Johnny Damon Rumors: Monday

Johnny Damon would like to play for the Tigers, agent Scott Boras informed Lynn Henning of the Detroit News.  Boras praised Damon's 189 successful plate appearances at Comerica Park and says the outfielder believes he can make the Tigers a winner.  However, as of January 15th, the Tigers had not expressed interest in Damon.  MLB.com's Jason Beck dissects the situation in today's mailbag.

Damon's future remains unclear – the Blue Jays and Rays have kicked the tires, but that's about it in recent weeks.


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63 Comments on "Johnny Damon Rumors: Monday"


Guest
5 years 6 months ago

Well that’s what he gets for being stingy. If he wanted to play for a definite winning team he should have taken the Yanks offer.

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 6 months ago

Not fully knowledgeable, but I don’t think Damon ever saw that offer, not that he’d accept it anyway. I think the 14 mil deal was only if N. Johnson declined his offer. They really didn’t need both. Jeter, Granderson, Gardner, Johnson, Damon… lead-off and 2-hole city.

strikethree
5 years 6 months ago

The guy is basically kissing every team’s behind…

I suppose that’s what you get for being greedy.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

For the life of me, I just don’t see how this makes any sense for the Tigers. Please someone tell me how this makes sense for the tigers. They trade away Granderson who’s salary for 2010 is less than $5mm or there about, is 29, an all star caliber player, had multiple organizations set up in the area and now the Tigers may still be in the discussion for 37 yo Damon? Huh? It would have made more sense for the Tigers to have been in on Winn or the multiple other outfielders who cost btw $500k and $2mm.

Hoosierdaddy92
5 years 6 months ago

they got granderson at his peak value. call me skeptic, but I don’t see him getting any better if he’s still hitting .250 at age 29 and still can’t hit lefties to save his life. Damon would be a one-year rental, and they could deal him at the deadline if they still suck this year. Damon is a good vet, proven in the post-season. at the right price, I would love him as a Tiger.

Hoosierdaddy92
5 years 6 months ago

they capitalized on both Jackson and Granderson’s value. A-JAx will be the .300 hitting, 30 base stealing threat that the Tigers wanted out of Granderson. He will hit less for less power, but they need more OBP guys and thats what A-Jax will do. Scherzer and Schelereth are cheaper versions of Edwin Jackson and will be very solid major league pitchers. Phil Coke will easily and cheapily replace Brandon Lyon, and Valverde is a huge upgrade over rodney.

YanksFanSince78
5 years 6 months ago

Please keep in mind that the rumor is that Boras is calling the Tiger to get talks of Damon going. In no shape or form does it read that the Tigers are actively interested in signing Damon.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

Come on man…Granderson at peak value? That’s a lot of bs in my opinion. Granderson is a highly intelligent, athletic player. I can expect he only gets better than last years line. While I’m not saying he’ll hit 40 homeruns, he is probably one of the best outfielders in the AL, at the moment.

Futhermore, you can an rate Ajax hitting .300 stealing 30 bags when he has not even seen one major league game. Non of us have seen him and for the most part, based on what scouts say, he may not be all that he was cracked up to be, at least in the next year or two.

I understand the Granderson trade was predicated on them aquiring the pitchers they did from the D-Backs, but to even go into a discussion for Damon is just absurd. I agree with Y78 and this is mostly a Boras rumor and not so much the Tigers.

Hoosierdaddy92
5 years 6 months ago

i agree that it is mostly a Boras rumor. I also sorely miss Granderson. But the Tigers clearly got the best return they were ever going to get for those two players. I am also saying that Damon would not be terrible in Detroit, especially if HE WANTS to play there. I’d love to see him steal some starts from Magglio, to ensure that Magglio’s 2011 option doesn’t vest.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

No one arguing that the Tigers didn’t get a good return. The Yanks stole Granderson in my opinion, but in terms of the overall trade, the Tigers bagged some A+ talent and did very well. They should not spend a nickel. The idea was to cut payroll. Stick to that plan.

