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Elias Rankings Update
At the end of each season, The Elias Sports Bureau ranks all MLB players numerically based on a bunch of stats. Every player is categorized in one of five position groups and by league. The rankings cover a two-year time period. They are used to determine whether free agents are Type A, Type B, or neither. If you'd like a reminder on how draft pick compensation works, read up here.
Eddie Bajek of Detroit Tigers Thoughts reverse-engineered the Elias Rankings last year. Eddie's incredible work was made possible in large part due to information provided by ESPN's Keith Law. Eddie is now providing the rankings exclusively to MLB Trade Rumors. Today's snapshot covers the beginning of the 2008 season through September 28th, 2009. The rankings will change over the remainder of the season.
View the latest Elias Rankings below.
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Everybody, there was an error in yesterdays that I wanted to correct. Excel got wacky and listed some NL Starting pitchers as relievers. It should be corrected today. My apologies.
This is the last update until the end of the season.
Posted by: ebajek85 | September 29, 2009 at 06:58 PM
Everybody, there was an error in yesterdays that I wanted to correct. Excel got wacky and listed some NL Starting pitchers as relievers. It should be corrected today. My apologies.
This is the last update until the end of the season.
Posted by: ebajek85 | September 29, 2009 at 06:58 PM
Looks like you threw a few more errors into it.
Teixeira is a 62.5 now?
Posted by: venn177 | September 29, 2009 at 07:28 PM
how did kurt suzuki drop to a B overnight and like 20 points?
Posted by: Trust in Beane | September 29, 2009 at 08:41 PM
how did Youk drop so far, a week or so ago he was listed as a Type-A, now he's below even the Type-B threshold. Error, or broken system?
Posted by: boston20 | September 29, 2009 at 09:01 PM
B Giles is type B? LOL
Posted by: Pads/Angels fan | September 29, 2009 at 09:07 PM
It seems a few of the first basemen are a little broken.
Posted by: venn177 | September 29, 2009 at 09:12 PM
Dammit... Working on it. Excel is screwing with me.
Posted by: ebajek85 | September 29, 2009 at 09:25 PM
Fixed
Posted by: ebajek85 | September 29, 2009 at 09:38 PM
If anybody's curious (and to cover myself)... What's happening is that I have Excel programmed to read downloaded stats from tables. To speed up the processing time, I have it reading from certain rows... say Row 4 through 2000. Well, at seemingly random times, it decides to change that row from 2000 to something smaller and everytime I update, some references change without me knowing it until there are some crazy results. This is why Randy Wells and Max Scherzer's positions were screwed up yesterday (It didn't see their 2009 games started) and why Tex, Youk, and Suzuki were off today. Note that all of these guys are at the end of the alphabet as well...
Sorry for the error, it's something I'll look at over the offseason to try and nip in the bud. It's a bit late now.
Posted by: ebajek85 | September 29, 2009 at 10:04 PM
It's all good ebajek85-
You provide info we can't find anywhere else and the mistakes are easily found and filtered out, i'm happy just by having an ideal of what to expect from my teams FA's in terms of comp.
Posted by: CubFanRaysaddict | September 29, 2009 at 11:01 PM
These are totally bias towards to big market teams. There is NO WAY Shane Victorino, Nate McLouth, and MILTON BRADLEY are better than Joey Votto.
Give me a break!
Posted by: Ethanator99 | September 30, 2009 at 12:04 AM
Kurt Suzuki > Victor Martinez?
Orlando Hudson > Hanley Ramirez?
Brad Lidge's 2009 not enough to bump him from Type A status?
Posted by: vtadave | September 30, 2009 at 12:36 AM
"Brad Lidge's 2009 not enough to bump him from Type A status?"
You have to remember, as awful as this year is for Lidge, last year he was perfect in save opportunities with no losses (except the all star game). The fact that he's now borderline A/B says something.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | September 30, 2009 at 12:59 AM
What really says something to me (about Elias, not your reverse engineering) is Joey Votto being ranked above Ryan Howard. Votto's a very nice player, but its ridiculous. Howard has significantly more RBI's and HR's, nearly double. Votto has a big lead in AVE (.305 vs about .265) and OBP, but that shouldn't be enough, and aren't those two almost the same stat? If that's not enough, the "tie breaker" according to the formula would appear to be plate appearances, which I believe goes to Howard.
Posted by: EvenSteven | September 30, 2009 at 07:56 AM
Ryan Howard has 686 PA
Joey Votto has 524 PA
Votto is hitting nearly .320
But I agree with you EvenSteven, Ryan Howard is having his usual great year.
Out of all 1st baseman in the league I feel Howard would rank 3rd behind the Prince of Milwaukee and King Albert.
Posted by: Ethanator99 | September 30, 2009 at 10:01 AM
J.D. Drew type A
Jose Reyes type B
ummm, okay.
Posted by: nomad | September 30, 2009 at 12:21 PM
I don't know how the scoring goes, but how does Joe Mauer get a 94? Why not 100?
Posted by: brocmiller1 | September 30, 2009 at 02:16 PM
EvenStephen,
If Votto and Howard were the only two 1B, your comparison would make sense (except you haven't factored in the injury adjustment).
However, the rankings are calculated based on how the players rank against all players at their league and position, meaning that your comparison no longer flies.
I've said this many times. Ryan Howard is way overrated by the general public.
nomad,
Reyes has missed most of this year and the DL only covers you for 60 days of proration. Why should Reyes be Type A?
Brocmiller1,
Mauer doesn't lead in every category.
Posted by: ebajek85 | September 30, 2009 at 07:45 PM
Anyone else notice the Dodgers have like, 2 A's and 5 B's? Could get interesting. With our record being so high our 1st round pick may be low enough that they won't hesitate to sign a Type-A.
Posted by: GScott | October 04, 2009 at 08:37 PM