Giants Focused On Finding A Shortstop

Now that the Giants have re-signed Aubrey Huff, they are focusing on finding a shortstop, according to Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle. They have serious interest in re-signing Juan Uribe, but GM Brian Sabean will also consider trades.

The Giants really wants Diamondbacks shortstop Stephen Drew, according to Schulman, who reports that Arizona GM Kevin Towers will not deal him. Alternatively, Jose Reyes, Jason Bartlett and Marco Scutaro could become trade targets or the Giants could ask Emmanuel Burriss to take on a bigger role. 

Yankees GM Brian Cashman guaranteed to Pete Caldera of the Bergen Record that Derek Jeter’s representatives have called “every club out there.” Negotiations between Jeter and the Yankees appear to be souring, but it still seems unlikely that the shortstop would leave the Bronx or that a team like the Giants would match the Yankees $45MM offer.


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157 Comments on "Giants Focused On Finding A Shortstop"


Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

I seriously think San Fran could be a landing spot for Jeter. Might happen.

moonraker45
4 years 8 months ago

well….they did give renteria 10 mil last year…

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 8 months ago

Zero chance

Slopeboy
4 years 8 months ago

All this hoopla with Jeter’s contract is just fodder for the press and us Blog Geeks.
Jeter is not going anywhere other than the Bronx. Especailly to SF for less of an offer than the Yankees’. First of all Jeter is not going to sign anywhere else for less than what he’s already stipulated.He’s turned down 3yrs @$45MM and has countered with 4 yrs @ $18MM. He has made it plain to everyone that he will not move to another position either. SF is not going to lay out that type of money for an aging SS. They won the WS on pitching, not because of their SS. That position can be easily filled for less money.

friscofan101
4 years 8 months ago

their short stop played a pretty big role in winning the world series.

Slopeboy
4 years 8 months ago

True, he was the MVP in fact. But,the Giants didn’t get to the WS because of the SS. The pitching is what got them there and ulimately won it. The fact that he’s not assured of coming back tells you he’s not a very important piece as far as the Giants are concerned.

gmenfan
4 years 8 months ago

Zero chance. No team, besides the Yankees, is going to pony up $15M a year for Jeter. At age 37 and coming off a ridiculously unproductive season, his value to the league has diminished in comparison to his value to the Yankees as a team leader. He’s staying put – the Yankees have him over a barrel and he’ll end up signing the 3yr./$45M deal when he sobers up and realizes that no other clubs are going to offer anything close to that.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Pretty Horrible how Jeter is leveraging the Yankees. Really showing his true colors.

ddonahue5280
4 years 8 months ago

What’s up with they typos lately?

ddonahue5280
4 years 8 months ago

“The Giants really wants Diamondbacks shortstop Stephen Drew”. And I’s really wants somebody that knows how to write with proper grammar and punctuation.

bbxxj
4 years 8 months ago

You seem very worked up over a minor typo. It’s not like you pay a fee for these posts. You know most of the work here is excellent and produced very quickly (as it needs to be on a rumor mill) so just calm down.

4 years 8 months ago

triple like.

Piccamo
4 years 8 months ago

The argument that because you don’t pay for something, its quality doesn’t matter is absurd. These authors are paid professionals and there should be an expectation for the caliber of writing. At the same time, I do agree with you that this sort of error is so minor and infrequent that it really doesn’t matter. Ben is a good writer who typically puts forth an excellent effort, but he is still human and so errors can be forgiven.I agree with your stance, just not your justification.

moonraker45
4 years 8 months ago

I think the argument is, if you don’t like it, go to another website and stop whining over minor errors.

4 years 8 months ago

Right I have to agree here that the typo doesn’t effect the way the story leads and doesn’t mislead so its not a “big deal.”

In other words, people need to chill out. I bet they’d hate it if instead of pointing out their mistakes at work, someone jumped at them and harped them over it.

deere5800
4 years 8 months ago

It’s affect not effect…sorry, had to do it

MB923
4 years 8 months ago

Ever see some of the articles on ESPN.com, the site where these writers actually get paid? While nothing was misspelled, this is even a dumber mistake- “Hamilton didn’t make an impact in the majors until 2008, when he won the All-Star Home Run Derby at Yankee Stadium and led the AL with 130 RBIs.”