That said, for them to trade away Edwin and Granderson only to go back out and spend $6,7,8mm is just stupid and a poor allocation of assets and it would only furthermore prove why they (Tigers) are where they are at the moment. Don’t spend a nickel, you have a lot of money freeing up after 2010. If they were smart they would work AJax and these pitchers. Save the money and potentially have a great offseason 2010 and get ready for some good baseball in 2011. You just need to write 2010 off.

I’m a Yank fan and I love Damon, but the Tiger’s MUST stay out of this discussion.

5 years 6 months ago

I understand the concept of rebuilding if you are in the AL East but it doesn’t make sense if you have a $120 million dollar payroll in the AL Central. Signing Damon to a one year deal doesn’t have any effect on the 2010 off-season and doesn’t take at bats away from rookies Jackson and Sizemore. While I look forward to the Tigers having money to spend in 2010 one has to be realistic in thinking what free agents would want to come to Detroit. I think they will make a run at Crawford, etc. but we must look at the past and see who has signed in Detroit. Pudge, Magglio, Kenny Rogers, Todd Jones all were either aging or coming off injury. Jose valverde didn’t have any other options. Tigers must mix young prospects with aging veterans to compete. No premier free agent has ever signed with the Tigers. Take your shot to win now in a winnable division.

Hoosierdaddy92
5 years 6 months ago

you hit the hammer on the nail there. IF they have the money to sign Damon cheap on a one-year deal, he is a great asset and I would welcome him. thats all I was saying. P.S. On the other hand, I never said Granderson was bad. He just do what the tigers wanted well which was leadoff, get on base, and steal bases. A-Jax has a better chance of succeeding in that goal, but hitting for less power, which is a worthwhile tradeoff. A-Jax is in the top 50 prospects in Baseball; the shocking majority of baseball scouts believe that he will become the everyday center-fielding, lead-off hitting, player he is projected. The only reason he gets a bad rep is because he is out of new york. And there are a lot of those yankee fans who believe once a prospect/talent leaves new york, his talent vanishes. Damon would be great for a one-year gamble, and if cheap enough, even a two-year gamble.

Hoosierdaddy92
5 years 6 months ago

they got valverde cheaper than what they would have gotten any closer of his talent next year, when they plan on contending and they have him for next year. I wouldnt mind a discounted Damon for this year and next. At least then they are guaranteed a quality player at a cheap value to replace Magglio in Right after 2010.

jerseyboyoak
5 years 6 months ago

while i really do like granderson fot the yanks, dont start calling him one of the top al outfielders. Carl Crawford, Grady Sizemore, Ichiro Suzuki, Jacoby Ellsbury, Nick Markakis, etc

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

You just said it yourself no? You take Ellsbury off that list. Most people do not regard him as a top shelf outfielder.

So you have Crawford, Sizemore, Suzuki, Markakis, Granderson, so that makes him ONE OF the top outfieilders in the league. I didn’t say he was the number 1 homey…

tigers22
5 years 6 months ago

You serious clark? Granderson is as good if not better than Ellsbury.

tigers22
5 years 6 months ago

Dude, he might not be at full playing potential, but he was indeed at full peak TRADE value. Say he peaks in a year or 2… you aren’t going to get as much for him when he’s peaked and has either plateaued or is starting to decline. They traded him at the right time, i.e. peak value

JerseyJohn32190
5 years 6 months ago

I don’t think you can just assume that Jackson will become that kind of player, and almost certainly not in 2010. From what I’ve seen and am hearing about him, he’d be lucky to stick in the majors this year.

Motor_City_Bombshell
5 years 6 months ago

As a Tigers fan…please no! I’m much more comfortable with Jackson out there. Give the young guys a chance and use the money you would on Damon to lock up Verlander.

tigers22
5 years 6 months ago

I agree 100%

yanksrdashit
5 years 6 months ago

At this point, the greedy guy might as well retire. He said he wanted to play for the yankees too, i guess that’s when he thought he’d get more money. This is one of the greediest ballplayers i have ever seen. Just thinking about it. Yes, Arod is greedy, but he swallowed his pride and contacted the yankees HIMSELF. Johnny, either retire or swallow your pride.

tigers22
5 years 6 months ago

NO! Sorry Johnny D… you aren’t worth our money.

