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Derek Lowe Rumors: Saturday
5:19pm: We've got a bit of a status update in Ken Rosenthal's latest.
Fresh off closing the deal on Kenshin Kawakami, it seems as though the Atlanta Braves are the latest front runners in the Derek Lowe sweepstakes. Citing a source, Rosenthal says the Braves are "all over" Lowe. As for the team that was perhaps overtaken in this case, Rosenthal writes, "Mets officials seemed pessimistic."
Any pending offer from Atlanta is not likely to include a fourth year, according to Rosenthal. However, an offer for three years in the $40-42MM range with a club or vesting option is "one possibility."
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Give us that first round pick Atlanta.
Posted by: NedCollettiClueless | January 10, 2009 at 05:30 PM
gator done frank
Posted by: braves1087 | January 10, 2009 at 05:32 PM
the first round pick is protected nedcolletticlueless
Posted by: ConverseChris | January 10, 2009 at 05:34 PM
NO NED. Our pick is protected.
Posted by: Braddd | January 10, 2009 at 05:34 PM
Braves should get him, not only do they improve their staff but then it forces the mets to sign perez for 40m
Posted by: Zack | January 10, 2009 at 05:34 PM
I think the Mets would sign Wolf before Perez.
Mets are acting like a bunch of wusses here - open up the checkbook already.
Posted by: Chris W. | January 10, 2009 at 05:36 PM
I would've liked the Braves signing Perez and Lowe over Kawakami and Lowe.
Posted by: Braddd | January 10, 2009 at 05:40 PM
If the Braves can get him for 3 years and $42 million, they need to do that this instant.
I posted a couple days ago his ERA's and IP totals for the last 4 years. He has been as good as Burnett, more reliable than Burnett, and he is cheaper.
Get him.
Posted by: CottonNash | January 10, 2009 at 05:40 PM
A smart Tactical move by the Braves...This will force the Mets to pick up left overs in the starting rotation and a 3/13-14 is GREAT deal in terms and money...Now go Get Dunn 2/20 and call a off season!!
Posted by: BravoFan3736 | January 10, 2009 at 05:41 PM
the first round pick is protected nedcolletticlueless
Posted by: ConverseChris
NO NED. Our pick is protected.
Posted by: Braddd |
NOOOOOO!!!!
Omar where are you!?
Posted by: NedCollettiClueless | January 10, 2009 at 05:43 PM
I can't wait until Hudson gets back. The Braves will have an outstanding rotation.
Posted by: TheAngelicDoctor | January 10, 2009 at 05:43 PM
Especially if they sign Lowe.
Posted by: TheAngelicDoctor | January 10, 2009 at 05:44 PM
Why wouldn't the Braves offer a 4th yr and get this deal done??? I dont think Lowe will accept a 3 yr+4th yr vesting option.
Posted by: ChiefTomahawk | January 10, 2009 at 05:45 PM
Only thing I worried about is not have a Lefting outside Semi-retired Glavine which who knows if he can pitch effectively again. I would have been in favor in going for Pettite as a second option due that he is lefty and solid #2/#3. Otherwise it could be tough with a Left handed dominated Phillies line up with all right handed SP going to the mound...Something that FW is problem considering and keeping glavine around till healthy...
Posted by: BravoFan3736 | January 10, 2009 at 05:46 PM
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http://baseballcommentary.blogspot.com/
Posted by: GoSoX | January 10, 2009 at 05:46 PM
Braddd I am not a fan of Perez. He will prob get 10 MM a year. I am not sure what the deal is for Kawakami but my guess is 5-7mm. Hopefully not too much more.
Posted by: ChiefTomahawk | January 10, 2009 at 05:47 PM
NedCollettiClueless, the Dodgers would get a higher pick from the Braves than the Mets since Lowe is ranked below Krod...
Posted by: cheba63 | January 10, 2009 at 05:47 PM
Hah, after the Smoltz signing Braves fans were calling for a 75 win season. You sign Lowe, maybe add a bat through FA like Dunn or Abreu. Would love to see you guys get Manny. You guys are right in the thick of things if you sign Lowe.
