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A spot on the US Olympic team has thrown some extra attention on 20-year old San Diego State hurler Stephen Strasburg, likely to be the top pick in next year's draft. As Thomas Boswell wrote today in the Washington Post, Strasburg's fastball has been clocked at 101 mph and it's not even his best pitch (that would be his curveball).
Boswell excited because his hometown Nats are so terrible, they just might be getting the No. 1 draft pick that would let them snag the 220 lb, 6'4" Strasburg. But Buster Olney rains on his parade:
Strasburg's advisor is Scott Boras, and if the Nationals thought the asking price of Aaron Crow was high, well, they ain't seen nothing yet.
Nonetheless, DC scribes are following the scouts' lead and positively drooling over the big righty. In addition to his high-90s heater and his 70s curve, Strasburg has a slider in the 80s and struck out 23 batters in one game in April.
Washington has a .354 winning percentage as of right now. The only other teams under .400 are San Diego (.375) and Seattle (.367).
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Even if the nats get the top pick, I'm betting Strasburg drops to th Ms. Especially if Bowden retains his post.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | August 23, 2008 at 05:23 PM
I've seen Strasburg twice and he never topped 97 on my own gun. A 101-mph fastball is almost a mythical beast; I've only gotten triple digits on my own gun from Matt Lindstrom, and have never gotten any starter over 98.
Strasburg's clearly the best player in the '09 draft class. I just don't get why Boswell had to exaggerate his abilities.
Posted by: Keith Law | August 23, 2008 at 05:50 PM
Boswell probably did it to give some sense of false hope to Nat's fans(if any). Strasburg is one hell of a pitcher, but if Bowden is still there, he will fall to the M's or the Friar's depending on who finishes where. Plus, Strasburg might be more inclined to sign with San Diego since he pitches for San Diego State, maybe not.
Posted by: bravesrule14 | August 23, 2008 at 06:10 PM
I watched about 3 innings of the US and Cuba game, and this guy's stuff is sick. In all seriousness, he seems to use his curveball low in the zone and it was effective almost everytime. If you were to splitscreen his curve and Roy Halladay's, it would look exactly the same, as both use that pitch to freeze hitters or get them to swing in miss as it just starts at the letters and dips to the shins over a matter of feet feet in front of the plate to the mitt. Also, none of the cuban hitters seemed as if they were able to catch up with his fastball. The triple and the homerun he gave up came from the hitters guessing right, mixed with Strasburg living the curve/slider up. This kid has got amazing stuff, and the fact that Johnson saved him for 8 days just to pitch against the Cubans in the semifinal game proves how dominant his stuff can be and how composed he is for his age.
Posted by: bravesbeast | August 23, 2008 at 06:28 PM
Is that actually Keith Law? And do the Nats get the 1st and 8th pick in the first round?
Posted by: ballerwhiteboy | August 23, 2008 at 06:47 PM
I've probably spent about 50 hours breaking down Strasburg's film, mechanics and side sessions.
To Mr. Boswell, his out pitch is actually a slider, not a curveball. It breaks down and away, much like Brad Lidge's and Francisco Liriano's.
His fastball has hit 102 at times, according to BA. I've only seen it hit 100, but it does crack triple digits when he needs it to. Even after the longest season of his career, something I really do worry about, he was still hitting 95-95 consistently in the Olympics.
Every accolade he receives is just. He's the best pitching prospect since Mark Prior, and significantly better mechanically.
Posted by: usctrojans31 | August 23, 2008 at 07:01 PM
Baller, no and no.
If they finish with the worst record, the Nationals will receive picks 1 and 10. Their compensatory pick is 9a, which in turn is 10. The Yankees receive 28a, which is 30, assuming Josh Fields signs.
Posted by: usctrojans31 | August 23, 2008 at 07:02 PM
there's a big difference between not caving to crow's demands and not paying the freight for somoene like strasburg.
crow is a guy who was the 9th pick, not the first overall, and who wasn't the first pitcher taken, but wanted a bonus like he was the first overall pick and a "can't miss." there were concerns about crow's mechanics. and his agents did nobody (crow or the nationals) any favors by making a ridiculous first offer ($9m bonus) and then not negotiating at all until the last day.
Posted by: greg | August 23, 2008 at 07:23 PM
thanks for the clarification usc. Bowden should be packing. The Nats had a very good future but like many people have said, not signing Crow sends them in a different direction.
Posted by: ballerwhiteboy | August 23, 2008 at 07:53 PM
as for the 101... after the world baseball classic werent they saying dice-k was throwing 100+ mph? he rarely gets above the low 90's in every game ive seen him pitch.
if thats the case, are they even using the same guns in international competition that they do for mlb purposes?
