Poll: Colby Rasmus

Earlier today, Cardinals manager Tony La Russa confirmed that Colby Rasmus requested a trade earlier this season.  While La Russa seems confident that Rasmus' desire to be relocated has since cooled off, the 24-year-old was reluctant to address the story and would not say whether he wanted to return to St. Louis in 2011.  This also isn't the first time that the talented center fielder has asked for a one-way ticket out of town: La Russa acknowledged that Rasmus requested a trade in his rookie year last season.

With what appears to be a serious rift, one would imagine that the Cards would look to deal their unhappy outfielder.  However, GM John Mozeliak is obviously less-than-thrilled about the prospect of parting with a 24-year-old star in the making.  Rasmus has followed up a strong 2009 debut with an even better 2010.  In 117 games, the left-handed hitter has a slash line of .264/.349/.495 with 19 homers.  While his -7.0 UZR/150 this season doesn't impress, his 13.5 UZR/150 from his rookie campaign shows that he is capable of playing better in the field.

There's no question that Rasmus would yield a strong return for the Cardinals, but St. Louis would obviously prefer to keep the burgeoning hitter.  With his dissatisfaction now public, it may not be advantageous for the Cardinals to move him this offseason.  Albert Pujols says he should go, Tony La Russa won't say much, but we want to know what you have to say.

If you were in the position of GM John Mozeliak, would you trade Rasmus this offseason?

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161 Comments on "Poll: Colby Rasmus"


4 years 10 months ago

Get rid of the 65-year-old manager, or the 24-year-old player.

Hmmmmm. What a TOUGH decision.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

TLR didn’t do anything. Colby Rasmus is the one who started this drama.

prophetjohn
4 years 10 months ago

care to share your insight?

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

yeah buddy I will. How many good things does TLR have and has done for the city and the team? A world series, a winning team for a decade. He has been one of the best managers in Baseball for a very long time and people are mad at him over this one incident and not at the guy who has less than 300 games played in the Majors? Seriously…Tony La Russa is concerned…Give the guy a break…His team is going through a lot and he’s just donig his best.

prophetjohn
4 years 10 months ago

no, when i said “share your insight,” i was asking you to explain how you knew that rasmus “started this drama.” thanks for your opinion on TLR’s managing credentials, though

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Because when a 24 year old demands a trade and has so little service time among other things, something is wrong….What should TLR be happy with this? Does this put the Cards in 1st place? No.

Ferrariman
4 years 10 months ago

stop saying he is demanding a trade. if he was demanding one, he would be gone already. it was probably more of a request because he is getting a bit annoyed with constantly getting benched for no real reasons.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

You know what I mean. Asked for a trade…Which is still completey unreasonable.

prophetjohn
4 years 10 months ago

something is wrong. i think it’s correct to infer that from this situation. i’m still not seeing where you made the leap that it’s all colby’s fault

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Because the last thing I will ever do is question TLR’s managing skills.

prophetjohn
4 years 10 months ago

formal logic refers to this fallacy as “argumentum ad verecundiam” or “appeal to authority.” feel free to read about it

link to en.wikipedia.org

the thing is, a lot of people aren’t willing to hail tony as some sort of saint because he’s had the good fortune of managing a bunch of really good teams. and even if we are going on team success to judge him as a manager, how’s this season look on his resume? the most recent results are more statistically significant and tony was handed an incredibly talented team, one hailed as a juggernaut going into the season. so far, they’ve played sub-.500 ball for all but one month. perhaps you should question TLR’s managing skills

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

I didn’t anything you said in the 1st paragraph…But I’d question J Moz for not putting together a better bench or drafting better.

