Angels Sign Joel Pineiro To Two-Year Deal

Joel Pineiro officially signed a two-year deal with the Angels worth about $16MM today.  The Cardinals will receive a supplemental first round pick as compensation for losing the Type-B free agent.  The 31-year-old Pineiro probably won't match the departed John Lackey, but he was the best available free agent starter.

Pineiro will apparently receive just $1MM more than Jason Marquis despite having a much better 2009 season.  Pineiro pitched like an ace, with a 3.49 ERA in 214 innings for the Cardinals.  His 60.5% groundball rate and 1.1 walks per nine innings were both MLB bests.  Cards pitching coach Dave Duncan deserves credit for the former, as Duncan convinced Pineiro in February to try a sinker.  The walk rate may be more difficult to repeat.

The Mets and Dodgers were also known to be pursuing Pineiro.  They'll now have to turn to Jon Garland, Jarrod Washburn, and Braden Looper for bulk innings.  Ben Sheets, Erik Bedard, John Smoltz, and Chien-Ming Wang provide the post-injury upside.  Pedro Martinez sits somewhere in-between.

Ken Davidoff of Newsday first tweeted Pineiro's Angels preference, while SI's Jon Heyman and ESPN's Buster Olney followed with tweets of the agreement.

Tim Dierkes contributed to this post.


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196 Comments on "Angels Sign Joel Pineiro To Two-Year Deal"


dodgers_suck
5 years 7 months ago

this still doesn’t replace lackey.

xTheHalosx
5 years 7 months ago

There not trying to replace lackey with Pineiro, there just looking to add to SP depth, I just hope its a 1 yr deal..

5 years 7 months ago

It better be a 1 year deal. Man this sucks. Signing Piniero might be a bigger let down than Rodney.

NYYANKEES
5 years 7 months ago

Angels are better with Reckling than Pinerio. Yeah for your guys sake you better hope its only a 1 year deal, but last I heard Mets offered 2/16 so unless he decided to take less and a 1 year deal it looks like it might be more.

jshepcomm
5 years 7 months ago

Reckling wouldn’t be the alternative. It would be someone out of Palmer, O’Sullivan or Bell.

Guest
5 years 7 months ago

Reckling could out pitch Palmer and O’Sullivan with his right hand.

S8P7W
5 years 7 months ago

4.99 BB/9 in AA last year kinda discredits your point, don’t you think?

Guest
5 years 7 months ago

I’m just saying that Trevor Reckling is going to turn out to be the next Cole Hamels (when he’s on). Outstanding change up but he isnt ready for the Majors yet. They still need to groom him and fix his control but when he’s ready…He will be ready!

5 years 7 months ago

so it looks pretty official. reaggins just made a huge mistake.

but he will right in with matthews, rodney, and fuentes in a quartet of contracts that will throttle our ability to compete or sign players that are actually worth multiple year deals at high dollars.

jshepcomm
5 years 7 months ago

Considering they may not let Fuentes’s option vest for 2011, his contract may not be an issue.

But this and Rodney’s deal are hardly throttling. Stoneman did screw up big time with Matthews though.

5 years 7 months ago

maybe not throttling, but they don’t make us significantly more competitive with NY or Boston.

Guest
5 years 7 months ago

I agree…I think that Trevor Reckling is the best pitching prospect in all of Baseball. The Guy will dominate once he’s Major League Ready. I just don’t know where he fits in in 2010…They should trade Saunders for a third baseman. I don’t think that Brandon Wood is a good fit at third for the Angels. His defense is not up to par even though his power is exceptional.

vtadave
5 years 7 months ago

I’m not sure whether:

A. You’ve been hangin’ with Tim Lincecum or
B. You’re Trevor Reckling’s agent

As for your claim below that Reckling is baseball’s #1 pitching prospect, let me give you a few names: Stephen Strasburg, Kyle Drabek, Martin Perez, Madison Bumgarner, Wade Davis, Jeremy Hellickson, Casey Kelly, etc. Reckling is young, left-handed, and has very good upside, but please don’t mention him in the same breath as a guy like Strasburg. Kevin Goldstein projects him as a #3 starter. And the Cole Hamels comparisons? Please don’t.

