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Edes' Latest: Giants, Teahen, Relievers

By Mike Axisa [July 4, 2009 at 10:02am CST]

Currently standing atop the National League wildcard standings, the Giants are looking for a lefthanded bat to add to their lineup according to Gordon Edes of Yahoo Sports. He cites a major league executive who says that San Francisco has focused their efforts on three first baseman: Nick Johnson, Aubrey Huff and Adam LaRoche. Edes also says that the Giants have spoken to the Padres about a potential Jonathan Sanchez-Scott Hairston swap.

Let's round up the rest of Edes' rumors...

Royals GM Dayton Moore has heard from multiple teams about Mark Teahen, including the Red Sox, Cubs, Angels and Giants.
The Braves "might be inclined to take a look at" Jose Guillen. The Royals would love to discuss Yunel Escobar.
We've heard this before, but if Boston moves a reliever, it will most likely be Takashi Saito.
Padres' closer Heath Bell may command the most attention amongst relievers.
The Astros are likely to hold on to LaTroy Hawkins and Jose Valverde, barring a collapse before the trade deadline.
The Blue Jays would love to move BJ Ryan, but are more likely to see interest in Jason Frasor and Scott Downs.
Bronson Arroyo is back on the trade block.

Comments

I still think that the Cubs need an impact hitter (second base). Dan Uggla maybe.

Posted by: Tanner | July 04, 2009 at 10:06 AM

TeaHEN, Mark TeaHEN.

Posted by: Delicious Sandwiches | July 04, 2009 at 10:09 AM

I knew that, got it right in the title. Thanks for pointing that out.

Posted by: Mike Axisa | July 04, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Escobar for Guillen????

are you high?

Posted by: kidlax17 | July 04, 2009 at 10:27 AM

yea. Escobar for Guillen is a horrible trade. royals will win instantly if they get Escobar.

If the Nationals trade Johnson to the Giants, they better get and MLB ready pitcher or infield prospect, or one of both

Posted by: phoenix88 | July 04, 2009 at 10:29 AM

"I still think that the Cubs need an impact hitter (second base). Dan Uggla maybe."

Why would the Fish trade Uggla when they have as good of a chance of making the playoffs as the Cubs? Not to mention, the only upgrade the Fish need in the wide open NL East is BP help and that is the LAST then the Cubs could help with.

Posted by: johns | July 04, 2009 at 10:32 AM

haha Guillen for Esco...i think thats what ur implying in that case if the Roylas don't want him...why would the Braves, not to mention for Escobar?? He better come with the rest of the team too...even then I wouldn't be satisfied...

Posted by: Bravesfan13 | July 04, 2009 at 10:35 AM

"and that is the LAST then the Cubs could help with"

Cubs pen has actually been pretty good the past month or two and thats without our best reliever this year, Guzman. Guzman will be back early next week, Gregg has actually been really good the last 2 months with an ERA under 3. Marshall has really done well in the lefty role. Hielman has even been pitching well. And Marmol is starting to find the stike zone. So while the cubs may not have the best bullpen in the league they arent quite as bad as you make it seem.

Posted by: chicubs25 | July 04, 2009 at 10:36 AM

haha if escobar is headed out to kansas, then greinke better be the player coming back.. then maybe we could trade lowe cause i would not like to see vazquez gone

Posted by: lilray4000 | July 04, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Lawd have mercy, can the Braves just stand pat? Does Frank Wren realize they're on a 5 game winning streak? Why are they so anxious to get rid of their biggest run producer? And who's gonna take his place? Diory Hernandez? And Guillen in return? No thank you, sir. Good grief...

Posted by: scottandwtb | July 04, 2009 at 10:45 AM

chicubs,

I was referring mainly to Marmol and his hit and miss with the strike zone problems and kevin Gregg and his "fetish" with always throwing outside like he does, though he did look very good vs. Milwaukee yesterday in doing it picking up the win.

Cubs have no help that they could give the Fish with regards to the BP anyway for Uggla and Uggla is a vital part of the Fish lineup, even with his .Avg low, his hits have been at opportune times.

After this season however, regardless of how well the Fish do, they will cut salary as always and could certainly see Uggla being moved, maybe even earlier if they all of a sudden crash and burn which doubt with the rest of the NL East playing so poorly.