prophetjohn
4 years 10 months ago

mozeliak has been in charge for 3 years and his last two drafts have been exceptional. i think that’s more of a credit to jeff luhnow, though. not that they’ve been in control long enough for their drafts to reasonably have any effect

and how, exactly, is the bench the problem? it’s a team with 4 super stars, the rookie of the year and a bunch of pretty good players. over half the team underperformed. it’s either on all the players or the manager. the GM did what he could

prophetjohn
4 years 10 months ago

mozeliak has been in charge for 3 years and his last two drafts have been exceptional. i think that’s more of a credit to jeff luhnow, though. not that they’ve been in control long enough for their drafts to reasonably have any effect

and how, exactly, is the bench the problem? it’s a team with 4 super stars, the rookie of the year and a bunch of pretty good players. over half the team underperformed. it’s either on all the players or the manager. the GM did what he could

prophetjohn
4 years 10 months ago

mozeliak has been in charge for 3 years and his last two drafts have been exceptional. i think that’s more of a credit to jeff luhnow, though. not that they’ve been in control long enough for their drafts to reasonably have any effect

and how, exactly, is the bench the problem? it’s a team with 4 super stars, the rookie of the year and a bunch of pretty good players. over half the team underperformed. it’s either on all the players or the manager. the GM did what he could

prophetjohn
4 years 10 months ago

and if you didn’t (understand?) anything i said in the first paragraph, click on the link. that’s why i put it there

prophetjohn
4 years 10 months ago

and if you didn’t (understand?) anything i said in the first paragraph, click on the link. that’s why i put it there

prophetjohn
4 years 10 months ago

and if you didn’t (understand?) anything i said in the first paragraph, click on the link. that’s why i put it there

markjsunz
4 years 10 months ago

LaRussa is the boss if this 24 year old kid has a problem he is going to sit on the bench until he grows up and shuts his mouth.The cardinals will call the shots, not Ramus. Any manager gets more credit then they deserve when they win, and in most cases will take the blame when they lose. LaRussa offers a lot to the Cardinals orginization, and to the the city of St. Louis.If this kid has a gripe it should have been handled one on one in the managers office.

prophetjohn
4 years 10 months ago

i agree with that last sentence. and who do we see running their mouths in the media about it? tony and (unfortunately) albert. colby refuses to discuss it

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Yeah well Markjunz is right whether you post 1000 links or not. Tony is rightfully frustrated. Colby has no authority in this situation and yeah, TLR is the boss. The bawsss.

prophetjohn
4 years 10 months ago

and so he’s automatically infallible because he’s in a position of authority?

jdub220
4 years 10 months ago

I LOL’d.

Yanks48
4 years 10 months ago

nice arguement XD

Yanks48
4 years 10 months ago

nice arguement XD

Yanks48
4 years 10 months ago

nice arguement XD

prophetjohn
4 years 10 months ago

and so he’s automatically infallible because he’s in a position of authority?

prophetjohn
4 years 10 months ago

and so he’s automatically infallible because he’s in a position of authority?

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Yeah well Markjunz is right whether you post 1000 links or not. Tony is rightfully frustrated. Colby has no authority in this situation and yeah, TLR is the boss. The bawsss.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Yeah well Markjunz is right whether you post 1000 links or not. Tony is rightfully frustrated. Colby has no authority in this situation and yeah, TLR is the boss. The bawsss.

prophetjohn
4 years 10 months ago

i agree with that last sentence. and who do we see running their mouths in the media about it? tony and (unfortunately) albert. colby refuses to discuss it

prophetjohn
4 years 10 months ago

i agree with that last sentence. and who do we see running their mouths in the media about it? tony and (unfortunately) albert. colby refuses to discuss it

markjsunz
4 years 10 months ago

LaRussa is the boss if this 24 year old kid has a problem he is going to sit on the bench until he grows up and shuts his mouth.The cardinals will call the shots, not Ramus. Any manager gets more credit then they deserve when they win, and in most cases will take the blame when they lose. LaRussa offers a lot to the Cardinals orginization, and to the the city of St. Louis.If this kid has a gripe it should have been handled one on one in the managers office.

markjsunz
4 years 10 months ago

LaRussa is the boss if this 24 year old kid has a problem he is going to sit on the bench until he grows up and shuts his mouth.The cardinals will call the shots, not Ramus. Any manager gets more credit then they deserve when they win, and in most cases will take the blame when they lose. LaRussa offers a lot to the Cardinals orginization, and to the the city of St. Louis.If this kid has a gripe it should have been handled one on one in the managers office.

$1639238
4 years 10 months ago

Not true. LaRussa made it public and keeps barking about it in public. Rasmus has never said anything publicly about to backup Randy Winn.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Think about everything TLR has done for STL and then think about what Colby is doing and saying.

Guest
4 years 10 months ago

LOL.. what?

