Chicago Rumors: Zambrano, Marmol, Dunn, Quentin

Carlos Zambrano has not asked for a trade and the Cubs have not asked him to waive his no-trade clause, according to Bruce Levine of ESPNChicago.com. The Cubs did meet with Zambrano’s agent, Barry Praver, but the sides didn’t discuss trading the right-hander. Here are the details on the Cubs and White Sox:

  • Praver and the Cubs also discussed Carlos Marmol, an offseason extension candidate who may be offered a long-term deal.
  • Cubs GM Jim Hendry acknowledged the team’s need for a first baseman and said he anticipates “more volume at that position than what people need at that position." 
  • The Cubs have not yet talked to the agents for Adam Dunn, but the White Sox are still targeting the slugger. The Tigers are interested in Dunn, but ESPN.com's Jayson Stark heard that the Cubs may not pursue him as aggressively as expected.
  • Levine hears that the White Sox are not shopping Carlos Quentin. Stark reported yesterday that the Phillies have interest in Quentin.


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55 Comments on "Chicago Rumors: Zambrano, Marmol, Dunn, Quentin"


RiverKKiller999
4 years 9 months ago

Cubs are better off sticking to a 1 year deal with Adam LaRoche then Jim Hendry offering Dunn a crazy contract.

Chiburgh
4 years 9 months ago

I can see the logic of wanting an Adam LaRoche, as a bridge, to Adrian Gonzalez, but there is no way the Cubs sign Gonzalez when you consider the other teams interested. I’m not sure who the best option would be, but Adam Dunn is NOT the answer. As you said, I hope Hendry doesn’t sign Dunn to a crazy contract.

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

what makes you think the cubs are going to make a run and adrian? First off the dude is looking for a texiera type contract…and rickets has stated over and over and over that he will lower payroll over the next few years. And with the the influx of prospects coming up the pipe line i dont see a need for the cubs to get adrian, besides they will more than likely get out bid by the yankees/bosox/ maby nats/ rangers/ etc

BlueCatuli
4 years 9 months ago

That influx of prospects has one gaping hole. No first baseman.

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

isnt there rumors(probably started by people like us) about moving colvin to 1st

there is also the possibility of moving aram to first, would save some errors, extend his career

BlueCatuli
4 years 9 months ago

There have been rumblings of Colvin moving to first. He will take ground balls and work out there some during the winter. I doubt the Cubs move Ramirez to first. If D Lee had a bad UZR, Ramirez’s UZR would be atrocious. Odds are they sign Lyle Overbay or Adam LaRoche or they trade for Gonzalez.

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

isnt there rumors(probably started by people like us) about moving colvin to 1st

there is also the possibility of moving aram to first, would save some errors, extend his career

jb226
4 years 9 months ago

He never said to sign him as a bridge to Gonzalez, even if it is a reasonable assumption. Personally I’d like to see them pick up somebody like LaRouche or Overbay on a short-term deal of 1-2 years, and yet I do NOT want them to get Gonzalez. The two things do not need to be tied.

touchmymonkey
4 years 9 months ago

Marmol has 2 years of arb left ( I think) – he made $2M+ last year so I would imagine thru arbitration he is looking at max $8M for those 2 yrs. Whats the harm in offering him 3yrs for $10M with a club option for $12M in 2014. He gets abit of security since a closers value can crap out in a year and if he does well cubs get a closer for 4yrs @ $22M which is not bank breaking. If he declines then ship him off somewhere since we are not going to be super competative next two years and closer would be a luxury.

Beauford
4 years 9 months ago

There is some concern that Marmol’s violent delivery may lead to arm/shoulder problems. In this regard, why not sell high on Marmol and trade him for a package of young talent? Cashner could close and the Cubs would have more young talent upon which to rebuild.

Whether the Cubs want to admit it or not, they are in a rebuilding situation.

jb226
4 years 9 months ago

Because Cashner got shellacked last year and has one pitch.