Lowe
Vazquez
Kenshin Kawakami ?
Jurrjens
Campillo/Hanson
---looking good.
I remember you had 45 mill to spend so you could probably afford Dunn, I think you guys should get him. Be badass.
Posted by: YankFan408 | January 10, 2009 at 05:50 PM
Why wouldn't the Braves offer a 4th yr and get this deal done??? I dont think Lowe will accept a 3 yr+4th yr vesting option.
Because they dont want to offer a real big contract to a guy that will be 40 at the end of thier contract. 3 years and 4 years is a big difference. Besides who else is ganna give lowe a 4 year deal, the mets?? i think not. Wren needs to make sure he doesnt bid against himself here. Hopefully 3 years 42 mill with a club option or something can get it done.
Posted by: chipperowns10 | January 10, 2009 at 05:54 PM
Lowe would be great for the Braves. It looks like that is where he is going. As for the Mets, they should look into Ben Sheets more than they have. Oliver Perez is a huge drop off from Lowe and Sheets.
Posted by: viteminj | January 10, 2009 at 05:59 PM
chipperowns10 are you honestly confident that this deal will get it done???
Posted by: ChiefTomahawk | January 10, 2009 at 06:01 PM
forget it, now the mets will just get ollie under their terms, just as they tried to with Lowe. Lowe will eventually break down at his age, I lost respect for him wanting more money in this economy. He can go waste his time losing in Atlanta.
Posted by: enut | January 10, 2009 at 06:03 PM
A 4th year for Lowe is something I would tend to back away from, for several reasons, including Lowe's age and Braves prospects/FA's.
3/40-42 though is something I would do.
Posted by: CottonNash | January 10, 2009 at 06:05 PM
I agree that Wren should offer the 4th year just to close it out. Oh by the way, it's nice to see a Yankee fan who's not posting trash. thanks Yankfan408.
Posted by: OklahomaBrave | January 10, 2009 at 06:05 PM
Omar, don't be a cheap f--k and let Lowe go to ATL. You can certainly offer more than 3/42....
Posted by: Hyro | January 10, 2009 at 06:07 PM
lol yay u guys are gonna have another classsy guy wit chipper, u kno lowe who cheated on his wife wit some anchor babe
Posted by: krazymetsfan24 | January 10, 2009 at 06:10 PM
That's alot of money for an aging, mediocre pitcher that had problems in a weak NL West
Posted by: Peavo | January 10, 2009 at 06:14 PM
When has Lowe ever had problems pitching in the NL West?
Posted by: iamnobody | January 10, 2009 at 06:21 PM
Its so Funny seeing BABY Mets fans crying about Lowe .. They wanted him so bad . .and now there cracking on his age..
Good Signing Braves
Mets you'll always be in the Yankees Shadow
GO YANKS !!
Posted by: Mike | January 10, 2009 at 06:21 PM
you guys are crazy if u think lowe is signin wit the braves. mets need a no2 pitcher badly. braves are very far from competin. this is desperation for lettin smoltz go. omar rarely gets outbid when he sets his sights on a player.
Posted by: williebeamen | January 10, 2009 at 06:23 PM
chipperowns10 are you honestly confident that this deal will get it done???
No, i am not completley confident that this deal will get done. However i dont think we should jus throw 4 years 60 million at him. To be completly honest i dont think we will win the division next year even with lowe so missing out on him would not be the end of the world. A rotation in 2010 of hudson,vazquez,jair,hanson, kawakmi would not be to bad at all. Sure it would be nice to have lowe, that we would could trade vazquez.
Posted by: chipperowns10 | January 10, 2009 at 06:26 PM
If the Mets just let Lowe stroll right over to the Braves without even so much as a single counter offer their offseason won't be nearly as good as it's been up to this point. I can't really blame the Braves though for going all out on him though after their Plan A, Plan B and Plan C have all failed already.