MB923
4 years 8 months ago

Don’t know if my last comment got posted because I can’t find it, but have you ever seen the big mistakes that ESPN writers make? The ones that get paid the big bucks and make some of the dumbest mistakes ever?

This was shown in an article of Hamilton winning the MVP

“Selected by Tampa Bay with the top pick in the 1999 amateur draft, Hamilton didn’t make an impact in the majors until 2008, when he won the All-Star Home Run Derby at Yankee Stadium and led the AL with 130 RBIs.”

MB923
4 years 8 months ago

Ahh now it got posted, probably because I had the link posted in the original.

Loody
4 years 8 months ago

As a Mets fan this is a very, very intriguing trade match. Reyes for one of the Giants pitching prospects aka Madison Bumgarner? Obviously if the Giants were to make that trade they would have to be able to negotiate a long term contract with Reyes. But if I were the Mets I would definitely have to think about it.

bbxxj
4 years 8 months ago

I think Bumgarner is too much to give up for Reyes right now. After his WS performance and considering his talent and years of control I just can’t see him being moved for a shortstop with health questions who you will have to pay full price to keep around.

nvsfg
4 years 8 months ago

Agree, MadBum is much more valuable than Reyes. The injury history of Reyes alone would make this a terrible trade for the Giants.

4 years 8 months ago

can we just put to rest right now that madbum IS NOT going anywhere. the giants championship core of freak, cain, madbum, and to a lesser extent sanchy, is the stuff dynasties are made of. the mets would be lucky to get a runzler/romo package for reyes. hummmmmm baby!

His_Thrillness
4 years 8 months ago

His name is not “sanchy”, it’s “Dirty” (because his stuff is filthy). That being said if someone gets dealt it will be Dirty.

4 years 8 months ago

thanks for explaining what “dirty” means. i figured you were just a bigot. but thanks for agreeing with me, neuschler.

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 8 months ago

They gotta do it, they need quality starting pitching

Loody
4 years 8 months ago

bbxxj, Bumgarner is a lot to give up – and as a die hard Mets fan even I admit that. From a fan aspect it would be upsetting to see a World Series hero go. But just guessing this Met brass mindset (which nobody knows yet), Bumgarner would have to be the piece to get moved. IF the Giants could negotiate a long term contract with Reyes before the trade goes through, then it could actually be a possibility. This is the type of trade that could benefit both teams (Mets get a young ace, Giants get a potential offensive force) and in many ways both players have shown flashes of brilliance (obviously Reyes is older and has done it over the course of a full season as oppose to Bumgarner). It’s a very interesting trade idea.

bbxxj
4 years 8 months ago

I agree the pitcher for shortstop match is a good one for both teams. But I’m my opinion over the past year Bumgarner has gone from top prospect to young frontline starter and Reyes has not answered all of the questions with his health and is on a one year deal opposed to the six more from Bumgarner.

Loody
4 years 8 months ago

I ultimately don’t think it will happen because I do think the Mets would like to sign Reyes long term if he proves to be healthy this year and perform up to his standards. As someone who has watched Reyes perform on a daily basis we quickly forget how spectacular he can be when he is healthy. Without question he gets a bad rep.

Your point about the money is legit and if that is the case and the Giants decide they want to build their rotation around Lincecum and Bumgarner then you could see the Mets ask for the older Matt Cain instead. The money actually might match up as well. I am not familiar with the Giants pitching prospects, do they have more on the way in Double A?

bustersposey
4 years 8 months ago

the giants arent trading any of there sp, unless someone wants zito. no sp prospects are close to making an impact, so they’d create a hole to plug another hole. wheeler is their best sp prospect and he pitched at low A. he’s probably at least 2 1/2 yrs away. most of their other prospects ready to contribute are bullpen guys.. that’s a position where i’d expect they’d trade from…

4 years 8 months ago

Actually, Dan Runzler is the Giants top SP prospect. There is a chance he takes a spot in the rotation next year.

4 years 8 months ago

Uhhhhhhhhhhh Zack Wheeler???

bustersposey
4 years 8 months ago

actually, runzler pitched in 118 games in the minors, and made 2 starts. and 52 games in the majors, with no starts. i wouldn’t consider him a sp prospect.

