Cashman Encourages Jeter To Test The Market

The game of chicken between the Yankees and Derek Jeter continued today, with GM Brian Cashman making the latest move.  Cashman told ESPN's Wallace Matthews:

"We understand his contributions to the franchise and our offer has taken them into account.  We've encouraged him to test the market and see if there's something he would prefer other than this. If he can, fine. That's the way it works."

On Sunday, Jeter's agent Casey Close told Mike Lupica of the New York Daily News, "The Yankees' negotiating strategy remains baffling.  They continue to argue their points in the press and refuse to acknowledge Derek's total contribution to their franchise."  To that, Cashman responded:

"I certainly was surprised.  There's nothing baffling about our position. We have actually gone directly face to face with Casey and Derek and been very honest and direct. They know exactly where we sit."

Matthews reports the Yankees' offer to be three years and $45MM.  Cashman wouldn't confirm that, but did say, "You can write that they have asked for more. More years and more money."  Matthews says the Yankees informed Close Monday that they will not be offering arbitration to Jeter.  If Jeter does somehow land with another club, he will not come with a draft pick cost.


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186 Comments on "Cashman Encourages Jeter To Test The Market"


4 years 9 months ago

BREAKING NEWS! DEREK JETER TO THE PADRES!!!!

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Don’t be silly, we all know he’s going to the Pirates. Gosh, people these days.

baseball33
4 years 9 months ago

I think Brian Cashman and the Steinbrenners are showing no class and a lack of taste by the way they are playing the Jeter negotiations step by step through out the media

YanksFanSince78
4 years 9 months ago

Ummm..the Yanks have been quite up until now. It’s been Close who has been the ones working thru the media with the talks of being “baffled”.

4 years 9 months ago

Jeter should sign with the Detroit Tigers!

4 years 9 months ago

If Jeter signs elsewhere I won’t be shedding a single tear.

tigers22
4 years 9 months ago

hahaha… leave it to yankee fans to turn that quickly on their franchise player

4 years 9 months ago

What’s up with the “Yankee Fans” generalization. I can’t have a mind of my own? Ah ignorance…

tigers22
4 years 9 months ago

So are you or are you not? You sure made it seem like it… why would any non-Yankee fan shed a tear at all

4 years 9 months ago

I am a Yankee fan, but your comment suggests that all Yankee fans must worship the ground Jeter walks on. My comment is informing you to open your mind to the fact that not all Yankee fans think a like. It’s a simple concept…

tigers22
4 years 9 months ago

So are you or are you not? You sure made it seem like it… why would any non-Yankee fan shed a tear at all

Zack23
4 years 9 months ago

Maybe it’s because we’re a fan of the team. We’ve all loved Jeter for the last 15 years, but the Yankees won as a team before Jeter, and they’ll win as a team after Jeter.
If he can go find his 4-6 year deal elsewhere then that’s option as a FA.

4 years 9 months ago

unless its with my team

ClimaClub
4 years 9 months ago

jeter will be a yankee at the end of the day, it will be a creative contract when its all said and done.

rockfordone
4 years 9 months ago

Jeter better be saying “where do I sign Brian” or Rameriz from White Sox for Chamberlin and Gardner – Cash will pull the trigger

j6takish
4 years 9 months ago

That is a really bad trade for the Sox.

jdub220
4 years 9 months ago

By “Sox” do you mean “Yankees”? Gardner almost matched Ramirez’s WAR from ’09-’10 in ’10 alone. Plus, Gardner has almost a year less of service time.

j6takish
4 years 9 months ago

White Sox trade one of few shortstops who can actually play worth a damn for an outfielder they don’t need and a relief pitcher who with zero value, and don’t use the ‘high ceiling’ argument, everyone knows Joba is at an all time low

jdub220
4 years 9 months ago

You’re telling me that the Sox would like to keep Juan freakin’ Pierre in left? Or keep Carlos Quentin in the outfield? They could easily sign Cabrera or Uribe to play short.

And Joba will be a solid reliever too.

j6takish
4 years 9 months ago

Have you looked at the free agent options for shortstops? Miguel Tejeada and Orlando Cabrera are still considered legitimate options. Outfielders come and go, but a good defensive shortstop who can actually hit, those guys don’t grow on trees. If Joba and Garnder are so good, then you can hold onto them

jdub220
4 years 9 months ago

Juan Uribe? He’s pretty good.
And also, I’m not a Yankee fan. Note the avatar. But I’d love to have them on my team.

jdub220
4 years 9 months ago

Juan Uribe? He’s pretty good.
And also, I’m not a Yankee fan. Note the avatar. But I’d love to have them on my team.

