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Discussion: Josh Fields' Future
As recently reported by Mark Gonzales at the Chicago Tribune, with the recent slotting of top prospect Gordon Beckham at third, White Sox GM Kenny Williams admits that Josh Fields' future with the team is "undefined":
"I see it here in Chicago and certainly, this isn't an indication we're
giving up on Josh, but you guys understand we're all about winning here."
Williams goes on to say there's a place for Fields "right now," though, as Gonzales notes, the surplus of Pale Hose infielders offers an opportunity to swing a deal and patch some holes. Fields has seen his share of ups and downs for the Sox--he was seen to be the future at third after he jacked 23 homers in 373 at-bats in 2007, but he hasn't flashed that potential since. He's posted a meager .626 OPS in 176 at-bats this year.
Do you see Fields staying with the Sox? Or would he make sense for a team starved for depth at the corners like, say, the Mets? Could he command any useful parts for Kenny Williams, or would he be selling too low?
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the o's could use him, but i dont know what theyd give in return
Posted by: THEBIGFISH99 | June 06, 2009 at 07:28 PM
tough to say, viciedo isn't exactly tearing it up with the obp (.303) with 43Ks and 6BBs
beckham, hopefully, will get up to speed soon, and i'm sure they're going to be fairly patient with him (again, hopefully).
all in all, i wouldn't mind seeing him go...though the return wouldn't be that great.
Posted by: part-time pariah | June 06, 2009 at 07:32 PM
Trade him, see if you can put him in for a package of some starting pitcher or something.
Posted by: kcatlantis | June 06, 2009 at 07:32 PM
hold out, he won't get much and he can still heat up
Posted by: gogopalehose | June 06, 2009 at 07:39 PM
Has Fields ever played 1st?
As far as I know the Sox have noone to back up Konerko at 1st on the big league club
Posted by: ThatDamnLefty | June 06, 2009 at 07:42 PM
"Trade him, see if you can put him in for a package of some starting pitcher or something."
probably the most feasible option.
Posted by: part-time pariah | June 06, 2009 at 07:43 PM
I am all about winning now... but moving Josh won't solve much... I would be willing to go the other route and explore a trade for Konerko. There have been rumors of him being traded every year (and yes i know he has a no trade clause). I would like to see the captain stay, but I wouldn't be overly depressed if he left. If that were to happen, you might be able to get some more valuable pieces in return and Josh could plug the hole at first for the next year. If he develops a little more, great... if not, then you can move on without him and you can get aggressive in the off season or next year before the trade deadline.
Posted by: Xavier 33 | June 06, 2009 at 07:49 PM
i believe that's why we got daryl ward...worst case scenario.
Posted by: part-time pariah | June 06, 2009 at 07:49 PM
Cardinals can use him
Posted by: Knuffy | June 06, 2009 at 07:52 PM
paging billy beane...offer one of the many depth pitchers: eveland/gray/casilla/banwart/fernandez/godfrey etc
Posted by: arly2380 | June 06, 2009 at 07:54 PM
I'm sure the Mariners would like him as a potential replacement for Adrian Beltre.
Posted by: blueandteal | June 06, 2009 at 08:17 PM
A's really need a 3B, so they could be a match.
Posted by: Zonis | June 06, 2009 at 08:27 PM
I could see him going to the A's,
Posted by: kcatlantis | June 06, 2009 at 08:44 PM
A's give Vin Mazzaro for Fields and a low prospect
Posted by: ChiSox723 | June 06, 2009 at 08:56 PM
I;d take that, what about the other pitcher we got for swisher, not marquez the other guy
Posted by: kcatlantis | June 06, 2009 at 09:00 PM
I doubt the A's would give Mazzaro for Fields.
A's might do Gallagher or Eveland for Fields though.
Posted by: Zonis | June 06, 2009 at 10:26 PM
A trade that could actually be fairly even is a trade Josh Fields for Rick Ankiel. The Sox get a bat that can produce and has a great arm at center field while the Cardinals fill their gaping hole at 3rd. Sure it isn't the best case scenario but both teams are really struggling at those posistions and a Fields/Ankiel swap would fix those.
