Giants Likely To Explore Corey Hart Trade

FRIDAY, 12:50pm: Rosenthal says the Giants aren't ready to act on a trade for Hart (Twitter link). They would prefer a left-handed bat and would rather give up prospects than a major league arm like Jonathan Sanchez.

WEDNESDAY, 8:48pm: Ken Rosenthal of FoxSports.com tweets that the two sides are expected to talk about a possible Hart trade before their series ends tomorrow night. Rosenthal notes that Milwaukee likes Jonathan Sanchez, but it remains to be seen if a deal can be worked out.

TUESDAY, 7:40pm: Updating his initial report, Schulman adds that the Brewers haven't decided yet whether or not they want to move Hart, so talks between the two teams aren't far along.

7:00pm: Andrew Baggarly of the San Jose Mercury News says (via Twitter) that the Brewers will only deal Hart this week if a team overpays. The Giants, who don't seem entirely convinced that Hart would have as much success in their ballpark, probably aren't going to do that. Schulman, meanwhile, tweets that it would likely take "Sanchez-plus" to pry Hart from the Brew Crew.

6:24pm: The Giants could be "focusing on a possible trade" involving Corey Hart, tweets Hank Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle. The Giants were recently reported to have interest in the Brewers' outfielder, and Schulman noted yesterday that the Giants' brass may have been scouting players at the Giants-Brewers game.

Despite Pat Burrell's success in San Francisco so far (.316/.391/.553), the Giants have still been linked to outfield bats, such as David DeJesus and Jose Guillen. Hart would be of particular interest to the Giants, since he's under contract through 2011, and Brian Sabean has said his club would like to avoid merely renting players for a couple months.

When we asked nearly two weeks ago whether the Brewers ought to deal Hart, over half of our poll respondents suggested that trading the 28-year-old would be in Milwaukee's best interest. For their part though, the Brewers aren't eager to hold a fire sale, particularly with players like Hart and Prince Fielder, who are under team control past this season. In a second tweet, Schulman cautions that Hart, in the midst of a potential career year, would not come cheaply for the Giants.


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135 Comments on "Giants Likely To Explore Corey Hart Trade"


HummBaby
5 years 1 month ago

Tommy T just mentioned this on KNBR to Jon Miller. We’ll see what comes of it. Again, just a rumor at this point.

jmag043
5 years 1 month ago

Corey Hart for Madison Bumgarner, and brewers eat remainder of harts 2010 salary.

AisoRed
5 years 1 month ago

I could see that.

55saveslives
5 years 1 month ago

Even after Bumgarner shut you out thru 8? The only way Bumgarner gets traded is if it’s a package for a BIG bat.

AisoRed
5 years 1 month ago

Yes, after Bumgarner shut us out for 8. Face it, you need offense, we need pitching. What do you think you can get for Bumgarner?

55saveslives
5 years 1 month ago

We need hitting but not at the expense of a top 10 prospect in all baseball. Bumgarner straight up wouldn’t land us a monster bat, but Corey Hart is hardly a game changer. He’s having a great year for you guys because Prince and Braun bat behind him so he sees good pitches. We don’t have that caliber 3/4. Plus ATT, Hart’s numbers go down.

5 years 1 month ago

Most of Hart’s at bats have come at the 6th spot in the lineup. He’s had 15 home runs batting 6th and only 3 batting 2nd.

55saveslives
5 years 1 month ago

That makes the deal even worse. Now we are giving up a top 10 prospect for a number six who is only under contract until ’11 whereas Bumgarner who is already living up to the hype is under contract for several more years.

5 years 1 month ago

How on earth does that make the deal worse? Hitting home runs with protection is more valuable than hitting home runs when you don’t see a lot of pitches to hit? Really?

55saveslives
5 years 1 month ago

Ok…play GM for a second. You have a team that has only an outside chance at making the playoffs. A team offers you a nice player (not great, but not a game changer) who’s contract is only through next year. They want in return your BEST pitching prospect who in his first three game in the show has shown that he belongs and is under team control for the next 6 years….

