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According to Bill Shaikin of the L.A. Times, Scott Boras has received "a number of offers" for Mark Teixeira. These are formal offers that Tex has the right to accept. The Angels haven't made an offer; we can only speculate on which clubs did submit early bids.
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Actually, I would love to see the Cubs go after Tex. We could then use Derrek Lee as trade bait for either a rightfielder, or if the Padres want, as a trade for Peavy. It would give the Cubs the lefty they want, and better production from first base.
Posted by: namesake49 | November 25, 2008 at 11:23 PM
I can only hope that my beloved Giants pursue Teixeira. Tex is hands down the best free agent of the bunch.
Im my opinion, the Giants are spending too much energy focusing on Furcal, Hudson and any other 30 year old who can play middle infield.
Posted by: Brandon W. Fisher | November 25, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Why would the Padres want Lee? Adrian Gonzalez is better, younger, and cheaper than Lee.
Posted by: yanksfan | November 25, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Padres have one of the top 10 first basemen in baseball whos yet to hit arbitration. And the cubs cant afford Tex who will get a record setting deal. Its not that chicago doesnt have the money its that by adding that huge contract it makes buying the team less appealing so theyre attempting to restrict payroll. I still think Brian Giles is the best option in RF, good defense, LH hitter who can lead off. Plus hes put up good numbers at PETCO. But hes OLD.
Posted by: chicubs25 | November 25, 2008 at 11:32 PM
I really hope Tex and CC set a precident of players going where they will be happy instead of adding acouple million to a deal that already makes them rich for hundreds of years. I hope Tex goes to Baltimore and CC ends up in Cali.
Posted by: chicubs25 | November 25, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Dodgers sign teixera, move loney to 3rd. Let manny walk.
Posted by: NedCollettiClueless | November 25, 2008 at 11:40 PM
"I really hope Tex and CC set a precident of players going where they will be happy instead of adding acouple million to a deal that already makes them rich for hundreds of years. I hope Tex goes to Baltimore and CC ends up in Cali."
If losing for the foreseeable future and never making the playoffs is something that makes Tex happy he would love playing in Baltimore.
Posted by: Gleb | November 25, 2008 at 11:43 PM
Giants NEED to sign Tex. He's a more sure thing than Manny (Manny's getting old) and it looks like Furcal may be headed to Oakland. We need the offensive help and Tex is that help. Hopefully Sabes catches on with this one.
Posted by: giantsfan92 | November 25, 2008 at 11:46 PM
I agree w/ NedCollettiClueless (even though he's a dodgers fan). Manny's gonna walk right on over to SF.
Posted by: giantsfan92 | November 25, 2008 at 11:48 PM
"Dodgers sign teixera, move loney to 3rd. Let manny walk."
Sure, I'm all for letting Manny walk; but I disagree with moving a lefty to third base.
Posted by: rthlshrtbrkr | November 25, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Tigers trade Magglio for Maicer Izturis. Then sign Tex. Move Inge to catcher and Cabrera back to 3rd. All problems solved!
Posted by: Rob M. | November 25, 2008 at 11:50 PM
"Dodgers sign teixera, move loney to 3rd. Let manny walk."
Fine. Welcome to SF Manny.
Posted by: giantsfan92 | November 25, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Well the Orioles have one of the best farm systems in baseball, adding Tex gives them a very legit lineup and makes them more appealing for one of the many SPs available. Baltimore has the money players just dont want to go there, and they do have a long way to go, but look whwt the Rays did. And if CC or Tex doesnt go to the yanks they could be worse next year without Moose and Pettitte. The Jays rotation looks weak from injuries and the lineup was a major weakness last year. So if the orioles make a splash they could find themselves fighting for third this year before all the talent reaches the majors.
Posted by: chicubs25 | November 25, 2008 at 11:56 PM
"Dodgers sign teixera, move loney to 3rd. Let manny walk."
LOL!
Posted by: k0o56 | November 25, 2008 at 11:57 PM
I though the O's owner Angelos was cheap and didn't give out big contracts?...Getting Tex would be huge if they could do it,but don't count on it...The Giants really should sign him and stop looking at the Renterias and Furcals...They need offense and Tex is a guy who's still young and in his prime.
