Out Of Options 2009

How are all of those sox relievers "out of options"?

Ramirez, lopez and delcarmen are all going to be a part of the bullpen..

Braves - "Here’s the list of out-of-options Braves, in alphabetical order: Anderson, Boyer, Gonzalez, Lowe, Lerew, Norton, Ross, Soriano, Stockman."

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/braves/entries/2009/01/29/can_braves_affo_1.html#comment-239651603

It means that if a team wants to send these players to the minors, they have to pass through waivers first.

It means they can't be sent to the minors without clearing waivers first.

Pirates: Andy LaRoche

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"Can George Kottaras make it one the big league roster over Bard?"

Anything is possible. However, Bard does have experience as Boston's catcher (albeit for 12 games). He has more big league experience, so barring a deal for Salty, Max Ramirez, or Teagarden, expect Bard to be Varitek's backup.

Would Andy Marte bring in the kind of numbers that Alex Cora would? Or is he better? I haven't really followed his career since he was traded by Atlanta. Would he be a viable trade option for Boston as the reserve infielder (contingent on a Lugo trade)?

Or they could just cut Bard, since his deal is non-guaranteed

Giants:
Nate Schierholtz; Travis Ishikawa; Fred Lewis; possibly Jack Taschner

I wonder if Melky would clear waivers. Anybody know the time it takes before a player officially "cleared waivers"? Isn't it like 3 days?

Shane Costa from the Royals is out of options. I don't have a link but I talked to him personally. lol.

D-Lowe just signed a major league deal and is a 12-year MLB vet - why would he ever agree to a contract that would allow him to be sent to the minors?

This is from an old prospectus article:

"there is a limit to how many times a team can option a player down. Once a player gets a major-league contract (viz. "is added to the 40-man roster") he is typically eligible for optional assignment in three different seasons. He can be optioned down and called back up as many times as the club likes in each year, but the club only has that right in three individual seasons."

Exceptions: On 40 man, optioned to minors, spends less than 20 total days there (could get a 4th option year). On 40 man, used options in 3 years, but has less than 5 years in pro ball (could get a 4th, or very rarely a 5th).

Summary: Once placed on the 40 man, a player can generally have only 3 seasons where he spends time in the minors.

Pujols is NOT out of options actually....

for the Tribe, Edward Mujica is also out of options. He's fighting for the last bullpen spot with about 6 guys....

"Pujols is NOT out of options actually...."

Pujols has 8 years of service time. Teams can't option a player with at least 5 years of service.

so. yeah, Pujols is out of options.

"Or they could just cut Bard, since his deal is non-guaranteed"

Is Varitek's deal guaranteed?

Because Bard is the better catcher of the two.

Posted by: melonis rex | February 02, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Funny, the Red Sox front office doesn't seem to think so. But you know more than they do about the inner workings of the club and baseball in general. Amazing.

And you can throw out the "opinion" baloney all day, but the simple fact is that the Sox did give Tek a two year deal @ 8 million+. They have not been shy about letting star players go. They obviously still view Jason as an asset and have treated him as such.

There's not gonna be many official sites listing the players that are out of options.

For the Dodgers I think Repko and Abreu might be out of options.

Giants: Fred Lewis- http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080211&content_id=2370841&vkey=news_sf&fext=.jsp&c_id=sf

Chad Gaudin isn't out of options. On the posting three weeks ago on Cubs.com, they only listed Angel Guzman, Rich Hill, Felix Pie and Ronny Cedeno. I didn't see Wuertz or Gaudin listed.

Here's the posting : "Guzman will likely be in the Cubs' bullpen in 2009, one, because he's finally healthy after surgery on both his right shoulder and elbow, but also because he's out of options. (Other Cubs out of options include Pie, Ronny Cedeno and Rich Hill). Samardzija could be in the 'pen with the big league team or start at Triple-A Iowa, depending on what the Cubs need."

Don't see Gaudin listed there, so I don't know where he became "out of options"?

Giants: Jack Taschner- I can't yet confirm it, but I think Taschner has no options left. He has less than 3 years major league service time yet qualified as a super-two this year and has been in the organization for 10 seasons including 4 up and down with the Giants. http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090116&content_id=3747235&vkey=news_sf&fext=.jsp&c_id=sf

For the Cubs you are missing Koyie Hill, Brad Snyder, and Joey Gathright.
http://thecubreporter.com/cubs-40-man-roster

How are all of those sox relievers "out of options"?

Ramirez, lopez and delcarmen are all going to be a part of the bullpen..

Posted by: GoSoX | February 02, 2009 at 09:28 AM

The Red Sox are going to have to trade or waive someone. Not even counting Buchholz and Bowden, they've got 13 arms that belong on a major league roster:

Beckett, Josh
Matsuzaka, Daisuke
Papelbon, Jonathan
Smoltz, John
Penny, Brad
Wakefield, Tim
Saito, Takashi
Okajima, Hideki
Lopez, Javier
Delcarmen, Manny
Lester, Jon
Ramírez, Ramón
Masterson, Justin

Posted by: midtown | February 02, 2009 at 01:31 PM

midtown, you forgot about Wes Littleton.

Brewers are missing Brad Nelson

Fernando Nieve is out of options for the Astros but I can't seem to find a link at present.

Slightly off topic but it has to do with the rules for roster management, so it's tangentially related to options. How is it that Varitek has not been added to the Red Sox roster thus requiring a roster move? Does a team have a number of days that they are allowed before having to add a newly signed player to the Roster?

For the Florida Marlins:

P Jesus Delgado
P Frankie De La Cruz
P Logan Kensing
P Leo Nunez
P Dan Meyer
P Renyel Pinto

INF Robert Andino
INF Dallas McPhearson
INF Alfredo Amezaga
INF Wes Helms
OF Cody Ross

For the people that ask why would they list stars and #1 or #2 starters as being out of options... Here's the reason.

In 2008 - Phillies Brett Myers started horridly. They sent him to the minors to either clear his head or work out his mechanics...

The fact is, they would not have been able to if he did not agree to it. Had he refused, the Phillies would have either kept him in the Majors and watch his decline, or drop him or trade him.

The result was that he went down to 2 weeks and came back one of the best 2nd half pitchers and helped the Phillies win a World Series.

Dodgers: Danny Ardoin.