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Cardinals Acquire Matt Holliday

2:10: The Cards officially announced the trade, according to MLB.com's Matthew Leach.

11:39am: Derrick Goold of the Post-Dispatch says there's been no talk of an extension for Holliday. As Tim asks on MLBTR's Twitter, "when has a Boras client foregone free agency two months out to take a discount?"

11:16am: ESPN.com's Buster Olney reports that the deal is complete. The A's will contribute $1.5MM to the remainder of Holliday's salary, which leaves the Cards with about $4.5MM.

11:11am: Bernie Miklasz of the St. Louis Post Dispatch says the teams are reviewing the players' medical records. The deal will go through unless they encounter an unexpected medical issue.

11:07am: Ed Price of AOL FanHouse hears the deal will go down. A source tells Price the sides are "finalizing as we speak."

10:58am: Jon Heyman of SI.com says the deal is "very close" to completion. 

10:21am: The Cardinals are close to acquiring Matt Holliday from the A's for Brett Wallace and two other players, according to ESPN.com's Tim Kurkjian. Outfielder Shane Peterson and righty Clayton Mortensen are also headed to Oakland if the deal goes through.

It's unclear who would pay Holliday the remaining $6MM on his contract should the teams complete a trade.


Comments

someone is making some noise!

HAHA I just linked this on a story below for Holliday.

Expensive acquisition for St. Louie. They had better win the NL Central.

It will be a great pickup for the Cards if they can extend him.

He'll make them the class of the NL Central.

Does Wallace come right up top the A's?

i cant believe the cardinals would trade holliday, especially to a team in the same division....


hopefully someone gets this

If they don't re-sign him this is the rape of the century.

Two other players.

YES YES YES YES GET THIS DONE BILLY

"Does Wallace come right up top the A's?"

Considering how Billy has handled positional players this year, no. He probably starts in SacTown

Hopefully big Albert will make the most of this.

I want to see a Triple Crown with his name on it

I cant believe the Cardinals are going to trade Holliday when he is not even on the team.

"i cant believe the cardinals would trade holliday, especially to a team in the same division...."

I thought Holliday was on the A's, lol. Guess the Cards traded for him over night and are now planning on flippin him to themselves for propects. Bold Strategy...We'll see if this pays off...lol

23E: I don't think this is a matter of Albert making the most of it. If I'm the Cards, while moving Albert from the #3 spot to #4 may take away a few ABs this year, I'd much rather hit him BEHIND Holliday. This will give Holliday MORE pitches (and BETTER pitches) to hit! You WILL NOT pitch around Holliday to get to Albert...no way, no how.

The Springfield Cardinals! Wait, what?

"If they don't re-sign him this is the rape of the century."

Actually BravesFan...The rape of the century was when Texas RAPED Atlanta in the Teixiera deal

BANG BANG BOOM!!

it's nice to see the cards trade holliday to the cardinals, they should not give themself brett wallace though.

"If they don't re-sign him this is the rape of the century."

Boras client. Good luck signing him before he declares for FA after the season and doubt he will accept arbitration either. Only way he stays in St.Louis is for the highest $$$ offered. Only Boras client can ever remember insisting on a hometown discount is Varitek.

This just in: Phillies acquire Roy Halladay from the Phillies for Kyle Drabek, JA Happ, Michael Taylor, and a PTBNL.

Great move for the A's if they can get this done. Just getting multiple years of Brett Wallace will do but any other players they get is icing on the cake.

Not sure what I think from the Cardinals perspective. Holliday is a second half hitter, and while his stat line so far is unimpressive, I expect him to take off batting next to Pujols and lead them deep into the playoffs. The problem is if he ends up having a monster second half, he'll explore free agency and get much bigger offers than if he stayed in Oakland all season, and the Cards might not be able to re-sign him. An awfully big gamble for a few months of Holliday. Someone like Willingham would be cheaper but might not be the big impact guy they want.

"If they don't re-sign him this is the rape of the century."

Actually BravesFan...The rape of the century was when Texas RAPED Atlanta in the Teixiera deal

BANG BANG BOOM!!

