Do The Yankees Have A Leg Up For Recruiting Werth?

Phillies' rightfielder Jayson Werth will be one of the hottest commodities on the free agent market next year, and the Yankees might have an ace in the hole if they choose to pursue him. As if they need any more help, Joel Sherman of The New York Post notes that Hall of Famer Reggie Jackson – a special advisor for the Yanks – has a longstanding relationship with Werth's family.

Jackson became good friends with Werth's stepfather Dennis when the two patrolled the Yankees' outfield in the late-70's/early-80's, and he also played with Dick Schofield during his Angels years, who is Jayson's uncle (his mother's brother, to be specific). Sherman says that Jackson and Werth had lunch together before the two teams played yesterday, and then were spotted on the field chatting before first pitch. The commissioner's office frowns upon members of different organizations interacting like that, but Sherman says it happens all the time and the league would have to be able to illustrate tampering to act in any way.

GM Brian Cashman said he didn't know of the meeting and was unaware of Jackson's relationship with Werth's family, but history has shown that he's not above bringing the heat to recruit big free agents. Last offseason he brought Jackson along to a key meeting during their courtship of CC Sabathia

Werth, 31 in May, finally started to deliver on some of the promise that landed him on Baseball America's Top 100 Prospects List four times from 1999 to 2003. A career .265/.360/.467 hitter in close to 2,300 big league plate appearances, Werth has hit .276/.376/.494 since arriving in Philadelphia during the 2007 season. His power has improved every year since then, topping out at 36 bombs last year, and he's a top notch defender in all three outfield spots according to UZR. Werth will earn $7MM this season as part of the two-year deal he signed last January.


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117 Comments on "Do The Yankees Have A Leg Up For Recruiting Werth?"


04Forever
5 years 4 months ago

If the yankees were smart they would skip Werth and go after Crawford, he has more of what they need, base hits, defense and steals

Muggi
5 years 4 months ago

True, but if TB actually ponies up some dough and keeps Crawford, Werth is pretty damn nice 2nd option.

5 years 4 months ago

yeah but the yankees already have 6 legitimate power hitters in granderson, teixeria, rodriguez, cano, posada, and swisher so do they really need anyone else to hit home runs?

East Coast Bias
5 years 4 months ago

I like Crawford better as well, but the thought of Werth protecting A-Rod for the next few years makes me drool…

MLB_in_the_Know
5 years 4 months ago

Do the Yankees have a leg up on signing any Free Agent?

– Yes.

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

Is it possible that they can get both Werth and Carl Crawford? If so then the answer is yes!

Taskmaster75
5 years 4 months ago

Oh, it’s always possible, but do they feel like it?

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

I think the real question is, what number will Carl Crawford be wearing? Number 13 is taken so maybe he takes Brett Gardner’s number #11…

Yankees10
5 years 4 months ago

Even if the Yankees do have a leg up for recruiting Werth, theyre going to sign Crawford anyway.

peterherman
5 years 4 months ago

I’d much rather see the Phillies keep him. If the Yankees get involved, they’ll get him over Philadelphia.

Yankees10
5 years 4 months ago

I dont think there is anyway the team re-signs him unless Domonic Brown struggles.

5 years 4 months ago

Only way I see werth saying with the phils is if Raul ibanez could somehow be moved. I think the ibanez signing is gonna prevent retaining werth as ibanez is making too much money to not play regularly.

aap212
5 years 4 months ago

The Phillies will be smart enough to let him walk, and they will have gotten the best years of his career. He’s going to get paid like a star just in time for him to decline.

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

So the Phillies know that he will decline but 29 other teams don’t?