4 years 9 months ago

No offense but Ramirez isn’t all that good of a hitter, I think you’re overvaluing him a bit. He’s got some power and a descent BA but look at the OBP and OPS. His career OPS+ is 95, not good. Plus, over 60% of his HR come at home and the Cell is a bandbox so his power numbers are deceiving.

If I had the choice of either Ramirez or Joba/Gardner I go with Joba/Gardner.

4 years 9 months ago

No offense but Ramirez isn’t all that good of a hitter, I think you’re overvaluing him a bit. He’s got some power and a descent BA but look at the OBP and OPS. His career OPS+ is 95, not good. Plus, over 60% of his HR come at home and the Cell is a bandbox so his power numbers are deceiving.

If I had the choice of either Ramirez or Joba/Gardner I go with Joba/Gardner.

4 years 9 months ago

ya, no way the Sox do that.

andrewyf
4 years 9 months ago

I agree, Kenny Williams is not intelligent enough to accept that kind of steal.

andrewyf
4 years 9 months ago

I agree, Kenny Williams is not intelligent enough to accept that kind of steal.

vtadave
4 years 9 months ago

Looking foward to the “Jeter is God, give him whatever he wants” posts in 3…2…1…

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

I just don’t like people saying he’s going to retire if the Yankees dont give him what he wants…he is like 2 months away from 3000 hits and he’s going to get it somewhere…He’s going to play on a team in ’11 and if it’s not the Yankees, it’s somewhere, plain and simple.

Slopeboy
4 years 9 months ago

No one really thinks that Jeter is God… OK?… He’s just an Arc Angel…

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

Babe was God, Jeter is Jesus :)

Cankersly
4 years 9 months ago

15mil a year is twice the amount he’d get from any other team.

STEVEBARTMAN_MVP
4 years 9 months ago

That’s not true. A ton of teams would offer 12 million a year and I’m sure some out there would give him 15 or more to piss on the Yankees parade of Jeter getting his 3000 hits.

gigantes2425
4 years 9 months ago

Hell would freeze over if he did it with the red sox.

4 years 9 months ago

I would love to see that lol.

theyankeefanatic
4 years 9 months ago

that just doesn’t make sense…why pick up a player just to piss another team off…especially if it’s going to cost you an arm and a leg and doesn’t make your team better.

4 years 9 months ago

The Yankees do it the red sox all the time. They did it recently with Damon and A-Rod, and I’m sure they have done it plenty of times over the course of Steinbreiner’s ownership.

4 years 9 months ago

The Yankees do it the red sox all the time. They did it recently with Damon and A-Rod, and I’m sure they have done it plenty of times over the course of Steinbreiner’s ownership.

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

Jeter sells, he’d get the money just because he is so recognizable and will bring people to the ballpark.

theyankeefanatic
4 years 9 months ago

i’m sorry but the Yanks are filled with stars…the Yanks can replace his face with a new one…and if they keep winning the fans will keep supporting…especially if they traded for a better ss than D.J.

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

ugh If you could read you would see I was talking about if jeter went to ANOTHER team….

not your fault.. I blame the New York city public school system

theyankeefanatic
4 years 9 months ago

my bad…but no need to be disrespectful…

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

Sorry my fault, I keep my guard up in Yankees posts. I apologize

4 years 9 months ago

I know you were being tongue-in-cheek, but the NYS public schools are some of the best in the nation (or so I’ve heard).

4 years 9 months ago

They are. But budget cuts have made it so the teachers don’t care anymore sadly both in NY and NJ. Remember when teaching was supposed to be a good, secure job? What happened to that?

4 years 9 months ago

best MLBTR comment ever. *like x10* and I’m from NY! lol.

Zack23
4 years 9 months ago

How long does that effect last? If the Orioles are on pace to lose 90 games, are people still going to games in July/Aug/Sept to watch a declining SS?