Posted by: JT89 | November 26, 2008 at 12:04 AM
Brilliant move by either the Giants or the O's in signing Tex. They can move from being a crappy to team to being a crappy team with $20m less to spend every year. Brilliant plan!
Posted by: bjsguess | November 26, 2008 at 12:10 AM
"Dodgers sign teixera, move loney to 3rd. Let manny walk."
OMG Loney at 3rd? lol
Posted by: dchillis | November 26, 2008 at 12:22 AM
lol @ the giants signing anyone significant. Sign another barry zito.
Posted by: NedCollettiClueless | November 26, 2008 at 12:25 AM
Angels sign Tex and CC and pisses everyone off.
Why would the Cubs want Tex?
As for the Giants no Tex and no Manny. They can bring Bonds back.
Posted by: dchillis | November 26, 2008 at 12:32 AM
Someone help me understand why the Dodgers are not putting forth a major effort to sign CC!
With Lowe and Penny gone who the heck is going to be on the mound? Fernando and Oral?
Posted by: dchillis | November 26, 2008 at 12:36 AM
The Angels could have $20m less to spend every year too bjsguess! And so would anybody else! I don't know about the Giants, but the Orioles can easily afford Teixeira and he's a pretty good bet that he'll be productive for a good amount of that contract.
Posted by: epic | November 26, 2008 at 12:36 AM
Angelos still is gun shy from being bitten by that psycho Albert belle almost 20 years ago and getting basically screwed by a top dollar FA and am not sure he will be willing to dole out top dollar to any FA again, but tex clearly could help the hitting portion of the O's lineup, not sure how he will help that pitching staff however.
Would really like to see how the Cubs could get anyone to take lee's contract, much less the padres.
Posted by: johns | November 26, 2008 at 12:42 AM
epic,
the giants can afford a lot. we could be a big-market team if we were a better team. people don't know about our history too. same goes for the o's. manny or tex are definately in both team's grasp.
Posted by: giantsfan92 | November 26, 2008 at 12:50 AM
The rep of Angelos is not that he's cheap at all. His rep is that he bypasses his GM's advice to pay exorbitant contracts.
Posted by: basemonkey | November 26, 2008 at 12:53 AM
"Angelos still is gun shy from being bitten by that psycho Albert belle almost 20 years ago and getting basically screwed by a top dollar FA and am not sure he will be willing to dole out top dollar to any FA again"
Did Angelos not spend $72 million on Miguel Tejada in 2003? He may not exactly shell out cash but he'll spend from time to time.
Posted by: scribbletone | November 26, 2008 at 12:55 AM
O's have offered more money then a lot of teams on players. Such as Lee, Guerrero, Pavano and Konerko to name a few.
Teixeira is a gold glover and middle of the line up hitter. He helps the pitchers on offense and defense. Also it leaves the O's less need on offense and lets them go after a DEF SS.
But the fact he paid Tejada big bucks since then also shows that Belle's contract is not the issue. The issue now is Andy MacPhail.
Posted by: XD23 | November 26, 2008 at 12:56 AM
Also, Belle was not "almost 20 years ago" He barely signed 10 years ago. And it's not like he didn't perform before suffering a career ending injury. If anything Belle's contract made Angelos more savvy, as he was able to get a massive chunk of Belle remaining years covered by insurance. (Sorry, despite all his problems I still love Albert Belle, the man was a monster) Angelos gives out the cash, always has.
Posted by: grimace455 | November 26, 2008 at 01:21 AM
The years run together and it must have with Belle, just recall the unsportsmanlike multitude of things he was constantly doing and not the several good years that he had in toronto grimace455. The fighting, punching for not being nearly thrown at on sevral occasions, fighting with teamates etc.. he was a lost cause in that way as good a hitter as he was when he would just play the game before his hip injury believe it was that finally finished him off.
Posted by: johns | November 26, 2008 at 02:32 AM
How do you know Scott Boras is lying? His lips are moving.
Posted by: TheSchmaranz | November 26, 2008 at 03:01 AM
"The years run together and it must have with Belle, just recall the unsportsmanlike multitude of things he was constantly doing and not the several good years that he had in toronto grimace455. The fighting, punching for not being nearly thrown at on sevral occasions, fighting with teamates etc.. he was a lost cause in that way as good a hitter as he was when he would just play the game before his hip injury believe it was that finally finished him off."