Jason_F
5 years 4 months ago

I don’t think he’s saying that the Phillies are privy any information that other teams don’t have, just that it is very likely that his next contract will be overpaying him wherever he ends up. The point is Domonic Brown will presumably be ready after this season and they are willing to risk the possible drop in production from Werth to Brown for the roughly $10M they will save. There’s also a possibility he will produce similarly (maybe not right away) for a lot less loot. Either way, there is no way the Phillies re-sign Werth.

markjsunz
5 years 4 months ago

When is a minor league player better then a guy who hits 30 plus homers and 100 plus RBI. Before we make dominic Brown a superstar prehaps we should see if he can hit major league pitching.

aap212
5 years 4 months ago

“When is a minor league player better than a guy who hits 30 plays homers and 100 plus RBI”?

Well, Werth has hit 30 homers once and he’s hit 100 RBI never. Werth is about to turn 31 and he’s had two good seasons as a full time player. Why would you want to pay him big money for more than a couple of years? It’s silly to expect Brown to be better right away, but in 2011-2013, Brown making between $400k-$500k will be a much better value than Werth making between $8-11m. Looking at Werth’s career year and saying “That’s the kind of player he will be going forward” is silly.

markjsunz
5 years 4 months ago

Prehaps, or by letting your talent go and replacing it with minor league players it may be another 30 years until you make it to the post season again.

aap212
5 years 4 months ago

You don’t win by overpaying your last good idea. You win by making the next one. Look at Omar Minaya: acquiring Oliver Perez for pennies on the dollar was a great move. Locking him up was a crippling one. The Phillies got the best years of a very good player after finding him on the scrap heap. That great move is done. Make the next one.

markjsunz
5 years 4 months ago

I agree with you lets see what Werth does this year. Most players at 29 years old do not suddenly step it up and hit like worth did last year. My point is this. Everybody is hot for this kid Dominic Brown, I have seen time after time these guys come up and take time to develop, or not turn into the player everyone thought they would be, or just not have what it takes to play in the majors. It is also possible because of the ball park and having a slugger at first base has help pad worths stats. Look at the center fielder who left the phillies after hitting I think 24 home runs. He never came close to that with the giants. The bottom line is this. You rebuild with talented young players but it will take time to get back if you can to play in the world series, or you follow the yankees model and sign proven talent and try to continue to play at a championship level. The economy of baseball does not allow most teams this option. The Dodgers divorce from the public records of the court hearing show how much tax exempt profit these owners make. At the end of the day most owners treat there team as a business and pocket 100`s of million of tax free dollars, in many cases get the state to pay for the ballpark and other perks. This is there right as business owners.You will be seeing this same thing played out with any team with a player who is looking for a big payday.

markjsunz
5 years 4 months ago

Prehaps, or by letting your talent go and replacing it with minor league players it may be another 30 years until you make it to the post season again.

aap212
5 years 4 months ago

“When is a minor league player better than a guy who hits 30 plays homers and 100 plus RBI”?

Well, Werth has hit 30 homers once and he’s hit 100 RBI never. Werth is about to turn 31 and he’s had two good seasons as a full time player. Why would you want to pay him big money for more than a couple of years? It’s silly to expect Brown to be better right away, but in 2011-2013, Brown making between $400k-$500k will be a much better value than Werth making between $8-11m. Looking at Werth’s career year and saying “That’s the kind of player he will be going forward” is silly.

Jason_F
5 years 4 months ago

I’m pretty sure I never mentioned that Brown was better, nor did I suggest he was destined for superstardom. What I do think is that there is zero chance that the Phillies re-sign Werth.

markjsunz
5 years 4 months ago

When is a minor league player better then a guy who hits 30 plus homers and 100 plus RBI. Before we make dominic Brown a superstar prehaps we should see if he can hit major league pitching.

aap212
5 years 4 months ago

No, the Phillies are the only team in baseball that will have gotten the best years of his career. You know, like the thing I said. I don’t even know if the Phillies letting him leave will be because they think he’ll decline. I think it will primarily be about money and Domonic Brown.

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

Gotcha. Yeah I think that Domonic Brown will be better than Werth in the long run even if Werth puts up his regular numbers for the next 5 years. Brown will be ready by the time leaves but I still think that whichever team gets Werth will be happy with what they get out of him.

Domonic Brown is exactly the player the Phillies need. The only thing is, he’s a left handed batter. So the heart of their lineup could have 4 left handers.