The reality is, in part due to his upside and in part due to there just being too many holes to fix, he will likely be in the Cubs’ bullpen next year — but handing him the closer’s job is way beyond premature even if Hendry admitted they were rebuilding and committed to it fully.

4 years 9 months ago

Good reasoning but I think he’s looking at more than $8 million over his final two arb years. Papelbon certainly got more and has essentially been trying to set the market for arb closers. If Marmol continues his success he could be looking at $8 million in his last arb year alone.

touchmymonkey
4 years 9 months ago

Possibly – but I don’t see him getting papelbons $$ even in arb.. don’t think stats match up close enough but you never know. He has high trade value now so I personally would prefer to trade him for something we can use ( 1B , 3B prospect ).

gbizle
4 years 9 months ago

Trading him would be nice, but who is going to replace him? He won quite a few games for the Cubs this year. Cashner would be the logical choice to replace him if traded, but Cashner didn’t exactly provide you with the ability to come in and shut people down. His fastball is a plus fastball speed wise, but it is straight, and got hit fairly well.

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

kerry wood reunion? it has been rumored and there is no way he gets a huge deal…

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

kerry wood reunion? it has been rumored and there is no way he gets a huge deal…

TWhizzyY
4 years 9 months ago

Cubs should do everything they can to trade for Adrian Gonzalez. If they could keep Colvin, Castro, Cashner, Archer, and Jackson… they still have plenty of pieces and arms that the Padres would like. Trade Wells, Vitters, and 2 good young arms for Gonzalez. No more Dunn talk.. and more “let’s get a guy who’s not very good for 1 year” talk.

The Cubs had D Lee and Lilly last year. It sounds like they are trying to get guys who are similar to those guys in production to fill out the team. That’s not gonna cut it. Either rebuild with all youth, or go for it with Gonzalez.

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

keeping colvin, castro, cashner, archer and jackson is asking alot…your talking about trading for one of the best 1st basemen in the game the past few years without giving up your top prospects….Yes i doubt castro will be in a deal he seems like he is untouchable. but If i were the padres GM considering i dont have to trade adrian(can offer arb and get two top picks or wait to the dead line and get a good deal from other teams) I would ask for a deal starting with colvin vitters cashner and jackson

TWhizzyY
4 years 9 months ago

Castro, Colvin, and Cashner aren’t really prospects anymore. So by keeping Archer, and Jackson.. the Padres can have their pick of our 3, 4th, or 5th best prospects in the minors along with Randy Wells.. a guy they’ve asked about several times before. They’ve also been high on Vitters.

studio179
4 years 9 months ago

The 3rd, 4th and 5th best prospects might get the Padres to consider it. I would think throwing in Randy Wells should get it done though. 😉

jammin502
4 years 9 months ago

The Cubs could also just sign Derrek Lee to a cheap incentive laden contract. We know the type of glove he brings and his value is way down. Give him a chance to restore his value and then go from there.

studio179
4 years 9 months ago

Hmm…the Lee/Zambrano reunion tour.

mmontice
4 years 9 months ago

Why does everyone keep listing the Yankees as a potential destination for Adrian Gonzalez? Unless they are planning on trading Texiera, I don’t see how Gonzalez fits onto that team. They guy will be 29 or so next year, so I doubt he is going to agree to be a DH.

The Mets might not even be a great fit if Ike Davis plays well this year. So, you are down to the Red Sox, the Cubs, the White Sox, the Dodgers (not great because of Loney and money problems in general), and perhaps a few other dark horse teams. But overall, if SD does not resign him, he is really only going to have a few very serious bidders. So, overall, I hope the Cubs wait on him until next year, as I don’t think he puts them over the top this year anyhow. The pitching staff (especially the starters) just doesn’t have enough high end arms.

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

well one of two(tex or adrian) could play left or thrid(i believe both have done it in their career) or simply both could rotate at dh and 1st

mmontice
4 years 9 months ago

I don’t see any scenario where the two are sharing first base and DH duties, and in your first and third scenario, where one first has to assume the two of them would still be any good at 3B, which is much, much harder than 1B, where does ARod play? I don’t see him agreeing to be a DH too. So then a 3 way DH situation comes up. Also not likely.

