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Yankees Not Likely To Replace A-Rod Through Trade

7:32pm: Marc Carig of the Newark Star-Ledger has another quote from Cashman on why the Yankees will not trade for a replacement.

"With the team not wanting add payroll, not wanting to hurt the farm system and stuff like that, and we're going to get Alex back, we're going to go with what we have in camp," Cashman said.

7:08pm: According to an AP article, Brian Cashman spoke about the possibility of finding a replacement for Alex Rodriguez through the trade market saying it is not likely.

"I'm not optimistic about doing anything," Cashman said before the Yankees played Cincinnati on Tuesday night. "I'm not going to be proactive in trying to do something. If something represents itself that makes sense, then maybe it will be different. I think our answer is here in camp."

Cashman added that he has not spoken to any other GM's about a third baseman but he has heard from the agents representing free agent third basemen.

Cork Gaines writes for RaysIndex.com and can be reached here.


Comments

It never really made sense to go after someone in a trade. Giving up value for a couple month stopgap simply isn't a good use of resources, even for the Yankees.

I'm sure they'll look at guys like Esteban German and maybe Grudzielanek if the Yanks think Cano can play a solid third base.

It just never made any sense to give up talent for a guy like Teahen, when he'd get shoved to the bench within 2-3 months.

It's really quite too bad that Nomar signed with the A's.

It would've been quite the sight to see Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter and Nomar Garciaparra all on the same roster. Surely I wouldn't have believed that in 2003.

Any word if they're going to give some reps to Nady at 3B? I know he did it a few games back in the day.

Nady at 3B & Swisher full time in RF seems better than the plan they have now.

It'd be stupid to fill the hole any way other than Nady at 3rd. He's a natural 3B.

Nady has only played 3 career games at 3B. Check his fielding statistics at Baseball-Reference.com.

"It'd be stupid to fill the hole any way other than Nady at 3rd. He's a natural 3B".

If he was a "natural 3B" he wouldn't have only played THREE games there in his MLB career. He will NOT be the 3B on opening day.

Aren't they still holding Ransom as back up? This should give them plenty of time to get A-Roid back safely.

/GIVE ME BACK MY SON!

Smart decision on Cashman's part. No sense in trading away young talent for seemingly a 1-2 month replacement.

We'll take 2 box seat tickets to a Tuesday night game for Mark Teahen.

Signed,

Intelligent Royals Fans

corey koskie might be the answer dont think the cubs will keep him--if corey can prove he still can play

For all of the conspiracy theorist out there, Texas is going to playing Blalock at 3B this weekend... Kind of strange on the timing and the fact that it was announced to the media like that.

With the amount of guys the Rangers have covering ST, there will defiantly be a count on the number of scouts that see him play and from which teams.. Should be interesting to hear the rumors if his arm shows that it is healthy in the very weak 3B market.

PWHjort - So what? Because he was drafted as a 3B doesn't mean he can it in the big leagues.

Lots of guys are drafted at one position out of high school or college but can't play that position at a major league level. If Nady could play 3B, he would be a lot more valuable; there are lots of corner OF's, but not so many solid 3B.

It doesn't matter if he was drafted as a 3B/SS. Look at the statistics. He's only played 3 games in his entire professional career at 3B. All came in 2005 with San Diego. He never even played at the position in the minors - only 1B and OF.

Nady, like most veterans, is quite far removed from the player he was when he signed his first pro contract. I wish he could play third, but it's clear that he can't or he would have by now.

Posada was signed as a SS/2B. Do we want to see if that still works?

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Yankees should be fine. Ransom last year in 33 games (which is probably the amount A-Rod will miss, maybe a little more)- .302/.400/.651 in 43 AB with 4 homers

Highly unlikely he will do that again, but those are great numbers. I"m obviously not comparing Ransom to A-Rod, but I'm just saying Ransom is a good fill in assuming A-Rod is out until mid May

"Nady was drafted as a 3B-SS."

That does not mean anything. Many superstar players are drafted at one position and moved. Carl Yastrzemski was drafted as a second baseman, I think Mickey Mantle was drafted as SS (Yank fans can let know for certain), Hank Aaron played SS in the Negro leagues leagues.