Posted by: ChiSoxKilla23 | June 06, 2009 at 11:56 PM
I think that mazzaro for fields and a B prospect could happen.
But how about, Trevor Cahill for Fields and Aaron Poreda?
Posted by: ChiSox723 | June 07, 2009 at 12:11 AM
Kclantis,
I think u r talking about Jhonny Nuñez. And yeah, I definitely agree that him and fields could land mazzaro
Posted by: ChiSox723 | June 07, 2009 at 12:13 AM
I seriously doubt Fields goes anywhere. If the White Sox need anything right now or in the future, it's a power bat at a corner at third, and Fields can do that if he gets his act back together. Beckham would be great at second or short, and him and Ramirez can be interchangeable there with Beckham. Getz seems more destined for a utility position in the future anyways. For now, Fields should be sent down to Triple-AAA to get his act back together, and learn better plate discipline, and then the White Sox's infield can be good finally.
Posted by: bballrox4717 | June 07, 2009 at 12:21 AM
Fields has been down to AAA enough. The Sox have eased him in, given him enough games, and he still hasn't produced. He is out of options so a trade would have to be in order.
Posted by: ChiSoxKilla23 | June 07, 2009 at 12:33 AM
Don't think you will be able to get Ankiel for Fields. Fields + others and maybe.
Posted by: bjsguess | June 07, 2009 at 02:15 AM
Don't think you will be able to get Ankiel for Fields. Fields + others and maybe.
Posted by: bjsguess | June 07, 2009 at 02:15 AM
Why would u wanna trade Pauly Xavier 33? He has been our most consistent hitter and his defense has been great as usual. Right now this team needs all the offense it can get and moving Fields to 1st in place of Pauly would only hurt us. I would have no problem with trading fields because he is not really a utiilty player. I would try to package him and Getz with prospects to try and get Freddy Sanchez. Or just wait awhile to make sure Bacon can handle his biz at 3rd and then move him.
ChiSox723:
But how about, Trevor Cahill for Fields and Aaron Poreda?
u can't be serious, can u?
Posted by: chitownpete | June 07, 2009 at 02:38 AM
I think the Sox are going to stick to what I always thought of as the original plan.
Dye is gone at the end of the season. (unfortunately)
Thome is too. (also unfortunate)
Konerko moves to DH.
Viciado moves to 1B as a rookie. (I would rather see Allen there)
Beckham to SS.
Ramirez to CF.
Anderson to RF (if still employed) (can switch Ramirez and Anderson).
Getz plays 2B.
and Fields Stays at 3B.
I personally would love too see both these guys stay as I think Fields still has promise and Beckham will be good. That's why you have to move Alexi to the outfield after this season. I would also love to see a Dye extension in place and have Anderson just be the defensive replacement.
Posted by: BlueFlounder12 | June 07, 2009 at 03:06 AM
What about swapping Fields straight up for Jeff Francoeur, both could use a change of scenery it seems and Jeff would definitely be better with a manager like Ozzie who 's not gonna baby him all the time.
Posted by: siskel_god | June 07, 2009 at 07:13 AM
That's great & all siskel, but where exactly does he play for the Braves? If healthy, Chipper's at 3rd. If healthy, Kotchman's at 1st. There's no chance Fields can play RF...So you're proposing an every day Braves OF of Anderson, McLouth, Diaz? That seems nonsense to me. And regarding your statement, Blue, I feel that is almost impossible. That's A LOT of moving parts, I can't remember any team moving so many people around like that. Doubt it goes down that way.
Posted by: ksesxe | June 07, 2009 at 07:38 AM
You are assuming that Chipper plays, which I can assure you he doesn't. At this point I would trade that pansy for Jose Contreras and a batboy to be named later.
Posted by: siskel_god | June 07, 2009 at 07:45 AM
Not much you can do with Fields right now except wait. Its so ironic how a few of us were blasted this spring for suggesting that Beckham would show up by mid year. M Rex????? :-)
Posted by: tdogg | June 07, 2009 at 08:00 AM
"A's might do Gallagher or Eveland for Fields though."