4 years 8 months ago

The Giants have begun converting Runzler to a starting role for next season.

GiantsWSchamps2010
4 years 8 months ago

Even if they convert him to a starter he won’t be in the starting rotation next year or likely anytime soon. And he isn’t there top SP prospect because he never even started in the minor leagues.

gmenfan
4 years 8 months ago

AB is actually correct. There has been talk within the organization that Runzler is a viable option for the starting rotation next season, should they be so fortunate to unload Zito or wind up trading an arm for a power bat. But, as has been mentioned, a project starter making next to nothing wouldn’t be enough to bring Reyes.

4 years 8 months ago

Yeah, there has been lots of talk that Runzler has a chance to be the 5th starter next season.

Zack Wheeler had an ERA of 4 in A ball. He’s not going to be in the show anytime soon.

Kyle
4 years 8 months ago

No way bums is going to be traded. Giants will resign uriba to play ss and pick up a 3rd baseman or sign a guy like Bartlett to play ss and move uriba to 3rd. They will trade panda or have him come off the bench.

55saveslives
4 years 8 months ago

No way the Giants give up a young and “contract controlled” player for one year and 11 mill of a player that hasn’t been healthy.

Bumgarner showed in the World Series that he has the head and the arm for the bigs!

gigantes2425
4 years 8 months ago

Not only that. But the guy just turned 21 at the end of august.

4 years 8 months ago

“Your point about the money is legit and if that is the case and the Giants decide they want to build their rotation around Lincecum and Bumgarner then you could see the Mets ask for the older Matt Cain instead.”

Much older Matt Cain????? Check your facts. Cain is younger than Lincecum. He was drafted out of HS so he has more time in the Majors.

Sabean does not trade Starting pitching. If he was to trade one of the starters it would be Sanchez. Cain ain’t going nowhere. Lincecum, Cain, and MadBum are going to be the SF Big 3 for a long, long time.

4 years 8 months ago

sabean traded away liriano, meat.

4 years 8 months ago

Liriano was in the minors. Sabean isnt moving any of this rotation.

4 years 8 months ago

Liriano was stil MiLB, right?

3ball
4 years 8 months ago

Yes, he traded away a converted catcher, who had never made it above A ball and had just blown out his arm the previous year. The Giants staff thought they were trading damaged goods (i’ll include Nathan too, since he lost Alou’s faith in that Marlins series, and was throwing ~85mph and getting shelled in Fresno before finally regaining velocity and making it back to MLB). Credit to the Twins for rehabilitating them, and dumping AJ on us.Aside from those two guys, Sabean has made out pretty well on dealing “acclaimed” arms (Grilli, Ainsworth, Williams, etc).

BLB25
4 years 8 months ago

This is ridiculous. Matt Cain is way, way, way too much to give up for Reyes. If Reyes were 100% healthy coming off a very productive season that might be close to fair, but he’s not. Giving up all of Bumgarner’s cheap years for 1 year or Reyes at 10 mil and maybe signing him to an extension at market value might be an even worse deal for the Giants. If there were to be a pitching for Reyes match with the Giants it would have to be Jonathan Sanchez, and given that Sanchez is younger and still controllable for more years than Reyes even that deal might require the Mets to kick in a prospect.

sojuboi
4 years 8 months ago

Get your facts straight buddy. Matt Cain is younger than Lincecum and why would the Giants trade him for Reyes if they won’t even trade Cain for Fielder? Cain isn’t going anywhere.

Slopeboy
4 years 8 months ago

Giants won the WS on their pitching strength, not because of their SS. They are not going to trade away an asset like Bumgarner for Reyes straight up. This looks like wishful thinking from a Mets fan and not reality.

4 years 8 months ago

that’s funny, because their SS was the WS MV and their offense scored 27 runs in their 4 wins.

Slopeboy
4 years 8 months ago

It is ironic and true, but the SS was not who got them to the WS.The offense got hot in a short series, but the pitching is what sealed it. Last I checked, the SS is not assured of coming back to the team. We all know Bumgarner is.