5 years 6 months ago

The thing is it isn’t the fan’s money but Mike Illitch’s money and the guy desperately wants to have a winner in Detroit. He is not getting any younger and why not take a chance on Damon on a one year deal. He is an upgrade over Guillen in left field and gives them a legit lead-off left-handed bat. Also it allows Raburn to play some right field and maybe allow Magglio’s contract not vest. Taking money aside he makes the Tigers a better team in a winnable AL Central. I don’t see a real negative to the signing. Who else out there is better fit. Batting Jackson and Sizemore one two is just not going to cut it.

tigers22
5 years 6 months ago

Highly doubtful they’d go with Jackson and Sizemore 1-2. It’s time to let some younger guys we already have like Raburn and Casper Wells a real shot to see what they can do. They gotta develop sometime. I just don’t think it makes sense for the organization right now. Plus they’ve said all along they haven’t been interested. As far as Illitch– why would he make the call on this guy? Yeah he told DD he could go out and get Cabrera but cmon… Damon is an aging corner outfielder. I think we already have enough of those.

goldenglove002
5 years 6 months ago

It’s going to be the Braves, eventually…

Michael Brown
5 years 6 months ago

I hate to say it, but it is looking like it to me too. Bobby sounded skeptical today on Heyward skipping AAA…which I hate because the kid is ready, he has nothing else to prove in the minors.

drumzalicious
5 years 6 months ago

saying someone is young isnt being skeptical when the next statement is “but he is awfully talented”

If Damon comes to the Braves he better not cost more than 2mil because i dont see his bat adding more runs than he would give up in Left Field.

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 6 months ago

Seriously? Add the runs that McLouth would drive in more than score from batting 8th and not 1st. Also the high OBP that Damon would give. His range isn’t bad, it’s just his arm. He isn’t playing RF. I would believe that one of Yunel or Prado could cut him off.

0vercast
5 years 6 months ago

The Tigers would be better off in the long term by letting Austin Jackson get as many ABs as possible this year. They’re not going anywhere in 2010, sub .500 I project, but I see some potential in the coming years.

5 years 6 months ago

Signing Damon would have no effect on Jackson’s at bats. Damon can no longer play centerfield especially in Comerica. Let the kid bat down in the order and at least get acostumed to the Major Leagues. While I too believe it could be a tough year in Detroit it would be because of their offense and Damon would help greatly in that department. The AL central is very winnable.

tigers22
5 years 6 months ago

I don’t think they’re going to be as bad as everyone thinks. Yes there has been some roster turnover, I like that we’re getting a bit younger, but this isn’t full blown rebuilding. I’m not even trying to be biased either. Right now I’d say the Twins have the best all around team, with the Tigers and Sox a level below them, followed by the Indians and Royals. That said anyone could win the division. I love our top 3 of the rotation, and I think our late inning guys in the pen will be much better than the last few years. Hell, I’ve even seen one magazine already who had their standings predictions in it with the Tigers winning the Central.

MLBrainmaker
5 years 6 months ago

I know you can’t always just blame Boras, but just as an agent’s got a responsibility to listen to his client, he also has the responsibility to tell his client what the market will bear and what is a competitive offer. Last year, with Jason Varitek, you could claim that you didn’t realize the affect the economy would have on spending. This season, after seeing that happen once, the blame has to squarely go on Boras.

YanksFanSince78
5 years 6 months ago

I like Damon tremendously and I wish there were some way the Yanks and Boras could’ve come to reasonable terms but right now Damon seems desperate. He’s sort of like the 40 year old guy who still goes to night clubs and bars using the “Hey don’t I know you from somewhere” line. Desperation isn’t pretty and when an agent has to actively seek out and initiate and engage a GM to “sell” his client then that’s not pretty, especially when it comes to a player of Damon’s ability. NYS aided home runs and poor defense aside, Damon is still a very good ball player and a good clubhouse guy. It’s a shame things ended the way they did. Hopefully, he won’t spend 2010 on dome sub .500 club being trotted out there for fan appeal.

mu_2728
5 years 6 months ago

Scott Boras, an expert on leverage, publicly pleading for Tigers to sign his client speaks volumes. It impressive how badly this situation has been handled (by both Damon & Boras).