What do you do?

5 years 1 month ago

I don’t think Hart alone is worth Bumgarner (Fielder might be, but Hart isn’t), but I don’t see how Hart hitting the far majority of his home runs without protection makes the deal worse.

55saveslives
5 years 1 month ago

I thought Hart was your leadoff guy. If someone is hitting 6th, usually means he isn’t as strong, unless you have a Yankee team..
I do like Hart. I just wouldn’t give up anything huge and as reported they want a haul for him. If I were the Brewers, I’d sell high on him as well.

BTW, what is wrong with Braun? He usually owns us!

5 years 1 month ago

Hart is a strong hitter, and the Brewers don’t have a stacked lineup…Ken Macha is just an idiot. It took him almost two months to realize that Carlos Gomez shouldn’t be batting higher in the lineup than Hart.

As for Braun, he’s been in a funk for a while now. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was hiding an injury.

55saveslives
5 years 1 month ago

Macha for Bochy straight up! lol

Our sports writer said we were also scouting Braun. I said Ok Bye Bye Timmy and Posey! :(

magnushanso
5 years 1 month ago

So let me get this straight… The deal is worse because you thought Hart was a “#2″ earlier, but now that you know he was a “#6″ he is worse?

K.

55saveslives
5 years 1 month ago

Read again….I said I thought he was a leadoff hitter. The point is, brewer fans think Hart is worth Bumgarner…NOT TRUE!

magnushanso
5 years 1 month ago

Yeah… I did read again. I don’t mean to be rude, but you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Evaluating hitters based solely on where they bat in the batting order? Completely foolish.

And you are right, Hart is NOT worth Bumgarner at all… Sabean is an idiot though so it could happen.

55saveslives
5 years 1 month ago

The whole topic was them saying Bumgarner for Hart. Anything after doesn’t really matter. But I would take a solid leadoff hitter over a 6 anyday.

magnushanso
5 years 1 month ago

LOL man. I can’t begin to explain how laughably stupid it is to evaluate a player based ONLY on where he bats in the lineup.

55saveslives
5 years 1 month ago

Once again, you are totally missing the point of the conversation, but it doesn’t matter….the trade didn’t happen.

Peace

55saveslives
5 years 1 month ago

The whole topic was them saying Bumgarner for Hart. Anything after doesn’t really matter. But I would take a solid leadoff hitter over a 6 anyday.

55saveslives
5 years 1 month ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

5 years 1 month ago

You have to be Kidding I would’t let Madison go he is going to be awesome and we need him I think we should let Sanchez go, he is very inconsistnet, but they are going to want more then that we should give one of our prospects down on the farm we have a chance now we should get rid of Boche and Sabean while we are at it and Rowand.

Wilsonl
5 years 1 month ago

I see Bumgarner with the potential of Cain..

Wilsonl
5 years 1 month ago

I see Bumgarner with the potential of Cain..

Bye Bye Baby Bonanza
5 years 1 month ago

Wouldn’t trade Bum. Still would like to see the Giants acquire Hart though.

HummBaby
5 years 1 month ago

I love the typo’s in Hank’s tweet.

jmag043
5 years 1 month ago

I bet he’s been tailgating in the Miller Park parking lot…

HummBaby
5 years 1 month ago

LOL, good observation.

rainyperez
5 years 1 month ago

Don’t like the Hart trade I feel he doesn’t have as much up side if we get Prince Fielder. Hart feels like another Rowand waiting to happen…and I would not trade Bumgarner so freely…

HHHDMS
5 years 1 month ago

Hart for Rowand, Renteria , J Sanchez & a AA Prospect…let the chips fall where they may..
I will say trading for a starter is dangerous for the Giants since Lincecum isnt pitching that well as of late..
Sabean has made some crazy trades in the past..hope whatever he does isnt giving away too much

5 years 1 month ago

why on earth would the crew want Rowand or Renteria?!