But Werth is on the Phillies and he will have a good season.

Utley4God
5 years 4 months ago

Don’t rule out Phillies trading Victorino, moving Werth to Center and play Dom Brown in Right. Then Ibanez leaves and Werth is in RF, Dom in LF, and Gillies in CF… boom everybody wins

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

Boom everybody wins??? Really?

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

Boom everybody wins??? Really?

aap212
5 years 4 months ago

Ibanez, Werth, and Brown would be just a terrible defensive outfield. Granted, they have a small outfield to cover, but Ibanez is a statue who’s getting older, Werth is a good rightfielder who’s a little stretched in center, going into his thirties, and Brown doesn’t take very good routes in right.

aap212
5 years 4 months ago

Ibanez, Werth, and Brown would be just a terrible defensive outfield. Granted, they have a small outfield to cover, but Ibanez is a statue who’s getting older, Werth is a good rightfielder who’s a little stretched in center, going into his thirties, and Brown doesn’t take very good routes in right.

ThinkBlue10
5 years 4 months ago

werth in CF? Really?

Utley4God
5 years 4 months ago

Don’t rule out Phillies trading Victorino, moving Werth to Center and play Dom Brown in Right. Then Ibanez leaves and Werth is in RF, Dom in LF, and Gillies in CF… boom everybody wins

5 years 4 months ago

I could see the San Francisco Giants going real hard after him. They still are a power bat away from taking it to the next level.

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

But with Brian Sabean…

5 years 4 months ago

SS Jeter
LF Crawford
1B Texieria
3B A-Rod
RF Werth
DH Posada
2B Cano
C Montero
CF Granderson

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

You are 8/9 right. Cano should be batting 5th and Montero might not yet be ready.

Jeter SS
Crawford LF
Teixeira 1B
A-Rod 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C/DH
Swisher RF
Cantu DH
Granderson CF

Sabathia
Burnettt
Lee
Vazquez
Hughes

5 years 4 months ago

Jorge Cantu? Cliff Lee? Javier Vasquez? Only a couple of problems I see with this. Why in the world would the Yankees want to sign Jorge Cantu? 1st/3rd base and put him as a DH in Posada’s last season. Why clog the DH spot when guys frequently need games off? Cliff Lee is already having issues starting this season and anybody remember how he started out last season for the Indians? Its only when he went to the NL that he bounced back to his CY Young form. The Yankees are not going to spend big to get him, no way. And Vasquez has already said that he might retire after the season. And before we get ahead of ourselves, lets just see how he does this time around in NY and remember he just came from the NL. So although your line-up and staff is creative no way it happens.

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

Actually during his final Indians days Cliff Lee sported an ERA in the low 3’s. I don’t think his injury now will determine the choice the Yankees eventually make.

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

Actually during his final Indians days Cliff Lee sported an ERA in the low 3’s. I don’t think his injury now will determine the choice the Yankees eventually make.

5 years 4 months ago

Jorge Cantu? Cliff Lee? Javier Vasquez? Only a couple of problems I see with this. Why in the world would the Yankees want to sign Jorge Cantu? 1st/3rd base and put him as a DH in Posada’s last season. Why clog the DH spot when guys frequently need games off? Cliff Lee is already having issues starting this season and anybody remember how he started out last season for the Indians? Its only when he went to the NL that he bounced back to his CY Young form. The Yankees are not going to spend big to get him, no way. And Vasquez has already said that he might retire after the season. And before we get ahead of ourselves, lets just see how he does this time around in NY and remember he just came from the NL. So although your line-up and staff is creative no way it happens.

Qabalist
5 years 4 months ago

Why won’t Jete move back into the 2 spot? He could always be driving Crawford in.

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

Because the things that Crawford does in the number 2 hole are things that Jeter doesn’t do as good as Crawford. Jeter really excells in the leadoff spot and really didn’t do that well batting 2nd in 08. Then again, we are talking about Derek Jeter and Carl Crawford, two of Baseball’s premier players, so if you have them in thw lineup whether its leadoff or 2nd they will hit, steal bases, and get on base.