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 8 months ago

IF they were to dangle a pitcher, it would probablly be Jonathan Sanchez as he would certainly draw alot interest. If they were to be overwhelmed by another team than do it, but watching him this year and the previous year just reminds me of A.J. Burnett with his stuff and to an extent with his control

Slopeboy
4 years 8 months ago

That seems more realistic than Bumgarner, but I can’t see the Giants trading away any of their front line pitchers for Reyes. Jose will be a FA at this season’s end and if he has even the same type of year he had this past season, he’ll command more than the $11MM he gets in 2011. Are the Giants prepared to give him a raise in order to keep him? And what assurances do the Giants have that he would like to stay on the west coast?

4 years 8 months ago

If Sabean refused to give up Sanchez for Uggla or Prince Fielder, you must be delusional to think he’d give up Bumgarner for Reyes…Matt Cain would get traded before Bumgarner.

Come on people.. to speculate is one thing, but to say that this is a real possibility is absurd.

4 years 8 months ago

That was during the middle of the season, when you had no one to replace a starter. But now in the off-season, after coming off a world championship, I’m willing to bet Sabean would be more likely to deal Sanchez. Also Tim,Matt, and Madison aren’t going anywhere.

sojuboi
4 years 8 months ago

… Cain marked his spot in SF. Madbum barely made his. Cain is less likely to move than Madbum, not that they both are going anywhere.

4 years 8 months ago

I just assumed the 21 year old lefty would be less tradeable than the 26 yo righty. I agree Cain did make himself ace #1A behind Lincecum being #1

4 years 8 months ago

alright, you didnt seem to get what some of the people were saying before, so im going to break it down for you. Madison Bumgarner will not be traded. Period. Sabean was offered Adam Dunn for him in July, he said no. He has said over and over again, the pitching is NOT being traded. When Milwaukee offered Prince Fielder for Matt Cain, they were shot down. When Alex Rios was offered for Lincecum before the 2008 season, they were shot down. Dan Uggla for Jonathan Sanchez? Shot down. The Giants are not trading their pitching. Period.

Loody
4 years 8 months ago

Wow, my goodness the responses to this idea have been fascinating. And while I personally believe that Sabean will not trade his pitching – because that is indeed what anchored them to the World Series championship – I do want to say that I do believe you Giants fans are making Jose Reyes sound like the 25th man on the roster. My goodness how we forget so quickly. For his position is Reyes better then Hanley Ramirez or Troy Tulowitzki? No. When he is healthy is Reyes a helluva player? No question. Would he help the Giants? Absolutely and you guys are nuts not to think so. As a matter of fact he would be a perfect addition for them. If healthy would I take Reyes over Adam Dunn (who is one of my favorite players mind you), Dan Uggla, or Prince Fielder? Yes I would. And while I think that those three players offer more power then Reyes ever will, I will take the speed, arm, position he plays, contact ability of Reyes over them.

Slopeboy
4 years 8 months ago

I agree with this posting. Everything you state here is pretty much correct. My disagreement is with your first post of Bumgarner for Reyes. Reyes is a FA after this coming season, and if he has a typical Reyes season will command more than the $11MM he’ll make this year. Are the Giants ready to cough up that kind of money?
Sabean doesn’t have a history of renting players and Reyes’ contract demands would really crimp Sabean’s budget.

Loody
4 years 8 months ago

My original statement was that in order for the Giants to even consider dealing Bumgarner for Reyes they would need a 24 hour negotiating window to sign Reyes to a long term contract a la what happened when the Mets and Phillies traded for Johan Santana and Roy Halladay. If that isn’t a possibility then there is no way the Giants consider the trade. I am going to guess that next year, coming off the World Series win, the Giants will have money to spend if they don’t already.