^^ your so correct sir,

Who is Shane Peterson? Does he mean Shane Robinson?

FINALLY, SOMETHING IS HAPPENING! Oh, by the way, I want this deal to happen ASAP because the Yankees are facing the A's right now and this would be 1 less bat to worry about B)

am i reading this correctly that the A's will receive a total of 5 players from the cardinals? or 3?

I still believe Wallace is too much, but since he is blocked at 1st I guess you gotta do something. I pray they have an extension deal in place though, because that's a big haul for 2 months.

Nevermind

IMO, Wallace is a lot to give up for a 2 month rental of Holliday.

This is how Beane is able to restock the A's farm system and keep them regular contenders.

This is a great deal for the A's. Peterson is a 21 year old outfielder in double A, Mortensen a 24 year old triple A pitcher and Brett Wallace is absolutely sick.

"This just in: Phillies acquire Roy Halladay from the Phillies for Kyle Drabek, JA Happ, Michael Taylor, and a PTBNL."

Why would you do this

Why would anyone prank like that

You cruel person!

If the Cards don't offer Holliday an extension this would be a bad trade....i.e...
too much money and a premier prospect for a two month rental.

If Beane really got this much for Holliday, knowing that the Cards will still have a challenge keeping him, then this is just another great deal by Beane.

no one wants to answer my question

:(

That sure seems a heavy price for a summer rental but I suppose if they win the WS it's worth it.

I wonder if this makes Ludwick available.

it if happens, can't wait to see how the Cubbies and Beermakers respond. Certainly gaps in all 3 of these squads.

I don't get why the Cards would deal Wallace, especially for Holliday. Don't they have OF's out the wazzoo? Granted they're not on Holliday's level (even his current lower one) but still...Ludwick, Rasmus, Ankiel is solid.

awesome, I hope they find a way of getting Roy Halladay too.. then the holidays would really come early for St. Louis (no pun inteneded lol)

EWS1532

The A's would receive 3 players.

If the deal goes through, wait to see how long something comes together for Halladay. There will be a domino effect here.

I think this is a horrible trade for the Cardinals. Brett Wallace is a monster and I believe may be too much to give up by himself. Then they also throw in their 2007 first round pick and 2008 second round pick?

They better win the World Series or resign him, otherwise they could be feeling like the Brewers after losing both Sabathia and Laporta.

this is a really stupid deal if holliday doesn't resign

awesome, I hope they find a way of getting Roy Halladay too.. then the holidays would really come early for St. Louis (no pun inteneded lol)
--------------------------

LOL, now you're dreaming!

I think the Cards pitching is in pretty good shape for the playoffs:

Carpenter, Wainwright, Lohse, Pineiro

Stupid trade. Simple fact is that Holliday's name value outweigh's his actual value.

This is the problem with baseball fans today. Most of them follow the headline news and just repeat what they hear on ESPN and take it as their own ideas.

Well here's the deal. Trading Brett Wallace is a terrible idea. Especially when you can get a guy like Willingham instead. And don't even try to throw Willingham aside as a scrub. Go look at his numbers. The guy hits for power, and is versatiles, something Tony likes. He can play LF, RF, catch, or play first and give Albert a rest.

Holliday's name would created hype that I'm not sure would ever be met by his play. He is a good player, but overrated, plain and simple.

The fact is, he careered it one year in Coors and everyone jumped on the bandwagon, and now his NAME is a household name so everyone gets excited.

Do yourself a favor do a little research on the situation. Look at who the Cards would have to give up for both Holliday and Willingham, and it's obvious who the better fit is.

Willingham. Case closed.

"They better win the World Series or resign him, otherwise they could be feeling like the Brewers after losing both Sabathia and Laporta."
Exactly. Since he is one of Boras' top clients I highly doubt he will sign an extension or resign with StL. Also I doubt the Cards want two huge contracts taking up their entire payroll.
This reminds me of the 1998 Astros who traded Freddy Garcia and Carlos Guillen for Randy Johnson and they of course didn't make it out of the first round.