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

As long as he brings his girl friend to games

4 years 9 months ago

exactly. hes not worth 15. go look at the list of TOP salaries in 2010… only 25 players made 15 or more…. its not like 15 is some average number. players with his numbers prolly made 8 – 10.

derek8556
4 years 9 months ago

“We’ve encouraged him to test the market and see if there’s something he would prefer other than this. If he can, fine. That’s the way it works.”

translation: Go see what other teams would be willing to pay you, then get back to us

4 years 9 months ago

This is really daring but at the same time impressive by Cashman. The only thing I don’t understand is why, of all the big contracts he’s “negotiated” (read: outbid himself on) like A-Rod, CC, etc., the first time he’s ever decided to play hardball is with Derek Jeter. At least we can’t say he hasn’t learned something though.

AmericanMovieFan
4 years 9 months ago

Because even last year A-Rod still put up 30 HR’s and 125 RBI’s. Jeter’s numbers were bad this year. Period. His Captain Clutch disappeared entirely. He doesn’t have much to stand on based on his 2010 numbers.

4 years 9 months ago

Cashman is already outbidding himself with the 3 year/ 45 million dollar offer.

4 years 9 months ago

Like Cashman said, this contract offer takes into account what Jeter has done for the franchise. So if Jeter’s predicted to be worth 8-10 mil of a player, he’s paying him an additional 5-7 mil just for him being Jeter. It’s partially to show respect to Jeter as a player, but drawn the line at some point. Also with the A-Rod contract, that was Hank Steinbrenners doing, not Cashman. Cashman did not want to bring Arod back after he opted out.

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

Same for Randy Johnson I think

theyankeefanatic
4 years 9 months ago

Cashman was handcuffed by Hank Steinbrenner…he gave Arod all that money.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 9 months ago

Arod wasn’t his deal. He didn’t want to deal w/ Arod once he opted out so he get a pass on that. CC was at the top of his game. Totally different situation.

bbxxj
4 years 9 months ago

When Victor gets 4/50 there is no way Jeter gets even close to 3/45 from anyone but the Yankees.

bjsguess
4 years 9 months ago

It all comes down to what you believe the added revenues are for bringing in a guy with the star power of Derek Jeter. On the field it is highly doubtful that he is worth $15m (although in 2009 he was a 7 WAR player worth $30m – and even this year – a down year – he sat at 2.5 WAR or roughly $10m in value).

Martinez is a totally different type of player. Nobody comes to the ballpark to see V-Mart. Nobody has V-Mart posters hanging in their room. Jeter transcends baseball and I happen to think that he brings in value that easily adds to what he does on the field. Again, the question is really how much those extras are worth. Not having access to what those projections look like we can only make some basic guesses. However, tacking on $3-$5m/year seems totally reasonable IMO.

4 years 9 months ago

The problem with that is that only Yankee fans like Derek Jeter. Everyone else hates his guts. He’s always getting booed when the Yankees are in town.

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

Every Yankee gets booed in opposing towns. I mean for crying out loud, Nick Swisher was booed extremely heavily in Anaheim during the HR Derby and All Star Game. I don’t have time to look them up, but since his numbers for most seasons were below average before coming to NY, was he an Angel killer when he was with the A’s?

4 years 9 months ago

He definitely wasn’t an Angel killer (.182/.273/.303), we Angel fans hate the Yankees extra after the 09 ALCS. The HR derby didn’t cater to Angel fans because no one on the Angels made it because we had no healthy power bats last year :(

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

Lol I”m sure you hated the Red Sox more prior to 09. After all, they did to you what you did to us, and what we still do to the Twins (no offense Twins fans)

I never hated the Angels though.

4 years 9 months ago

The problem with that is that only Yankee fans like Derek Jeter. Everyone else hates his guts. He’s always getting booed when the Yankees are in town.

bjsguess
4 years 9 months ago

It all comes down to what you believe the added revenues are for bringing in a guy with the star power of Derek Jeter. On the field it is highly doubtful that he is worth $15m (although in 2009 he was a 7 WAR player worth $30m – and even this year – a down year – he sat at 2.5 WAR or roughly $10m in value).

Martinez is a totally different type of player. Nobody comes to the ballpark to see V-Mart. Nobody has V-Mart posters hanging in their room. Jeter transcends baseball and I happen to think that he brings in value that easily adds to what he does on the field. Again, the question is really how much those extras are worth. Not having access to what those projections look like we can only make some basic guesses. However, tacking on $3-$5m/year seems totally reasonable IMO.

STEVEBARTMAN_MVP
4 years 9 months ago

Sign him Drayton. Sell some tickets all while making your team a little more attractive to potential buyers.