Qabalist
5 years 4 months ago

Yea in 2008 Jeter bugged me to hell hitting into double plays, but he was also injured that year, but what exactly does Crawford do better than Jeter in the 2 hole? I do agree the two could hit in either spot.

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

Well Carl is faster than Jeter, can hit for the same amount of power, and really gets on base as well as Jeter can. But Carl really does a great job batting 2nd for the Rays and Jeter does a great job leading off for the Yankees but its kind of like “if it aint broke don’t fix it”. You know? No need to change things if you don’t need to buy when you ask what Carl Crawford does better than Jeter, he’s just a much better 2 hole hitter. Also a better bunter.

Also, depending on who the 9 hole hitter is, there’s a good chance it could be a lefty and you definetly want to have a righty leading off if so. You know?

Qabalist
5 years 4 months ago

Whoa this is just another downplay of Jeter’s ability. Crawford is faster, but Jeter averages over 205 hits a year which Crawford does not, his OBP is actually over 50 points higher, and his batting average is 22 points higher. I just think in more situations Jeter can drive Crawford in than vice-versa.

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

we’ll have to see. I still think we will be happy to at least have the two.

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

we’ll have to see. I still think we will be happy to at least have the two.

Qabalist
5 years 4 months ago

Whoa this is just another downplay of Jeter’s ability. Crawford is faster, but Jeter averages over 205 hits a year which Crawford does not, his OBP is actually over 50 points higher, and his batting average is 22 points higher. I just think in more situations Jeter can drive Crawford in than vice-versa.

aap212
5 years 4 months ago

On what planet does Carl Crawford get on base as well as Jeter? Crawford’s highest ever OBP for a season would be the third lowest for Jeter. We’re talking 50 points of career difference there.

aap212
5 years 4 months ago

On what planet does Carl Crawford get on base as well as Jeter? Crawford’s highest ever OBP for a season would be the third lowest for Jeter. We’re talking 50 points of career difference there.

Yankees420
5 years 4 months ago

Since ’05 Jeter’s lowest OBP was .363, while Crawford’s HIGHEST OBP since ’05 is .364 so no Crawford cannot get on base as well as Jeter. I still like Carl and hope the Yankees can sign him if he hits FA, maybe a 4 yr. 60MM deal? I just hope they don’t offer him a 5th year, the money will be fine if the Yankees can get him for 4 years.

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

More like 4yrs/70MM.

Yankees420
5 years 4 months ago

Meh…close enough

aap212
5 years 4 months ago

You think Crawford can get four years, 70? Are you kidding me?

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

He wants 5 for 90 you think he’s going to get that?

aap212
5 years 4 months ago

I want Brooklyn Decker to walk around my living room naked. That doesn’t mean I’m going to get it. In this market, 5 years 90 is a ton, and it’s hard to imagine him getting it unless one of the Sabeans of the world desperately outbids himself.

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

Well Carl is faster than Jeter, can hit for the same amount of power, and really gets on base as well as Jeter can. But Carl really does a great job batting 2nd for the Rays and Jeter does a great job leading off for the Yankees but its kind of like “if it aint broke don’t fix it”. You know? No need to change things if you don’t need to buy when you ask what Carl Crawford does better than Jeter, he’s just a much better 2 hole hitter. Also a better bunter.

Also, depending on who the 9 hole hitter is, there’s a good chance it could be a lefty and you definetly want to have a righty leading off if so. You know?

Qabalist
5 years 4 months ago

Yea in 2008 Jeter bugged me to hell hitting into double plays, but he was also injured that year, but what exactly does Crawford do better than Jeter in the 2 hole? I do agree the two could hit in either spot.

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

Because the things that Crawford does in the number 2 hole are things that Jeter doesn’t do as good as Crawford. Jeter really excells in the leadoff spot and really didn’t do that well batting 2nd in 08. Then again, we are talking about Derek Jeter and Carl Crawford, two of Baseball’s premier players, so if you have them in thw lineup whether its leadoff or 2nd they will hit, steal bases, and get on base.

