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Yesterday we learned that the Pirates are "pushing hard" to trade All Star second baseman Freddy Sanchez before this year's trade deadline, but nothing appears imminent right now. Here's the latest roundup of Sanchez rumors courtesy of Dejan Kovacevic of The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Rob Biertempfel of The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, and Gordon Edes of Yahoo! Sports.
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Do the Cubs have any money to spend right now?
Posted by: 815Sox | July 11, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Regarding the Rockies, Alan Embree is out for the season after last night's injury, so they should be on the phone discussing John Grabow any second now.
Posted by: bigpat | July 11, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Hard to imagine teams balking over Sanchez when he is 3x the player of the Rockies Atkins and the arbitration figures for Atkins next year will not be much less if anybody is looking at Sanchez playing 3rd like maybe seattle with Beltre out.
Posted by: johns | July 11, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Capps, Sanchez and Grabow for SS Reid Brignac, RHP Wade Davis, OF Desmond Jennings, and LHP Jake McGhee..... hows that sound??? the pirates get to clean house and get 4 promising young talents.
Posted by: BucsNewEra2011 | July 11, 2009 at 10:19 AM
if pirates offered capps and/or sanchez i think we could get mike stanton of the FLA Marlins.
Posted by: Lubic24 | July 11, 2009 at 10:19 AM
"Do the Cubs have any money to spend right now?"
No they dont. IMO this is just bad conjecture by Edes. The cubs onwernship situation is still NOT resolved. Sanchez will be owed $8 mill next year, when the cubs payroll will still be in the mid $130 mill range( even with Harden and Greggs contracts coming off due to more escalating contracts).
Posted by: rollingdeuce | July 11, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Bigpat,
Boston has Delcarmen who the Rockies FO has coveted for years, only it seems that the Rockies are only so far wanting to trade people like Atkins and maybe Spilborghs that are of inferior quality.
Delcarmen is under team control for 3 more years and would allow the Rockies to move Street for premium prospects. If the Rockies would be willing to move Tulo, or somebody that would actually help the Sox in any way, am sure something could be worked out with Delcarmen, or even more of the Sox premium pitching that they are loaded with in the minors.
Posted by: johns | July 11, 2009 at 10:24 AM
The Cubs can get some flexibility from the tribune if needed so I say they pull the trigger on this deal if it is them that are interested.
Posted by: CuBzwin | July 11, 2009 at 10:31 AM
@Lubic24: I hope your Stanton comment is sarcasm - he will not be moved.
Sanchez is vested for $8.1m for next year - his All-Star appearance this year raised it by $100,000.
I'd prefer Hellickson from TB instead of McGee...but it wouldn't happen.
Posted by: xlazox | July 11, 2009 at 10:32 AM
to me Tampa Bay makes the most sense to me to trade with... they dont have a closer... and 2B Iwamura is out for the whole year. Wade Davis becomes expandable because of all the good SP they have...same for Reid Brignac last year they wouldnt trade him but now with the break out of Bartlett and Ben Zobrist who can play SS and there 1st Overall pick in Tim Beckham who is there future at SS you would think both become expandable..throw in Grabow and get 2 to 3 more prospects which i want Desmond Jennings OF whos having a nice season in AA and is only 22.
Posted by: BucsNewEra2011 | July 11, 2009 at 10:33 AM
I think that the Cubs can trade for him. The Giants are looking for a bat and the Cubs have a lot to trade. Lou is fed up with the Offense and i can see them trading a "hitter" for him. I think the Cubs can be VERY active in the trade deadline.
Posted by: Tanner | July 11, 2009 at 10:33 AM
I think that the Cubs can trade for him. The Giants are looking for a bat and the Cubs have a lot to trade. Lou is fed up with the Offense and i can see them trading a "hitter" for him. I think the Cubs can be VERY active in the trade deadline.
Posted by: Tanner | July 11, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Sanchez in a Cubs uniform intrigues me. Sanchez/Grabow for Blanco and you fill in the blanks to complete the trade. DFA Miles.