This would be a big win for Billy Beane.

This is a ball player whose numbers were increased due to where he played the majority of his career.

TBH, I wouldnt trade Brett Wallace for Holliday straight up.

But I would include Wallace for a deal to get Adam Dunn.

If the goal is to protect Albert in the lineup, why not bring the best OPS to St. Louis, not to mention a guy that will continue to hit home runs even if the Cardinals new stadium was the size of Rhode Island.

But as a pirates fan...YEAH make this deal Cards!! Send them Rasmus too! lol Anything to further depleat your farm system!

Not trying to pick on you xquilles, but the phrase "no pun intended" is silly. So many reasons. 1) The author nearly always intends for there to be a pun. 2) It's basically saying "The readers aren't smart enough to catch this, so I'll point it out.". 3) It takes away from what you write by using a cliche. Etc...

Just as long as this deal doesn't go through until Sunday night. The Cards are in Philly this weekend, and Holliday rakes in Citizens Bank Park.

A's are in New York. He could be playing for the Cardinals by tonight if this is done soon.

I sure do love it when teams go after a rental player. 85 percent of the time, it blows up in their faces.

The Tex trade wasn't that bad...we got a yr of Tex, 6 months of a solid loogy, a sandwich pick (Kimbrel), Kotchman, and a reliever spec for a stud SS, a guy that might not be a starter (Feliz), Beau Jones (nothing),Harrison (bust), and Salty (.706 Career MLB OPS). Even if Feliz and Andrus become stars it's not rape.

Wow St. Louis is overpaying...

I wouldn't trade Wallace straight up for Holliday, nevermind including 2 more players in the deal.

Oakland HAS to be paying the rest of his salary.

Either that, or Darren McFadden is also included and going to the Rams.

@PWHjort really? critiquing a blog post and the use of "pun"? you're an infant

if you mean blowing up like Sabathia did as a rental then yes that is in their face.. but the fact of the matter is, The Cards are getting are very solid player who can and will protect Pujols in that lineup.. Holliday was in a pitcher friendly park with a very bad lineup... i wouldn't be surprised if Holliday starts raking.

Mo got hosed.

BTW, Ankiel sucks. He's injured and hits like a pitcher.

somewhere melonis rex must be doing his happy dance. I hear it's something in between the "cabbage patch" and the "funky chicken" w/ a Bay Area "hyphy" twist to it.

Melonis:

If this deal goes down YOU MUST DO A SPECIAL DANCE and post it up on youtube. That would be EPIC!!!

Maybe cards realize Wallace will never be a MLB 3b and they have nothing to do with him, w/ Pujols there. A's can give hima shot at 3b, and have 1b and DH to fall back on. I like willingham's bat but he's awful in OF and hasnt caught a game in the majors in 3 years and has like 5 starts at C total in his career, Holliday really only had an awful April, on a bad bad, truly awful offensive team in a pitcher's park w/ football field size foul territory. Yes cards are giving up a lot, in Wallace but I have a feeling Holliday will not disappoint and there is a chance he accepts Arb. and cards get him for another yr

I forgot Melonis Rex was a Cardinal lol. and what YanksFan78 said, I second that notion! lol EPIC =]

Wonder if Jays could have packaged Halladay AND Rios.. That's alot of $$ though!

Also there is a reason Dunn and Willingham play for teams like the Nats and Marlins and Reds, they dont play for winners b/c teams w/ a clue dont pay millions and millions of dollars to have DH's butchering plays in the OF on a daily basis, defense counts in real baseball.

Tvators, wishful thinking, but

Scott Boras Client + Arbitration = NOT Gonna Happen

Sorry.

Based on the overpayment, I would venture to guess that the A's are paying at least part of the freight for Holliday.

It will be interesting to see if Holliday can do any better at Busch. Even with his better hitting of late, he is still nowhere near the hitter he was in Coors.

No actually he's an A's fan and my guess is he would love to get Wallace in return for Holliday. Beane was looking hard pressed to get back equal value to what he gave up to get Holliday.

mRyAnkEe1231-
The reason this will blow up in their face is because they're trading six years of a future star for a half year for a guy who was a star in Coors. But, as you said, getting out of Oakland will definitely help.