With A-Rod looking like he will not be out for long now, they may play the waiting game now and see who gets cut at the end of ST, there will be some surprises (like always) for releases/waivers when final roster cuts are made and they may find a better option than Ransom if that is what they are looking for.

Considering the Yankees have never had a "defense-first" philosophy, I'm sure Nady could do fine at 3rd. If you played 3rd in college you can obviously play it decent enough to at least not embarrass yourself out there, which makes you good enough to play there every day in the Yankees' organization. I'm pretty sure they'd rather have Tex, Cano, Jeter, Nady, Swisher, CF (Don't know who'll win the job haven't been paying attention to Yankee camp), and Damon with Matsui DHing out there than Tex, Cano, Jeter, Ransom, Swisher/Nady, CF, and Damon w/ either the other of Swisher/Nady or Matsui DHing. Having one of Swisher, Nady, or Matsui on the bench when Nady can play at least not miserable 3B. I guarantee you he wouldn't be the worst defensive 3B in the league. The Yankees put people in the field because of their bats and in spite of their defense all the time. Why should this change anything? Now all of the sudden they're a defense-first philosophy team? Nady will do fine at 3B.

I meant to say "Having one of Swisher, Nady, or Matsui on the bench when Nady can play at least not miserable 3B doesn't make great sense."

I'm just hoping that this injury will give the media a time to get off A-Rod's nuts. I just wrote an article yesterday on The New Dynasty called Get Off A-Rod.

I hate seeing every word this guy says getting scrutinized. He strikes out once, media asks why. He makes a light comment about what a great player Jose Reyes is just being friendly, and the medias bangin down Jeter's door asking him how he feels that A-Rod wants him replaced.

To pull a section from my post:
"Why not ask Sabathia why he has made no attempt to drop some weight? Why not ask Jeter about his diminishing offensive and defensive capabilities (though he remains a top 10 SS in my opinion)? Why not ask Pettite why he didn’t accept the Yankees $10MM offer and why he was so greedy after posting over a 5 ERA? Why not ask Burnett how he plans to stay healthy in 2009 and beyond? I just honestly can think of so many more interesting questions to ask and work out then analyzing every word that comes out of a guys mouth who more than half of America can’t stand. The Yankees made so many huge moves this off-season. There is no way that this is the best these lazy reporters can come up with."

Santana/Beckett FTW. You're not the only one sick of hearing about A-Rod. I'm just sick of the mainstream sports media in general. On baseball tonight last night, they seriously said "when we come back, Joba Chamberlain. Is he a starter, or reliever?". I'm thinking, EVERYONE KNOWS HE'S A GOD DAMN STARTER. If not that then Manny, A-Rod, or Santana steals the show. It's all these big market teams that get the attention. That's why I prefer to read and write free, online content specific to one team. It's easy for a person to be an expert on 1 team, very difficult to be an expert on 30 teams. I guarantee you if you bookmark the best "blog" for ever team and read it once a day you'll know more about all 30 baseball teams than if you watched Baseball Tonight for an entire season.

" You're not the only one sick of hearing about A-Rod"

How about asking Tim if we could have 1 solid week of -0- topics regarding Ramirez, Martinez, or A-rod. Do you think he would go for it? I'd be happy.

LOL PWHjort. Yes, but you will also get a lot of false information. I agree with them highlighting the big market teams, because in all fairness, who really cares about a team that goes 70-92 and worse. All sports are the same way. Celtics and Lakers in basketball. Patriots and G-Men in football.

I remember the marlins team that contained Derrek Lee, Pudge Rodriguez, Josh Beckett, Mike Lowell, Carl Pavano, ect. got plenty of hype for the storm they caused across baseball. Last year Tampa Bay came out and grabbed the spotlight in the AL. Teamwise, I think the Sox, Yankees, Mets and A's this year should rightfully so carry the brunt of the media coverage.