Posted by: CubCrazy | July 11, 2009 at 10:34 AM
I wouldn't be shocked to see the brewers make a play for him. They need an everyday 2B bad. Criag Counsell should not be an everyday fixture in any line-up
Posted by: AndyVanSlyke | July 11, 2009 at 10:38 AM
I would love to see Tim Beckham get dealt to the pirates, but i think the Rays see him as "untouchable"
Posted by: BuccoFan24 | July 11, 2009 at 10:47 AM
i'd love to see him as a cub too, but everything i've read suggests that they cannot add a significant salary until the ownership situation is settled & the new owner approves. which has not happened & probably won't by the deadline. remember, they couldn't even afford to keep derosa who made half as much. unless the pirates eat a good bit of the salary, which they shouldn't... i just don't see it happening.
Posted by: kevin1013 | July 11, 2009 at 10:48 AM
The Cubs could do it if they're convinced they'll have a new owner by next year. They only have to have 5 Mill available and next year is the only real problem. Maybe the Cubs will add a little bit more to the package for cash considerations to the Cubs.
Posted by: CuBzwin | July 11, 2009 at 10:51 AM
"The Cubs can get some flexibility from the tribune if needed so I say they pull the trigger on this deal if it is them that are interested."
No they cant. Everything that has been coming out of Hendry's mouth lately all suggests that they are standing pat. The checkbook has been taking away from Hendry, people need to accept that already. Any wishfull thinking that Zell is gonna give Hendry more payroll is delusional. If the cubs make any moves they are gonna be of the Jeff Baker, Ryan Freel type.
"The Giants are looking for a bat and the Cubs have a lot to trade"
Hey genius, Sanchez plays for the Pirates, not the Giants. Unbelievable. And no they have no interest in DH types like Jake Fox and Hoffpauer. The Pirates arent just going to give him away, especially to a team in their own division.
"Sanchez/Grabow for Blanco and you fill in the blanks to complete the trade. DFA Miles."
Oh well since the great andres blanco is being dangled im sure they pirates will jump all over that. Oh boy
Posted by: forlife61 | July 11, 2009 at 10:51 AM
thats the last thing i wanna see Sanchez in a cubs uniform... they need to focus on Tampa, San Fran and Colorado to trade sanchez...why should we help the cubs out you guys have been screwing us for years in trades
Posted by: BucsNewEra2011 | July 11, 2009 at 10:54 AM
forlife61,
Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed?
The Pirates will need a 2nd baseman if they trade Sanchez, If you don't want Blanco, fine, pick from the plethora of Cubs current 2nd basemen. You can have any or all of them.
Posted by: CubCrazy | July 11, 2009 at 11:01 AM
I don't think it's the Cubs. I have a friend that is friends with someone that is on the Cubs beat pretty often, and he says this guy has told him the Cubs cannot add any payroll until the new ownership is approved by MLB and the bankruptcy court.
His speculation/sources tell him is that the NL Central team is the Brewers looking to find a replacement for Rickie Weekes for the rest of this year and would move Casey McGehee to 3B the rest of the year.
Posted by: ibleedcubbieblue | July 11, 2009 at 11:20 AM
The Cubs could do it if they're convinced they'll have a new owner by next year. They only have to have 5 Mill available and next year is the only real problem. Maybe the Cubs will add a little bit more to the package for cash considerations to the Cubs.
Posted by: CuBzwin | July 11, 2009 at 10:51 AM
Cubzwin,
I promise you that the Pirates giving the Cubs cash considerations won't happen. Part of the reason the Pirates are probably getting rid of him is payroll related, and even if they aren't they can certainly find another team to trade Sanchez to (outside of the divison as well too), get an equal package and not have to pay them anything.
Posted by: ibleedcubbieblue | July 11, 2009 at 11:26 AM
The Cubs can get some flexibility from the tribune if needed so I say they pull the trigger on this deal if it is them that are interested.
Posted by: CuBzwin | July 11, 2009 at 10:31 AM
Cubzwin,
Don't mean to jump on you my friend, but that statement is 100% wrong.
Posted by: ibleedcubbieblue | July 11, 2009 at 11:29 AM
I highly doubt Tampa is interested in Sanchez. Aki could be back before the season, and if anything happens to Zobrist, they have Aybar and Brignac to back him up. No real need for Sanchez and that salary which they can't take on anyways.