Posted by: johns | July 04, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Anyone talking about trading Guillen for Escobar shows a total lack of knowledge. Media types tend to bring these things up because they are too lazy to come up with legit stories and just push rumors.

Posted by: braves99 | July 04, 2009 at 10:51 AM

The Braves can't win the division by standing pat and letting Failcoeur ruin our lineup. We need a bat in a big way, but Guillen is not that.

If we trade Escobar, a guy who is cheap, an above average defender (despite the stats), can hit for decent power, and one of the most clutch players in the game, we're going to want a handsome return.

Posted by: HTF | July 04, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Jesus people read the article. The Guillen and Escobar mentions aren't related. The braves MIGHT be inclined to take a look at Guillen. The Royals would LOVE to discuss Escobar. He's not saying that the Braves and Royals might match up on an Escobar for Guillen swap. Just that the Guillen might be someone the Braves look at for their hole in RF and that the Royals would love to find a way to get Escobar (as I'm sure quite a few teams would). Seriously, you're making Braves fans look bad.

The far more interesting note that wasn't mentioned here is that the Braves may consider moving Escobar to the OF. Given his great arm, I would assume that means a move to RF to replace Francoeur. If we could find someone decent to take over at SS that wouldn't be the worst idea. Cox could stop complaining about Escobar's mental mistakes at SS, the Braves would keep Escobar, and they'd get Francoeur out of the lineup.

Posted by: nixa37 | July 04, 2009 at 10:55 AM

"The Astros are likely to hold on to LaTroy Hawkins and Jose Valverde, barring a collapse before the trade deadline."

Not at all surprised considering it's the Astros, but WHY?????

Posted by: PWHjort | July 04, 2009 at 10:57 AM

"If we trade Escobar, a guy who is cheap, an above average defender (despite the stats), can hit for decent power, and one of the most clutch players in the game, we're going to want a handsome return."

Not trying to knock the Braves or fans here or anything, but maybe his "head" problems have became a little to well known and seriously derailed his trade value, kind of fast tracked what Delmon Young had happen to him over a couple of year period and Lastings Milledge as well?

Posted by: johns | July 04, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Oh yeah, in the article Edes says: "There is some speculation that the Braves might consider moving Escobar to the outfield.". That's the last thing I ever read from him.

Posted by: PWHjort | July 04, 2009 at 10:58 AM

"haha if escobar is headed out to kansas, then greinke better be the player coming back.. then maybe we could trade lowe cause i would not like to see vazquez gone"

The Royals play in Missouri, geography champ. Braves fans have such an inflated and unrealistic value for their players.

Posted by: revive85 | July 04, 2009 at 10:58 AM

johns,

Delmon Young and Lastings Milledge were never nearly as good in the majors as Escobar has been. Hell, the Rays got a huge return for Young from the Twins even when his problems were known and he wasn't producing that well.

PWHjort,

I don't think its the craziest speculation in the world. Bobby would probably worry less about Escobar's head in the OF, Escobar could move back to SS next year once he fully recovers from his injuries, and we could probably find a SS that hits better than Francoeur (who I assume Yunel would replace).

Posted by: nixa37 | July 04, 2009 at 11:10 AM

"Delmon Young and Lastings Milledge were never nearly as good in the majors as Escobar has been"

Runner up rookie of the year and Young was pretty nifty here in Tampa in 2007 nix37, watched him enough. His problem was failing to run out groundballs and with Jon Madden.

Posted by: johns | July 04, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Couldn't Teahen help the cubs at 2b? Fontenot is not an everyday player, and really he shouldn't have a spot on the cubs roster over Fox. The cubs have Blanco who can play 2b/SS, Hoffpauir can play 1b, LF, RF, and Fox can play 3B. There that’s your bench. Go get Teahen, we have plenty of relief prospects they should interest the Royals, or even Fontenot.

Posted by: chicubs25 | July 04, 2009 at 11:28 AM

"and we could probably find a SS that hits better than Francoeur (who I assume Yunel would replace)."

Thats actually really good logic. When you put Yunel in the OF you dont have to now find a SS better than Yunel, you just need to find a SS who can put up the same numbers as an awful RF. Almost any SS who can get onbase at a decent clip is an upgrade. I still think its easier to find a RF out there who can hit 20 HR instead of moving Yunel. Would they be interested in Hoffpauir? I'm suprised we havent heard more from AL teams about Fox also.