Crew13
5 years 1 month ago

Thank you, I agree one hundred percent

5 years 1 month ago

Sanchez didn’t do himself any favors in Milwaukee this week – throwing 114+ in 5 innings of work with a handful of walks and more than one wild pitch thrown in.

Million dollar arm or not, the guy has fifty cent control.

Wilsonl
5 years 1 month ago

Giant’s will have to give up BIG players for Fielder then.. possibly Sandoval..

Wilsonl
5 years 1 month ago

Giant’s will have to give up BIG players for Fielder then.. possibly Sandoval..

blackandorangepride
5 years 1 month ago

no Sabean you idiot why are you getting Hart, Fielder is available get him not Hart

5 years 1 month ago

the giants already have an over weight corner infielder

blackandorangepride
5 years 1 month ago

so? if we get Fielder we’ll have at least another 30 homeruns I can deal with a heavy infield if they play well

melonis_rex
5 years 1 month ago

He’s a little too young for Sabean, isn’t he.

5 years 1 month ago

LOL come on that joke is a little old at least he got rid of Bengie to give Buster Posey the everyday catchers job

5 years 1 month ago

LOL come on that joke is a little old at least he got rid of Bengie to give Buster Posey the everyday catchers job

jmag043
5 years 1 month ago

Even at his worst Hart posts an OPS+ around 100 with 20-25 steal potential. Its not like this seasons power is some sort of aberration, Hart has always had 25hr power, hes just been seeing the ball well.

5 years 1 month ago

Hart won’t have 25 HR power (1) at AT&T Park and (2) without the protection of Fielder and Braun.

Sage
5 years 1 month ago

People think Hart’s season is because of Miller Park. Hart’s road OPS is .885, which is great than the OPS of any Giants player other than Huff (.889). He may lose some power at AT&T Park, but he will still hit for average, and he’ll add some speed to the lineup.

5 years 1 month ago

The Giants need power and plate discipline, not average and speed. Hart’s OPS was .759 in 2008 and .753 in 2009. It all stinks of Rowand Part Deux. Sabean needs to not trade for a questionable player whose trade value is at its apex.

Sage
5 years 1 month ago

I’m about to make a generalization here…

Most Giants fans will say “we need power in our lineup.” Then, anytime there are rumors about the Giants trading for a power bat, most Giants fans will say “oh, but he won’t hit for power at AT&T.” I just wonder if you guys could make up your minds…

I think Hart would hit very well in AT&T Park, also, he has great power, he really does. He’s the type of player that can hit a home run to any part of the field. To the people thinking Prince would be better at AT&T than Hart, you know as well as I do that Prince is a dead pull hitter. He’ll be taking home run hacks trying to hit the ball into the cove every time, and that will make him less successful.

gigantes2425
5 years 1 month ago

as a left handed hitter the only way you’re going to get a ball out is as a pull hitter. fielder would flourish at at&t park.

5 years 1 month ago

Comparing Fielder to Hart in terms of power is pretty silly. My point is that, given the opportunity to obtain either of them, I far prefer Fielder, who–even in an off year–should hit 30. Hart is having a breakout season, but the Giants are far too prone to acquiring guys at their apex. Fielder, two years younger than Hart, has hit 28+ HRs four times, whereas Hart’s power declined from 2007-2009. I’m sorry – why are we having this conversation again?

blackandorangepride
5 years 1 month ago

Fielder has indeed flourished in AT&T with an opposite field jack and a water shot thats why we want him more than Hart

Will32
5 years 1 month ago

Hart Tanner, Joaquin, Kieschnick

Wilsonl
5 years 1 month ago

Good trade but I see Kieschnick as a potential All-Star.. he’s just like Thomas Neal..

Will32
5 years 1 month ago

Well from what I hear Kieschnick is a grip it and rip it guy. Neal is a better all round hitter.