I'm critiquing the use of the phrase in general. Like I said, not trying to pick on the guy or his post. Way to start with the name-calling, though. Clearly you're the mature one and I'm the infant.

Holliday was in a pitcher friendly park with a very bad lineup... i wouldn't be surprised if Holliday starts raking.

Posted by: mRyAnkEe1231 | July 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Actually, you are wrong:

Home/Away splits this year:

Home: .286/.383/.494/.877
Away: .287/.373/.416/.788

His numbers are right in line with his career averages away from Coors

This is a classic overpay and St. Louis is getting fleeced.

braves fan,

yes it was rape, ben roth style.

signed,

rangers fans

retract that last statement...more like kobe style

Trade is now offical

On Sportcenter, they said the deal is official.

Send a pitcher back to us too Billy!

I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again

This is a big bummer for the Cards.

i cant believe the cards make a blockbuster trade

YanksFanSince78-

Bwahahahahaha. LMAO I can't dance.

Cabbage patch? Funky chicken? Bay Area hyphy? Interesting, lol. I probably moved out of the Bay Area before the hyphy trend set in. If such a happy dance existed, it would involve a Beastie Boys song. That's all I can say.

This is an epic win.

Everybody talks about the "raping" Atlanta took over the Tex deal, which is true, but when it was made it didn't look that bad because the players were so far off. It amazes me that other GMs don't seem to have the intelligence to notice they can get better deals if they're willing to wait for the talent to develop and more importantly trust their scouting, remember Neftali Feliz was virtually a throw-in for that deal.

By the way if Stl makes this deal they've lost their minds. They already overspent on the DeRosa rental, and they need a lefty not another righty. Rasmus is the only lefty threat they have, and thats a lot of pressure to put on the rookie. (Sorry Ankiel your hitting seems to have gone the way of your pitching, and Skip ain't exactly striking fear in anyones hearts.)

PS: To Melonis and all other A's fans.

Your guy Mazzaro looks like a really good pitching prospect. Despite a record of 2-7 w/ a 4.75 ERA it must be nice to know (and I'm sure he appreciates it) that a 22 year old pitcher can go out, get bombed, lear from his mistakes and know that he'll get the ball again in another 5 days. I wish other pitchers his age (cough Joba, Hughes, Buccholz) could get the same slack.

I've been really impressed with some of the young pitching I've seen in Oakland and Baltimore of late. Some of them got rocked but the talent was obvious to see. You can't learn to pitch to mlb hitters in AAA and you are going to take some lumps along the way. Good future though.

Great move by the Cards, they finally have a solid bat to hit behind Pujols, and now they can make an easier run at another divison title.

As a Phillies fan, I'm happy about this, ebcause it pretty much takes the Cardinals out of the Halladay sweepstakes.

Market has been set...

Doc should net

Knapp
Drabek
Taylor or Browne
Donald
Carasco

Have to give props to the Cards for dropping the hammer on the move... I love it when teams decide to go for it...

The Tex deal did look pretty bad then, granted, not as bad as it does now.

This is Pierzynski for Liriano, Nathan, and Bonser bad...

Cortez,

If anything I think this would lower the price for Doc since there is now one less team involved.

@SI52

I would be happier if the Cards got him after the 3 game series with the Phils

I think bean has to be happy with any deal centered around an "elite" offensive player and two others. Clearly a better return than an "iffy" draft pick comp situation.

"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again."

That's exactly what I thought when I heard about the trade.

@Blinkinfoo

Going back to what UtleyFan said, the sooner this deal went down, the better, since it lowers the price for Halladay with one more team out of the sweepstakes. Besides, I think the Phillies can put up with Holliday for three games.

Worst case scenario here for the cards.

They have a big bat to add to the lineup in Holliday. They get a legit shot to win this year. They offer arbitration he leaves and they get 2 picks for him as a type-A. Not bad for a guy they dont think can play the field for them one lick. Obviously Wallace is too fat to play anywhere other than first and the cards are set there for a while.