Posted by: chicubs25 | July 04, 2009 at 11:31 AM

"Not at all surprised considering it's the Astros, but WHY?????"

As you said, because it's the Astros. It doesn't have to make sense.

"Just that the Guillen might be someone the Braves look at for their hole in RF and that the Royals would love to find a way to get Escobar (as I'm sure quite a few teams would)."

Would a Jose Guillen, Alberto Callaspo, Mark Teahen and Danny Duffy along with some cash for Escobar and Jeff Francoeur deal work?

The Royals get to try out Francoeur along with landing a good long term shortstop in Escobar.

The Braves get another second baseman with some pop in Callaspo, two potentially solid bats in Teahen and Guillen, and a good pitching prospect in Danny Duffy.

Is it too much to Atlanta? The Braves would still need to figure out their shortstop situation going forward, I'm really not sure if Martin Prado and Omar Infante can man that spot.

Posted by: scribbletone | July 04, 2009 at 11:31 AM

No one will want Arroyo. Too much money for a 5 ERA. I honestly havee no problem with him. He goes 4-5 good starts in a row, and follows up with a horrific performance. thats why his ERA is so high. But he Ks some people and pitches innigs. No one will want him unless its for another bad contract..dont know how that cud match up.

My guess is Arroyo will go on the DL when Volquez comes back

Posted by: GmblngPtchr20 | July 04, 2009 at 11:33 AM

"I don't think its the craziest speculation in the world. Bobby would probably worry less about Escobar's head in the OF, Escobar could move back to SS next year once he fully recovers from his injuries, and we could probably find a SS that hits better than Francoeur (who I assume Yunel would replace)."

Yeah, I don't think it's absolutely ludicrous. The mental defensive errors have been evident in his defensive metrics, and a move to the outfield could help him relax in the field as well as prevent the Braves from making too aggressive of a move. And Yunel has a rocket for an arm so right field could actually be a good spot for him.

Posted by: scribbletone | July 04, 2009 at 11:33 AM

"Delmon Young and Lastings Milledge were never nearly as good in the majors as Escobar has been"

Runner up rookie of the year and Young was pretty nifty here in Tampa in 2007 nix37, watched him enough. His problem was failing to run out groundballs and with Jon Madden.

Posted by: johns | July 04, 2009 at 11:25 AM
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Are you seriously going to try and use ROY award voting to make your case? Young had an OPS+ of just 91 in 2007, 12 points below Escobar's career low OPS+. Did I mention that Young is bad defensively at a corner OF position and that Escobar is at least average defensively at SS?

Young's problem wasn't not running out ground balls, its the fact that he has always struggled against advanced pitching. He's never hit for power above the AA level, he doesn't walk much, and he strikes out a lot. The Rays were just smart enough to move him before his value would start to plummet as he got exposed more and more.

Posted by: nixa37 | July 04, 2009 at 11:39 AM

i dont know about everyone else but i want to keep escabor and medlin they have potential keep them trad frenchy/kj/vacquez i like vacquez for hart/prospect(s)

Posted by: bravesac | July 04, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Young's problem was attitude nixa37, that is why Tampa traded him. Garces was an unknown when they got him, as was Bartlett.

You fail to run out ground balls, have arguments in the clubhouse (on camera) with the manager and you get ran out of town eventually and in the case of Young, it didn't take very long. Sure Young has weaknesses, Jason Bay has weakness with off speed pitches, but he can hit a #1 good also and I don't see anyone here knocking on him?

I never said that Young was better than Escobar either, you started ranting and raving regarding when I brought up the head case comparison and when I brought up that Young was a ROY runner up to Pedroia in 2007. So what? Now I know, Looked and Escobar finished 6th. Guess you didn't like that for some reason? Cheated that Young finished higher? Get over it.

Posted by: johns | July 04, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Would a Jose Guillen, Alberto Callaspo, Mark Teahen and Danny Duffy along with some cash for Escobar and Jeff Francoeur deal work?

______________________________

Another delusional Braves fan.

Posted by: BrettGT | July 04, 2009 at 11:57 AM

"
Another delusional Braves fan."

I'm actually a Cub fan.

Guillen sucks and is vastly overpaid, Callaspo and Teahen have very limited upside, and Duffy is a good but not great prospect.

Escobar is one of the better shortstops in all of baseball, and the Royals have constantly been mentioned as a team that would take a flier on Francoeur.