Will32
5 years 1 month ago

Well from what I hear Kieschnick is a grip it and rip it guy. Neal is a better all round hitter.

Wilsonl
5 years 1 month ago

Good trade but I see Kieschnick as a potential All-Star.. he’s just like Thomas Neal..

5 years 1 month ago

if you’re the giants, would you rather give up sanchez for hart or cain for fielder?

Redbirds16
5 years 1 month ago

unfortunately, neither of those trades straight up would be acceptable to the Brewers.

blackandorangepride
5 years 1 month ago

we don’t need to trade Cain, we could trade Sanchez along with other prospects for Fielder. We could still get Fielder without giving up Cain and also no offense to Hart but he looks like another Aaron Rowand because his numbers will go down at AT&T like his did. Fielder is a proven hitter and he hits well in AT&T park luckily Giants management is realizing that they should put all their effort in getting Fielder and no one else.

5 years 1 month ago

where did you hear that fielder can be had without including cain? the beat writers for both teams as well as an interview with melvin indicate differently. no doubt, if fielder can be traded with a package deal including sanchez, that’s the move to make

blackandorangepride
5 years 1 month ago

as of late Sanchez has been pitching better than Cain but as inconsistent as Sanchez can be he fits better at Miller Park than Cain does because he’s a strikeout pitcher and gets grounders whereas Cain gets flyballs and at Miller Park flyballs will leave. Sanchez even on bad days can get at least 5 K’s plus Sanchez also has bad luck he’s the only guy I know of who lost a 1 hitter and the hit wasn’t a homerun but we’ll see what happens If I’m the brewers I’d get either Bumgarner or Sanchez cuz both are strikeout pitchers in that park flyball pitchers don’t work out well

Yankees420
5 years 1 month ago

I’m not usually one to point out grammar mistakes, but it is extremely difficult to read a comment of that length with only one period in it.

5 years 1 month ago

The Brewers don’t even want Cain in this trade scenario, they want to add cost controlled pitching near the MLB level. Both players contracts are up at the same time, it just doesn’t make sense for either team. Also the Crew could have had Sanchez in a Hardy deal last year and didn’t take it. There is only one player on the Giants that matches up with what the Brewers are looking for and I highly doubt he gets traded for Hart.

5 years 1 month ago

Since when could the brewers have had Sanchez for Hardy? So they didn’t want a lefty pitcher who strikes guys out but they wanted an all glove no bat CF.

Sage
5 years 1 month ago

The idea was eliminating payroll. Hardy was making something like $6 million, and Gomez is only making $1 million. With the acquisition of Gomez, we were able to let Mike Cameron and his $10 million salary leave, allowing us to sign Randy Wolf. The Brewers liked this thought better than getting Sanchez, apparently.

5 years 1 month ago

I didn’t say straight up, but there were talks about a deal ( I believe it was during the winter meetings) before Sanchez threw the no hitter. At that time Melvin said he didn’t like the offers on the table. Sanchez would have been 2 offseasons ago not last year when the trade for Gomez happened.Also they already have 3 lefties in the rotation and a guy exactly like Sanchez in Manny Parra in their rotation.

I haven’t found the artlcle stating Hardy for Sanchez in a 10 minute search but I did find this one that describes how low his value was only 13 months ago, the Giants were thinking of doing a swap for Hank Blalock.

link to mlbtraderumors.com

Crew13
5 years 1 month ago

The only way the giants get fielder without Cain is giving up sanchez and bumgardner

jmag043
5 years 1 month ago

Even then its not enough

5 years 1 month ago

Rowand is on the wrong side of 30. His numbers would go down anywhere. In 38 at bats Hart has a .834 ops at AT&T Park.

