
Anyone who is familiar with this kid have insight on what makes him special?
Posted by: jjyankeesfan2 | July 27, 2008 at 01:30 PM
Mr punch - you guys might be right, but how does that make the Yankees stupid?? lol
I still think Melky will be a solid CF'er for someone if not NY.. not for nothing he's a fast, young, switch hitting kid that has a plus arm. I mean the kid is only 24... He has shown a bit of power earlier this year, but just hasn't hit in the last month and a half... I think Melky could be definatly a solid ball player.
Posted by: casper | July 27, 2008 at 01:34 PM
if melky goes in any of these deals who play CF for the yankees? I can't imagine putting Damon out there again
Posted by: Serjicalstrike | July 27, 2008 at 01:38 PM
Could be Gardner, Jackson, or Christian... most likely Gardner.
Posted by: casper | July 27, 2008 at 01:47 PM
yea thats what i thought to but hes already shown that he can't hit at the mlb level
Posted by: Serjicalstrike | July 27, 2008 at 01:51 PM
Gardner has started to hit... In another post they were showing his slow start stats in each level.. it takes time to acclimate to major league pitching.. not everyone is going to be Jacoby Ellsbury with a bat when he comes up... but in hindsight, look at Jacoby's numbers this year.
Before he got sent back down he was starting to hit a bit.. and he can absolutly fly!
Posted by: casper | July 27, 2008 at 02:09 PM
"yea thats what i thought to but hes already shown that he can't hit at the mlb level"
If you mean Gardner, he has 59 total AB's in the majors. Not sure if we know for sure yet that he can't hit. Didn't do well in his first stint, but he did have some very good AB's.
That being said, I don't think I want his on-the-job training to start in the midst of a playoff run.
Posted by: jjyankeesfan2 | July 27, 2008 at 02:13 PM
Bannister is a soft tossing location pitcher. I did see him pitch last Sept. at the Metrodome and he had the Twins hitters totally off balance. He gets guys out in front and gets a lot of groundballs when he's going good. I'm not sure Cabrera is enough for him, or why KC would deal him. He's a 4-5 on a contender. Reminds me quite a bit of former Royal and Brave Charlie Leibrandt.
Posted by: coryjwilson | July 27, 2008 at 02:27 PM
Gardner can't be much worse then Melky... if you take out the first two months of the season... Melk is hitting about the same...
Also -- 2nd option Christian was hitting pretty decently and can move himself... Gardner or Christian can fill in that slot.. and im sure we wouldn't lose much production if any at all....
Posted by: casper | July 27, 2008 at 02:29 PM
The Yankees would be better off with Paul Byrd with the run support they provide he would win as many as Washburn and the Indians would probably pay the rest of the contract like they did for the Dodgers with Blake to get a lower level prospect back . And don't forget even though Byrd has had his problems they Indians haven't given him very much run support and he did start and win 2 playoff games last year.
Posted by: baseballnuts | July 27, 2008 at 02:36 PM
cory - Thanx for the info. That is what he seemed to be from his stats...which is why I have no clue why this makes sense for the Yankees. Kennedy is the same pitcher, already here and four years younger. Even went to the same college. Makes no sense. Also, didn't I hear that Bannister was about to be sent down for sucking thus far??
As for "Melky not being enough"....Melky is TOO MUCH. Again, he is only 23...a switch hitter...already led the league in outfield assists...has power potetial...will even steal you 15-20 bases. Bannister is a 27 year old soft-tosser with a 7-9 5.40era. Sounds like a BS rumor to mee.
Posted by: jjyankeesfan2 | July 27, 2008 at 02:37 PM
While I'm not a Melky fan, is Bannister really an upgrade over Rasner? No, although "baseballguru" might tell us that Bannister is a poor man's Mike Mussina or John Maine.
Posted by: luissojo | July 27, 2008 at 02:58 PM
luissojo - "Guru" was trying to tell me earlier in the week that "Jojhima was killing Posada stat wise this year". I actually laughed outloud. He is either the dumbest person alive...or he just wants attention, whether it's negative or otherwise.
Posted by: jjyankeesfan2 | July 27, 2008 at 03:13 PM
Yeah Guru is somethin. Next thing you now he tells us the Mariners are goin to win the World Series. And that Beltres stats kill Arods. Suprised he hasnt posted anything yet. I wont trade Cabrera for alot of guys especially Bannister.
Posted by: yankfan1 | July 27, 2008 at 03:29 PM
The Mariners are out of their minds if they think a team, even the Yankees, are going to eat Washburn's entire contract AND give them a prospect of note. You get one or the other, Mariners. Not both.
Posted by: NY_Cardinal | July 27, 2008 at 06:35 PM
Mark Teahen's natural position is 3B. That is what he played until he moved to the OF.
Posted by: Ryan D | July 27, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Not that Bannister is a superstar, but Yankee fans tend to overrate their players a bit. There's a reason Melky Cabrera is still a Yankee after being brought up in nearly every trade for the past 2 seasons.
I'm not sure what the Royals incentive would be to deal Bannister. It would have to be more than Cabrera though.
Posted by: coryjwilson | July 28, 2008 at 03:13 PM