Rich_in_NJ
5 years 6 months ago

It may turn out that Damon’s decision to reject the Yankees’ offers, even though they involved a paycut, was really ill-advised, and that perhaps he let pride get in the way of his best interests.

5 years 6 months ago

Right now he would play for any team who pays him. he should stop trying to make that team special, because we know he just wants a contract.

Yankeefan4life
5 years 6 months ago

17 more days until pitchers and catchers report, Damon better find somebody fast. If only he had accepted the 2/14m the yanks offered the night they signed Johnson after Damon declined.

5 years 6 months ago

189 plate appearances is a small sample size that probably doesn’t lend much credence to his ability. The better gauge of his possible contribution would be to see how he hits against the Twins, White Sox, Royals and Indians.

rayking
5 years 6 months ago

Rayburn, A. Jackson, Magglio. Sorry Damon, no vacancies at the inn.

Hoosierdaddy92
5 years 6 months ago

more like Rayburn, A-Jax, Damon.
DH Carlos Guillen/Magglio

peteinPa
5 years 6 months ago

Leading off for the Newark Bears – the Designated Hitter, Johnny Damon.

RestoreTheRoar
5 years 6 months ago

Im torn on this one…first off, please drop the argument that Tigers dumped EJax and Grandy for salary reasons. Their payroll is still like $120 million this year (and will reduce $50 mil next year), without those two guys. They got rid of the to help load up on bullpen arms, and to get MLB ready players who are under team control for a longer period. Objective achieved. 10pts to the guy that said Illitch is rich and super old…the man will do anything to get a championship before he dies.

Anyways…its not that Damon would be a better fielder, but he would be a better leadoff hitter than Ajax. And he’s a lefty bat with a good average. There are no other fulltime lefty bats in the lineup and we need one desperately.

Detroit isnt built to win a WS, but they werent either in 2006 when they made it that far. All you have to do is get your foot in the door for the ALCS and anything can happen. And in the central, they still have a shot. The Whitesox and Twins are better, but but not by a lot. Anything can happen in baseball, thats why no one (smart) gambles on it.

Hoosierdaddy92
5 years 6 months ago

exactly. I know fellow Detroit fans, like myself, would like them to go out and get Crawford, Werth, and whoever else is out there. But Detroit doesn’t land the big time free agents. It has to sign aging talent, and Damon fits the bill. I really wouldn’t mind Damon at 6MM and 6MM in RF in 2010 and 2011, as opposed to Magglio for 18MM and 15Mm in 2011. He is the lefty power/speed threat that they can no longer rely on Carlos Guillen to be.

5 years 6 months ago

I understand the fan’s disdain for Scott Boras and that it would be nice to see him caught with his foot in his mouth but Johnny Damon is still a productive player and would help a lot of clubs.

peteinPa
5 years 6 months ago

He only hit 2 home runs after August 9 and batted .235 in September. Wouldn’t you be afraid that he is starting to break down (exclude the post-season – everyone’s on an adrenaline high)? With his arm better suited for T-ball, he needs to DH. The model for utilizing a DH is one that can provide power and run production. 2 HR’s the last 6 weeks of the season won’t work.

5 years 6 months ago

It is fair to worry about a player breaking down at his age but signing Damon would be a one year deal and at well below market value. While I agree that Damon would get some DH at bats I also think he would be an upgrade in left over Guillen defensively. On a one year deal it makes sense.

5 years 6 months ago

The Tigers desperately need to get some left-handed bats in their system. The play in a stadium that is more conducive to left-handed hitting and currently have one left-handed hitter in their line-up in the switch hitting Guillen if Everett and Laird are the starters at catcher and shortstop. Even their promising hitting prospects Strieby, Jackson, Wells and Sizemore are all right handed I wouldn’t see that has too much of a problem if their was a glut of left-handed pitchers in the Central but by my count there are only three quality left handers in Danks, Buerhle, and possibly Liriano. I know Damon would be only a short term answer but it would be a start and then maybe take run at the crawfords of the world when you have a bunch of money coming off the books next year.