Hubbs2
5 years 1 month ago

I wouldnt trade Sanchez OR Bumgarner for Fielder OR Hart. Fielder is about to get very expensive and just like his daddy is going to age terribly, besides, does anybody notice Aubrey Huff is having a better year anyways. Hart is much like Rowand in that he is very hack happy and will not walk, just like every other player on the Giants. I’d love to see Braun on the team, but he would cost the farm, but frankly, the Giants are not one hitter away from being a contender so it would not be worth it anyway

5 years 1 month ago

padres need Corey Hart

5 years 1 month ago

hart looks the offspring of a caveman and a redneck. he is one ugly dude.

5 years 1 month ago

I hope not…

Will32
5 years 1 month ago

Please dont do it!! He wont hit in AT&T. He’ll just be another Aaron Rowand. Stand pat up till the deadline. If we’re within 5 games of San Diego, then make a trade. If not, dont make any moves, hope for the best and wait till the offseason to make moves.

Sf_415Giantsbaby
5 years 1 month ago

I’m starting to get real nervous now… We don’t need Corey Rowand-Hart!
If we are going to get a bat, go all out & get prince. Not these same old 2nd option cats!

I DONT KNOW ABOUT MY OTHER FELLOW SF FANS, BUT IM TIRED OF HAVING OUR GAMES FEEL LIKE IM WATCHING THE WORLD CUP!!!!

tommyjesus
5 years 1 month ago

Bumgarner should be untouchable in most trade talks. The guy has ace potential; you don’t trade a 20 year old with ace upside for a MARGINAL improvement like Hart. Hart at AT&T WILL hit for LESS power, that’s guaranteed. He’ll be a nice piece in the Giants lineup, but he isn’t a game changer.

Yankees420
5 years 1 month ago

Did anyone else notice the unusually high number of people claiming that Hart is just like Rowand? And a lot of those comments would then suggest to go after Prince instead…..weird.

blackandorangepride
5 years 1 month ago

because Fielder’s consistent and proven whereas Hart is in the middle of likely a career year(in a hitter’s park) and his career numbers show he isn’t good at getting on base but Fielder is. When we got Rowand he came off a career year with a .309 and 27 homeruns in a hitters park and like Hart he doesn’t have enough patience at the plate. I’d rather get someone who I know will have the power, the plate discipline to play for us and hit in AT&T, Prince Fielder is that Bat.

Yankees420
5 years 1 month ago

I understand the comparison, I was just pointing out that in this comments section there was a very high number of different posters making said comparison. Just something that was odd to me.

Yankees420
5 years 1 month ago

I understand the comparison, I was just pointing out that in this comments section there was a very high number of different posters making said comparison. Just something that was odd to me.

5 years 1 month ago

When a player has a year that goes against his career stats, never place value on said players on that year. This will come back to haunt you more often than naught. And the last thing the Giants need is to make this mistake yet again.

blackandorangepride
5 years 1 month ago

thank you Chris

ThePaulCrew
5 years 1 month ago

People just show how dumb they are when they talk about Prince Fielder not aging well.. do you think he is suddenly gonna drop off at 28 and just stop hitting homeruns? I mean worst case scenario, his skill drops off around 32 or 33. That means he will easily be a threat for another 6 years. Whoever signs fielder in a year and a half is gonna do so for about 5 years which should be plenty safe.

Neither Hart or Fielder are going to get traded unless they get offered you MLB or MLB ready pitching. If you think the Brewers are gonna let either of those guys (regardless of how streaky hart is) for anything less than a middle of the rotation arm, you have no clue what yur talking about. The Brewers don’t HAVE to trade either of these guys. They have them both locked up for another year and have plenty of time to trade. Although it would be nice to move Hart before his arby hearing in the offseason.

lionofsenate
5 years 1 month ago

So true. People have been beating the “won’t age well drum” since probably he wasn’t drafted by the A’s in Moneyball. I agree with these critics. They will eventually be right………….. after Prince surpasses 500 HR.

Sure he may very well fall apart sooner than most. But it is silly to beat this drum now when he is 27. He will probably run into “age” issues after at least 4-5 more excellent seasons with the bat, at the soonest.