Posted by: sampsonite168 | January 10, 2009 at 06:26 PM
to think boras isnt goin to go back to minaya and say beat this offer.
Posted by: williebeamen | January 10, 2009 at 06:26 PM
Really, Mets fans bitch about how much someone sucks as soon as they read that they won't sign them.
Posted by: Braddd | January 10, 2009 at 06:28 PM
Perez is too much of a flip flopper to match lowe.Though he did have 200 + ks with pittsburgh about 4 or so years ago, witch is probobly what his agent pulls ou while talking to other teams. Lowe is a ground baller who is never on the dl and gets better when he is tired, perez thowes too many pitches out of the zone. Couple that with his max-effort mechanics and you have an injury time bomb on your hands.
Posted by: Tomahawk368 | January 10, 2009 at 06:29 PM
i never wanted lowe, hes just 2 old for me, give me sheets and ollie, put redding in the long reliever slot, and if sheets gets hurt have redding and niese battle for the 5 spot.
Posted by: krazymetsfan24 | January 10, 2009 at 06:29 PM
Ned,
The Dodgers would be better off with the Braves signing Lowe than the Mets.
The STUPID Elias rankings have K-Rod ranked higher than Lowe. So, if the Mets signed Lowe, the Dodgers would get the Mets' 2nd rounder, which is lower than the Braves' 2nd rounder.
Posted by: melonis rex | January 10, 2009 at 06:29 PM
Can we put an end to the use of "sweepstakes" for at least the rest of the offseason? The only real sweepstakes this offseason were for Teixeira and Sabathia and even so, it rings false. Either way, Derek Lowe, despite solid performance and some interest, certainly doesn't warrant a "sweepstakes".
Posted by: messerbh | January 10, 2009 at 06:31 PM
Sheets and Perez, injured player meets inconsitant one. A match made in choker heaven!
Posted by: Tomahawk368 | January 10, 2009 at 06:33 PM
They need to just go ahead and give him a 4th year. i posted in another thread that we dont need him as an step in ace for any year but this one.
next year we will have hudson back so he will be our #2. Then in 2011 Hanson will def be ready and he should be slotted right after Hudson unless Hudson is not extended. By that time we could trade him going into the 2011 season if we felt like it or just let him quietly disappear. i mean yea it would suck for your #4 to be making 14 a year but in reality it wouldnt matter because our ace (Hanson) would be making league minimum
Posted by: drumzalicious | January 10, 2009 at 06:35 PM
drumza i dont think its very smart to just assume hanson will be our "ace" by 2011. Ya i think he'll be in the rotation and has a chance to be our ace but remember he's still never pitched a mlb game.
Posted by: chipperowns10 | January 10, 2009 at 06:37 PM
Can anyone tell me how good Hanson really is. A Braves fan, not a jelous Mets fan.
Posted by: Tomahawk368 | January 10, 2009 at 06:39 PM
well i said 2011 because if our rotation is healthy this year he is gonna get some more seasoning in AAA. If he is destroying AAA with like a 1.?? ERA then great that just means we have someone more reliable than morton/reyes/parr to call up in case of an injury. then you slot him in the 2010 rotation where he gets some MLB experience. So then 2011 doesnt become such a long shot to have him putting up Ace numbers.
Posted by: drumzalicious | January 10, 2009 at 06:40 PM
"Can anyone tell me how good Hanson really is. A Braves fan, not a jelous Mets fan."
Yea, because a Braves fan is going to be unbiased, lol
Posted by: iamnobody | January 10, 2009 at 06:41 PM
Can anyone tell me how good Hanson really is. A Braves fan, not a jelous Mets fan.
Posted by: tomahawk368 | January 10, 2009 at 06:39 PM
just look him up on TalkingChop.com they have alot of stuff on him from videos to stats.