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

You heard me….How good have the Cardinals been since he took over? very good. And people are complaing about this one thing. Give me a break.

Guest
4 years 10 months ago

Benching you third best player while trying to win games is great for winning baseball.

Everyone hears you.

Ferrariman
4 years 10 months ago

yeah because its really hard to have successful teams when you get to manage Albert pujols, jim edmonds, scott rolen, chris carpenter, and edgar renteria in their primes and have supporting casts of guys like larry walker, reggie sanders, yadier molina, mike matheny, jason isringhauesen, woody williams, etc. honestly, if he didn’t have success with that talent, its a shame.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Right…TLR has had nothing to do with success ever. Congratuliatnds Ferriman.

4 years 10 months ago

He’s not exactly doing especially well this year. Look what happens as soon as you remove a vastly talented core of players and leave him with just a few good guys. Rasmus is tons more valuable to that team than TLR right now.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Doesn’t matter. STL is a winning enviorment and things like this and keeping people like this around will not help keeping Albert at all.

Ferrariman
4 years 10 months ago

i didn’t say that at all did i? you originally made it sound like he WAS the reason the cards had a great run of success in the early 2000s when thats not the case. it was the players, and i stand by that. in fact, i still think its the players fault that were not doing tood this season, and i stand by that. But tony definitely isn’t helping his cause the past 3 seasons, and i’ve been pretty consistent with this the whole time so don’t try putting words in my mouth bro.

BaseballFanatic0707
4 years 10 months ago

You argue poorly. The rest of the comments responding to yours cover everything. Tony hasn’t done much for St. Louis. Yes, I’m aware they won it all in 06. But it wasn’t because of Tony.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Okay…Well I say he was a part to do with it and If I were you Cardinals fans, I wouldn’t get mad over one of the best managers In Baseball history. This is a guy that almost every other MLB team would love to have. I’m sorry if Nick Stavinoha is playing over Rasmus…If the Cardinals were closer to the Reds in the standings I bet things would be different. And on saturday, travis Wood who eats up lefties was pitching. Rasmus hits 250 against lefties and maybe it was time for a day off since he’s been struggling.

BaseballFanatic0707
4 years 10 months ago

I’m not a Cards fan, dude =P

BaseballFanatic0707
4 years 10 months ago

I’m not a Cards fan, dude =P

BaseballFanatic0707
4 years 10 months ago

I’m not a Cards fan, dude =P

prophetjohn
4 years 10 months ago

what’s colby saying besides, “i’m not going to talk about it”?

4 years 10 months ago

GET OFF MY FRONT PORCH PUNK

Ferrariman
4 years 10 months ago

really? i didn’t know that rasmus was the one that fills out the lineup cards and makes up phantom injures and BS reasons on why he shouldn’t play.

Guest
4 years 10 months ago

What you talking about? Randy Winn owns Rasmus.

Ferrariman
4 years 10 months ago

your right lol what was i thinking. of course i’d rather play the 37 year old randy winn who can’t do anything well anymore compared to the 5-tool budding star like rasmus.

makes perfect sense, atleast thats probably TLR’s logic.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

You know I have a ton of respect for you…But you are overlooking everything TLR has done for the Cards…Think about that and then think about Colby who is barley not a rookie and is slugging almost nothing over the past two or three weeks who is demanding a trade.

Ferrariman
4 years 10 months ago

1. Tony has hurt this team quite a bit the past several seasons with his antics. watch some cardinal games and you’ll see what i mean. for example on saturday, crucial game against the cincy reds, and tony benches 3 regulars in favor of guys like aaron miles and nick stavinoha.2. i’m not overlooking anything. its a disgruntled young player who is having a hard time getting on the same plane as tony la russa and would like a fair opportunity to establish himself but constantly gets platooned for inferior players like nick stavinoha and randy winn. 3. he’s a streaky hitter, even with a skid the past week, he still is OPSing around .850. as a centerfielder no less, still 3rd in the NL centerfielders in that department. thank you.

