Baseball Blogs Weigh In: Mets, Gonzalez, Contreras

On this date back in 1983, Dodgers' hurler Fernando Valenzuela became the first player in baseball history to receive a seven-figure award through the arbitration process. During his first two-plus seasons as a big leaguer, Fernandomania had been named the Rookie of the Year, appeared in two All Star Games, and won a Cy Young Award. The arbitration panel awarded him a $1MM salary in his first year of eligibility, nearly tripling his 1982 salary. 

As the last few present day arbitration cases wrap up, here are some links to check out from around the baseball blogiverse…

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25 Comments on "Baseball Blogs Weigh In: Mets, Gonzalez, Contreras"


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Aranathor
5 years 4 months ago

Link is to the wrong Fernando Valenzuela

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RiverKKiller999
5 years 4 months ago

If the Braves were to do another Tex like trade for A-Gon I wouldn’t be happy.I mean of course I wouldn’t mind having him on the team but for a year and a half ? Thats just a waste of prospects ect.I would sign him to a multi year deal instead of trading him next year like they did Tex.

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5 years 4 months ago

padres will ask for jason heyward. if he is not in it no ideal.

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RiverKKiller999
5 years 4 months ago

They won’t include Heyward in the deal and who could blame them ?

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start_wearing_purple
5 years 4 months ago

Then Hanson. Look, Braves farm is deep but for a guy like Gonzalez they’ll want a major piece. Quality over quantity.

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5 years 4 months ago

This is such a joke. People act like all Atlanta has to offer is either Heyward or Hanson. Braves system is chock full of young arms including Teheran and Vizcaino. Not saying that a deal is going to happen, and I hope it doesn’t because a healthy troy glaus would be more than adequate plus there’s hinske to back up, but atlanta has the pieces w/o Heyward and Freeman. I mean there’s Teheran, Vizcaino, Spruill, Minor, Randall Delgado, and Freddie Freeman plus a few more. And as for quality over quantity, Teheran would definitely be a centerpiece type arm

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start_wearing_purple
5 years 4 months ago

And the same people who think the Braves can offer so little were the ones screaming to Red Sox fans who were making trade proposals that didn’t include Westmoreland and/or Kelly.

I already said the Braves farm is deep. But you need to remember a few things about your farm: 1) Freeman has less than 150 Abs above single A level… he posted an unimpressive .650 OPS during this time. 2) Teheran has less than 40 innings above rookie ball and they weren’t exactly dominate. 3) Vizcaino has less than 50 innings above rookie ball though dominate. 4) And now that I’ve gone through them… none of the pitching prospects you mentioned are above single A ball.

Add to that remember, this is for a guy who posted a .958 OPS last year… his OPS away from PETCO was 1.045. Yeah, you will have to give up something huge and certain.

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5 years 4 months ago

Freeman wouldn’t even interest the Padres much as they have Blanks, I was just including him as part of the depth of the system. Freeman’s wrist was also messed up in his time in AA, tried to play through it, didn’t go too well as you can see by the less than impressive numbers. Teheran and Vizcaino, yes they’re young, but these are two of the 15 or so best pitching prospects in all of baseball. A-Gonz had a monster season for sure but it really was the first time he ever showcased superstar potential, his huge value comes in that he’s incredibly cheap for the next two years unlike Prince Fielder, the better player, who is going to make ~25M compared to Adrian’s 10 or so. As for Westmoreland, hasn’t he had multiple knee surgeries and missed extensive time in his minor league career? Fantastic prospect and I’d love to have him but that’s got to be a concern. And Kelly is in the same situation as Teheran/Vizcaino. Honestly Teheran=Kelly and something like Vizcaino + Spruill would equate to the caliber of a Westmoreland. Atlanta could without a doubt pull off a deal without Heyward/Hanson but it’s all moot because it’s not happening.

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RiverKKiller999
5 years 4 months ago

They can keep dreaming then.They ain’t getting Heyward or Hanson.

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atlantaspike
5 years 4 months ago

If the Pads insist on a Heyward level of return, they’ll wind up getting a Peavy-like deal after waiting too long. Every day they wait, his value goes down. They managed to turn Yunel Escobar into a set of good but not great prospects last time by overreaching, and I bet they do it again.

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

Except for the fact that its a completely new front office staff. You did know that Kevin Towers got fired, right?

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atlantaspike
5 years 4 months ago

Well that certainly explains why they’ve let every team have the whole offseason to set their 1B position without making a move while the market was still open. You did notice that, right? They’ve already blown the max return.

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

I’d argue that they haven’t blown their max return since teams become more desperate for bats as the trading deadline approaches. In the off-season there’s always the free agent venue that can be perused as a viable alternative to trades. Mid-season teams don’t have that luxury and therefore prices are driven up. Its like the law of supply and demand. If there’s three teams that’d like an upgrade at 1B and A-Gon is obviously the best option available, then there will be a nice little battle for his services.

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atlantaspike
5 years 4 months ago

Completely backwards. Fewer suitors, fewer matches in terms of talent to trade vs, need acquired, and the primary asset has reduced in value by 25 percent of his remaining “cheap” contract. Teams aren’t as dumb about how much value a single player adds to their team as they used to be. You are counting on one of the deadline teams A: needing a 1B, B: willing to trade with you and vice versa(Dodgers? I think not) C; having talent that you want, and D: being willing to swap that talent for Gonzalez. Good luck with that. What if none of the three teams you are referring to has players you like at a salary level you want? What if two of them are division rivals? Or wild card challengers and you are still in it? Your strategy has an extremely large potential for failure as a result of a reduced number of teams competing for his services and what they may have to offer in return, as well as limiting your strategic options of who you’d like to trade him to.

edited for clarity

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bravejack
5 years 4 months ago

Feliz and Andrus…but we did get Kotchman