Ian_Smell
4 years 9 months ago

The Astros are about 17 years too late on getting Jeter.

corkyciv
4 years 9 months ago

The new Red Sox starting SS. lol.

soxfan0928
4 years 9 months ago

Jeter needs to wiggle a little bit, and then around late January, just retire and put Cashman in a tough situation as to who the new SS is.

rickjimbo
4 years 9 months ago

this would be appalling, the NY media would rip cashman to shreds. I dig it.

4 years 9 months ago

They could probably just go with Nunez, and though it would be a dip in production, it would really not be that much of a hole. Otherwise, they could try and see whether Towers is serious about moving S. Drew.

bj82
4 years 9 months ago

That’s a great idea

4 years 9 months ago

Cue the next 200 plus comments on this thread that will be absolutely irrelevant once Jeter signs. He’s a Yankee for life, period.

twins33
4 years 9 months ago

I am oddly proud of the Yankees right now. Such a weird feeling.

3/45 is overpayment enough. Take it or leave it Jeter.

WrigleyTerror37
4 years 9 months ago

“Shocking news…

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

So the Yankees are willing to offer 6/140 to cliff lee who’s never done anything positive for the new york franchise… but the deal breaker is a 4th year on a guy who has been their heart and soul for the last decade plus??I actually hope he does leave. Even if its for pride, not more money

Mario Saavedra
4 years 9 months ago

I agree. Even if he signs for less, a lot less, I’m pretty sure Cashman will look like a fool for attempting to play hardball with a team icon, yet he over payed for A-Rod, CC, Texeira and now Lee. With 200+MM in his pocket, I don’t think Jeter will starve if he holds on to his pride. When it’s all said and done, Jeter will get what he wants, I’m sure the Yankees will not lose a Yankee lifetime icon over a few million bucks, they have way more at stake.

4 years 9 months ago

A-Rods last contract was the stupidest mistake I have ever seen. With that said, Cashman did no agree to that deal. Reports said he was actually against bringing A-Rod back after the he pulled in opting out. Big mouth Hank actually went over Cashman’s head and made that deal with A-Rod. Unsurprisingly, Hank is hardly in the picture anymore.

4 years 9 months ago

A-Rods last contract was the stupidest mistake I have ever seen. With that said, Cashman did no agree to that deal. Reports said he was actually against bringing A-Rod back after the he pulled in opting out. Big mouth Hank actually went over Cashman’s head and made that deal with A-Rod. Unsurprisingly, Hank is hardly in the picture anymore.

theyankeefanatic
4 years 9 months ago

the key to your phrase about Jeter is has been…it’s sports players get old and obselete…at this point it’s unlikely he’ll be a major contributor production wise to a championship…If they win a WS it might be in spite of him…but for each year of his contract…it will be increasingly more difficult for the Yanks to win the Ulitimate Prize.

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

but giving cliff lee 25 million dollars as a 37, 38 and 39 year old is primo bang for buck..

I’m not saying this isn’t a wise move by the Yankees, I’m saying its inconsistent.

They are free wheeling with Lee and playing hardball with Jeter.. just seems odd to me.

theyankeefanatic
4 years 9 months ago

i think it’s as simple as the skills displayed at the time of the contract year…combined with the age issue…if Jeter was 27…and had been great in previous seasons there would be a believe he will come back and therefore he would probably still get a ridiclous offer…but i think they just understand it’s almost impossible for a guy his age to continue on now that he has shown a marked decline …no one will give jeter 3 years 45 mill at his age…but there’re multiple teams that will give Lee 100 mill so the bidding requires over payment and excessive contract years for whatever team really wants him(the Yankee)…you have to know that…people who won’t admitt it are comming from an sentimental place…but we all know that is why Jeter shouldn’t get anymore than what he has been offered.

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

but teams arent going to give cliff 6 or 7 years at 140 million

so again my point is why do they feel comfortable overpaying in dollars and years for cliff but not for derek.

4 years 9 months ago

Although I think the Yankees will eventually settle with C.Lee for around that price 6/140, i dont really think that offer was ever put on the table. Probably one of the sides trying to negotiate through the media and leaked that story.

4 years 9 months ago

Although I think the Yankees will eventually settle with C.Lee for around that price 6/140, i dont really think that offer was ever put on the table. Probably one of the sides trying to negotiate through the media and leaked that story.

