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Miguel Angel Sano Rumors: Monday

9:25pm: Arangure also notes that the Aroldis Chapman defection could have a major impact on Sano's negotiations.  As he tweets,

"Certain teams will save money for run at Aroldis. Last minute offer (for) Sano less likely now."

9:04pm: Seeking more information, I asked Arangure whether the Twins and Pirates also see Sano as a guy not worth a $4MM signing bonus.  He was kind enough to respond:

"For me, the Twins aren't real contenders anymore. The Pirates won't give record money because they won't have to."

8:58pm: ESPN's Jorge Arangure, who's been on the ball since the international signing period began on July 2, just rattled off a couple of interesting "tweets" involving 16-year-old shortstop Miguel Angel Sano:

"Am convinced Sano will not get record money. Orioles see him as late-first-round talent, which does not equal $4 million. More like $1-$1.5."

"Those who think Orioles will give record $ for Sano remember: They gave $3.2m to No. 4 pick [Brian] Matusz last year. Gave [Matt] Hobgood $2.4 this yr."

"There's no way Orioles are giving more to Sano than they gave Matusz and Hobgood."

If Arangure is correct, and the other teams tracking Sano follow suit, Wagner Mateo, singed July 2 by the Cardinals for $3.1MM, will go down as the highest-paid international prospect from 2009.  Sano has been courted this summer by the Twins, Pirates and O's, who are awaiting the results of an MLB investigation into his age and identification.


Comments

I really hope the O's get Sano. It will reassure the fan base that the team is willing to spend for talent. If Sano went on to have a career like Tejada, the O's would love that.

Just asking for the heck of it- are you really Dany Baez's mother? I guess no, but, it's always worth asking.

If Yankees can't do anything about this (they should, the price keeps dropping every day now), I think the O's would make more sense for Sano. They have some underappreciated fans down there, and a really awesome future in a few years (around 2011/2012). Your waiting will be rewarded.

3M? and the dodgers remain quiet... *sigh*

nah...I created that name on the O's message board in 2007 when Baez was blowing every other game and I was pissed

I hope the O's sign him.

Ask the guy who he thinks will sign him.

I'm hoping this is a sign he'll be signing with the bucs. Everything points that way, but it wouldn't be the first time my bucs let me down.

No point in asking him who he thinks will sign Sano. Arangure has been listing the Pirates as the most likely destination pretty much from the beginning. Others have had differing opinions, but from Jorge you're going to get Pirates.

"Certain teams will save money for run at Aroldis. Last minute offer (for) Sano less likely now."

So he might take 3-4 million dollars?

Chapman will take 20-40 million dollars..

Those two signings will have no bearing on one another.

He's ours, just like he has been all along. To the comment above about the Os having to do this for the fans, cmon bro, you're talkin to a Bucco fan, haven't had a winning season since I was 7.

Ok Here's where the Braves should say forget Mike Minor and go after this kid. We desperately need MI prospects.

Bucconation,

You missed out then on the really glorious days of Clemente, "Pops" Stargell, Steve Blass. Bob Moose, Dave Giusti, Candy Man and the We are Family bunch of the late 70's crowd. The Bucs of the early 70's were a real force to be reckoned with.

This kid is 16, won't play in the majors for 5 or 6 years at best and may or may not be worth a flip. I for one am tired of hearing about teenage prospects from other countries who probably won't do squat. Anything relevant to post?

There's a lot of logic behind Jorge Arangure's comparison to the Matusz and Hobgood deals. MacPhail is consistent. The Os have been very good about signing draftees for above-slot money, even Day 2 guys, but MacPhail is a conservative spender and he won't break open the bank for a gamble. He has said as much in an interview with Roch Kubatko. MacPhail has stated that the club has a number, that it will not go beyond.

That being said, the Os have broken the bank open for prospects they deem worth it, like Wieters, who they set a franchise record with at 6M. Tho with Wieters it was less a gamble since he already had a reliable college track record. Sano would be quite a gamble no matter how many times he's worked out by teams. He has raw tools, but you never totally know how good until he spends a few years in organized ball.

It just occurred to me that this is kind of an appropriate face-off for prospects. The Os, the winner of Wieters, is facing off with the Pirates, the team who passed on Wieters. Interesting.

If the Pirates get Cano, does it make up for passing on Wieters for Pirates fans? Or did taking Alvarez make up for that?

@basemonkey: as a Pirates fan, my personal opinion is that you don't "make up" for the past, you try to learn from it.

I, for one, don't place the Pirates previous (before Huntington) draft decisions solely on the GMs in place, but rather on ownership. Don't tell me Littlefield wanted Moskos over Wieters - that was dictated by ownership. I don't think the Pirates took the best avialable talent with their picks, but I don't think it was due to ignorance...rather I feel it was because they were directed to do so based on $$$.

That said, last year's draft (Alvarez, R. Grossman, Q. Miller all above slot) injected a lot of talent into the organization, but that talent did not make up for ownership's transgressions the past 5 - 7 years. It showed ownerships (temporary?) willingness to open the wallet and obtain some talent via the draft

Signing Sano is a step in the right direction - at least they are making an effort to inject more talent into the Pirates minor league system. But was Tony Sanchez the best available talent at that pick, or rather ownership resorting to the spending habits of 2-5 years ago? If they can sign some of those "reach" HS pitchers they drafted in the later rounds that dropped due to bonus demands, I can live with the Sanchez pick...but it would be nice to have him backing up Wieters in a few years.

Taking a catcher that high, albeit the top catcher available, did shock me a little. He has to be a pretty special catcher to go that high over a lot of the pitching talent that was available. It did look like a signibility pick, but time will tell. Attrition rates have a way of taking out a lot of the sting in these things. Who knows? Maybe Sanchez ends up being the only top 10 pick with a long MLB career out of the bunch? It isn't that farfetched to think so.

That being said, there's little chance Wieters ever leaves Baltimore.

The Pirates certainly haven't lacked smart baseball men during their down period, so the ownership criticism holds water with me.

The Pirates did get a good haul in '08. It just takes a couple of them to be a fullblown rennaissance. To clubs that are down it might seem like a million miles away, but it doesn't take as much as you might think. Ask the Brewers and Rays. It wasn't that long ago when they were perrenial bottom-dwellers. The Os look to be rising. So do the Royals. What we're seeing with those teams really only started a couple seasons ago. With the Os, it started with 2-3 good drafts in a row..but most importantly, the ownership seems to have made a committment to stay out of baseball matters, and trust their GM, MacPhail. It's amazing how much just a little bit of trust can do.

Maybe the offer the Twins have on the table is the best Sano is going to get, though I'd be surprised if the Pirates don't match it and get him.

While I was a a big naysayer in drafting Tony Sanchez....don't look now, but he's hitting .368 and has an OPS of .899 at Lo-A. Of course it's only Lo-A...but encouraging, nonetheless.

LongSufferingBucsFan: also keep an eye on how he does against the opponents running game - I think he threw out 3 guys in his brief stop @ State College.

His catch/throw is supposed to be his big asset.

I don't think anyone should doubt Tony Sanchez is a top quality prospect. I think the argument is about him being a Top 5 prospect. That part is a stretch. If he ends up being a solid MLBer, many Pirates fans would take that, but it came at a slot where you see players like Evan Longoria, Verlander, Kershaw caliber of prospect.

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