I do Eveland, but not Gallagher.
Gallagher's FIP in '08 was 4.48 and his '09 FIP was 4.53 (his ERA was ridiculously high b/c of a flukey BABIP and LOB%). That's league average as an SP. High BABIP and low LOB% have hurt his ERA both years. He's also 3 years younger than Fields.
Posted by: melonis rex | June 07, 2009 at 09:11 AM
You are assuming that Chipper plays, which I can assure you he doesn't. At this point I would trade that pansy for Jose Contreras and a batboy to be named later.
Posted by: siskel_god | June 07, 2009 at 07:45 AM
Are you referring to the future hall of fame pansy that batted .364 last season? The pansy who has missed a grand total of 9 games this year? And the pansy who is posting an ops of .917? The pansy who has been the face of the franchise for the past 16 years?
Get a clue...
Posted by: Jason F | June 07, 2009 at 09:17 AM
Don't think you will be able to get Ankiel for Fields. Fields + others and maybe.
Posted by: bjsguess | June 07, 2009 at 02:15 AM
With the way Clint Rasmus is playing, Ankiel will be the 4th outfielder when he comes back and the Cards are playing Joe Thruston at 3rd....that is being pretty desperate right there.
Posted by: ChiSoxKilla23 | June 07, 2009 at 10:34 AM
I'm pretty sure Fields is out of options and there's no way he sneaks through waivers with a minimum salary. His swing needs rebuilding as well as his confidence (at the plate and at 3B). I love his attitude but don't see much value in a trade right now. "Project" players appeal in the offseason - not when a contender (like the Sox) are fighting for the post-season. It's a sticky situation for the Sox. Perhaps if paired with another player, he provides "value added" in a trade. Might as well package him with BA - that would make 3 first round busts (Broadway) traded in the past month. Note to KW: please, no more college QB's in the 1st round!
Posted by: 4appling | June 07, 2009 at 11:22 AM
I think the Sox should trade Getz for Sanchez from the Pirates and also a low level prospect from them. The Bucs won't be contending and from what I heard everyone whose making any money that's not the league minimum is leaving.
Posted by: soxfan4life | June 07, 2009 at 01:12 PM
chitownpete
The whole reason i suggested Konerko being traded is for the only fact that he is doing well this year, and would be one of the few guys on the team that would bring something in return. With the time invested in fields, you wouldn't get anything for that... so i just figure that we can let fields work on whatever he needs to do to bring some trade value to his stock and either sell high on him next year, or keep him if you feel he can be a valuable piece for the future...
i can also allow konerko to leave because we need the "small ball" to return to chicago, and with thome being done after the year, konerko moving on and dye being done... you have the room to bring faster guys who don't just play station to station...
and like i said before, i am all about winning... but i do think that there needs to be a shift with the way this team plays... and it may take a year or two
Posted by: Xavier 33 | June 07, 2009 at 01:13 PM
"Are you referring to the future hall of fame pansy that batted .364 last season? The pansy who has missed a grand total of 9 games this year? And the pansy who is posting an ops of .917? The pansy who has been the face of the franchise for the past 16 years?"
Yes Jason I am referring to the same pansy who missed 40 games last year and a week this year with a sore big toe, the same pansy who took himself out of the game last night because he was dizzy. He missed games this year because his thumb hurt, HIS THUMB! That is the exact same pansy a$$ mofo that I am talking about. True CJ has only missed 9 complete games, but out of the 46 he has played, he took himself out early twice and only pinched hit 4 times. 15 games on the bench 60 games into the season is a pretty big deal to me. 25 percent of the time he is on the pine, and is still one of, if not the league leader in errors at 9. Now how about you go get that clue jerk0ff.
Posted by: siskel_god | June 07, 2009 at 03:09 PM
One more thing jerk, Mad Dog, Glav, and Smoltzie were always the face of the franchise. Chipper was never a fan favorite until he carried us in 99' and won the MVP, and until Smoltz left this winter he was still the face of the franchise.
Posted by: siskel_god | June 07, 2009 at 03:13 PM