4. he requested a trade a long time ago in the season. this is something that probably doesn’t even hold water anymore that is being re-kindled for really no apparent reason.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Well Pardon me, but Maybe if the Cardinals had a better bench (which is something that people knew wasn’t good at the begining of the season) things would be different. How many teams have a world series over the past decade? 10. Thats 1/3 of MLB teams and Tony La Russa got them one. Be happy. And people should understand that TLR has done great things for the Cards. I watch the Cardinals all the time and I can tell you this…When a team is in the frustrating situation that they are in…I don’t blame TLR for having a rough time…But people make mistakes. Rasmus whether he asked for a trade now, 5 months ago, or in 5 months, it doesn’t make things okay on his part. Just pretty stupid and Albert is right.

Guest
4 years 10 months ago

19 abs since the 17th of august. NICE!

sacu
4 years 10 months ago

I kinda see where you’re coming from, however, just because TLR has done a lot for STL, OAK and baseball in general; does not mean he doesn’t mess up once in a while. I’m not trying to prove you wrong nor am I trying to be right. All I’m saying is that maybe TLR is wrong this time. That would be akin to saying that parents never make the wrong decisions for/with their children. Hope this helps you see it through the eyes of everyone else on here.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Okay I’ll settle for that…but some of these guys are saying he’s done a horrible job during his STL tenure…

Ferrariman
4 years 10 months ago

so now your saying i think he’s done a horrible job? thats not the truth at all bro.

you posts: “think of all the great things TLR has done for the cardinals”

my posts: ” its not as great as you think, he’s had a lot to work with”

your posts: ” well that settles it, you think he’s done a horrible job”

when thats not how i feel at all. he has done a pretty good job, but not great and definitely not someone i would think twice of letting go after how far the team has slipped the past 3 years.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Well what I meant was you guys think he hasn’t done a good job…And the Cardinals wouldn’t be as good without TLR…Come on man!!!! Cardinals fans would be devistated if they were in the process of a managerial search and I bet if you guys were in 1st place this season you wouldn’t be saying that you’d not think twice about letting him go.

Ferrariman
4 years 10 months ago

actually ive been hoping tony would leave every season since 2006. including last year when we were in first place. and i do think we would have had a lot of success without tony, hell maybe more because it was because of him (and somewhat tony’s minion-albert) that we traded rolen.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

I hear ya. I just think that in this situation, people are cutting Colby too much slack, which is the point I’ve been riding the whole time.

4 years 9 months ago

What has Colby done other than respectfully requested a trade behind closed doors? If he’s not happy with the situation surely he should be able to do so. He hasn’t undermined anyone, he’s just unhappy and wants to deal with the situation.

sacu
4 years 10 months ago

I think what they’re saying is that it’s hard to lose with the club that Tony has, however, the best manager doesn’t always with the World Series. Therefore, I think everybody is at least a little bit right.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

I suppose. Thanks man.

4 years 10 months ago

Yeah, Colby benched himself for an inferior player.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

I don’t know what inferior means.

Guest
4 years 10 months ago
prophetjohn
4 years 10 months ago

wow

sacu
4 years 10 months ago

Hey, let’s give the kid a break. At least he has the b***s to admit he doesn’t know something.

sacu
4 years 10 months ago

Inferior:

Noun: A person lower than another in status or ability.
Adjective: Lower in rank, status, or quality.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Thanks man. I think I’m smarter now!

roberty
4 years 10 months ago

Looks like someone could put together an awesome outfield of outcasts this offseason by trading for Rasmus and Nyjer Morgan.

mrsjohnmiltonrocks
4 years 10 months ago

I want San Diego in on this, like right now!

mrsjohnmiltonrocks
4 years 10 months ago

I want San Diego in on this, like right now!

mrsjohnmiltonrocks
4 years 10 months ago

I want San Diego in on this, like right now!

roberty
4 years 10 months ago

Looks like someone could put together an awesome outfield of outcasts this offseason by trading for Rasmus and Nyjer Morgan.

roberty
4 years 10 months ago

Looks like someone could put together an awesome outfield of outcasts this offseason by trading for Rasmus and Nyjer Morgan.

4 years 10 months ago

i blame glenn beck for this.

4 years 10 months ago

Kemp for rasmus

Guest
4 years 10 months ago

Rasmus for Ethier, La Russa will bench Kemp too.