Maybe Duffy is too much, but the Braves would need to offered an absolute haul to deal away Escobar with 3.5 years of control left.

"Garces was an unknown when they got him, as was Bartlett."

GarZA, was actually ranked in the top 15 in Baseball America's Top 100 the year before he was dealt, so he was regarded as a stud prospect, and Bartlett was brilliant defensively in Minnesota, he was worth 5.8 WAR his last two years there. You're wayyy off base on that one.

Posted by: scribbletone | July 04, 2009 at 12:07 PM

No, I was just pointing out why Delmon Young and Lastings Milledge have seen their respective values drop far more than Young has. The Rays are a smart organization, saw the holes in his game, and moved him for a strong package before his value started to drop. I'm sure attitude played some role in their decision making, but no where near as much as you are making it out to be.

Are you seriously comparing Jason Bay to Delmon Young? I don't even know where that came from. Delmon Young has far larger holes in his game than Bay does.

And when was I ranting and raving. My response to your head case comparison was simply:

johns,

You went on to try and argue that Young was better than Escobar based off ROY voting, which is essentially meaningless. Young wasn't all that good as a rookie and finished that high largely because of a weak rookie class and the name recognition that comes with being a top prospect. And Garza was a known commodity, as was Bartlett, when the trade was made. Bartlett was already known as a great glove, though his bat has taken a step forward. Garza was coming off a 3.69 ERA in 15 starts in 2007. Many people (myself included) thought it was a bad deal from the get go.

Posted by: nixa37 | July 04, 2009 at 12:10 PM

That second Young in my first sentence should clearly be Yunel...my bad

Posted by: nixa37 | July 04, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Actually, Escobar still has 4.5 years of team control left. I was never positive if it was 3.5 or 4.5 until recently, but David O'Brien, the Braves beat writer, mentioned in his blog that Escobar won't be arbitration eligible until after the 2010 season in his blog the other day.

Posted by: nixa37 | July 04, 2009 at 12:13 PM

"I never said that Young was better than Escobar either, you started ranting and raving regarding when I brought up the head case comparison"

But why in the world would you bring up the headcase thing? That is the bigger issue here! It is not like he is taking off his jersey and throwing bottles into the stands. It is not like he in fist fights with his teammates. He just doesnt get along with the cliquish side of the Braves clubhouse, or the old-old-old-school manager they have in place. He is semi-hurting and the alienation is affecting him a tiny, tiny bit to the point he rightfully argued a bad call (but not to the 3 game suspension level we see with others) and has had a mental lapse or two. That reads headcase??? No, tat reads almost every single person in America who is in a bad situation. You are kind of showing you might have bigger mental problems with the constant harping on these supposed mental issues of players.

Posted by: SuzysMan | July 04, 2009 at 12:15 PM

What could the Pirates get from the Giants for LaRoche? Sanchez?

Posted by: BucSox | July 04, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Man I wish the Pirates would have waited until now to trade McLouth to the Braves I wouldhave loved to work out a deal for Escobar.

Posted by: BucSox | July 04, 2009 at 12:21 PM

I think the Royals could get Esco for Guillen if they eat $30 million of the remaining $18 million on his contract and throw in Eric Hosmer.

On the other hand...anyone interested in Mark Teahen is welcome to sit down and have a beer. In fact, bring a bag of balls and a fungo bat and we may be able to close the deal.

Teahen is an awesome guy. Friendly as hell and funny. He was joking with a reporter and said it was only a matter of time before he was the next .400 hitter...and that he was only 55 games away from breaking DiMaggio's record.

But he's not an everyday player and that's what we're forced to use him as.

Posted by: Otis26 | July 04, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Nixa37,

The Rays and Madden finally started moving out Young and Elijah Dukes when Madden took over, he really does not like players that do not hustle all the time and has even sat down Upton for multiple games last year when he has lacked hustle during games.

As for Young having less talent than Escobar, that is a given, I was mostly pointing out the mental/physical lapses that both of those gentleman seem prone to.

Posted by: johns | July 04, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Why would the Giants be looking for another Left handed bat? The entire OF, save Rowand, is basically left handed. The home park is tough on left handed power. Adding a LHB just doesn’t make a lot of sense. Granted if all the Giants front office is focused on is 1st base you don’t have a lot of non lefty choices of course it is not like 2nd base is hitting 224/280/276 with a -5.1 UZR/150 or something. Oh wait they are.