I seriously have no clue what you are getting at. It's fairly obvious that you have no clue about Albert Belle, so I'll let this link speak for itself
http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/belleal01.shtml
Posted by: grimace455 | November 26, 2008 at 03:03 AM
I was mistaken on Belle and Bell, as in George Bell with the serious attitude problem grimace455. My mistake and yep.. george was the injured one with the hip, george just got pooer towards the end of his career, should have looked up career stats on my end instead of going from memory like I did. George played in the 80's and has his good seasons then and was why i posted about being 20 years ago the FA signing, it was a bad post on my part. My apologies.
Posted by: johns | November 26, 2008 at 03:39 AM
Red Sox are going to sign Tex. Youk moves to third. We then package Lowell (eating his salary, natch), Ellsbury and Bucholz and ship them to Seattle for Ichiro. 'Tek gets a 2-year deal and we give Gidget (Lowe) a 4-year. Rocco gets the 4th outfielder slot.
Posted by: El Jefe | November 26, 2008 at 05:04 AM
The only option for the Dodgers would be to move Loney to LF if they signed Tex...
Loney/Kemp/Ethier in the OF
I could live with that for the next decade!
Posted by: MikeClarke | November 26, 2008 at 05:15 AM
I've read somewhere that McOurt (LAD) is facing some financial constraints because of the stock market problems. Apparently he's highly leveraged in buying the Dodgers and it might well be that the Dodgers are facing a serious financial constraint in terms of signing new FAs. The presence of several very bad 2009 contracts (Pierre and Jones) is a compounding issue.
Posted by: Robin | November 26, 2008 at 06:18 AM
I hope the yankees sign Tex and then trade for Peavy. I would like CC but if the angels want him at 140 then go right ahead.
Posted by: yanks12025 | November 26, 2008 at 06:24 AM
Rob, that doesn't solve the third base problem. The reason cabrera got moved to first is because he couldn't hold down the fort at third. We'd have to move Guillen to 3rd or another team(no way he makes it as a LF) because Cabrera would be the DH.
Otherwise, I agree with your statement. But what would make Tex want to sign with Detroit?
Posted by: Calriver | November 26, 2008 at 06:25 AM
Red Sox are going to sign Tex. Youk moves to third. We then package Lowell (eating his salary, natch), Ellsbury and Bucholz and ship them to Seattle for Ichiro. 'Tek gets a 2-year deal and we give Gidget (Lowe) a 4-year. Rocco gets the 4th outfielder slot.
ElJefe,
that's a nice little fantasy team you assembled there but do you really think the Red Sox are going to be adding $60+million per year in payroll? Also don't forget about arb raises soon for Youklis and eventually Pedroia. I don't think that scenario happens.
Posted by: philsWSchamps | November 26, 2008 at 06:31 AM
"Brilliant move by either the Giants or the O's in signing Tex. They can move from being a crappy to team to being a crappy team with $20m less to spend every year. Brilliant plan!"
And you have a problem with these teams spending $20M on a top notch player because?? I'm just trying to understand if it because you think that teams that haven't been good in recent past, despite what foundation they may have to get better, aren't allowed to take drastic steps to improve their situations... or is it that it's only acceptable for the more elite athletes to go to an instant contender? If Team A or Team B have a number of holes they need to fill in order to put forth a truly competitive team, why is it such a bad move to pay money to try to acquire a fine, younger athlete who can fill one of those holes, not for a year or two...but several seasons to come?
Posted by: Daphne | November 26, 2008 at 06:40 AM
Red Sox are going to sign Tex. Youk moves to third. We then package Lowell (eating his salary, natch), Ellsbury and Bucholz and ship them to Seattle for Ichiro. 'Tek gets a 2-year deal and we give Gidget (Lowe) a 4-year. Rocco gets the 4th outfielder slot.
Posted by: El Jefe | November 26, 2008 at 05:04 AM
This being a rumor site, trade ideas are good fun and all but............I don't think this trade would even be allowed in Fantasy land because its so ridiculous.
Back to reality, I am hesitant to believe that Boras has received offers on Teixeira just yet. I think most teams know the Angels are waiting to present their offer and most teams know that Boras will then shop that offer around.