Wallace is going to be amazing but this gives the Cards an amazing line up now. I think this move will pretty much put an end to the race in the NL Central

"Scott Boras Client + Arbitration = NOT Gonna Happen
Sorry."

After last year if Cards offer it, Holliday/Boras might take the 1 yr. - 15/16 million rather than a deflated longer term deal.

"They better win the World Series or resign him, otherwise they could be feeling like the Brewers after losing both Sabathia and Laporta."

See the difference is the Brewers had/have Gamel and other projected studs comming up behind LaPorta, they were log jammed, thus loosing him has not and will not be a large impact...and even with the 20milish per year that the Brewers offered CC, as it shows this year he had a hell of a run...but he's not pitching like 20mil should....besides the fact that the Brewers refilled the spot with a waiver pick-up in McGehee...who is actually in the big leagues and has out performed LaPorta with more versatility...

I just hope the Crew responds to this trade with something soon and doesn't give up big prospects for something that will "bring them back to contention"...but rather put them as the favorites....otherwise what's the point??? And honestly one big name ace pitcher is not going to be the key by himeself...

Sometimes prospects are OVER HYPED . so you never know what will become of this trade. Time will tell.

YFS78-

Thanks. And I agree. I'm really glad that Billy's giving the young arms a chance. Even though I think that Cahill has proven that he does not belong in MLB right now (he's walking about as many as he's striking out).

And Mazarro cruised through several good innings before the lineup caught up to him. The Yanks lineup is hard for any pitcher, let alone a rookie, to tackle.

Joba v. Anderson (the A's best young arm) tonight will be an exciting matchup.

I understand what your saying Tvators but Holliday would probably the most sought after OF/FA along with Bay. I just can't see him accepting Arb.

Carini26:

Don't dive too much into numbers, Sabathia had pedestrian numbers, then went Superhuman when he was traded.

I don't know if/when Troy Glaus will come back but if the Cards can go into the playoffs with Pujols/Holliday/Ludwick/Glaus/Ankeil then they have a really good lineup.

I also give props to the Cards GM for acquiring DeRosa and Lugo as well becuase say what you will about him as a player he is a good hitting SS.

Pujols
Holliday
Ludwick
Schumaker
Rasmus/Ankeil
DeRosa
Molina
Lugo

Not an automatic out in the bunch and if they make it to the WS they have a legit DH to play in Ankeil.

Sometimes prospects are OVER HYPED . so you never know what will become of this trade. Time will tell.

Posted by: Mike | July 24, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Not as overhyped as Matt Holliday

Ankeil or Glaus..

Cards now have the same problem the Cubs did last year- too many right handed hitters, not enough lefties. If they run into a team in the postseason with three solid RHPs like the 2008 Cubs did with the 2008 Dodgers it could be trouble.

i like this trade for both teams. cards solidify their lineup and drastically increase their chances to win the division and the A's get a legit A prospect (whom they will probably trade for more prospects in about 4 years)

Brett Wallace, Shane Peterson and Clayton Morteson is the package.

Holliday has actually been pretty good on the road the previous 2 years. He's become a good base runner and above avg defender. There is no raping involved here.

YanksFanSince78:

Yes, Mazzaro has some killer stuff, as evidenced in the first 3 innings last night.

I agree with the fact that he has the long leash to go out there without too much pressure and take his lumps.

That Tex homer pretty much ruined his night but he looked amazing before that.

@mRyAnkEe1231

Ya but Sabbathia also went from the AL to the NL...big difference for pitchers in that switch than from a hitter switching teams/leagues

Yay! Rosterbation time!

1. Schumaker 2B
2. DeRosa 3B
3. Pujols 1B
4. Holliday LF
5. Ludwick RF
6. Rasmus CF
7. Molina C
8. P
9. Ryan/Lugo

Darn good looking lineup.

Lol Ankiel... you're kidding right?

As a Cub fan I really hope he continues to hit in line with his non-Coors Field career numbers and this move bites the Cardinals in the ass.

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