Bucsox: I would say Sanchez has more appeal than LaRoche at this point. Sanchez plays a position of bigger need and team is controlled longer. The Giants front office has been very vocal about being willing to pay money instead of prospects. And not being very interested in a rental player. I doubt that Bumgraner, Alderson or Crawford would be any were near the table if that is what you’re thinking. Of course we are talking about Sabean so who know just that he thinks is a good idea at the time.

Posted by: daveinexile | July 04, 2009 at 12:44 PM

how about adam kennedy for sanchez. If the giants want giambi they could also take him in the deal.

Posted by: thegoods24 | July 04, 2009 at 12:47 PM

daveinexile is correct: it makes little sense for the Giants to be going after a lefthanded power bat for Phone Booth park, and it makes even less sense to trade away young controllable players to do it. They need help on the right side of the infield and at one corner OF slot, but those bats need to be righthanded sluggers who can jack shots down the LF line.

Sabean is cleverly letting Sanchez slowly rebuild some value out of the bullpen over the course of the remainder of this season, but to toss him and another young arm away now for a lefthanded bat is silly.

Posted by: Steve Soto | July 04, 2009 at 02:04 PM

1.) Sanchez has pitched perfectly fine out of the bullpen...if we don't get anything near his value we aren't trading him. So the joking adam kennedy for sanchez of scott hairston for sanchez LMAO rumors can be put to sleep

2.) Funny, Brian Sabean himself said the giants are looking for a right handed bat....and Travis Ishikawa has done perfectly fine in the past month with the bat and his glove has been there all year. We don't need a 1b, we need a 2b.

Posted by: lincecum4cy | July 04, 2009 at 02:15 PM

Wow I would have never thought the Giants would try to acquire Scott Hairston. If I remember correctly last year there was some hostile feelings between Him and the Giants.

I mean he's a good ballplayer and all .. But I wouldn't think Sabean would even go down that road

Posted by: urok89 | July 04, 2009 at 02:17 PM

johns sorry but you have no idea what you are talking about. Yunel Escobar is on a whole other level compared to those two (young and milledge). Garza not garces was not an unknown and was one of the twins top pitching prospects. Yunel finished 6th in ROY because he was a part time player and not well known outside of ATL. ROY is the most arbitrary basis of a player and has no true indication of the player's value. i guess Soto (C for Cubs) is better than Jurrjens(Pitcher, Braves) because he won ROY over him?

Posted by: bravesfan22193 | July 04, 2009 at 02:27 PM

also why do other teams fans think Escobar is pyscho? He just doesn't mesh with Bobby Cox's style that doesn't mean he's a menace to society. Media is making way too big a deal out of this

Posted by: bravesfan22193 | July 04, 2009 at 02:29 PM

No no none of those guys but the Giants do have a deep farm system so I would think they would be a good match to trade for Adam and/or Freddy.

Posted by: BucSox | July 04, 2009 at 02:35 PM

Possibly a 3 way deal Braves Twins Pirates?

Braves get: Cuddeyer Jack Wilson (with Pittsburgh eating majority of salary) and a mid level prospect from the Twins or Pirates

Twins get: Freddy Sanchez, John Grabow

Pirates get: Yunel Escobar and a mid level prospect.

Thoughts?

Posted by: BucSox | July 04, 2009 at 02:38 PM

Braves get raped in that proposal.

Posted by: bravesfan22193 | July 04, 2009 at 02:45 PM

Yeah I thought Cuddeyer was younger than he is my bad maybe if you remove a prospect going to the Braves you could make it Span instead of Cuddyer would that be better?

Posted by: BucSox | July 04, 2009 at 02:48 PM

The Giants need a couple more bats . If they still are in reaching distance of the playoffs on the trade deadline they would be stupid not do move anybody . I would try to get Teahen and get rid of ishikawa . Or Nick Johnson and try to get an under rated player that nobody is bidding for like Vernon Wells and Paul Konerko.

Posted by: frank bob | July 04, 2009 at 03:52 PM

braves22193, read the entire bunch of posts before you pick out a sentence and type anything about it..