4 years 10 months ago

I don’t think the dodgers would want that trade. kemp has clearly fallen out of grace in LA and rasmus definitely looks like he will at least be shopped this offseason. I’m not saying that La Russa wouldn’t bench kemp, but maybe a change of scenery for both of these young players will help them be more productive on the field and in the clubhouse

Guest
4 years 10 months ago

The Dodgers wouldn’t do it, you’re right. Anyone sane would do it however.

4 years 10 months ago

I’d do Rasmus for Ethier in a heartbeat.

4 years 10 months ago

Would the Cards even be able to pay Kemp ?

jwsox
4 years 10 months ago

I hope poeple stop saying albert said to get rid of him….alberts comments should be infered as this “if he wants to be here keep him here, if he does not get rid of him” mich like strasburg said about bryce…if colby wants to stay in STL and play with the cards then albert will back hiim up 100% and if he wants out then albert will support that….Colby could help restock the cards system…and might bring a return that will help then next season….but after getting rid of ludwick(FLOP!!!!!!!!) they need a power hitting out fielder like colby

Ferrariman
4 years 10 months ago

i just want to say that Pujol’s comments were taken out of context. he said basically that if rasmus wants to be here, than great, but if he doesn’t, we should find a way to move him. he didn’t flat out say “get rid of him”

InTheKZone
4 years 10 months ago

However, Albert also needs to learn to keep his mouth shut. When TLR is gone, Albert will leave as well.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

he shouldn’t keep his mouth shut. He did the right thing. He has earned the respect and he is the leader of this team. Pshh Albert should keep his mouth shut…Come on man. Seriously.

InTheKZone
4 years 10 months ago

Explain how him making that comment improved the situation. If saying something will not improve the situation, why say it?

InTheKZone
4 years 10 months ago

Explain how him making that comment improved the situation. If saying something will not improve the situation, why say it?

$4555515
4 years 10 months ago

the ironic thing about the pujols comments are that if he was benched in favor of a 37 year old low tier player he’d ask for a trade to

Shamboozle
4 years 10 months ago

What an odd story. Well written, but odd.
Did Rasmus really believe he could change ANYTHING by requesting a trade? Did he believe he would be traded? Wait a few years before demanding anything more than a new bat, kid.

bballstud16
4 years 10 months ago

BJ Upton for Colby Rasmus. Who hangs up first?

Ferrariman
4 years 10 months ago

the cardinals. and they laugh at Andrew Friedman while throwing the phone against the wall.

brstreet9
4 years 10 months ago

If that trade ever went down, Mo needs hung from a flagpole by his underwear.

brstreet9
4 years 10 months ago

If that trade ever went down, Mo needs hung from a flagpole by his underwear.

brstreet9
4 years 10 months ago

If that trade ever went down, Mo needs hung from a flagpole by his underwear.

JonATLBraves
4 years 10 months ago

Trade with the Braves, take our next Wainwright off our hands please… 😉 Still #2 behind Texas trade as worst ever!

Guest
4 years 10 months ago

ATL trades or trades in genera?. Pedro for Delino is still the worst trade ever.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

How about Ernie Brolio for Lou Brock? Bags for Anderson? Lee, Sizemore, and Phillips for Bartolo Colon and Tim Drew…

Guest
4 years 10 months ago

Not close. Pedro Martinez was better than any of them.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Your making Delino seem like nothing. And you are a Dodger fan so you obviously resent that deal. I say Lou Brock was a better player than Pedro was a pitcher and that trade was worse.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Your making Delino seem like nothing. And you are a Dodger fan so you obviously resent that deal. I say Lou Brock was a better player than Pedro was a pitcher and that trade was worse.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Your making Delino seem like nothing. And you are a Dodger fan so you obviously resent that deal. I say Lou Brock was a better player than Pedro was a pitcher and that trade was worse.

brstreet9
4 years 10 months ago

Worse than Brock/Broglio?

brstreet9
4 years 10 months ago

Worse than Brock/Broglio?

brstreet9
4 years 10 months ago

Worse than Brock/Broglio?

bbxxj
4 years 10 months ago

Wainwright was for a one year rental. Rasmus has four years left. Thats a pretty big difference.

JonATLBraves
4 years 10 months ago

Who’s to say that Rasmus doesn’t get benched in favor of McLouth and demand a trade due to Fredi or somebody managing like Bobby next year? Not necessarily a one year rental, but could be a potential Hanley Ramirez headache for Fredi…

Ferrariman
4 years 10 months ago

hanley was benched because he was abusing his playing time by lolly gagging some routine plays. rasmus is getting mad because he deserves more playing time and isn’t getting it. 2 quite opposite scenarios.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

no it’s not.