He did great in AA this year and threw a No Hitter.
go here to view his stats from the Arizona Fall League. and look at the company he is in pitching wise (Buchholz, and Phil Hughes)
something like 49 K's in 28 innings
http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l119&lid=119&t=l_pit
BTW the AFL is a hitters league so those numbers are why he won the first AFL MVP as a pitcher
Posted by: drumzalicious | January 10, 2009 at 06:44 PM
Well let's see, in the AFL Hanson had a sub- 1 ERA, nearly twice as many strikeouts as innings pitched, and the most hits he ever gave up in a game was 3. Impressive even in the AFL.
Posted by: Braddd | January 10, 2009 at 06:45 PM
Braves pitching prospect Tommy Hanson was named MVP of the Arizona Fall League.
Hanson is the first pitcher to ever win the award, yet was the clear choice after going 5-0 with a 0.63 ERA in seven starts. He has not pitched above Double-A, but GM Frank Wren said he could compete for a major league roster spot this spring.
Posted by: BravoFan3736 | January 10, 2009 at 06:45 PM
"Can anyone tell me how good Hanson really is. A Braves fan, not a jelous Mets fan."
Yea, because a Braves fan is going to be unbiased, lol
Haha thats funny, but coming from a braves fan the kid is excelent. Top 3 pitching prospects in all of MLB. Completley destoyed the AFL wich is known as a hitters league. He went up against phil hughes in the all star game and blew him away. Pitched a no hitter in I believe A ball. Stikes out ALOT of people. Put it this way there was NO WAY he was included in a package for a cy young winner in peavy. All this being said we must remember he is still a prospect.
Posted by: chipperowns10 | January 10, 2009 at 06:46 PM
"Sheets and Perez, injured player meets inconsitant one. A match made in choker heaven!"
Will the "choker" meme please stop?
If the Mets sign both Sheets and Ollie, then Tim Redding and Jon Niese would be the Mets' sixth and seventh starters. Now, as much as I have bashed the Redding signing because the Mets DID overpay, having him as your 6th starter is a good place to be in. So, even if Sheets gets hurt (and, look at his IP totals, he has had at least 150 IP in all but 2 years, and in one of those 2 years he had 141 IP, which is close), the Mets have plenty of depth to step up and fix things.
Posted by: melonis rex | January 10, 2009 at 06:46 PM
srry double A
Posted by: chipperowns10 | January 10, 2009 at 06:47 PM
Thanks drumzalicious. He looks like an 09' starter!
Posted by: Tomahawk368 | January 10, 2009 at 06:49 PM
krazymetsfan24
Are you seriously going to talk about "Larry I own the Mets Jones" cheating on his wife in a post. Just because you "choked the last two years" and Minaya prefers latin players doesn't make the Mets 14 straight division champions. Maybe Chipper can have another kid and name him CITI.
Posted by: OklahomaBrave | January 10, 2009 at 06:50 PM
""Can anyone tell me how good Hanson really is. A Braves fan, not a jelous Mets fan.""
I'll try this, since I follow neither the Braves nor the Mets.
Out of guys who are either MLB ready or close to MLB ready (as in definitely up by opening day 2010, probably up sometime in '09), I'd say he's up there with Price, Anderson, and Cahill (Price is the clear-cut #1, then the other 3 are however you want to order them). Personally, I think its kind of off base to compare guys who are years away (Alderson, Bumgarner, Feliz), to guys who are close, as the latter group is more likely to replicate or come close to replicating their performances in MLB.
I would say Hanson is the best pitching prospect in the NL.
He has the ceiling of an ace, without a doubt. However, I don't see him up until later 2009, nor should he be up until that time. Personally, I'd have him start the season off at AA (high walk rates) with an opportunity for a promotion to AAA early in the season. I don't think he should be in the bigs until late in '09, because its stupid to rush up your top prospects to fill holes.
Posted by: melonis rex | January 10, 2009 at 06:55 PM
Lets see, good team has great chance of winning division and although has been given every oppurtunity to do so, doesnt, twice in a row! Chockers!