And they don't need a closer, bullpen has a 0.70 ERA since June 1. And throwing in someone like Grabow and thinking you cold get a prospect back of Desmond Jenning's caliber is pretty crazy.
Posted by: DuvalRays | July 11, 2009 at 11:37 AM
Even if the cubs had the budget room, I would rate the odds of them matching up with us as slim to none.
You may have this city get pissed off trading Sanchez, but just wait to see him in the same infield with Aramis....wow...thats a deep burn for buc fans...lol
But seriously, the cubs dont have much that we would covet. NH and FC have a plan, and they are not deviating from it.
If the Brewers cannot make a run at Halladay, I can very much see a deal involving Zach Duke and Freddy Sanchez with a return package being anchored by Alcides Escobar, whom is the player I covet most in any farm system.
You know if the brewers have been on the phone with NH, Alcides name is mentioned every time.
NH, please get us our middle infield for 2011...PLEASE.
Posted by: Dempsey | July 11, 2009 at 11:48 AM
"# Edes reports that a NL Central team is involved, and speculates that it could be the Cubs.
# Sanchez's $8MM vesting option based on plate appearances is an obstacle in any trade."
Escalating contract paying a player a more then he should make? That part has Hendry written all over it.
But the problem is ownership. We might be able to do it if the Rats pick up at least a chunk of the remaining 08 cost, but not sure how much future cost they can add either since the situation is up in the air.
And this is where I again give Hendry the middle finger he deserves. Please do us all a favor and turn in your Resignation, you real life Elmer Fud!
Posted by: SuzysMan | July 11, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Umm Iwamura is not out for the year, heck the latest news. Tampa needs Grabow a lot more than Sanchez, why would the #1 scoring team in the majors need Sanchez ? Bullpen thats it folks
Posted by: SFGiant55 | July 11, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Suzysman,
Just a question,
When new ownership takes over, do they remove both Hendry and Pinella?
Posted by: johns | July 11, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Ok this makes no sense, Zobrist has shown good D at 2B, he is an all star cuz of the bat and he can go to RF but both Gabe's are doing well for over a month now.
As for Grabow, look at Choate's numbers as far as lefties and Shouse is gonna be healthy soon also.
Capps, I like but check out the pen for the last like 2 months, we don't need him and he is too pricey. I would like him over Bradford but the Pirates will want too much.
Freddy Sanchez....heh, I can see the dumb jokes now, the Jason/Freddy MIF
Posted by: RaysFan | July 11, 2009 at 12:49 PM
The only way the Cubs could get Sanchez is if the Pirates take Miles and pay the difference in salary between Miles and Sanchez. Of course we'd add prospects though.
Posted by: baseball52 | July 11, 2009 at 12:51 PM
"The only way the Cubs could get Sanchez is if the Pirates take Miles and pay the difference in salary between Miles and Sanchez. Of course we'd add prospects though."
So pretty much what you're saying is consistent with everyone else...there is no way Freddy Sanchez is a Cub.
NH would hang the phone up as soon as the name Aaron Miles was mentioned...
Posted by: Dempsey | July 11, 2009 at 01:15 PM
"The only way the Cubs could get Sanchez is if the Pirates take Miles and pay the difference in salary between Miles and Sanchez. Of course we'd add prospects though."
Let's see.. Sanchez, valuable and productive player that is well worth his salary both this year and probably the 8M option for next year, vs the not worth a roster spot Aaron Miles you are asking the Bucs to take back that Hendry gave a 2 year contract to and still has 4M left through next year? Why not just ask them to take Bradley off of the Cubs hands instead, the odds are the same of Huntington being suffering from temporary insanity and going along with either proposal anyway.
Posted by: johns | July 11, 2009 at 01:21 PM
"Just a question,
When new ownership takes over, do they remove both Hendry and Pinella?"
Yes. Or at least give both an option to leave so they can save some face.
Lou has continually talked about being at the end of his managerial career anyway, and has mentioned 2010 as possibly his last season. He will likely bow out, or just move on if his deal is done. Hendry, well I dont think you can find a wall big enough for him to see the writing on.
The only problem, new ownership probably wont make such a move instantly. If they took over now, they might make a move prior to the 2010 season, but even that is fairly quick. Most sales see the current front office in place a full season before real changes are made. It could realistically be 2011 before we see the changes the new ownership should make.