Loody
4 years 8 months ago

And I personally don’t believe the Mets should deal Reyes OR Wright. Should they listen to offers? No question, you always listen to offers. But if I am Sandy Alderson and Company and I look at the team I am inheriting, plus the $50 million coming off the books next year, and I see that I have three guys in Reyes, Wright, and Davis – two of whom are about to enter their prime – that I can build a legitimate core around. And personally, I think Alderson knows this and is not showing his hand. 2011 for the Mets is a win-win in my opinion. If they surprise and players like Carlos Beltran, Jason Bay, Francisco Rodriguez, Johan Santana when he comes back, resemble a semblance of the players they are and actually help the team, then it creates trade value for them. Even if the team is playing over .500 baseball because those guys are playing well I STILL think you look to deal them. And if they all stink, then let me say again, you still have $50 million coming off the book as well as gaining draft picks for players like Reyes that are free agents next year. The Mets are in a very interesting position. Yes, it is perfectly fine to mock them and insult them – as a Mets fan I am completely use to that and hey, they deserve it for their epic failure in ’06, ’07 and to a lesser degree ’08. But when you actually look at the position they are in from a financial and organizational standpoint it is very intriguing. I actually do not think they are anywhere near as bad as people do. Oh and let me just say one more point about their 2011 Starting Rotation WITHOUT Santana. Yes, they only have 3 starting pitchers (Dickey, Pelfrey, and Niese) penciled in the rotation. But because they play in such a pitchers ballpark I could easily see them signing someone cheap like a Kevin Millwood or some other mediocre pitcher and that pitcher taking advantage of pitching half their games in Citi Field. I look at Mike Pelfrey this year and Jon Garland, Clayton Richard in San Diego as perfect examples of pitchers who did that.

sojuboi
4 years 8 months ago

Big words, even for a Mets fan. If you are such a Mets fan, you would know that the Mets have been projected greatness a long time ago. And they failed miserably. They have Ike Davis now yes. But he’s no team carrier. What I’m basically saying is: the Mets team looks the same as the failed one. They need to make some moves.

sojuboi
4 years 8 months ago

Winning one WS doesn’t make the money to sign a Carl Crawford or an All-Star Jose Reyes to be exact. Reyes will make more than 11 million after next year. The Giants just signed Huff to a big extension. And with Cain and Lincecum’s salary likely to rise, I doubt the WS victory will have anything to do with signing a big FA. If they do put out more money, then it’s going to be the front office that gives them the go.

Kyle
4 years 8 months ago

Key word healthy. I would love to have him but at what price? I rather get Bartlett and go after worth.

4 years 8 months ago

My only problem with Reyes is that he is a speed guy with leg/foot injuries.

4 years 8 months ago

Reyes for one pitching prospect? You call yourself a Mets fan?

Loody
4 years 8 months ago

You aren’t just getting a pitching prospect you are getting a STUD prospect that has shown he can contribute significantly on the Major League Level. As a matter of fact of all the top prospects the Mets could possibly get for Reyes I think Bumgarner would be the best.

4 years 8 months ago

Except that Bumgarner isnt “one of all the top prospects the Mets could possibly get” I doubt the Mets could even get Jon Sanchez.

sojuboi
4 years 8 months ago

Madbum is no prospect. He’s a stud MLB starter.

sojuboi
4 years 8 months ago

Why am I only posting responses to you. I guess I just totally disagree with you. Oh well.

moonraker45
4 years 8 months ago

Considering the Giants would hang up the phone before Alderson could even finish the word ‘madison’ … I think you have it backwards.

4 years 8 months ago

I think Bumgartner has a ton of trade value right now. Chances are he never has the kind of success again that he had this year…

moonraker45
4 years 8 months ago

What? Why at 21 would he have reached his pinnacle of success.. that makes zero sense.

4 years 8 months ago

link to baseball-reference.com

just one of many examples of guys who have incredible rookie years and never repeat their magic.

the giants got an incredible playoff performance for no money…they could technically move on and feel like they got wht they needed.

moonraker45
4 years 8 months ago

LOL.. so what you’re telling me.. is that because 1 pitcher in the 1980’s had an incredible rookie year, and never repeated the same success.. The Giants should shop a 21 year old pitcher, with filthy stuff, a top 10 pick, top 10 rated by baseball america, who has succeeded at every level he’s pitched at..

sound reasoning. you win.

4 years 8 months ago

what part of “just one of many examples” was that hard to understand?

Bumgardner & Posey will be worthless in two years. Guarantee it. The Giants could trade them now and get the world for them…they won’t be winning another WS anytime soon, anyways.

4 years 8 months ago

haha, good one, vince. your baseball IQ is without parallel. id be shocked if you aren’t a real major league gm masquerading as a chat room buffoon to stir-up chatter.

friscofan101
4 years 8 months ago

this comment is to stupid to argue with. i cant tell if your serious or not.