Posted by: Tomahawk368 | January 10, 2009 at 06:58 PM
Tomahawk,
i wouldnt call him an 09 starter. i would like them to take their time with him. i would prefer he not see the majors till 2010. maybe give him a late september call up and give him some relief apperances ala David Price. then during the season have him either start in AAA or go to AA first and if he throws a couple of no hitters and shows that he is above and beyond AA then move him up to AAA.
no need to rush him especially if we sign lowe. we already have starters 1-4 and our #5 is up in the air with possibly Campillo or Glavine.
then we have Morton, Reyes, and James Parr in case someone is injured or there needs to be a spot start.
Posted by: drumzalicious | January 10, 2009 at 06:59 PM
I would for sure feel a lot better about our rotation with Lowe included.
Posted by: ScottBravesfan19 | January 10, 2009 at 06:59 PM
Citi jones. Sounds great!
Posted by: Tomahawk368 | January 10, 2009 at 07:00 PM
I dont even consider James Parr as having a great chance to be in our rotation unless everyone was hurt. He just didnt really look that great to me, and Bobby Cox compared him to Chuck James at one point.......
Posted by: ScottBravesfan19 | January 10, 2009 at 07:04 PM
who cares if the braves get lowe he is on his way down, ollie will do fine with us he took care of the phillies and pretty sure the braves arent going anywhere anytime soon.
Posted by: philliekiller | January 10, 2009 at 07:09 PM
I like Glavine at #5 due the fact we have ZERO lefties in the rotation...against left handed leaning line ups it would be nice to have a Lefty
Posted by: BravoFan3736 | January 10, 2009 at 07:09 PM
Gopher ball Chuck? Ahhhhh!
Posted by: Tomahawk368 | January 10, 2009 at 07:09 PM
Lowe is a workhorse and Ollie is in over his head all the time. I swear he closes his eyes when he throwes.
Posted by: Tomahawk368 | January 10, 2009 at 07:11 PM
http://www.scoutingbook.com/players/p2291
theres actually a report on Hansen, they have him listed as prospect #43, kind of far from the top prosect for the nl?
Posted by: Zack | January 10, 2009 at 07:16 PM
The deal isn't done yet. Hudson won't be back until August at the earliest. So...
if they get Lowe,they will have Vasquez, Lowe, Kawakami?and I believe Hanson, with Campillo as a backup.
Not Bad.
Posted by: Cobra09 | January 10, 2009 at 07:18 PM
Was that guys name Philliekiller. Wow!!!!
Posted by: OklahomaBrave | January 10, 2009 at 07:19 PM
"theres actually a report on Hansen, they have him listed as prospect #43, kind of far from the top prosect for the nl?"
Top pitching prospect in the NL. Although you could give that honor to Bumgarner, Parker, or Alderson though (although I prefer guys who are closer to the bigs, as opposed to guys like Alderson/Bumgarner).
And, its a matter of opinion. Lists disagree all the time. There isn't one sure-fire formula to rank prospects.
IMO, any list that has Gio Gonzalez over Tommy Hanson is insane.
Posted by: melonis rex | January 10, 2009 at 07:20 PM
Scoutingbook.com also says Jason Heyward would compete for as the fourth or fifth outfielder in Spring Training last year for the Braves.
Posted by: beeniez | January 10, 2009 at 07:22 PM
Ask those guys in the Arizona league how they would rank Hanson.
Posted by: Cobra09 | January 10, 2009 at 07:22 PM
"who cares if the braves get lowe he is on his way down, ollie will do fine with us he took care of the phillies and pretty sure the braves arent going anywhere anytime soon."
Typical Mets fan.
Now that it looks like they are not going to sign Lowe, he's not worth squat and Perez is better.
What a joke....and a fraud.
Posted by: tolo316 | January 10, 2009 at 07:24 PM
didnt say that what the official prospect list, just threw it out there.
does anybody have another prospect list?
Posted by: Zack | January 10, 2009 at 07:25 PM
we dont need a 40 year old right handed pitcher we need a lefty and perez is better plus hes younger u honestly think ur going to win the division with old man lowe lol!!!!!