My guess is Boras is just trying trying to get the Angels to finally make an offer.
I realize Teixeira is the best Offensive guy out there this year; but for that exact reason I'd think that if he has gotten his first offer from a team other then the Angels, it would be a similiar situation to what the Yankees did with Sabathia. Where the team offers far more money then anyone else would even consider approaching.....in which case it would be public knowledge by now.
Otherwise, I think every GM knows the Angels are going to make an offer and that Boras then intends on shopping that offer around.
The Angels, are doing their best to delay in hopes of getting someone else to offer first, but I doubt they win that game of chicken.
Posted by: KangarooBoxer26 | November 26, 2008 at 07:12 AM
i agree KangarooBoxer26,
Boras is probably pissed that the market is taking this long to develop and he's got other clients further down the line that are concerned that they will be negatively affected by it. Its in his best interest to break this stalemate. If he had offers, he'd let it slip how high they were and for how long. He's full of crap and everyone knows it.
Posted by: philsWSchamps | November 26, 2008 at 07:35 AM
Wow what a trade Boston would really make out!!
hahahahaha
Posted by: Cyyoung | November 26, 2008 at 07:40 AM
El Jefe,
You could go other way too...Julio Lugo for Suzuki, and Seattle pays part of his contract.
That works too.
Posted by: Cyyoung | November 26, 2008 at 07:45 AM
El Jefe, please stop. you're making the rest of us Sox fans look bad. Just yesterday I tried defending Sox fan for their trade offers, but this isn't helping!
Posted by: Papelboner | November 26, 2008 at 07:54 AM
Typical Voras bs. He does this every year to try and get the ball rolling. You know he wants the Yanks and red Sox to make offers so he can go public with huge numbers and, hopefully for him, start a bidding war. His act is getting old, I really hate this guy.
Posted by: njbraves | November 26, 2008 at 08:13 AM
njbraves, you can't balem Boras for doing his job, there is a reason players pick him as his agent, and that is because they want the best deal. If I was Boras I would do the same thing and if I was a player I woudl pick him too.
Posted by: DominicanYanks | November 26, 2008 at 08:30 AM
"We then package Lowell (eating his salary, natch), Ellsbury and Bucholz and ship them to Seattle for Ichiro."
I give up.
Posted by: CubbyFan23 | November 26, 2008 at 08:40 AM
On Teixeira/Red Sox thoughts....
If Teixeira signs a long term deal with Boston, this would block Lars Anderson the Sox top prospect and cause the Red Sox to try and find a market for Mike Lowell.
Basically, Teixeira would be a welcome addition to any club, but Mike Lowell isn't exactly considered a "hole" in a lineup to most starting pitchers and his glove is still among the best. Youkilis mashed with the best of them last year and his glove is also among the best. Now toss in the Sox block their top prospect (who should be ready when Lowells contract is up allowing Youk to slide over then) and I am not sure how much motivation the Red Sox have to break the bank on Teixeira being he isn't as much a "need" for them as he is for other teams.
Also.......call me crazy but if Teixeira winds up in Boston, I think Varitek (a Boras client as well) will magically be receiving a bigger/longer term deal from the Sox then most of us expected.
Posted by: KangarooBoxer26 | November 26, 2008 at 08:43 AM
Boras will get Baltimore to bid against themselves and sign him to a 7/130m deal. The O's will proceed to finish 30 out instead of 28.5 next year. Tex has no interest in winning.
Posted by: misterpet | November 26, 2008 at 08:45 AM
The headline should read: "Boras still waiting on Yanks/Red Sox/Angels offers for Teixera". While I'm sure Boras has received offers for Tex, if there was 1 decent offer in the bunch, the world would know about it.
Posted by: Looney4Baseball | November 26, 2008 at 08:47 AM
"That market appears to be developing slowly but surely. The Boston Red Sox are believed to have made an offer for Teixeira, and the Baltimore Orioles and Washington Nationals have indicated they have serious interest."
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2008/11/angels-continue.html
Posted by: Kramerica Industries | November 26, 2008 at 08:53 AM
Dominican Yanks, I understand ur point, but I have it backfire on him before. Several years ago he turned down a big offer for Millwood, saying it was insulting, then had to accept a one year deal because he was full of it the whole time. I think we have gotten to the point, with most teams, where everyone is tired of the game playing. He turns down everything off the bat, just to squeeze a few extra dollars out of a team. He has no regard for a players happiness.