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

well one of two(tex or adrian) could play left or thrid(i believe both have done it in their career) or simply both could rotate at dh and 1st

studio179
4 years 9 months ago

A-Gon is a great player, no doubt. He is the type of player a team like the Cubs should get if they are a 1B/big bat away from seriously contending. The Cubs are far from seriously contending. The Cubs have too many holes to fill and far away from a deal like Gonzalez to make it worth it. Unfortunately, the timing is not now. A short term, stop gap guy at 1B is the better direction. Keep the top prospects, develope the team to get into a serious contend mode.

4 years 9 months ago

Cubs are going to sign a Adam LaRoach or a short-term answer. On ESPN 1000 they already said that Ricketts is going to lower payroll and play what ever big contracts they have out. Kosuke Fukudome, A-Ram, and Carlos Silva are in their last years of their contracts. I think this is Sorianos 5th year of his contract -___-, Z is in his 4th year. So basically in 2-3 years hopefully we will be back on track, with all the young talent coming up. Josh Vitters, Brett Jackson, Jay Jackson, Chris Archer, Trey McNutt, Brandon Guyer ect.

GoatTastesGreat
4 years 9 months ago

All they have to do is keep an eye on the market for A-Gon. If it looks like he will be dealt mid season then go for it. Otherwise all they need to do is wait for free agency and not give up the prospects. They aren’t projected to do a lot this year and he alone won’t make that much of a difference.
If they do trade Ramirez, i would want prospects. I don’t think Ellsbury would be the long term solution for the leadoff spot. As far as Scutaro is concerned, why bring him here just to sit on the bench. Castro is the SS and we already have DeWitt and Barney for 2B. We don’t need Scutaro.

mmontice
4 years 9 months ago

Agreed, if the Cubs are bad enough this year too, there first round pick next year might even be protected. Even more reason to sign a big name player next offeseason.

Chiburgh
4 years 9 months ago

Jim Hendry at his best….signing a player to a long term, big contract. I have never felt Marmol as had the mental toughness to be a closer long term. There is no question, when he is on, he is incredible, but when he is off, which is often, he is exhausting.

BlueCatuli
4 years 9 months ago

3 years 8MM with a mutual option for a fourth based off of totals. Any longer and they are asking for trouble. Closers are a tricky people.

BlueCatuli
4 years 9 months ago

No.

4 years 9 months ago

ARam is a much better hitter than Ellsbury, no reason to trade him and pay him to play for the Sox when they don’t need another outfielder. Colvin isn’t at 1b yet either, I think they still view him as an OF unless they completely strike out on a 1b this winter. Even if Colvin does end up at 1b the Cubs still have three OF starter and B. Jackson on the farm likely ready to contribute in 2011. No reason for them to trade for Ellsbury when he’s about to get expensive.

amhcubby12
4 years 9 months ago

Rockfordone – I am in complete agreement with you and have been saying the same thing all offseason. Cubs should take back Scutaro as well and pay some of the difference in salary. There are only a couple issues. Will A-Ram agree to waive his NTC? I also think, but may be wrong, there’s a clause in his contract that if he gets traded his option for 2012 kicks in. Next issue – Red Sox trading Ellsbury is contingent upon them getting Crawford or Werth. Otherwise, they’re not trading him unless they get Upton and that would be as part of that deal. But, Cubs desperately need a legitimate leadoff hitter with speed. They should then trade Byrd for a couple prospects. His value is at its peak…and unfortunately, they’ll never be able to trade Soriano (AJ Burnett??)