Qabalist
5 years 4 months ago

Why won’t Jete move back into the 2 spot? He could always be driving Crawford in.

yankeepride3
5 years 4 months ago

Alright, now that we tied up all our funds in TWO outfielder, which we by far don’t need two, what do we do with the rotation? Since that payroll will be around $205 million in itself, looks like were going to war with a Sabathia-Burnett-Hughes-Joba-McAllister rotation. WONDERFUL!

Rich_in_NJ
5 years 4 months ago

I think the Yankees have enough long-term contracts, especially when you include Jeter’s upcoming agreement.

mike292929
5 years 4 months ago

Of course the Yankees are going to sign Crawford and Werth and further ruin baseball. I love how this is even a topic. What do you honestly expect?

Qabalist
5 years 4 months ago

lol @ the Yanks ruining baseball. I suppose you don’t watch it nor are you a fan.

Qabalist
5 years 4 months ago

lol @ the Yanks ruining baseball. I suppose you don’t watch it nor are you a fan.

aap212
5 years 4 months ago

If the Yankees sign Werth, it will be a bad contract. Let them do it if you don’t like them.

aap212
5 years 4 months ago

If the Yankees sign Werth, it will be a bad contract. Let them do it if you don’t like them.

myname_989
5 years 4 months ago

The Phillies are going to pay to resign Jayson Werth. I’m calling it now. (Not that that means anything, Lol.) I don’t think that the Phillies are going to let the best right handed hitter in their lineup walk, regardless of whether or not Domonic Brown is ready. The Phillies best option would be to resign Jayson Werth and let Brown play another full year in the minors next year.

This way, they won’t have to resign Raul Ibanez (Werth > Ibanez) to another contract at age, what? 40? They have the left handed hitting Brown to replace him in the lineup, batting 6th, and Werth, the best right handed hitter in their lineup, batting 5th.

I really don’t think money is an option for the Phillies. We saw that this year when they were allegedly at their payroll limit before adding Roy Halladay and signing him to a pretty extension. They will be able to afford Jayson Werth, especially if they make it to the World Series again this year, and you have to like their chances.

5 years 4 months ago

The Phillies have already said that they couldnt afford to resign Werth. Besides the Phillies dont need batting. They need pitching

myname_989
5 years 4 months ago

I would take that with a grain of salt. Because when you think about the above scenario, they’d only be breaking the bank for a single season until Ibanez’s deal came off the books.

But I agree with you. As it appears now, the Phillies don’t seem like they can afford to resign Werth. What I meant above though was that I wouldn’t be surprised to see them make an exception. They have the revenue. And this is going to sound like baseball blasphemy, but in Citizens Bank Park, I’d take a strong offense over strong pitching any day of the week. They have pitching. They need to keep that offense at the top of the league. That’s how they compete.

Qabalist
5 years 4 months ago

How much pitching do they need? Let’s say Hamels returns to for and Happ can continue to improve, that’s a pretty good 1-2-3. I think they might need some bullpen help if anything. Blanton is not a bad starter either.

coachofall
5 years 4 months ago

I think we have seen the best Happ has to offer in the Bigs. Wouldnt be shocked if Moyer has better numbers than him this year as J.A regresses to has talent mean.

coachofall
5 years 4 months ago

I think we have seen the best Happ has to offer in the Bigs. Wouldnt be shocked if Moyer has better numbers than him this year as J.A regresses to has talent mean.

Qabalist
5 years 4 months ago

How much pitching do they need? Let’s say Hamels returns to for and Happ can continue to improve, that’s a pretty good 1-2-3. I think they might need some bullpen help if anything. Blanton is not a bad starter either.

aap212
5 years 4 months ago

If they traded Cliff Lee for pennies on the dollar to save money without a ton of rotation depth, why would they re-sign Werth for big money when there’s a clear replacement?

aap212
5 years 4 months ago

If they traded Cliff Lee for pennies on the dollar to save money without a ton of rotation depth, why would they re-sign Werth for big money when there’s a clear replacement?