Guest
5 years 7 months ago

First of all…The only reason why everyone knows of Casey Kelly is because he has been mentioned in A-Gon and Halladay trades. Stras hasnt proven himself yet there is just a lot of hype. Drabek okay…Hellickson…okay you got me but I’m just saying that Reckling is definetly in the same conversation as those that you just mentioned. The kid has great stuff. Needs some grooming on his fastball command but hes only 19. Martin Perez has his problems and he’s only 18. The reason why prospects are prospects is because they have their flaws. Thats why they have Minor League Baseball. And also whether or not Reckling is a number 1 2 3 4 or 5 starter, Perez, Davis, Hellickson, Alderson…Those guys are not exactly number ones themselves and I wouldn’t say they are better than Trevor Reckling.

vtadave
5 years 7 months ago

Sorry sir, but I’ll trust Baseball America, scouts, and BP and just go out on a limb and say Strasburg is a better prospect than Reckling. Same with Drabek, Hellickson and a host of others. In fact, Reckling may not be the top pitching prospect in his own organization. A heathy Jordan Walden gets my vote there.

ivdown
5 years 7 months ago

The Cole Hamels comp. was just dumb. Cole Hamels walks like 2 batters per 9, not 5. I didn’t even think of Casey Kelly or Strasburg.

Also for SPAN, Reckling was 20 last season, not 19 now.

ivdown
5 years 7 months ago

Lol, yeah, Madison Bumgarner, Neftali Feliz, Derek Holland, Chris Tillman, Brian Matusz, and like 20 other pitching prospects might have a problem with what you just said.

Guest
5 years 7 months ago

Derek Holland should. The kid is nasty. But honestly I want to apologize for the bold statement I made about Trevor Reckling. I get excited when it comes to the up and coming players in MLB and MILB. I obviously know of all of Baseball’s best prospects and I shouldn’t have jumped on the Trevor Reckling train before I thought about Bum, Hellickson, Drabek, and Kelly. Sorry guys…

Guest
5 years 7 months ago

If you take Jason Bay out of the equation…The Mets have had the worst off season out of all thirty teams. They needes starting pitching more than a bat like Bay and i’m not criticizing Bay but Piniero + another starter and a catcher were bigger neccessities. The Mets have to work out a trade to get the starter that they need. These two days could jepordize Omar Minaya’s job. Molina and Piniero were their targets and they missed out…Should we expect Jon Garland to throw 225 innings for the Mets with a 4.50 ERA and what about Jarrod Washburn and that knee of his? The Mets missed out. On the other hand…What a great signing for the Angels…That AL West could be the toughest division in Baseball. Especially for the Teams that play in it. The A’s have one of the best bullpens in Baseball to go along with a young talented rotation. The M’s have had a spectacular off-season that could translate into a division title. The Rangers look great with that young rotation, solid defense, and pretty good offense. That division is so exciting!

We will see what happens with the Mets but bottom line…They just let to good opportunities pass by. Their best bet is the trade market and if they think that a team will pick up Castillo’s contract or their “fantastic minor league system” (yeah right) they should think again. We will see what happens.

5 years 7 months ago

Sheets, Wang, Garland.

Never liked Piniero an I’ll snap if we sign Smoltz…

lemurguy
5 years 7 months ago

Smoltz out of the bullpen for 7th or 8th … he’s the smartest free agent out there and the mets’ pitching staff needs some wise old veteran leadership.

Sheets, Smoltz, Delgado (for cheap w/ incentives), and i’d even pick up nomar to play the role julio franco did in ’06

alphakira
5 years 7 months ago

“If you take Jason Bay out of the equation…The Mets have had the worst off season out of all thirty teams.”

What?! So, if you take out Texiera, Sabathia, and Burnett out of the equation last year, does that mean the Yankees had the worst off season last year?? That type of logic doesn’t make any sense.