Ferrariman
4 years 10 months ago

i love that trade so much lol. i’l be glad to rob..err.. i mean acquire Teheran and Minor from you guys :0

bbxxj
4 years 10 months ago

How about Delgado and Beachy? I would give up Minor and a few other lesser prospects for Minor honestly.

bbxxj
4 years 10 months ago

How about Delgado and Beachy? I would give up Minor and a few other lesser prospects for Minor honestly.

brstreet9
4 years 10 months ago

If your Braves have another Wainwright to send up here, you have a deal.

bbxxj
4 years 10 months ago

Arodys Vizcaino’s fastball and hammer curve combo is about as close as you will find to a Wainwright comp in the minors. An ace in the mold of Wainwright is roughly Vizcaino’s projection but he is too far away for it to be super likely that he will reach it, but he has that raw stuff and control of the raw stuff.

bbxxj
4 years 10 months ago

Arodys Vizcaino’s fastball and hammer curve combo is about as close as you will find to a Wainwright comp in the minors. An ace in the mold of Wainwright is roughly Vizcaino’s projection but he is too far away for it to be super likely that he will reach it, but he has that raw stuff and control of the raw stuff.

bbxxj
4 years 10 months ago

Arodys Vizcaino’s fastball and hammer curve combo is about as close as you will find to a Wainwright comp in the minors. An ace in the mold of Wainwright is roughly Vizcaino’s projection but he is too far away for it to be super likely that he will reach it, but he has that raw stuff and control of the raw stuff.

sacu
4 years 10 months ago

Being as A’s fan, I ‘d love STL to trade TLR to Oakland for…Eric Chavez and Bob Geren. I wouldn’t even care if Billy threw in Matt Carson and Gabe Gross.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

I’m an A’s fan too. And seriously though…What about something like Ryan Sweeney, Pedro Figueroa, and Max Stassi for Colby?

Ferrariman
4 years 10 months ago

not one of those guys is a top 50 prospect or a major contributor the big league team. why would you think this is even remotely close? generally your pretty good w/ trades but not this one…

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Well considering things, I’m glad and thank you for the complement. But Stassi is very young…Has tons of upside, and Sweeney is a Baseball player who hits.300 and plays a solid RF. Just saying. But maybe something more along the lines of a package built around either Stephen Parker or Grant Green.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Well considering things, I’m glad and thank you for the complement. But Stassi is very young…Has tons of upside, and Sweeney is a Baseball player who hits.300 and plays a solid RF. Just saying. But maybe something more along the lines of a package built around either Stephen Parker or Grant Green.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Well considering things, I’m glad and thank you for the complement. But Stassi is very young…Has tons of upside, and Sweeney is a Baseball player who hits.300 and plays a solid RF. Just saying. But maybe something more along the lines of a package built around either Stephen Parker or Grant Green.

Jet713
4 years 10 months ago

Colby Rasmus and Mitchell Boggs to Tampa Bay for Matt Garza and Sean Rodriguez.

In an ideal world, the Cards would not entertain trading Rasmus, but if Rasmus is truly unhappy with his place with the Cards it is better for them to move him now while his trade value is still somewhat high.

Matt Garza would be a solid #2 pitcher with the ability to be a #1 in the NL. With the Cards in a salary crunch, unless they can move Matt Holliday and his huge contract, Carpenter is probably gone after 2011, so for 2011, the Cards can march out Carpenter, Wainwright, and Garza and make a serious run at a pennent next year and would receive two high draft picks to help rebuild the team after the almost certain departure of Carpenter.

Rodriguez would be one of those LaRussa players, can play multiple positions (SS/2B/OF), hits close to .300, average power, with plus speed and plus-plus defensive play.

But again, it would still be nice to see Colby in red and white but if he doesn’t want to be, he’ll be shown the door.

brstreet9
4 years 10 months ago

I don’t like giving up Mitchell Boggs. He is potentially the Cards next closer.

brstreet9
4 years 10 months ago

I don’t like giving up Mitchell Boggs. He is potentially the Cards next closer.

brstreet9
4 years 10 months ago

I don’t like giving up Mitchell Boggs. He is potentially the Cards next closer.