Jason_F
4 years 8 months ago

I just realized that the one example you did give (I’d love to hear the others) is Fernando Valenzuela. You do realize that in his first 10 seasons he produced a 3.19 ERA, right? He also had arguably a better season in 1985 than his rookie campaign, which would, I believe, constitute “repeat[ing] their magic.”

Are your next examples Don Drysdale, Christy Mathewson and Bob Feller?

Regarding Bumgarner and Posey, you really are showing how little you know about baseball with that statement.

4 years 8 months ago

Because they’ve been dominant at every level of baseball they’ve ever played in their lives? Makes sense i like your theories, now i understand why you’re hired to evaluate prospects… oh wait

4 years 8 months ago

Have you even watched them play? These two will be good for a long time, I watched, listened to every Giants game and when Posey came up to play, you knew this kid would be special for a long time.

sojuboi
4 years 8 months ago

Okay, I understand you’re a Dodgers fan and you are bitter towards your rivals winning the WS. But don’t talk BS. Yea you and your “examples” and go to the corner of your imagination and jack off. But this is the MLB. Stars don’t just fall.

sojuboi
4 years 8 months ago

Plus, Jose Reyes isn’t the world.

DODGERS4LYFE
4 years 8 months ago

Wow I can’t believe people with this low of an IQ is a Dodgers fan.

moonraker45
4 years 8 months ago

ps. I gave your post a ‘like’ just because it actually made me laugh out loud.

Jason_F
4 years 8 months ago

“they could technically move on and feel like they got wht they needed”

I’m curious as to what part of that statement is “technical”?

Bumgarner is a high first round draft pick, pitched this past season mostly at 20 years old and has had success at every level. Chances are he’s only going to get better. He has a great frame and throws very hard from the left side with a deceptive motion to go with good pure stuff. These guys don’t grow on trees. They certainly don’t get traded for injured shortstops going into the last year of their contract that haven’t had a productive season since 2008.

You really have no idea what you’re talking about.

gigantes2425
4 years 8 months ago

God. I wish I could “like” this a million times. But I’m on my phone.

4 years 8 months ago

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

that is all

friscofan101
4 years 8 months ago

one more thing. you linked to a guy who was 173-153 with a 3.54 era. how is that not a good carrier. also, he had 21 wins like 8 years after his rookie season. unbelievable.

timlinCYecum55
4 years 8 months ago

I suggest doing a little research before you make asinine, outlandish statements like this. This is truly laughable.

sojuboi
4 years 8 months ago

Disagree. He’s 21. He’s only going to get better. I can say the same about Kershaw and Billingsley for your team, because Madbum has achieved more than both of them combined.

BLB25
4 years 8 months ago

Bumgarner is still at least a couple years away from even reaching arbitration. All of Bumgarner’s cheap years for Reyes at or above market price? Yea, thats not even close to fair.

4 years 8 months ago

hahaha Bumgarner for Jose Reyes? Are you serious? Dream on

gigantes2425
4 years 8 months ago

No way they trade Madbum for Reyes. Burris would be our SS.

timlinCYecum55
4 years 8 months ago

Of course that trade would be intriguing to a Mets fan, Bumgarner for Reyes would be an absolute fleecing as far as I’m concerned. A 21 year old with ace potential, under team control for several years, for one guaranteed year of an injury-prone volatile position player who’s best years are most likely behind him? No thanks.

jkutless
4 years 8 months ago

that would never happen Madison Bumgarner for someone who is injury prone, no way!

gmenfan
4 years 8 months ago

In the ridiculously absurd occurrence that the Giants part with a piece of their core starting staff such as Bumgarner, they better get a hell of a lot more in return than Jose Reyes.

4 years 8 months ago

Uhhh a bit of wishful thinking considering jose reyes will cost 11 mil next year then be a free agent and is damaged goods, and bumgarner is a stud pitcher with 5 more years under team control. Bumgarner for david wright is more reasonable and as a giants fan i probably wouldnt do that

sojuboi
4 years 8 months ago

As a Giants fan, I’d actually consider that. David Wright is a beast…

RepOak
4 years 8 months ago

Jeter isn’t going anywhere. We all know he will stay a Yankee at the end of day, and I highly doubt he would even consider going to the giants! Besides the giants have no money to spare.