And NO Mets fan that knows the game of baseball wanted Pineiro or Molina. We have 4 backups catchers already – no need for a 5th. We also have plenty of questionable pitchers already, no need for another – especially at a price that would be worth to take a risk on Sheets or Wang at.

Wolfbane
5 years 7 months ago

Way to go Omar, now who the f00k are you going to sign?

tumbleweed58
5 years 7 months ago

Sorry to see him go to a team thats going to finish dead last place in the West and struggle to win 70 games this year

crunchy1
5 years 7 months ago

Looks like Sheets might get his 10M after all.

KeithLawSucksInStl
5 years 7 months ago

Yeah, this does seem like a possibility… This would null the Cards in the Sheets bidding then too. As a Cards fan, I would much rather have Penny at 1M less as a guy who’s had a decent success in the past–hooked up with one of the best pitching coaches of all time (Duncan) – over Pieneiro, who’s had more bad years than good. I wish all the best to Pineiro, but I don’t think he’s worth it.

Ferrariman
5 years 7 months ago

This almost forces the mets to get sheets

FineHamAbounds
5 years 7 months ago

hahaha… the Mets can’t win for losing.

Guest
5 years 7 months ago

What?

InTheKZone
5 years 7 months ago

Have you never heard the phrase “can’t win for losing”?

NYJonny
5 years 7 months ago

Wow, on Monday both Molina and Pineiro were joining the Mets and now there both going to diff. teams. How about Sheets and Garland for the Mets

dodgers_suck
5 years 7 months ago

maybe sheets. i see garland as a nat.

kphowes
5 years 7 months ago

hopefully garland or sheets becomes a dodger! but i doubt it… and i think the pineiro sign was a good one by the angels

dodgers_suck
5 years 7 months ago

won’t happen. they have padilla now and young guys like mcdonald to compete for the 5th spot.

kphowes
5 years 7 months ago

yea i hear ya. but mcdonald was frustrating to watch last year, walks way too many. i think they should take a chance on someone, and not settle for guys like padilla and ortiz…

Sampsonite168
5 years 7 months ago

Not 100% official so I’m not going to start celebrating quite yet but this would be amazing if the Mets could avoid signing both Molina and Pineiro, two bad baseball players that are not the missing pieces the Mets need to win a championship, to contracts they don’t deserve. If this goes down the Mets offseason automatically becomes at least a 7 out of 10 by default because they will have managed to not make any obviously bad signings.

Wolfbane
5 years 7 months ago

Oh yeah, because signing NO ONE is so much better than signing Pineiro.

Omar blew it, BIG TIME.

Pineiro was decent, and it is NOT a good thing we didn’t sign him in any way, shape, or form.

Sampsonite168
5 years 7 months ago

They didn’t “sign no one” because the offseason isn’t over yet. If they miss out on Sheets then I will agree with you.

theangelsalley
5 years 7 months ago

Fantastic. I’m so glad that we passed on trading for Lee, Halladay, Lowe, Vasquez, etc or paying for Lackey or even Garland or Sheets in order to get Piniero, who has had one good year for a weak NL Central team.

First Rodney and now this. Unless it is a one year deal for $5 million, I just don’t get it.

Ferrariman
5 years 7 months ago

Since when are the cardinals a weak team?????

theangelsalley
5 years 7 months ago

what in the world is Reaggins doing? Unless this is for one year and $5 million, we just made a horrible move.

please say this is false.

NYYANKEES
5 years 7 months ago

Angels are stupid to sign one of the ultimate NL pitchers

5 years 7 months ago

I know. I can’t believe we did this. We pass on so many, in order to get Piniero…Piniero!!!

I hate my life.

NYYANKEES
5 years 7 months ago

PS: Sheets has a big smile right now

HoneyNutIchiro
5 years 7 months ago

So do most of the AL hitters..

dodgers_suck
5 years 7 months ago

holy crap. i can’t stop laughing at this…

gs01
5 years 7 months ago

That’s a good one.