Ferrariman
4 years 10 months ago

matt garza doesn’t have that much value to get rasmus. i gurantee that the rays will be outbid if thats all they offer, their won’t any shortage of interest in Rasmus in the offseason. atleast 15 teams would be in on him….. who wouldn’t want a cost conntrolled young centerfielder that has plus speed and OPSing around .850 at age 24.

4 years 10 months ago

Matt Kemp, Jonothan Broxton for Rasmus?

4 years 10 months ago

Matt Kemp, Jonothan Broxton for Rasmus?

4 years 10 months ago

Matt Kemp, Jonothan Broxton for Rasmus?

Ferrariman
4 years 10 months ago

matt garza doesn’t have that much value to get rasmus. i gurantee that the rays will be outbid if thats all they offer, their won’t any shortage of interest in Rasmus in the offseason. atleast 15 teams would be in on him….. who wouldn’t want a cost conntrolled young centerfielder that has plus speed and OPSing around .850 at age 24.

bbxxj
4 years 10 months ago

Whatever happens STL either will end up with a very good Rasmus or a very nice haul of prospects because I can see many teams step into the bidding including teams with great prospects like Texas, Tampa and Atlanta.

Not so crazy three way trade idea:

To STL: Drew (SS) from AZ and Dunn (LH relief prospect) from ATL
To ATL: Rasmus (CF)
To AZ: Delgado (SP ace prospect) plus other top but lesser prospects from ATL and Ryan (SS) from STL

Does that seem fair?

stl_cards16
4 years 10 months ago

No? We get an overrated not very good SS and a relief prospect for one of the young rising stars in the game? hmmmmm no thanks

stl_cards16
4 years 10 months ago

No? We get an overrated not very good SS and a relief prospect for one of the young rising stars in the game? hmmmmm no thanks

stl_cards16
4 years 10 months ago

No? We get an overrated not very good SS and a relief prospect for one of the young rising stars in the game? hmmmmm no thanks

Ferrariman
4 years 10 months ago

what????? a shortstop and a relief pitcher for rasmus? idfc if he held a gun to tony’s head, he isn’t getting traded for that sort of scrap.

Ferrariman
4 years 10 months ago

what????? a shortstop and a relief pitcher for rasmus? idfc if he held a gun to tony’s head, he isn’t getting traded for that sort of scrap.

bbxxj
4 years 10 months ago

If they looks like I offended the STL contingent here. I didn’t realize Steven Drew was such a heap of suck.

bbxxj
4 years 10 months ago

If they looks like I offended the STL contingent here. I didn’t realize Steven Drew was such a heap of suck.

bbxxj
4 years 10 months ago

If they looks like I offended the STL contingent here. I didn’t realize Steven Drew was such a heap of suck.

mrsjohnmiltonrocks
4 years 10 months ago

NO. Atlanta can’t trade Michael Dunn to St. Louis. San Diego is the place for him. Don’t you dare trade him to anyone until you talk to Jed. I mean that. Don’t do it. Please. We want a left Mike to go with our right Mike.

How is it that Atlanta is so stacked in pitching that they left Dunn in the minors anyway? What an awesome problem to have, by the way.

mrsjohnmiltonrocks
4 years 10 months ago

NO. Atlanta can’t trade Michael Dunn to St. Louis. San Diego is the place for him. Don’t you dare trade him to anyone until you talk to Jed. I mean that. Don’t do it. Please. We want a left Mike to go with our right Mike.

How is it that Atlanta is so stacked in pitching that they left Dunn in the minors anyway? What an awesome problem to have, by the way.

mrsjohnmiltonrocks
4 years 10 months ago

NO. Atlanta can’t trade Michael Dunn to St. Louis. San Diego is the place for him. Don’t you dare trade him to anyone until you talk to Jed. I mean that. Don’t do it. Please. We want a left Mike to go with our right Mike.

How is it that Atlanta is so stacked in pitching that they left Dunn in the minors anyway? What an awesome problem to have, by the way.