Posted by: philliekiller | January 10, 2009 at 07:28 PM
Heres a list from MLB.com:
The fans' top 10 had seven of the same 10 names as MLB.com's version. Here's how your top 10 turned out:
1. David Price
2. Matt Wieters
3. Jason Heyward
4. Cameron Maybin
5. Madison Bumgarner
6. Travis Snider
7. Matt LaPorta
8. Colby Rasmus
9. Tommy Hanson
10. Pedro Alvarez
Posted by: Braddd | January 10, 2009 at 07:33 PM
lol, does it really matter that we have latin players, they are extremely good latin players, at least our team is competing. u guys have good starting pitching depth, but u have no ace (santana), no top 10 closers in ur pen (we got 2 putz and krod) and im not even wasting my time comparing our lineups. u had a terrific run wit those 14 consecutive playoff runs, but now u gotta wait till reyes, wright, beltran, santana, krod, etc leave us and hanson and escobar mature to have a shot at beating us or the phillies
Posted by: krazymetsfan24 | January 10, 2009 at 07:34 PM
The Scouting Book's prospect list is one of the wonkiest lists I have ever seen in a long time.
How the h3ll do guys like Jason Windsor and Tyson Ross make the list when Vin Mazarro and James Simmons can't?
Posted by: melonis rex | January 10, 2009 at 07:35 PM
Little FYI: Windsor is fringey and probably will never make the bigs, Ross didn't impress anyone in A ball, Mazarro and Simmons are near-MLB ready SP who put up solid stats this year.
All are A's prospects, so I'm not biasing one team over another.
Posted by: melonis rex | January 10, 2009 at 07:37 PM
Putz is not a top 10 closer anymore >_>
Posted by: Braddd | January 10, 2009 at 07:37 PM
For the record, I'm a fan of the "World effin Champions", so I could care less who the Mets sign. No matter who it is, they'll still choke in September, lol. The Mets choking in September is an every year occurence like the changing of the seasons.
Posted by: tolo316 | January 10, 2009 at 07:41 PM
what MLB list did you look at Brad? the 50 one i saw at mlb showed hanson at 24, not 7
Posted by: Zack | January 10, 2009 at 07:42 PM
true that braddd, he is now a top set up man
Posted by: krazymetsfan24 | January 10, 2009 at 07:43 PM
true that braddd, he is now a top set up man
Posted by: krazymetsfan24 | January 10, 2009 at 07:43 PM
Ok then.
----
what MLB list did you look at Brad? the 50 one i saw at mlb showed hanson at 24, not 7
Posted by: Zack | January 10, 2009 at 07:42 PM
The one the fans made last month.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081211&content_id=3714619&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Posted by: Braddd | January 10, 2009 at 07:45 PM
yea well the "fans poll" isnt that reliable. but the MLB poll was done before the arizona fall league, regardless was just curious
Posted by: Zack | January 10, 2009 at 07:47 PM
The Bravos most likely will screw it up...ala Peavy, Burnett, etc. Mets will swoop in...Go mets!
Posted by: Art | January 10, 2009 at 08:02 PM
yea a career 4.67 FIP is fantastic
Posted by: iamnobody | January 10, 2009 at 08:04 PM
big met fan and i have to say theres no way lowe signs wit the braves. we low balled him because theres no competition for his svc's. the only team being mentioned with lowe was the mets until recently. we teied to get him on the cheap but now that the braves show interest we have to up the ante.
Posted by: williebeamen | January 10, 2009 at 08:05 PM
WOw, I will take Gonzo over Putz anyday and K-Rod wont be any better than Billy Wagner was a year or two ago so it's an improvement form last year, but not like two years ago you didnt have Wagner when he was pitching as well as ever. Mets fans are real cocky to choke every Sept. LOL
Posted by: ScottBravesfan19 | January 10, 2009 at 08:10 PM
o please no lowe, let the braves have him, hes the next pedro if we sign him
Posted by: krazymetsfan24 | January 10, 2009 at 08:10 PM
"Hah, after the Smoltz signing Braves fans were calling for a 75 win season. You sign Lowe, maybe add a bat through FA like Dunn or Abreu. Would love to see you guys get Manny. You guys are right in the thick of things if you sign Lowe.