5 years 7 months ago

Dodgers failing offseason continues.

mike1231
5 years 7 months ago

the depth would be nice…as it’s probably needed…but pineiro and braden looper are essentially the same guy…in the american league w/out duncan i would project a 4.25 ERA/1.35 WHIP for him in 2010…i feel like james mcdonald will give that kind of output next season if given the opportunity…as kershaw and billingsley go…so will the dodgers…it’s that simple…regardless of who they signed this year…and it was pretty slim as far as pitching goes.

lakersdodgersyankees4life
5 years 7 months ago

I disagree. The Angels gave a guy who had a career yr after 5 average yrs 2 years guarranteed. There are enough other options instead of giving Joel 18m

thetruelateam
5 years 7 months ago

True. I was pissed when I saw this post and not because he didn’t sign with the Dodgers. It’s that he picked the Angels over the Dodgers. Piniero will suck in the AL. It was a two horse race and they were both NL teams, which makes sense. The AL will tear him up. Once Ben Sheets comes around and realize 12 mil with a player option and loads of incentives is way too much for a guy that hasn’t pitched in a year, I can see him coming to Los Angeles. Not Anaheim, LOS ANGELES. Colletti is probably calling up Vicente Padilla’s agent at this moment with a contract offer.

Kate
5 years 7 months ago

I sincerely hope you’re right about that last bit — I’ve been hoping Padilla stays with the Dodgers, and I was honestly a little amazed when it seemed like they were more interested in landing Pineiro…

lakersdodgersyankees4life
5 years 7 months ago

Personally, I have never been that in tuned with the LA vs LA rivalry. We play different divisions and only play 2 series a yr. We both have young talent and some of it(from both teams) have blossomed into superstars. I was slightly disappointed that he didnt sign with us, but I dont mind NOT having Pinerio on the books for 2/18..

And I really hope its Sheets well before Padilla…

thetruelateam
5 years 7 months ago

I agree. Kendry Morales turned into a home run machine this year out of virtually nowhere. Ethier and Kemp had breakout years, and I think this year it’s Kershaw’s turn to open eyes. Sheets would be nice but you know the Dodgers would go with Padilla for the low-risk bargain over the high-risk $10 million a year Sheets. I wouldn’t mind Padilla at all but I would like Sheets.

lakersdodgersyankees4life
5 years 7 months ago

I just fear that Padilla goes back to the crap he was before he got to LA. It seems the Dodgers feel the same way, as they arent giving into demands. Giving Padilla 5M, or more, to be guaranteed the #4 slot in the rotation is a risk.

Like I said, I’d prefer Sheets to Padilla, by a long shot, and will be a little scared having Padilla be our 4th starter.

xTheHalosx
5 years 7 months ago

Agree on the “rivalry”. With 6 games through out of the season, if we played in the same league then THAT would be a rivalry. I like the young guys the dodgers have ( and now through arb, for a couple years). I usually tend to root for them in the playoffs. Mostly whats bothersome is arrogant-loud-mouthed fans, that aren’t fans of baseball just their city

vtadave
5 years 7 months ago

Angels fans would like you to think there’s a rivalry, but there really isn’t. Angels are the red-headed stepchild of LA, ownership problems or not.

ea19
5 years 7 months ago

Except for the fact that the ANGELS have won a title in the last 20 YEARS!!!!

ivdown
5 years 7 months ago

That 1 title really makes up for the 5 more that the Dodgers have than the Angels, or the 3 more titles since the Angels have been in the MLB. Sure does.