4 years 10 months ago

Give Arizona Dunn, and I think you need to throw in Teheran and Delgado to STL. Remeber this is Rasmus, one of the top CF that’s going to be a great player. Don’t trade Mike Minor or Vizcaino

4 years 10 months ago

Give Arizona Dunn, and I think you need to throw in Teheran and Delgado to STL. Remeber this is Rasmus, one of the top CF that’s going to be a great player. Don’t trade Mike Minor or Vizcaino

4 years 10 months ago

Give Arizona Dunn, and I think you need to throw in Teheran and Delgado to STL. Remeber this is Rasmus, one of the top CF that’s going to be a great player. Don’t trade Mike Minor or Vizcaino

stl_cards16
4 years 10 months ago

Wasn’t sure where to jump in on the TLR back and forth. But here is my opinion. It is time for him to go. I have said this for the last couple weeks now, not just because of all this coming out. Everyone bashing Colby needs to think about it. He is the one that kept this internal, he didn’t go to the media about it, he handled his problems the right way.

If you watch this team everyday you see that they just aren’t motivated. They play like Larussa acts. They play with no emotion and never have any fun(besides the Cincy series in early August) This team is just flat and boring. TLR used to be able to motivate and put his players in the best situations to succeed. But after so many years you have to start to wonder if his message just doesn’t get through anymore. I have never wanted TLR to leave, but now I believe it is time. Do it this offseason and bring in someone Albert approves of, then get his extension hammered out. Colby stays and we will be ready to get back in the playoff hunt for 2011

stl_cards16
4 years 10 months ago

Wasn’t sure where to jump in on the TLR back and forth. But here is my opinion. It is time for him to go. I have said this for the last couple weeks now, not just because of all this coming out. Everyone bashing Colby needs to think about it. He is the one that kept this internal, he didn’t go to the media about it, he handled his problems the right way.

If you watch this team everyday you see that they just aren’t motivated. They play like Larussa acts. They play with no emotion and never have any fun(besides the Cincy series in early August) This team is just flat and boring. TLR used to be able to motivate and put his players in the best situations to succeed. But after so many years you have to start to wonder if his message just doesn’t get through anymore. I have never wanted TLR to leave, but now I believe it is time. Do it this offseason and bring in someone Albert approves of, then get his extension hammered out. Colby stays and we will be ready to get back in the playoff hunt for 2011

David McCutcheon
4 years 10 months ago

Tony has run Ozzie Smith, Ray Lanklord, Scott Rolen (who is playing at the hot corner for the first place Reds while we trot out Pedro Feliz), Jim Edmonds and a host of other talents. People blamed Rolen last time. Looks like they were dead wrong. How many Hall of Famers does this guy have to run out of OUR city? Send Tony packing.

4 years 10 months ago

I was seriously just about to post the exact same thing, totally agree man

4 years 10 months ago

I was seriously just about to post the exact same thing, totally agree man

David McCutcheon
4 years 10 months ago

Tony has run Ozzie Smith, Ray Lanklord, Scott Rolen (who is playing at the hot corner for the first place Reds while we trot out Pedro Feliz), Jim Edmonds and a host of other talents. People blamed Rolen last time. Looks like they were dead wrong. How many Hall of Famers does this guy have to run out of OUR city? Send Tony packing.

elgato420
4 years 10 months ago

I get sick of Rasmus’s wimpy, whiney attitude everytime he gets a hangnail. He has potential but is too big for his britches right now (and needs to learn to throw from center field). He needs to be a bit patient and learn ML baseball. Tony platoons everyone.

elgato420
4 years 10 months ago

I get tired of the whiney, wimpy Rasmus everytime he gets a hangnail. He needs to grow up and be a ML player. He has talent but needs to learn how to throw from center field and begin to pay attention to the team more than his dad. Tony platoons most everyone. Keep him and hope he matures. (I’s much rather have Ludwick, who knows how to get over injuries and knows how to throw the ball, but…..)

4 years 10 months ago

let Tony walk… Albert will manage the time (practically thinks he does in a lot of ways now)…. I find it irritating that no one ever questions why Albert finds it to be his place to comment publicly on an issue that doesn’t involve him. If he wants to say Colby should shut his mouth and the “Cardinals” manage the issue, then Albert should do the same and stay out of it. Speaking out publicly against your teammate does wonders for team chemistry, I am sure….

4 years 10 months ago

manage the **team**