That is why I am calling for him to turn in his resignation now instead of putting us through the pain :)
Posted by: SuzysMan | July 11, 2009 at 01:54 PM
It cant be the Cubs. I dont see a reason why it would be the cubs!
Posted by: Tanner | July 11, 2009 at 02:43 PM
I absolutely hate the Cubs, so I hope they do not get Sanchez.
Posted by: piratesmvp04 | July 11, 2009 at 02:58 PM
The Rockies interest in Freddy Sanchez has not cooled off, because they were never interested to begin with. Those were just assumptions and nonsensical reports from the Pittsburgh side of things.
Posted by: A-Tex | July 11, 2009 at 03:53 PM
I'm sorry, but I just read someone suggest the Rox trade Troy Tulowitzki for Manny Delcarmen???????????? LOL. Would you like them to throw in Dexter Fowler, Ian Stewart and Chris Ianetta while there at it?
Posted by: ProgMatinee | July 11, 2009 at 04:07 PM
"The Rockies interest in Freddy Sanchez has not cooled off, because they were never interested to begin with. Those were just assumptions and nonsensical reports from the Pittsburgh side of things."
Funny how people with no knowledge whatsoever of what is going on in a team's front office can be sure of things like this. Especially since I read a report from a COLORADO newspaper saying that the Rockies would be willing to part with Gonzalez or Weathers for Sanchez.
Posted by: BucSox | July 11, 2009 at 04:16 PM
Well I'm guessing you're talking about the Denver Post, but according to todays Denver Post columnist Troy Renck says "The Rockies have been baffled by reports of their interest in Pittsburgh's Freddy Sanchez. They are not attempting to acquire him, their focus squarely on bullpen arms. No deal is expected until it gets closer to the July 31 trading deadline. . . ."
so someone is full of beans, but I doubt Renck would make up that the Front Office told him they aren't interested.
Posted by: ProgMatinee | July 11, 2009 at 04:35 PM
Well I'm guessing you're talking about the Denver Post, but according to todays Denver Post columnist Troy Renck says "The Rockies have been baffled by reports of their interest in Pittsburgh's Freddy Sanchez. They are not attempting to acquire him, their focus squarely on bullpen arms. No deal is expected until it gets closer to the July 31 trading deadline. . . ."
so someone is full of beans, but I doubt Renck would make up that the Front Office told him they aren't interested.
Posted by: ProgMatinee | July 11, 2009 at 04:35 PM
i'd be curious to see your Colorado article mentioning the Rockies reciporcating interest.
Posted by: ProgMatinee | July 11, 2009 at 04:38 PM
"Funny how people with no knowledge whatsoever of what is going on in a team's front office can be sure of things like this. Especially since I read a report from a COLORADO newspaper saying that the Rockies would be willing to part with Gonzalez or Weathers for Sanchez."
Get your facts straight. That was John Perrotto from Pittsburgh making those ridiculous claims about Gonzalez and Weathers for Sanchez.
Tracy Ringolsby from Inside The Rockies (a Hall of Fame writer by the way) shot down the Sanchez rumors from minute one. If there had been any shred of possibility or truth to those rumors, he would have reported it. He didn't report it, the rumors never made a single bit of sense anyways, so it's safe to say there was never any interest.
The only players of interest to Colorado on the Pittsburgh roster are Grabow and Capps.
Posted by: A-Tex | July 11, 2009 at 04:50 PM
forlife61,
Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed?
The Pirates will need a 2nd baseman if they trade Sanchez, If you don't want Blanco, fine, pick from the plethora of Cubs current 2nd basemen. You can have any or all of them.
Posted by: CubCrazy | July 11, 2009 at 11:01 AM
ok hold up a sec i have a idea why dont the cubs trade bobby scales? sorry bobby i like u but sanchez would be great! Pluse Sanchez and Scales contracts match up.
pluse we could throw in some prospcts at pitcher and short stop. that might work write ur coment
Posted by: Wrigleyterror37 | July 11, 2009 at 05:48 PM
"Tracy Ringolsby from Inside The Rockies (a Hall of Fame writer by the way)"
Peter Gammons is a HOF-writer. Plenty of sh#% writers are in the writer HOF. It doesn't mean squat.