I'm just personally sick of twisting A-Rods words into something that may be able to be considered a journalistic report, but I consider trash tv.

perhaps the cubbies to for their 100 year drought. Mean that in the most respectful way possible. Cubs are probably my second favorite team just because I can sympathize with a great franchise that just can't seem to finish the job in October. Best of luck ending the madness.

And by the way, I'll never get sick of Manny!

Manny's contract screams "I want to be a Yankee next year" to me.

player option shows manny likely wont hang around

no arbitration if he's a type A free agent shows again... he's not gonna hang around. So what team will throw him more than the 2/45 next year after Matsui and Damon are dropped? You guessed right. Manny flippin Ramirez. And I'm dreading the day.

Johns-

Then you'd have far less to read on this site, without A-Rod, Manny and Martinez..

And it'd take a long time to read 30 blogs. Baseball Tonight is pretty bad though, I just can't imagine that Steve Phillips is even remotely good enough to get that much air time. He's brutal.

Considering the Yankees have never had a "defense-first" philosophy, I'm sure Nady could do fine at 3rd. If you played 3rd in college you can obviously play it decent enough to at least not embarrass yourself out there, which makes you good enough to play there every day in the Yankees' organization. I'm pretty sure they'd rather have Tex, Cano, Jeter, Nady, Swisher, CF (Don't know who'll win the job haven't been paying attention to Yankee camp), and Damon with Matsui DHing out there than Tex, Cano, Jeter, Ransom, Swisher/Nady, CF, and Damon w/ either the other of Swisher/Nady or Matsui DHing. Having one of Swisher, Nady, or Matsui on the bench when Nady can play at least not miserable 3B. I guarantee you he wouldn't be the worst defensive 3B in the league. The Yankees put people in the field because of their bats and in spite of their defense all the time. Why should this change anything? Now all of the sudden they're a defense-first philosophy team? Nady will do fine at 3B.
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"You can put lipstick on a pig but it doesn't make you a beauty queen". Just because you stick a player at 3B doesn't make hima 3B. It's one thing to just "stick a body" in a corner OF spot. 3b can easily expose an inexperienced 3b. I would rather have a weaker bat but more experienced glove play 3b rather than sticking Nady there. Nady would have to hit .300/.400 40 hrs to jusify the amount of runs he may cost us at that position. The fact that Jeter's range is declining would make it even more of a problem because our entire left side defense would be subpar.

And by the way, I'll never get sick of Manny!

Manny's contract screams "I want to be a Yankee next year" to me.

player option shows manny likely wont hang around

no arbitration if he's a type A free agent shows again... he's not gonna hang around. So what team will throw him more than the 2/45 next year after Matsui and Damon are dropped? You guessed right. Manny flippin Ramirez. And I'm dreading the day.
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From the Yanks perspective that would just make too much sense. If the Yanks subtract Damon and Matsui leaving DH and LF open and Posada shows us that he can catch 120 gms this year then the Yanks can go after Manny for a 2 year deal. Then it puts less pressure on them from having to bid for Holliday. In fact they could avoid Holliday all together and maybe focus on other smaller options. They can stick Manny at DH, the winner of Melky/Gardner or Ajax at CF, play Swisher in LF or RF and maybe go after Coco Crisp (if $8 mil option is declined), Baldelli (if healthy), Bay (if available) or resign Nady.

ARod might be back in 6-8 weeks, but I doubt he will be 100 % healthy any time during the season. I think it is a joke that ARod is getting paid $32 million ayear way overpaid. For that amount-you could get Peavy Pujols and Fuentes.

YanksFan, your front office hasn't given a rat's ass about defense for as long as I can remember. Yes, I know it'd be a bad defensive move. However, I think Nady's bat is more than that much bigger than the replacement. And Nady played 3B in college. No, that doesn't mean he can do it well at the MLB level, but it means he does have some experience playing the position. Even if he has pathetic range, which I don't know that he does, he has a decent arm and knows enough about the position to be able to play it just fine for a month. Now, long-term, it'd be a terrible idea for the Yankees. 1 month though, I think Nady at 3rd with Swisher and Damon at the corner OF's and Matsui DHing is probably your best option.