4 years 9 months ago

Agreed. As for LaRoche/Pena I’d rather go with Pena. More upside than LaRoche, better defense and he’s spent the last few years in the AL East so he could be in for a bump if he moves to the NL Central. After the year he just had he may also be open to a one year deal to rebuild value, a la Beltre.

rockfordone
4 years 9 months ago

Who leads off????? Correct nobody. Second, Cubs have one OFer Byrd. Ells, Byrd, Colvin in of not bad. Or in your case Colvin at 1B and Jackson in Of. Fuko and Soro just write off or a solid bench

TWhizzyY
4 years 9 months ago

Gonzalez is a guy you build your team around. Whether we are rebuilding, or trying to contend, Gonzalez fits perfectly. If the Cubs had a first base prospect right now, that would be a different story. But they don’t. They wouldn’t have any problem signing Gonzalez to an extension. If Gonzalez gets traded somewhere else, he might sign an extension there before the Cubs even have a shot at getting him. He’s a perfect fit for us: He’s a leader, left handed, lots of power, great defense, doesn’t have a big ego.

The Cubs would still have a ton of young talent even if they did the trade I proposed.

Gonzalez and Castro.. build around them for years. Make it happen Jimbo.

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

just because the have had a huge payroll the past few years does not put them on par with the redsox and mets and im assuming the etc mean yankees…its means the GM they have had for the past few years had spent an extreme amount of money onplayers they never deserved it and it killed their payroll, thus the new owner saying he wants to lower payroll

TWhizzyY
4 years 9 months ago

Have you seen the Padres lineup? How could they be leading the west for so many games this season? The answer: pitching, defense, and Adrian Gonzalez.

The Cubs have a good lineup, minus a good middle of the order. A bounce back year from Ramirez, and Adrian Gonzalez, and you’re looking at a much different lineup.

The Cubs have much better resources than the Padres. That’s a little ridiculous to say he’s not that great of a player, because the Padres didn’t win their division.

To get one of the best players.. you have to give up something.

BlueCatuli
4 years 9 months ago

Colvin isn’t playing first base. You made that up. There are rumors he will take grounders in the winter and spring.

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

there is no way soriano ever gets benched yes his contract is worse than bad but the dud is still a good hitter…he should DH but i doubt they could work a trade to do that with out eating like 90% of his contract…but he can carry a team when hot

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

there is no way soriano ever gets benched yes his contract is worse than bad but the dud is still a good hitter…he should DH but i doubt they could work a trade to do that with out eating like 90% of his contract…but he can carry a team when hot

crunchy1
4 years 9 months ago

Didn’t say he wasn’t a great player. Of course, he is. Just said that if you’re team that sucks (like the Padres did until last year) it doesn’t matter if he’s in the lineup or not. And I’m still not sure the Cubs don’t suck. I’d like to think they’ll be a lot better even before they add a big piece like A-Gon, but until we find out for certain there’s no sense in making a huge investment in terms of money and young talent.

crunchy1
4 years 9 months ago

Wow…I just got a comment deleted for what? Saying there are Cub detractors who stereotype the Cubs? Who’s moderating this? The Ministry of Truth?

touchmymonkey
4 years 9 months ago

I thought your comment was going to be deleted the moment you added the word conspiracy to it. New World Order, Illuminati, Bilderbergers have obviously extended their reach deep into the depths of mlbtraderumors lol.

crunchy1
4 years 9 months ago

LOL!

jb226
4 years 9 months ago

It’s slightly more than a rumor. “If the regular season began today, Tyler Colvin would most likely be the Cubs’ first baseman,” according to Carrie Muskat (the Cubs beat reporter).

That said, I do expect Hendry to add a first baseman on a short-term deal. Unfortunately it’s sounding more like he wants to fill it via trade lately and I worry what he’s going to give up for a team that really isn’t likely to compete anyway.