Lowe
Vazquez
Kenshin Kawakami ?
Jurrjens
Campillo/Hanson
---looking good.
I remember you had 45 mill to spend so you could probably afford Dunn, I think you guys should get him. Be badass."
______________________________Actuallly not looking good...you're #1 starter is Javy Vazquez who is a #4-% type and Dunn and Abreu aren't going to Braves. Wren doesn't have the stones to risk that money...
1. Phil
2. NYM
3. Fla
4. Atl
5. Wash
Posted by: Art | January 10, 2009 at 08:10 PM
Did you mess fans remember how much you dumped into Santana? And the Braves want him so much they are not gonna let the chock artists sign him. Like he wants to play for you anyway. Besides, he would feel out of place ther, just like Wagner did.
Posted by: Tomahawk368 | January 10, 2009 at 08:12 PM
Ok, the Mets only choked two years people. Its not like they do it EVERY year. I don't think they will this year. I think they will just not be good enough to ever have a better record the the Phils. They're just too good.
Posted by: Braddd | January 10, 2009 at 08:13 PM
Not sure why everyone is bashing Javy Vasquez. I would not want to pitch as well if I had Ozzie as my manager breathing down my neck at every little mistake. I know Bobby can be to patient but sometimes it's good to know that if you aren't going to get thrown to the lions if you make a mistake. Ozzie strikes me as that kind of guy and Bobby has a history of getting guys to play their best.
Posted by: ScottBravesfan19 | January 10, 2009 at 08:14 PM
Pedro and lowe are far apart in their walk year performance. And that signing 4 years ago was just stupid. Lowe puts less stress on his arm and is a horse.
Posted by: Tomahawk368 | January 10, 2009 at 08:16 PM
haha good one scottbravesfan19
ya putz is worse than gonzo, did u kno putz had over a run better era than gonzo while pitching in the AL, and at least were in contention in september
Posted by: krazymetsfan24 | January 10, 2009 at 08:18 PM
Ozzie's one of the best managers in the game. Bobby Cox won 14 straight titles with a HOF pithcing staff and top-notch talent, and won how many WS's. Javy's terribly average...look at his career stats.
Posted by: Art | January 10, 2009 at 08:19 PM
If the Braves sign Lowe, it would certainly give them a very solid rotation.
That said, unless they add a power hitter of some sort, they're not going to be able to compete this year anyway.
Posted by: tolo316 | January 10, 2009 at 08:19 PM
Yeah Gonzo also gave up a HUGE chunk of his runs in games that were blow-outs at the time. When the pressure is on Gonzalez is amazing!
Posted by: ScottBravesfan19 | January 10, 2009 at 08:20 PM
wow bad mess meant to say almost half a run
Posted by: krazymetsfan24 | January 10, 2009 at 08:21 PM
All fans of anything are morons. Being biased makes people say stupid things.
Posted by: Braddd | January 10, 2009 at 08:21 PM
We shall see with Javier. I think he has great stuff and with the right motivation and a solid team behind him can be REALLY good. Hard to have a great overall record when you are with the Expos for so many years at the time he was.
Posted by: ScottBravesfan19 | January 10, 2009 at 08:21 PM
"haha good one scottbravesfan19
ya putz is worse than gonzo, did u kno putz had over a run better era than gonzo while pitching in the AL, and at least were in contention in september
Posted by: krazymetsfan24 | January 10, 2009 at 08:18 PM"
You need help with your math skills.
Posted by: Braddd | January 10, 2009 at 08:22 PM
Nice move for the Braves if they get him, I can see Lowe being effective for the next three years. He won't be intimidated by pitching in Philly or NY either, he's a good fit for Atlanta. I'm guessing the Braves end up happy that they didn't pay more for Burnett since Lowe will likely end up pitching many more innings at close to the same effectiveness.
Posted by: pageian | January 10, 2009 at 08:25 PM