Posted by: elmedius | August 23, 2008 at 07:57 PM
"as for the 101"
It's usually a bs stat. Many flame throwers can do that in a quick session to a scout. How many pitchers has anyone hear of that can pitch a 100 mph fastball on their 75th pitch.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | August 23, 2008 at 08:48 PM
Congrats to Tim Dierkes. You know your baseball blog has made it big time when Keith Freakin' Law drops a comment. Maybe this happens a lot, but I hadn't seen Keith Law (or anyone else particularly famous) comment here before. I knew a lot of the big boys read the site, but hadn't seen anyone comment.
Thanks for the info Keith.
For purposes of the draft, it doesn't matter whether Strasburg tops out at 97 or 102. Both are plus plus velocity for a starter and Strasburg is the #1 talent, regardless of which figure is correct.
Posted by: mymrbig | August 23, 2008 at 09:34 PM
If Seattle gets Strasburg, I pitty hitters having to face 7 innings of Strasburg, then 1 inning of Fields and 1 inning of Morrow (if he ends up closing). Not much time to see ball, hit ball.
Posted by: mymrbig | August 23, 2008 at 09:37 PM
Do we have any way of knowing that its actually Keith Law? If so, thats an incredible achievement Tim.
Posted by: themfightnwords | August 23, 2008 at 10:14 PM
It is. Click on his name and it eventually takes you back to his personal blog.
Posted by: DraftInfo | August 23, 2008 at 10:17 PM
to usctrojans31 -
im sure that strasburg is incredible, as his numbers are off the charts, but saying he is the best pitching prospect since prior is risky. kershaw? david price? thats a pretty bold statement considering how highly touted these kids are.
Posted by: tmoney352 | August 23, 2008 at 11:21 PM
I have read in a couple places that Strasburg is the best pitching prospect since Prior. Kershaw is not really comparable since he was a high school arm. Someone knowledgeable in a chat (no idea if it was BA, BP, Keith Law, or someone else) said that he is a "once every three or four years" type of talent (they were asked if he was a once-in-a-decade type of talent). So basically, going into the 2009 draft, Strasburg is (on average) the best prospect in 3 or 4 draft classes. While this is pretty impressive, it certainly does not mean he will end up being the best player.
A guy like Strasburg should spend very little time in the minors. I would say the same about Price. These guys are good enough to succeed almost immediately and their is no reason for a major league team to waste his bullets in the minors. If his arm is going to blow out, you might as well have him log his innings in the majors instead of the minors. And if his arm is going to stay healthy, he is refined enough that he really does not need to be putzing around in A ball for more than a couple starts.
Posted by: mymrbig | August 23, 2008 at 11:32 PM
It will be interesting if the Nats pony up for Strasburg. I hope he falls to my M's but we did pass on Andrew Miller to pick Brandon Morrow because of money concerns. Felix, Bedard, Morrow, and Strasburg would brighten the future.
Posted by: scottiedawg | August 24, 2008 at 12:00 AM
I saw Strasburg in the two games he pitched at the World University Baseball Championship in July here in Czech Republic. He threw 14 innings, didnt allow a run, 2hits, 3BBs and struck out 22. His fastball sat at 96-97 and hit 98 few times according to some scouts in the park.
Posted by: viktor06 | August 24, 2008 at 03:18 AM
"A guy like Strasburg should spend very little time in the minors."
I'm actually going to disagree with you on this. One of the biggest mistakes Boras could make with Strasburg is to insist on a MLB deal for this very reason.
Strasburg's stuff is good enough to essentially be a 2 pitch pitcher right now and his changeup actually helps the college hitters speed up their bats with aluminum. Strasburg needs to work on using his changeup in fastball counts, like he was doing in the Olympics.
Posted by: usctrojans31 | August 24, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Lets see for Seattle, it could be a dream rotation in a couple years.
Seattle - Felix, Stras, Aumont, Pineda and/or Ramirez, Morrow
SD - Peavy, Young, Stras
WOW, may the best team Win.
Posted by: Ms4life | August 24, 2008 at 04:11 PM
Any talk of the Nats passing over an arm like Strasubrg is nonsensical babble. If Bowden passed on talent like this, the city would rise up as one and run him out of town. They will draft him, offer him a deal comparable to other #1's, probably more because he is a Boras client, and he should be in the majors within two years.
Despite the fact that Jimmy-boy is still the GM, if the Nats have the number one pick, they will draft Strasburg. In the long run, hopefully Bowden won't even be working for the Nationals come draft day.
Posted by: DC Nats Fan | August 25, 2008 at 08:02 AM
DC Nats Fan-
The fans can be pissed all they want, but if they can't sign Strasburg, they might as well draft somebody at the 1 and the 10 (9a) that they know for a fact they can sign. That would get them 2 top 10 picks to sign, instead of spending all your money on your 1st overall, and being unable to sign another top 10 talent.
I hope he falls to Seattle.
By 2011/2012
Felix, Aumont, Strasburg, Morrow, 5th
We need a lefty, but that would be sick!
Posted by: baseballismylyf4 | August 26, 2008 at 12:23 AM