jb226
4 years 9 months ago

Gonzalez is a guy you build your team around if you’re ready to go. You don’t pay somebody in the neighborhood of $20MM/year to waste 2-3 years being the best player on a bad team before you’re ready to compete.The Cubs’ entire bullpen before the closer is a hole at this point, and even Marmol will induce as many heart attacks as saves. The rotation ranges from terrifying to questionable after Dempster, who is good but not an ace, especially for a team that expects to contend. Soriano is dead weight, nobody knows if Ramirez will bounce back or how long he will be a quality player or who would replace him, there are a handful of good MI prospects in the farm but they are just prospects at this point. Soto and Byrd would be good pieces on a good team, but with all the holes–even assuming AGon–they just don’t get it done. Colvin showed surprisingly good power, power that I’m not 100% sure is for real, and in any event he crapped out pretty hard at the end of the season. The reality is he’s something like a .265 hitter. For an Adam Dunn that’s fine because he’s going to mash 40 jacks and and OBP near .400 — but for somebody who’ll hit 20-25 if his power is even for real that’s in the good-but-not-great department. Castro is a nice piece if he gets his defense in order, something that’s not exactly a given (see: Cedeno, Ronnie).The Cubs are in a holding pattern for at least two more years until some of these contracts start to come off the books and longer if some of their prospects don’t pan out fairly big. I’d prefer they not give up half the farm and sign $180MM contracts in the meantime. A few decent moves, hopefully for guys they can likely offer arb and pick up some extra picks for, makes much more sense.

jb226
4 years 9 months ago

Gonzalez is a guy you build your team around if you’re ready to go. You don’t pay somebody in the neighborhood of $20MM/year to waste 2-3 years being the best player on a bad team before you’re ready to compete.The Cubs’ entire bullpen before the closer is a hole at this point, and even Marmol will induce as many heart attacks as saves. The rotation ranges from terrifying to questionable after Dempster, who is good but not an ace, especially for a team that expects to contend. Soriano is dead weight, nobody knows if Ramirez will bounce back or how long he will be a quality player or who would replace him, there are a handful of good MI prospects in the farm but they are just prospects at this point. Soto and Byrd would be good pieces on a good team, but with all the holes–even assuming AGon–they just don’t get it done. Colvin showed surprisingly good power, power that I’m not 100% sure is for real, and in any event he crapped out pretty hard at the end of the season. The reality is he’s something like a .265 hitter. For an Adam Dunn that’s fine because he’s going to mash 40 jacks and and OBP near .400 — but for somebody who’ll hit 20-25 if his power is even for real that’s in the good-but-not-great department. Castro is a nice piece if he gets his defense in order, something that’s not exactly a given (see: Cedeno, Ronnie).The Cubs are in a holding pattern for at least two more years until some of these contracts start to come off the books and longer if some of their prospects don’t pan out fairly big. I’d prefer they not give up half the farm and sign $180MM contracts in the meantime. A few decent moves, hopefully for guys they can likely offer arb and pick up some extra picks for, makes much more sense.

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

think about this gonzo has been on a bad team for years except for this past season. ..when he becomes a FA he is going to want to go to a team that is going to win and win soon…which is not the cubs sorry to say it but its realistic with the cards and reds there is no way the cubs will win anytime soon too many holes gonzo will field offers from other teams that are much closer to competing than the cubs

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

think about this gonzo has been on a bad team for years except for this past season. ..when he becomes a FA he is going to want to go to a team that is going to win and win soon…which is not the cubs sorry to say it but its realistic with the cards and reds there is no way the cubs will win anytime soon too many holes gonzo will field offers from other teams that are much closer to competing than the cubs

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

see but if colvin can handle 1st(dont see why he cant) he is a very good very cheap option for the long term for the cubs

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

colvin is still young though so his power might not show right back up next season but he has a nice swing and a fast one at that give him some time

TWhizzyY
4 years 9 months ago

In order to “build a team around a guy”.. you’ve got to have the “guy” to build your team around. Do you honestly believe they shouldn’t get a stud until they are “ready to contend?” Does adding a stud like Gonzalez not jumpstart their hopes of contending a lot sooner?

Adding Gonzalez, with a better year from Ramirez.. a better bullpen, and a solid rotation.. plus the development of younger players… in the NL Central… I’m not so sure the Cubs wouldn’t compete in 2011 if those things happened.

Then you sign Gonzalez to an extension.. and you’re really ready to rock and roll come 2012.