"If you played 3rd in college you can obviously play it decent enough to at least not embarrass yourself out there"

Gary Sheffield disagrees with that statement.

Ryno. When Pujols signs his next contract he'll probably make close to, and not necessarily below, 30 million dollars a year.

"For that amount-you could get Peavy Pujols and Fuentes."

Yeah problem is those 3 have never been on the open market. Put them out there for everyone to bid on and I guarantee you're not getting all 3 for under $32 million dollars.

Not true, jvg019. Fuentes entered the market this off-season and signed with the Angels.

Sorry meant to say in my post when all 3 enter the free agent market it will total more than $32 million. I worded my response poorly.

Nady playing third in college means nothing. It's a tougher position to play in the majors, he hasn't played it in years, and he obviously moved off of the position for a reason. There are guys who played shortstop in college that are in left field now.

Nady's bat isn't much better than league average, so his value at third base would surely be negative. Playing Ransom or even adding Esteban German makes way more sense than trying to force Nady into third base.

Think about a Nady/Jeter left side of the infield.. I just gagged a little too..

Playing third in college doesn't mean nothing. Don't talk about things you know nothing about. Even if his range isn't good he knows how to play the position and has the instincts of a 3B. People generally shift towards the right end of the defensive spectrum throughout their minor league careers. However, even if he doesn't have the makings of an every day 3B, he knows enough about the position to fill in for a month.

And Nady went straight from the draft to the majors. The reason he originally switched from infield to outfield is the Padres already had Phil Nevin as their every-day 3B but needed outfielders. They then decided they liked him better there. Had nothing to do with him being unable to adequately field the 3B position.

YanksFan, your front office hasn't given a rat's ass about defense for as long as I can remember. Yes, I know it'd be a bad defensive move. However, I think Nady's bat is more than that much bigger than the replacement. And Nady played 3B in college. No, that doesn't mean he can do it well at the MLB level, but it means he does have some experience playing the position. Even if he has pathetic range, which I don't know that he does, he has a decent arm and knows enough about the position to be able to play it just fine for a month. Now, long-term, it'd be a terrible idea for the Yankees. 1 month though, I think Nady at 3rd with Swisher and Damon at the corner OF's and Matsui DHing is probably your best option.
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Ok, you say our FO hasn't cared about defense in years. Where has that put is? Hitting, pitching and defense. Those are the the basic things a championship caliber team needs to do. The hitting has been there. The pitching was drastically improved upon this year. Ridding ourselves of Giambi/Duncan/Bettemit @ 1b and replacing them with Teixeira goes along way to improving the defense.

Simply put, the offense Nady might provide over Ransom or other vs what you might lose defensively isn't enough to justify movind Nady to third.

Peavy is signed thru 2012 w/ option 2013. Fuentes just signed 2 years + option, and Pujols is sign thru 2010 with option in 2011. My point being is that the money you pay for ARod you can get 2 or 3 solid players.

And Nady went straight from the draft to the majors. The reason he originally switched from infield to outfield is the Padres already had Phil Nevin as their every-day 3B but needed outfielders. They then decided they liked him better there. Had nothing to do with him being unable to adequately field the 3B position.
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Dude....you are so off. Nady did go straight from the draft to the majors......exactly 1 at bat. He was drafted in the 2000 draft, played 1 game w/ 1 at bat. He then spent all of 2001 and 2002 in the minors. In total, he played 381 minor league games in parts of 4 years AND not a single games as a 3b in any of those minor league games. Where are you getting all of this from? Other than the 3 games he played at third in 2005 he hasn't played a single game @ 3b since 2000, his 1 and only year in college.

Yes it is.

No to Nady at 3B. We should not be playing musical chairs with baseball positions. I get the whole idea of having Swisher play more, which I would like, but I think he'll get good playing time backing up 4 positions (all OF and 1B) and let's face it... someone will probably get hurt somewhere along the line (probably Matsui or Damon), and he could fill in accordingly.

Yes to Manny in 2010... IF he performs well (shouldn't be a problem for him) and acts respectable too (may be a problem for him).

