Giants Not Making Progress With Brewers

The Giants are still actively looking for an impact bat, but discussions about Brewers sluggers Corey Hart and Prince Fielder are "dead in the water," according to Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle.  That's not a surprise, since Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reported on Twitter that the Brewers plan to hold off on trades until tomorrow at the earliest. Hart has an injured right wrist, so the Brewers aren't likely to deal him until he proves his ability to hit.

Injuries to Hart and David DeJesus have not derailed the Giants' search for a bat. They have been connected to Jose Guillen, Josh Willingham, Scott Podsednik and Adam Dunn in the last 24 hours.  The asking price for Dunn?  Madison Bumgarner, says Schulman. 

GM Brian Sabean is also interested in adding relief help, though the market is tough at this point.  Schulman says the Giants are "investigating" Seattle's Brandon League.


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45 Comments on "Giants Not Making Progress With Brewers"


5 years 1 month ago

Just don’t do anything stupid Sabean

iains
5 years 1 month ago

What? Like give away an outfielder?

GiantsWSchamps2010
5 years 1 month ago

I say they just go after Willingham and if they can’t get him then they need to focus on the bullpen. With Huff and Posey in the middle they aren’t in as desperate need for a bat as they where last year.

EdinsonPickle
5 years 1 month ago

I like that idea. It wouldn’t take TOO much to get Willingham, and I don’t want to see the Giants get rid of any of that young pitching. Lincecum, Cain, Zito, Sanchez, and Bumgarner make up what is one of my favorite rotations and I don’t want to see them send off Sanchez, Bumgarner, or minor league prospects like Wheeler for Fielder or even Hart.

5 years 1 month ago

No one like Garko, no trading of the best rotation in NL.

5 years 1 month ago

Especially if Ish keeps hitting and Sandy starts

TheReturnOfMrBlanks
5 years 1 month ago

Sounds great … says a Padres fan lol

blackandorangepride
5 years 1 month ago

I hope it’s Fielder and not Hart he’s after

5 years 1 month ago

Teah Hart wont hit many at ATT and has injury.

SixtoLezcano
5 years 1 month ago

Good news for the Brewers. Giants can keep Jonathan Sanchez, we don’t want him.

5 years 1 month ago

Well actually I think the Brewers do. I saw on here like a week or two ago that the Brewers had offered Hart for Sanchez or Bumgarner. There is a chance that these insiders were wrong on it but probably weren’t considering the Brewers desperately need pitching. You may not want him as a fan but that doesn’t mean that the organization doesn’t want him.

5 years 1 month ago

Better than Capauno, he doesnt realize with stuff he doesnt need to nibble thats why a lot of walks and pitch count.

AisoRed
5 years 1 month ago

That’s why it’s a rumor site. Doubt they would have done that trade unless it’s for Bumgarner.

Ageezy
5 years 1 month ago

Just so you know, in MKE it was reported as JS and a top prospect, or MB.

5 years 1 month ago

I didn’t know that that was reported there. All I knew was what was reported on here. I think either way its too much for the Giants to give up. I would do a Sanchez and a B prospect for Hart but no more if I was Sabean.

gmenfan
5 years 1 month ago

Yeah, with all that pitching talent you have, I could see why you wouldn’t want another arm. Oh, yeah, wait …

SixtoLezcano
5 years 1 month ago

Stockpiling mediocre arms doesn’t solve the problem. Is that you, Doug Melvin?

gmenfan
5 years 1 month ago

Good point considering that the Brewers starting rotation, short of Gallardo, is sub-mediocre.

5 years 1 month ago

For crying out loud. Stop tip-toe’ing around Jose Guillen, Sabean. Just take him. Who cares what we get in return.

It’s basically a trade of Guillen and the $ we owe him to you guys for like…anything. But it gets Kila Ka’ahuie into KC, which is a trade in itself the Royals are GUARANTEED to win.

RBomb2844
5 years 1 month ago

I wish you were right, but we know Dayton Moore. If Guillen goes, he will go out and trade for somebody like Jeff Franceour. Kila will not be here until next year and even then I think that is a stretch.

55saveslives
5 years 1 month ago

Dislike!

B DominateD
5 years 1 month ago

He’ll probably make this trade cuz he’s a flippin moron…worst trade deadline GM in baseball..

Shaneomac82
5 years 1 month ago

If Sabean gets Willingham, I don’t think he will ever be critized again.

5 years 1 month ago

The Giants need a big bat like Fielder. Going after these other clowns is stupid. If you want to win, you need to acquire a big name power hitter like Fielder. Willingham and Guillen aren’t much better than what we already have. You don’t want a #4 power hitter bat because you don’t want to trade your #5 starter? LOL. Prospects are replaceable. You don’t get a chance to acquire a guy like Fielder very often. Lincecum, Cain, Zito, Sanchez and anyone at #5 is plenty good to go to the series if you put Fielder in the middle of our lineup.

5 years 1 month ago

Yeah but this prospect may not be replaceable. He is only 20 and has the ability to possible be a #1 pitcher down the road. And with Zito coming back down to earth and Lincecum not having his normal tremendous year they need pitching as well and trading either Bumgarner or Sanchez would probably make things worse for them IMO. They do need offense but it’s been proven many times that pitching and defense win championships, if they add Willingham their offense should be good enough to win if they get pitching out of their pitchers like they are capable of doing. And just one more thing it makes even less sense to trade Bumgarner when many people worry that he is going to be a a Tommy John surgery candidate at some point in his career whether sooner or later with his delivery and mechanics being so herky-jerky. Oh and people also worry about how Prince Fielder is going to hold up down the line because he is too big. So it may not be smart to trade for him.

