Brett Myers May Need Hip Surgery

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Beg Toronto to let them pillage the system for Halladay.

Lets make Park our #2.

this could be a blessing in disguise for Philly. They really need a starter.. Myers hasn't been a consistent #2 for them this year, Moyer has been garbage, Blanton hasn't been good either.. they really need help in their rotation

oh and when you promote from Lehigh Valley don't forget to move Worley to Lehigh Valley and Drabek to Reading. They're both overdue to move up.

"Call up Carrasco NOW. An FIP around 3 in AAA indicates MLB readiness."

Wow, I was about to type pretty much the same thing, and then I reloaded the page and here it is..

They need to call up Carrasco and look around for another starter.

And it's really too bad that they signed Moyer to that 2/12 contract, which seemed like a bad idea from the moment it was signed, at least to me.

oh and word was Ruben was at Vance Worley's last start in AA when he pitched 7 shutout innings. Maybe they surprise like a couple years back when they brought up Kendrick and promote from Reading??? phils sites are suggesting this may be the way they go.

Mariners SP Erik Bedard to the Phillies for SS Jason Donald, SP Carlos Carrasco and SP Kyle Kendrick.

Or Mariners send SP Erik Bedard and Jarrod Washburn to the Phillies for SS Jason Donald, SP Carlos Carrasco, SP Kyle Kendrick, OF Michael Taylor and SP Jamie Moyer. (The catch is that Seattle picks up Moyer's contract.)

Phillies get a rotation of: Hamels, Bedard, Blanton, Washburn and Happ for a playoff push. They also get to forget about Moyer's contract.

Mariners get young talent and a familiar veteran to advise a young Seattle rotation.

The only catch to "Or Mariners send SP Erik Bedard and Jarrod Washburn to the Phillies for SS Jason Donald, SP Carlos Carrasco, SP Kyle Kendrick, OF Michael Taylor and SP Jamie Moyer. (The catch is that Seattle picks up Moyer's contract.)

Phillies get a rotation of: Hamels, Bedard, Blanton, Washburn and Happ for a playoff push. They also get to forget about Moyer's contract."

Is that Bedard and Washburn combined make 17M. Phillies don't have that type of room. If they did they would of just signed Burnett, Lowe, or someone better than Bedard and Washburn

"Mariners SP Erik Bedard to the Phillies for SS Jason Donald, SP Carlos Carrasco and SP Kyle Kendrick."

Horrible, horrible, horrible deal for Philadelphia.

Carrasco alone is worth far more than Bedard. Six years of Carrasco is more valuable than four months of Bedard. VERY SIMPLE.

To think that they would include any additional talent, like a top SS prospect, is madness.

As melonis said, Philly fans should be furious if they deal Carrasco, Drabek, Donald, Taylor, Brown or Marson for Bedard.

If they're willing to deal those guys, then go hard after Peavy, Halladay or Oswalt, if at all possible.

Otherwise, I think that something like Joe Savery, Antonio Bastardo and a low level prospect like Sergio Escalona would be a solid offer for Bedard.

How about one of those NBA type trades…Where one team says sure I’ll trade you my best player but since I don’t really want to your gonna have to take a bad contract also

The Phillies get Halladay but agree to take on most of or all of Veron Wells’ contract? (09 $10mil, 10 $21mil, 11 $23mil can opt out after season, 12 $21mil, 13 $21mil, 14 $21mil, 15 FA) or Alex Rios’ not near as bad contract? (09 $5.9mil, 10 $9.7mil, 11 $12mil, 12 $12mil, 13 $12.5mil, 14 $12.5mil, 15 $13.5mil club option w/$1mil buyout, 2016: FA)

Philles trade Victorino and some combo of Carrasco, Knapp, Savery, Worley, Bostardo, Marson, Donald, Mayberry, Brown, Taylor…. and a lesser prospect or two?

"How about one of those NBA type trades…Where one team says sure I’ll trade you my best player but since I don’t really want to your gonna have to take a bad contract also

The Phillies get Halladay but agree to take on most of or all of Veron Wells’ contract? (09 $10mil, 10 $21mil, 11 $23mil can opt out after season, 12 $21mil, 13 $21mil, 14 $21mil, 15 FA) or Alex Rios’ not near as bad contract? (09 $5.9mil, 10 $9.7mil, 11 $12mil, 12 $12mil, 13 $12.5mil, 14 $12.5mil, 15 $13.5mil club option w/$1mil buyout, 2016: FA)

Philles trade Victorino and some combo of Carrasco, Knapp, Savery, Worley, Bostardo, Marson, Donald, Mayberry, Brown, Taylor…. and a lesser prospect or two?

Posted by: pb | May 28, 2009 at 06:19 PM

You're kidding right?

"The difference between the two is simple.

FIP attempts to discount the effects of defense, park effects (i.e. pitching in Petco as opposed to Arlington), and luck on pitching, thus better reflecting the pitcher's true talent level as opposed to defense or luck.