5 years 4 months ago

Crawford and Werth would be dreamy. Just curious how it could all work. Crawford, Werth, and Granderson in the outfield? Swisher DH? Pettitte ($11.75 million) and Vasquez ($11.5 million) come off the books. N. Johnson ($5.5 million) could potentially be off the books. Still have to resign Jeter and Rivera, but I dont believe like alot of analysts that they will get huge contracts. They are 37 and 41 and as great as they are and have been wont get $20 million a year. So the Yankees have the opportunity to get both Crawford and Werth and stay around the $200 million mark, but hinging on it all is Hughes and Joba. The 2 promising youngsters have to step up this season and show they can take the void left by Pettitte and Vasquez. This way the Yankees dont have to go out and spend any $ on starting pitching and can use the $ for Werth and Crawford. Who are both defensive, speedy, productive, and patient hitters. Exactly what the Yankees have been going for the last couple of seasons. Lets just hope the youngsters step up to the plate and Jeter and Rivera dont expect massive deals.

Yankees420
5 years 4 months ago

Hughes is already in the rotation this year, so if Pettitte retires (probably will) and we let Vasquez walk, then we could replace one of them with Joba, but would still need to get a 5th starter, presumably an innings eater due to Joba and Hughes’ ages.

redsandyanksfan
5 years 4 months ago

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=7172807&topic_id=8366770&c_id=nyy

they talk about jeter contract situation i think its pretty good video

djoconnor
5 years 4 months ago

I’m a Yankees fan, first off. But this is kind of silly. The Yankees dont have a “leg up” because Reggie Jackson is friends with Werth’s uncle. They have a leg up because they have the most money. Whomever offers the most money and years to Werth gets him, case closed. Werth isn’t saying, “well, my uncle is good buddies with Reggie, so I think I’ll sign there!”.

icedrake523
5 years 4 months ago

The Yankees have a leg up because of the number they can write on his check. That’s all that matters.

icedrake523
5 years 4 months ago

The Yankees have a leg up because of the number they can write on his check. That’s all that matters.

5 years 4 months ago

Anybody think winning might be a good motive to signing with a team? Ummm, just maybe? And getting paid handsomely wouldnt be a great incentive? Hmmm, winning and money…. Might be something to that, ya think?

5 years 4 months ago

Anybody think winning might be a good motive to signing with a team? Ummm, just maybe? And getting paid handsomely wouldnt be a great incentive? Hmmm, winning and money…. Might be something to that, ya think?

dickylarue
5 years 4 months ago

Believe it or not, but I don’t think Werth profiles into what the Yankees are looking for these days. He’ll be 31 and that is too old for the Yankees to lock up long term. If he were 28/29 they’d do it in a heartbeat, but he’s already had his prime years in Philly and you’ll be paying top dollar for his decline. The Yankees have shied away from doing that kind of deal of late. I don’t see Werth as a fit unless the market for him is a 4 year contract. Anything longer than that, I don’t see the Yankees biting.

Qabalist
5 years 4 months ago

Already had? So prime years is 31 and under?

aap212
5 years 4 months ago

Generally. And players who hit their stride late tend to fall off early.

aap212
5 years 4 months ago

Generally. And players who hit their stride late tend to fall off early.

Qabalist
5 years 4 months ago

Already had? So prime years is 31 and under?

dickylarue
5 years 4 months ago

Believe it or not, but I don’t think Werth profiles into what the Yankees are looking for these days. He’ll be 31 and that is too old for the Yankees to lock up long term. If he were 28/29 they’d do it in a heartbeat, but he’s already had his prime years in Philly and you’ll be paying top dollar for his decline. The Yankees have shied away from doing that kind of deal of late. I don’t see Werth as a fit unless the market for him is a 4 year contract. Anything longer than that, I don’t see the Yankees biting.