ea19
5 years 7 months ago

I’m not a fan of either LA team, but what have the dodgers done in the past 20 years!!! That is all that matters. I don’t see Kirk Gibson and Orel Hershiser or Don Drysdale and Sandy Koufax walking onto the field anytime soon. I am a Twins fan, I don’t go bragging about the world series titles that they won in 1987 and 1991, because those 2 championships mean nothing RIGHT NOW. The Dodgers shouldn’t be satisfied with what they have done in the PAST. That is why I thought it was funny that you were talking trash about the Angels who have won something in the last 20 years

lakersdodgersyankees4life
5 years 7 months ago

I think it pissed Dodger fans off a little when the Angels called themselves ‘The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim”. It would have been like the Dodgers calling themselves “The Orange County Dodgers of Los Angeles”, when the Angels were in Anaheim for years. Personally, I dont care, but that is where some Dodger fans get the hate.However, I do think there is no rivalry on the field, simply off the field.

xTheHalosx
5 years 7 months ago

Ya, Arte simply wanted to broaden the teams marketablilty, hell I bet just as many Angel fans hate the LA part of the name. THe city name of “Anahiem” had to be left in cuz of legal issues when Arte bought the team from disney.

vtadave, the only ‘red’ on the Angels is on their uni’s 😉

crashcameron
5 years 7 months ago

gee, i thought it was pink

xTheHalosx
5 years 7 months ago

I dont get it, is this supposed to be an insult??

ivdown
5 years 7 months ago

Not many Dodger fans wanted Pineiro…so ok. I don’t think it would be much of a “fail” to have Mcdonald or Elbert starting for the Dodgers in 2010, or both. I’m sure a bunch of teams would love to have either one of them at the back of their rotation.

dreamer3kx
5 years 7 months ago

This is great news for my Mets who were interested in him, he is a bum who had one good year, look at his career, he will get smashed without Dave Duncan.

NYYANKEES
5 years 7 months ago

http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/status/8008756702

Angels reach agreement with Pinerio 2 years $16 million. Same offer as Mets

wright_is_my_boy
5 years 7 months ago

win win for the mets .. 1. hes NOT a met and 2. hes not going to face the mets …. its a beautiful thing.

Guest
5 years 7 months ago

If you don’t want him to face the Mets then you are implying that he’s really good. And if so then why don’t you want him to be a Met?

humbb
5 years 7 months ago

Not sure, but I think what he meant was that the Mets (somewhat like the Giants last season) have a tendency to make opposing crappy pitchers look like HOF’ers. He is relieved that Pineiro will not be one of them.

bomberj11
5 years 7 months ago

I wonder how the Angels do this year. Last year they lost K-Rod and Texiera and STILL made it to the playoffs. If Brandon Wood can produce like he can, they will have a season similar to last years.

thetruelateam
5 years 7 months ago

I disagree. I think the Angels will miss the playoffs this year. They lost K-Rod and Teixeira last year but gained Brian Fuentes and Kendry Morales. They have no third baseman, a lack of an ace, etc. I think they might even finish 3rd. Seattle has had the best offseason of anyone: Chone Figgins, Cliff Lee, Milton Bradley, re-signed Griffey and Guttierez. I think the Mariners will be the AL West kings, Twins central, Yanks east, and BoSox wild card.

bjsguess
5 years 7 months ago

Go back in time one year.

Read the panic that was Angels baseball. They lost out on the two biggest FA’s (Tex and Sabathia) and lost their ace closer in K-Rod. Morales wasn’t projected by the mainstream to be anything decent. Then the Angels dealt with the death of their top pitching prospect, injuries to Lackey, Santana, and Saunders. Positional players dropped like flies. Yet, when the dust settles there are the Angels – the 2nd best team in baseball.

Wood is a wildcard. He certainly has better credentials than Kendry Morales ever had. If Wood puts up a 250/320/450 line he will be just fine. Pineiro is being asked to anchor the back-end of the rotation. Expecting an ERA in the mid to high 4’s is hardly a stretch. Continued maturation by all their young guys and the Angels could be just fine.