ERA is earned run average, or how many runs a pitcher is expected to give up per 9 innings (with the exception of those infused by errors). However, it doesn't take into account that a middle infield of Utley and Rollins will convert more groundballs into outs than a middle infield of Castillo and Renteria because the first pair has much better range."

Thanx

As a 'Stros fan, I love Oswalt, but if they could send him to Philly for one of Carrasco/Bastardo along with Drabek and Donald, they have to do it.

thats what he gets for being a wife-beater

sorry I wouldn't give more than a B prospect (Stutes, Cloyd for example)for Marquis. making almost 10 million this year and he's not a great improvement. I'd rather see what Carrasco, Bastardo or even Carpenter can do.

"thats what he gets for being a wife-beater "

Seriously? Wow.

Well the O's relased Adam Eaton didnt they maybe its Eaton time part deux. LOL @PHILTHY FANS

"As a braves fan i'm not sure if this is good or bad. yeah philly's #2 went down but that could fuel them more to get an oswalt or bedard"

My thoughts exactly. The Phillies rotation is better off with Hamels/Bedard/Blanton/Moyer/Happ, then with Hamels/Myers/Blanton/Moyer/Happ, so I don't know what to think. Phillies certainly can't complain, the Mets have Delgado, Reyes, Church, Perez on the DL and the Braves have a hurting Chipper and their ace on the DL.

"As a 'Stros fan, I love Oswalt, but if they could send him to Philly for one of Carrasco/Bastardo along with Drabek and Donald, they have to do it."

Rough times for 'Stros fans. I think Houston makes that move, yeah. Houston has to get younger and better, and Oswalt could get help more by netting a group of solid prospects than by being a frontline pitcher for the next few years. That package of Donald/Carrasco and Drabek is a definite deal made.
There are probably a lot of matches for Houston; moving Oswalt *somewhere* is the right move. He'd be tough to move due to his full no-trade, but it could work. He is under contract through '11, and he's a good bit cheaper than Peavy. I just don't think he's gonna be worth picking up that option in 2012. You can't like the way his FIP/WAR is trending. And Houston, as they're currently constructed, just isn't a contender. One of the more ridiculous true things I've read in awhile is that Oswalt has been working the front office to make a move for Peavy. I mean, you cant blame the guy for trying, but wow...talk about a bad idea. And how the hell does that happen, Roy? What's the package that San Diego gets back?
The front office has run that team into the ground and that blows for Houston fans, and NL fans in general. Those STL-Houston rivalry years, culminating in the '05 NLCS, were epic. Blow it up and start over, guys.

alright while i shouldn't answer mentally deficent people I can't help myself.

LOL...phillies fans trying to call me out as not showing class ..again...PHILLIES

such class...way to give jamie moyer a 2 year deal, what an organization

you're absolutely right. WAIT FOR IT . . . what a horrible organization. NOT YET . . .I mean its not like they won the WS last year ALMOST . . .or are two time defending champs of their division are they?

oh wait, DOH.

*head

"You know I don't know if I've ever seen such a "rash" of mlb players suffering from hip injuries...Arod, Lowell, Utley..now Myers....interesting.

Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | May 28, 2009 at 07:32 PM"

All those needles to the hip.

Im just kidding calm down.

LOL...if you are going to be calling someone dumb, at least proofread you comment...LOL...its funny to see how phillie fans react when something finally goes wrong

Posted by: wright is my boy | May 28, 2009 at 11:51 PM

you may want to do the same kiddo.

"its funny to see how phillie fans react when something finally goes wrong"

Its not like we are jumping off the bridge here. this isnt like he is a position player where you can just put a bandaid on the problem. There is potential he will be out for the rest of year. With the rotation that we have just will not get it done. So us Phils fans are looking for solution to what would be a problem.

It goes to show the class of you when you wish and are happy that someone gets hurt. But hey at least you won the world series last year, oh wait you didnt, and at least your the 2 time divison champs, oh yea.

Bastardo is throwing better than Carrasco right now.

Carrasco had a real rough patch this month where he got hit very hard...was better his last outing, but Bastardo has been lights out all year at Reading and dominant in 2 AAA starts

He deserves that rotation spot

i doubt that phils would give up brown or drabek in any deal unless its for Roy Halladay. With the emergance of Bastardo i think Carrasco is a little bit more expandable to use him a trade chip to get a good pitcher.

hey beane trade philly...

eveland
springer
gray
blevins
casilla

too bad duchscherer is injured, he'd have value

A's dont need them with bailey, ziegler, wuertz + demel/carignan/hrod not far off

Like A-Rod and Delgado, this hip thing with Myers sounds like a steroid injury.

It has been official that he is going to have surgery. They dont want to say it is season ending because he could be back by the end of the year. Supposedly it is similar to the hip injury that Utley suffered. In fact, the same Dr that did Utley's surgery is going to do Myer's.