Peavy is signed thru 2012 w/ option 2013. Fuentes just signed 2 years + option, and Pujols is sign thru 2010 with option in 2011. My point being is that the money you pay for ARod you can get 2 or 3 solid players.
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Why are you even making this comparison? Ok, you can sign OCabrera, Ohudson, Abreu, and Adam Dunn for what Manny signed for as well? How is that relevant to anything? What the guy meant is that Puols and Peavy have never, ever hit the OPEN market. Both Peavy and Pujols signed their deals while they were still under control by their teams to avoid arbitration. Because there was no open competition bidding for their services the team got a "home team" discount and the player received early security for their careers.

Me talking about things I don't know about?

After ten years of not playing third, I'm guessing his instincts at the position aren't too good anymore.

And Nady straight to the majors from the draft? What? He spent all of 2001 and most of 2002 in the minors, and didn't get legitimate MLB time until 2003.

If Nady was even solid defensively at third, he wouldve supplanted Nevin, who's defense wasn't exactly great. If anything, Nady was moved off third upon being drafted because of Sean Burroghs.

You're really, really underrating how detrimental a Nady/Jeter 3B/SS combo would be to that team defensively.

The Royals are trying Teahen at 2B, a position he hasn't played since college.

Results - embarrassing.

Did anyone see how out of place Tejada looking during the WBC when he played 3B? He was slow and his instincts were off. Asking Nady to play 3B is almost like asking a probate lawyer to litigate a murder trial. Sure he went to law school just like a criminal lawyer but criminal defense is not his expertise. And in the majors, that's what you want....expertise. Demonstrated proficiency at a given position. It’s one thing to have a utility guy who plays above average at 1 position and then is just serviceable at 2 or 3 others where he might play sparingly when the regular needs a day off. However, to stick a guy at a position he hasn’t played in almost 10 years, beside a player at SS with slower range and in front of a LF with aging legs and a weak arm is a recipe for disaster.

I said this before. I'm grateful for all the moves the Yanks made this year. We are great at making the "big splash" moves but I think we made 1 mistake this year. W/o knowing whether or not Nomar had any interest in coming to NY or not, I thought he was an obvious FA for us to pursue. Every year we seem to suffer one inury that keeps someone out for a while. We've always had to go looking for someone at the deadline. Our starting rotation is solid 1-5. Our AAA staff is deep as well (Hughes, IPK, Aceves, Tomko, Igawa, Horne, Sanchez). Our bullpen depth is crazy as between our mlb/AAA staff we have Bruney, Marte, Coke, Ramirez, Albaladejo, Veras, Robertson, Melancon, Giese and others. All power arms for the most part. I think Swisher provides us with great depth by his ability to play (at varying degrees) LF/CF/RF and 1B. Damon (at varying degrees) can play LF or CF. Melky can play all 3 spots. Nady can play LF and RF. Where we were lacking was a proven offensive bat that could cover for us for a length of time on the left side (3B and SS). Nomar was an obvious choice and would've been a GREAT bat off the bench. Back all that up with Ransom as the "glove" utility guy and I think there would've been no need for us to look anywhere for a replacement player, barring some crazy rash of inuries to 3 or 4 guys at the same time.

What would you rather have. And keep in mind you're the Yankees so you don't care about defense. At all.

Teixeira - 1B
Cano - 2B
Jeter - SS
Nady - 3B
Swisher - RF
We'll say Melky- CF
Damon - LF
Posada - C
Matsui - DH

OR

Teixeira - 1B
Cano - 2B
Jeter - SS
Ransom - 3B
Nady - RF
Melky - CF
Damon - LF
Posada - C
Matsui - DH

with Swisher on the bench?

And keep in mind you are the Yankees. You don't care about defense.

Garciaparra would have come in handy about now, then when he is playing any position other than 1B for extended periods, he is fragile also over the past 5+ years as well.

This is only a 1-month fix. After A-Rod is back, they go back to Swisher on the bench and Nady in right. For 1 month you can't give away THAT many runs in the field, even at 3B. Also, of all the arguments I've heard, I'm yet to hear ONE piece of empirical evidence that Nady is or ever was a bad 3B.