Posted by: njbraves | November 26, 2008 at 09:04 AM
I wonder if one of those offers is the 10-year 225 million dollar deal from the Red Sox that I heard rumours of the other day
Posted by: xethicx | November 26, 2008 at 10:06 AM
xethicx, if the Red Sox made that offer it would have been accepted already,IMO.
Posted by: Kramerica Industries | November 26, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Kramerica Industries Posted:
"That market appears to be developing slowly but surely. The Boston Red Sox are believed to have made an offer for Teixeira, and the Baltimore Orioles and Washington Nationals have indicated they have serious interest."
"http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2008/11/angels-continue.html"
That article is from Nov 19 and is speculation. You would think that if the Sox had made an offer, it would have leaked out by a week later.
Posted by: Looney4Baseball | November 26, 2008 at 10:35 AM
njbraves, that is also true, check A-Rod, got a huge deal and after 3 season got tired of just the money and not winning. That is why I think Tex won't go to a team like the Nationals or the O's.
Posted by: DominicanYanks | November 26, 2008 at 01:53 PM
Why the hell are there 55 comments on a post that essentially says nothing? Oops, make that 56 now. Damn.
BTW- not saying the O's sign Tex, but I'm willing to bet one of the offers is from Angelos (probably the Nats too).
Posted by: milehigh78 | November 26, 2008 at 03:46 PM
Just for the record, the problem with the Orioles getting Free Agents is not Angelos being cheap. The vicious irony of losing ballclubs is that they get shunned by Free Agents, and/or, criticized for overpaying in years or money for the guys they do convince.
The Oriole's have been the highest bidder for Konerko, Vladimir, Tejada and a host of so-so pitchers who have reached FA. Only Tejada has said yes. Ever wonder why all similarly fringy players on their way in or out of baseball tend to find the same clubs? Well, this vicious cycle is why.
Posted by: basemonkey | November 26, 2008 at 04:23 PM
"If Teixeira signs a long term deal with Boston, this would block Lars Anderson the Sox top prospect and cause the Red Sox to try and find a market for Mike Lowell."
It blocks Anderson at 1B, for sure, but DH is another story. Anderson is still another year or two away, and Ortiz' contract expires after the 2010 season (the Sox hold a club option for 2011). With Ortiz already seemingly on the decline, I'm not so sure signing Teixeira would block Anderson from getting at-bats. So far, we haven't heard much about his defense, it's his offense people are marveling over. The DH position could be perfect for him.
As for Lowell, it's certainly going to be hard creating a market for him, and my guess is there won't be one until he's played some games in Spring Training. But there are teams out there in need of a quality third baseman, and if Lowell proves healthy, he could be just what those teams are looking for. Theo's going to have to get creative with Lowell.
Posted by: daniel b. | November 26, 2008 at 04:27 PM
God, it would be nice to be able to maybe trade Loney (as much as it would hurt to lose him) for a third baseman (maybe Beltre) or something and sign Teixeira. That would never happen, though. Then again, losing Loney might suck too much.
Posted by: Ivdown | November 26, 2008 at 05:20 PM
I agree that the Padres are not the right fit for Derrek Lee...thats why I said 'if the Padres want'. But personally, I dont think DLee is anything more than an excellent defensive #2 hitter in most lineups. The Cubs are going to have to get a new 1st baseman soon if they want to compete longterm. Trading DLee and Fukudome would give us the money we would need to sign Tex. And I dont care who we get for those 2. A middle of the order lineup with Tex, ARam, and Soto would be very powerful, especially with Soriano and Theriot in the 1 and 2 spots. If we can get rid of Jason Marquis at half of his current contract (along with DLee and Fukudome), we would then be set for a good buy for a new owner. We could then settle for a defensive minded RF since our lineup would look like this:
Soriano
Theriot
Tex
Aram
Soto
Derosa
New RF
Pie/Johnson
That leaves a lot of confidence in Soto to continue producing, which I believe he will for at least the next 4 or 5 years.
And no...there's no way I would spend money on B Giles. Give me Dejesus and I would be happy.
Posted by: namesake49 | November 27, 2008 at 12:04 AM