Seattle has had a very active off-season. Whether it was “best” or not we will see.

toprock
5 years 7 months ago

Please stop with the homer mentality, who has had a better off season then the M’s plus they still have money to spend Pinero please, at least Safeco should hold some of his pitches.

xTheHalosx
5 years 7 months ago

Homer mentality? What fan of any team wouldn’t be atleast a little bias? No one can argue the good OFF season Seattle has had, just that you should wait till at least all star break to see how the M’s season ( and the Angels and the Rangers) has played out til that point.

thetruelateam
5 years 7 months ago

You have a point. Mike Scoischa took that team from its grief to an AL runner-up team. When I heard the Adenhart news I thought it was all over for the Angels.

xTheHalosx
5 years 7 months ago

So because they (seattle) had the best off season they win the division? Cmon guy, your kidding yourself. Let them play 162 then see how well your “on paper, Seattle is ALW kings” plays out.

thetruelateam
5 years 7 months ago

They have improved a ton. The Angels have gotten worse and the Mariners have gotten better. And of course you think I’m kidding myself! Look at your username!

xTheHalosx
5 years 7 months ago

Lol ya so what about it? Am I supposed to be in dismay and think the way you do? Pfft look at your name, its obvious you just don’t like the Angels, but hey maybe you’ll have fun hating on us in the playoff while the dodgers lose the NL west

cookmeister
5 years 7 months ago

K-Rod + Tex > Fuentes + Morales…. i think at least. and considering we had no idea what morales was going to do, we cant just ride off Wood at this point.. tht comment is to the guy below sry

BK
5 years 7 months ago

The Angels didn’t JUST make the playoffs. They were the second best team in baseball and lost in the ALCS because of two extra inning fielding mistakes. This isnt a bad deal if its 2 years @8 a year for a solid #5. Now our depth is Reckling Bell and Palmer. This allows our young arms to develop a little longer and step in when someone gets hurt. By the time this deal expires one of those names will have stepped up. T

xTheHalosx
5 years 7 months ago

Agreed, everyone is so quick to consider Seattle AL West champs, but don’t give the Angels a shot because the lost some starters to FA. Seattle was 1 of the worst teams in run production and LOST Russel the muscle and Beltre their 2 power threats, now if Bradley does well who else has a legit power threat? Maybe Griffey can, idk.

I think Texas will be a bigger threat to the Angels, not seattle

Ferrariman
5 years 7 months ago

Beltre was non-productive to their 85 win season, Bradley should easily replace that.

Question for marinar fans: would it make more sense to bat ichiro 2nd and figgins 1st. That way ichiro’s monster avg with RISP is more utilized and the M’s can get more run production.

5 years 7 months ago

the only consolation is that palmer can now go back to the bullpen where he pitched so much better than he did as a starter

Sampsonite168
5 years 7 months ago

“If true, the Halos are getting a steal by landing him for only $1MM more than the Nationals paid for Jason Marquis.”Yea, maybe if you live in a bubble where only his 2009 contract year season matters and he wasn’t a terrible pitcher for 5 years straight beforehand.

xTheHalosx
5 years 7 months ago

Agreed, not too sure about this 2 year stuff >.>

Hopefully Duncan’s magic will be with Pineiro this season

Mickeyblue
5 years 7 months ago

When Randy Wolf get’s 3/30 then 2/16 is a steal for Pineiro

rorad
5 years 7 months ago

So out of no where he gained talent because he was in a contract year? I’ve never understood why people say this. I can’t imagine walking out to the mound and thinking about the contract I’m going to sign in 6 months. I think the players and their pitching coaches deserve the credit.

Sampsonite168
5 years 7 months ago

Because it happens all the time. It would be nice if every player cared about nothing but winning 100% of the time and always went out and gave 110% every single day but the reality is that they don’t. And lol at “gaining talent”. I guess when a pitcher has a bad year coming off several consecutive good years it’s simply because he “lost talent”.

ea19
5 years 7 months ago

Have you ever heard of having a bad game……It is not that they don’t try, they are too competitive to just throw games and stats away. They wouldn’t be in the pros if they didn’t care

Thurman8er
5 years 7 months ago

Yeah, I’m not much of a Pineiro fan either, but he’s a whole heckuva lot better than Matt Palmer.