Posted by: johns | July 04, 2009 at 04:23 PM

Trust me I did and it was pretty brutal, usually you're pretty right on, but basing a player off his finish in ROY voting and comparing Delmon Young to Escobar are way off base here

Posted by: bravesfan22193 | July 04, 2009 at 04:30 PM

I was not judging Escobar and Young on ROY, nobody is going to compare Young as having the talent of Escobar. I did post that Young was 2nd in ROY voting and how that can be construed as being better is beyond me, though another did as well..

My main point in all of the posting back and forth was that Young (mainly) and Escobar (looks like heading that way) have issues with authority and going full force on the field. Going back over the last several months with what I have posted regarding Young will back that up.

Posted by: johns | July 04, 2009 at 05:05 PM

I know the Giants need a bat an ive been saying here many times who i think they should get but in the last 7 games we have played weve had games where we scored 7 runs, 10 runs, 6 runs, 13 runs yesterday and 8 runs so far today

I'm not saying we dont need to make a move but something special is really going on with this team

Posted by: Bleacher_bum_SF | July 04, 2009 at 05:11 PM

Bleacher, I love watching this team succeed...

We have a lot of pieces that can be moved and not upset the grand scheme...

OF -
Winn and Lewis are expendable. Nate can take over right and Torres or Bowker are better than Lewis in LF assuming we don't get a big bat for LF.

2B -
This position has been open all season. If we could pick up Freddy Sanchez or Dan Uggla, Frandsen would be expendable. Uribe could be Utility and DFA Richie FINALLY.

1B -
If Huff, Johnson or LaRoche were acquired, Ishi would become expendable. Or platoon while DFA Richie.

Sadowski has pitched great so far. I'm sure he'll have his bad days but Sanchez is now expendable.

Rowand CF
Freddy Sanchez 2B
Sandoval 3B
Dye LF
Schierholtz RF
Ishikawa 1B
Molina C
Renteria SS

Replace Dye/Sanchez with Uggla/Nick Johnson

Adam Kennedy/LaRoche

Still a nice upgrade

Posted by: 55saveslives | July 04, 2009 at 06:12 PM

Johnson, Huff, LaRoche= strikeouts! Please Giants, look somewhere else. W.T.F. about Holliday???

Posted by: MorbidRyan | July 05, 2009 at 04:03 AM

I mean, when veterans are on crap teams, there's usually a reason they're on crap teams.... no?

Posted by: MorbidRyan | July 05, 2009 at 04:11 AM

Not that I think SF should get him(I think they should be getting team controlled prime talent)but MorbidRyan Nick Johnson is not a strike out risk he's got a career OBP of .400

Why would Atlanta trade Escobar?
SS is the hardest position to fill after C AND get good Offense AND defense from AND he's young, under team control and they have no one ready to take over.
The premise that they would trade him for Jose Guillen is stupidity the Royals won't(And won't expect)to get anything for Guillen they'll be glad if some takes the contract off of them.
Bronson Arroyo will be a good pick up for a team as would Heath Bell.

If the Giants don't come away with Dan Uggla this trade deadline their GM should be fired on the spot.
He fills TWO needs(2B of the future and present AND he is a clean up hitter)and his trade value is as low as its gonna get.

Why do the Astros insist on keeping their veterans instead of re-filling a shockingly bad farm?
I understand wanting to keep Berkman but Lee, Valverde,Oswalt, Hawkins, Pudge, Matsui and Tejada could bring back a haul of young talent and drastically reduce payroll. They're not going anywhere with this team so why not break it up?

Posted by: OhPityMe | July 05, 2009 at 04:45 AM

Thank you OHPITYME
I'm sick of McClane and Ed Wade.
Get their @$$3$ of out there.
They're ridiculous.
And only one thing is wrong about that post. Why would we keep Berkman instead of Lee?
Lee is a much more proven and steady hitter throughout the year when Berkman only hits in one half of the season. Lee is the one to build the team around if he was 5 years younger, not berkman. Get rid of them ALL. Screw keeping these guys. We're going no where the entire season or for the next couple of years. They need to stop putting things off until the last minute. I hope McClane goes bankrupt and is forced to sell the team because this is getting to be ridiculous.
I'm sick of this same old "yes man" policy McClane is bringing to this organization. He's a nice guy, I really do like him as a person, but he is NOT fit to own a baseball team. I hope he reads this $#1T.

I'm 16 years old and I can run a ball club better than he could, EVER.
And right now with the way our bullpen is going, you may as well put my great grandma out there on the mound.

Posted by: averybear11 | July 07, 2009 at 02:02 AM

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