5 years 1 month ago

Font want another Garko, what about Bum, actually pitching better than Strasburg, goes deeper into the game.

B DominateD
5 years 1 month ago

Willingham is worth it..the guy carries a 400 OBP..thats 130 points better than his avg..and his got a 30 homerun type of bat…….Guillen however is a POS egotistical douchebag who should be removed from the game alongside Milton Bradley..they don’t deserve the millions they make….I’d give up a Sanchez or Wheeler & Neal for Willingham…all three for Fielder..

Guest
5 years 1 month ago

Sorry, but there’s no reason for the Giants to give up a 20 year-old lefthanded starter like Madison Bumgarner for Prince Fielder for another year or so.

5 years 1 month ago

The Cubs were saying the same thing about Prior and Wood. Now is the time to win. A #5 starter won’t help you win this year. Sure he could be a #1 down the road, but that mean Lincecum and Cain are gone, so we won’t be winning then either.

5 years 1 month ago

True Bum is also sothpaw which is a good thing to have.

bobbybaseball
5 years 1 month ago

Instead of moving true talents like Fielder, why aren’t the Brewers talking about McGehee, who is about as good as he’ll ever be, and was acquired off waivers so anything they get for him would be gravy?

5 years 1 month ago

Because McGehee isn’t going to make about 11 or 12 million in arbitration next year and also McGehee couldn’t bring in that much because I think teams realize this is the best that he will ever be.

AisoRed
5 years 1 month ago

Yeah because everyone knows this is the best he will be.

5 years 1 month ago

With an NL-leading 108 GIDPs, the Giants should focus on acquiring a player with decent speed. And with Juan Uribe and Edgar Renteria struggling at the plate as well as in the field, why not trade for D-backs’ SS Stephen Drew? He’s got more range at short by himself than if both Uribe and Renteria were playing the position together. At 5.4 runs per game since July 1, the Giants are doing fine scoring runs, but staying out of the DP and getting the runner at third home with less than two outs has been a problem all season long. Plus, he wouldn’t cost as much as Prince Fielder either.

55saveslives
5 years 1 month ago

That would probably be Podsednik then

5 years 1 month ago

Looks like its going to be Scott Podsednik to the Giants.

Royals and Giants had already agreed on prospects for DDJ so Dave Price thinks the deal should come together quickly.

gmenfan
5 years 1 month ago

Not really the power bat they have been looking for but a solid player none the less. He’d likely come cheap as well.

letsgogiants
5 years 1 month ago

What prospects did they agree on? I never heard anything about that. I only heard that the Giants were having deep talks with the Royals about him.

GiantsnextGM
5 years 1 month ago

sabean get Fielder hes just wat we need . idn where u put him in the lineup but id love to see huff posey n Fielder in the same line up

P_O_R_Q_U_E
5 years 1 month ago

Sorry but as much as I like Bumgarner, we have a surplus of pitching and a lack of offense/power in a year where the division is very much within reach. Fielder is one of the great power hitters in the game and seems to be really starting to turn it on.

You have to give up value to get value. As I said I love MB but when you need offense/power like we do I think it’s a no brainer to give up the promising rookie SP and get the (as close to as possible) sure-thing hitter. As someone mentioned previously, pitchers are too risky to count on over the long-term, and though MB may end up being injury-free and amazing, we could have Prince Fielder for our pennant run this year.

I just think some people are seriously undervaluing Fielder. I mean, this is a guy who plays a position where it’s almost impossible to hurt a team defensively, combined with (compared to career) Pujols like numbers at best (last year), or Texiera like numbers at worst (2008). And even if everything goes wrong we can still flip him at the deadline next year and recover a prospect or two.

But other than Fielder, no thanks. Hart is suspicious and hurt and the rest just aren’t really an upgrade. Dunn is interesting depending on the asking price, but Sanchez is way too much for a rental player.

5 years 1 month ago

Fielder and lorenzo cain for joe martinez, ishikawa and bumgarner

ramiro magana
5 years 1 month ago

Sabean you are interested in Guillen, Posednik,Willingham and Hart?? You are a fukin idiot…

B DominateD
5 years 1 month ago

Willingham or Fielder….Corey hart is a fraud having a career year in a bandbox just like Rowand, fool yourself once shame on you, fool yourself twice the fans should get to pelt you in the face with rocks…JSanchez, Wheeler, Neal for Fielder

or

Wheeler/Neal for Willingham

5 years 1 month ago

Get Rowand off the roster. I dont think that he is okay with being a backup to Torres. him for Podsednik. But his salery is too big. Fielder is the power bat we need. Willingham and Hart are 2 guys the Giants need to stay away from. They both remind me of Rowand in his last year in Philly. Wellemeyer is getting healthy, and that meens we could trade Sanchez, Pill, and Wheeler.
But what do I know.

LSekhmet
5 years 1 month ago

Hart has major power, too — maybe not as much as Fielder, but big-time power. Don’t let the fact he plays in Miller Park fool you — he’s extremely capable of belting out HRs in any park, and he’s also a very fast guy who can steal 20 bases or maybe even 30 on a go-go running team. The Giants haven’t had a guy like that (with the HR/SB together) since Barry Bonds was in his prime and could still run (he never lost his hitting stroke, granted).

That being said, I’m a Brewers fan and I want him to stay with us. I know Fielder will be leaving sooner or later, so even though I really like Fielder I think I can accept him being traded for a good quality, albeit young, pitcher like Bumgarner. But Hart — he’s coming into his own, and I think the Brewers can sign him long-term if they just get over the fact he won his arbitration case earlier this year. I don’t care how long a memory Doug Melvin has for this sort of thing — forget about it, and sign Hart to a long-term deal _now_.