It's not just about how bad Nady would be at third. If he was an elite bat it would be different.

Nady is essentially a league average offensive player, so with awful defense he would be quite below average as a third baseman. Ransom's superior value defensively far outweighs the differences offensively.

And your logic here is simply obscenely flawed. You have heard any evidence that can't be a third baseman? What the hell is the legitimate evidence that he can? It's not about evidence that he can't be a third baseman. It's about the fact that there's NO evidence that he can be even below average at third. Your only argument is a completely flawed and illegitimate one, as his college position doesn't have much bearing on his ability to play the position at this level.

Nady simply isn't going to third. In that division, the Yankees can't afford to have two awful defenders manning the left side of their infield.

Defense matters A LOT.

Why do you think the Yanks don't care about defense? Why do you think they wanted Teixeira? What team with hopes of winning HONESTLY doesn't care about defense? It's one thing to be saddled with aging players who's defense may have declined (Jeter and Damon) or players that may have regressed (Cano) but don't ever think they're comfortable with a team who's poor defensively.

This is only a 1-month fix. After A-Rod is back, they go back to Swisher on the bench and Nady in right. For 1 month you can't give away THAT many runs in the field, even at 3B. Also, of all the arguments I've heard, I'm yet to hear ONE piece of empirical evidence that Nady is or ever was a bad 3B.
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Show me one ounce of empirical evidence that Nady would be GOOD at 3B? It's 2009 and since 2000, (when he was in college), he's played exactly 3 gms at 3B. That's including all of his minor league games. Why do you think he would make a decent 3B? It could take him a full month just to readjust to the position. Playing the IF is a lot more than just catching and throwing the ball. It's about instincts, anticipation and knowing where to position yourself. A ball will get to you a lot quicker @ 3B than it does in LF. And there's a lot more responsibilities at 3B than any OF position.

Even though I'm against moving any regular player (Cano, Teixeira or Swisher) to 3B, I'd me more comfortable moving an IF to 3B than I would an OF who hasn't played there in almost 10 years.

"Smart decision on Cashman's part. No sense in trading away young talent for seemingly a 1-2 month replacement."

I'm not so sure about that. What about when the hip starts breaking down toward the end of the season? Remember, he'll be the same age Lowell was last season.

Yeah but Lowell did have any surgery until it was too late right?

"Yeah but Lowell did have any surgery until it was too late right?"

Correct, Lowell knew for certain his was getting much worse by June and started missing games every so often as early as the beginning of July from it. The difference here could be waiting for the off season for the surgery, as compared to A-Rod getting his surgery now, as early as possible before the season begins since they have finally found it and Lowell's they did not really find until right at mid season anyway. Playing on it probably did make the surgery take the longer recovery period, but he did appear in his 1st game on Tuesday.

I agree with the Yanks not moving nady, or anyone else to 3rd with a poor glove as a stop gap who is un familiar with the position. having Jeter with his range not what it was would not be good.

I have to beg to differ also on the overall Yankee defense also, other than Tex, it is not very impressive. If Cabrerra is in CF it will be better.

With A-Rod out overall defense is hurting. A-Rod is a good defensive 3B.

Trust me, I'm not asserting that the team defense is good, just that Cashman's hands are tied somewhat in terms of the roster. 1B was an obvious area where we could improve because of the vacancy. That's why we never hears a FA name like Adam Dunn mentioned as a possibility at 1st. All the other spots were pretty much locked except for 1B and CF. He choose not to go with Cameron because I think he felt that Melky/Gardner could hand the job.

People shouldn't under estimate the signifigane that Tex can have on the overall IF defense. Cano doesn't have to cheat to his left anymore to cover for a poor glove/no range @ 1b and he can afford to cheat to his right to compensate for Jeter. When a healthy Arod and Cano are on the field they can pick up the slack in range for Jeter and maybe not expose his poor range as much.

pardon the typos

Hopefully, A-Roid has some HGH saved from 07 so that he can heal faster! LOL!

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