Posted by: B3NG4L | July 11, 2009 at 06:07 PM
terror37,
I love Scales too. I see the Pirates wanting to go with a younger player, Scales and Sanchez are both 32, Blanco is only 25 which is why I tossed out his name earlier. If they want a veteran, then go with Miles.
Posted by: CubCrazy | July 11, 2009 at 06:13 PM
"Peter Gammons is a HOF-writer. Plenty of sh#% writers are in the writer HOF. It doesn't mean squat."
I know you probably have no idea who Tracy Ringolsby is, but please do not mention him in the same breath as Peter Gammons. I understand your point about the HOF, but that's like comparing ice cream to horse manure.
Tracy earned his spot.
Posted by: Townie | July 11, 2009 at 06:36 PM
NL Central team just screams Cubs. No other NL Central team would be interested.
The Bucs should agree to pay the rest of Freddy's '09 salary, trade him to the Cubs, and jack the hell out of the prospect price. Clean out the non-Vitters portion of the Cubs' farm system. Like definitely take two of Starlin Castro, Andrew Cashner, and Jay Jackson and then some lower level guys.
Although the Milton Bradley Game Count is at 69. Trading for another outfield bat (Holliday?) if another team is willing to eat salary, and then releasing Bradley would be a good idea (but then, I want to see the Cubs put together a Holliday package with Vitters involved).
Posted by: melonis rex | July 11, 2009 at 08:25 PM
OK. No lower level guys, Neal, because that would be too much. Just take two of Castro/Cashner/Jackson.That would be a win for the Bucs.
"Freddy Sanchez....heh, I can see the dumb jokes now, the Jason/Freddy MIF"
Beat me to it. I'm impressed.
Posted by: melonis rex | July 11, 2009 at 08:33 PM
"Although the Milton Bradley Game Count is at 69."
(weeps internally)
Posted by: SuzysMan | July 11, 2009 at 11:12 PM
Can someone tell me what it would take for the Cubs to acquire Sanchez??
Posted by: CubbiexKush | July 11, 2009 at 11:28 PM
god, i love the cubs... but hate their fans. they feel that they are in on every big trade candidate even when they've made it very clear that they can't add payroll & aren't deep in prospects.
baker, freel, and the rest of the scrap heap are the only moves the cubs will make... get over it.
if they live up to half their potential they will win the division regardless!
Posted by: kevin1013 | July 11, 2009 at 11:34 PM
I wish Dave Littlefield was still the GM of the Pirates, we fleeced them a few times with Aramis Ramirez and Kenny Lofton also with Randall Simon back in 2003 and we gave up Bobby Hill, no longer in Baseball
Posted by: Matthew Rayan | July 12, 2009 at 06:40 PM
why is everyone here so bent on the cubbies? they havnt even been mentioned in F.Sanchez talks nearly as much as Seattle, S.F., or Colorado! These are the teams that you should be focused on.
Ive heard very interesting rumors invovling both J.Wilson and F.Sanchez from Pit. to Sea. for young MLB ready pitching prospects. Sanchez could fill in at 3B or they could move J.Lopez there and keep Freddy in the middle. Even I.Snell's name has come up as a hole filler in a 3 way if Sea. has to move either E.Bedard or J.Washburn to another team (most likely the Brew Crew)
Posted by: dj tizzo | July 14, 2009 at 12:01 AM
Trade F sanchez R doumit 4 Josh vitters A cashner and pay some of sanchez's salary or snell
Posted by: Bucco fan 1# | July 20, 2009 at 08:00 PM
Trade F sanchez R doumit 4 Josh vitters A cashner and pay some of sanchez's salary or snell
Posted by: Bucco fan 1# | July 20, 2009 at 08:00 PM
Sanchez to mariners for J.Wilson, J.Clement, and M.Wilson done deal the cubs arent even goin to be a factor
Posted by: IF I GET 2000 FOLLOWERS WILL NAME MY CHILD BATMAN | July 22, 2009 at 09:24 PM
Mariners are buyers not sellers washburn and bedard stay here
Posted by: IF I GET 2000 FOLLOWERS WILL NAME MY CHILD BATMAN | July 22, 2009 at 09:25 PM