4 years 9 months ago

I haven’t seen any confirmed reports of 6/140, but if they do hit that number it will be because other teams are driving up the price. Sometimes you need to raise the stakes to win the prize. I don’t see other teams offering 3/45 for Jeter so I dont see a need to raise the offer.

4 years 9 months ago

I haven’t seen any confirmed reports of 6/140, but if they do hit that number it will be because other teams are driving up the price. Sometimes you need to raise the stakes to win the prize. I don’t see other teams offering 3/45 for Jeter so I dont see a need to raise the offer.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 9 months ago

How many CLiff Lee’s are there vs SS with below avg range but posted stats similar to Jeter? Yanks could go out and get a glove who hit .270 and then use the other $10 mil for something else.

Jeter has to realize that he is not the same player he was 10 years ago and that $15 mil per IS showing him his respect due.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 9 months ago

You’re only telling half the story. They are offering Lee $24 mil for ages 32-39 and not just 39-40. At least 3 or 4 of those years you’re still getting a pitcher that should be near the top of his game. With Jeter, signing him now, you’re getting from 37 to 39 and most likely getting him on his decline. Big difference

4 years 9 months ago

Ya, but there are two other important differences with the Lee deal. 1) other teams are willing to spend big bucks on him (probably not as much as the Yanks, but still); and 2) He is really, really good, and is going to have a really big impact for the next few years. It is less clear what kind of impact Jeter is going to have. Paying him double his market value seems like more than enough compensation for his contribution.

4 years 9 months ago

oh, and I believe that his previous contract was set up to pay him for the contributions he made during those years. Should the Yanks really have to continue paying for previous accomplishments on top of the ridiculous money he already made?

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

You’re saying Cliff Lee at 32 is good, but a 6 year deal will bring him to 39, for 25 mil per.. to me that sounds just detrimental as a 4th year for Jeter…

Also I think people are undervaluing Jeter on the open market.. I can easily see him getting a 3/45 deal on the open market.. Just on marketing alone a team would make that back, he is one of the most recognizable faces in baseball and the news would shock the baseball and sports community MORE then lebron leaving for miami…

theyankeefanatic
4 years 9 months ago

i really hope Jeter makes his rounds…i doubt seriously anyone matches the Yanks offer…let alone outbids them.but if they it happens i’ll admitt i was wrong and call that team crazy.

I don’t see it. He’d pull in maybe 3/30 on the open market. I don’t think the marketing angle works. At this point in his career, when he’s no longer an elite player, he really only has marketing value as a lifetime Yankee. If he leaves New York, his marketing potential leaves with him, and he becomes just another good player on the decline.

AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs
4 years 9 months ago

You’re sick. Jeter in any other uniform hurts baseball. He’s going to be a Yankee regardless so your dreams are dead

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

your posts have never cracked relevance with me

Just_MLB
4 years 9 months ago

hurts baseball ???
MJ in a wizards uniform didnt hurt basketball.
i think baseball will survive if DJ goes to Detroit

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

MJ in a baseball uniform hurt.

Just_MLB
4 years 9 months ago

MJ in a baseball uniform proved the man was human. remember his whole in
ones when he played golf. imagine if he became a big time Bo Jackson type
MLB player and never returned to the NBA. Stockton, Ewing, Barkley would all
have had rings.

InLeylandWeTrust
4 years 9 months ago

Jeter is not wanted in Detroit. I’l gladly take Peralta for a fraction of the price.

bj82
4 years 9 months ago

Jeter got paid very well for everything he did for the Yanks. You also need to think was they Yanks have done for him as a player. If he was playing in Florida, he wouldn’t be who he is. He wants to get paid just because his name is Derek Jeter. and people keep mentioning A-rod last contract which was bad, does that mean thay have to make the same mistake, just because its Derek Jeter? NO.

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

Exactly… but they are making that mistake with Lee right now…

So which one is it?? Are they learning from Arods contract? or are they just being more selective

bj82
4 years 9 months ago

I think 6 years for Lee is too much, but probably they see Lee being able to do what Pettitte has done

bj82
4 years 9 months ago

I think 6 years for Lee is too much, but probably they see Lee being able to do what Pettitte has done

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

That Lee offer was false. Dumb source whoever it was. Seems like Tim Brown needs to find his news elsewhere.

wait_HOWmanyrings
4 years 9 months ago

i like this move, but it’s definitely a little scary for a yankee fan, that would be so sad if jeter didn’t get his 3000th hit as a yankee

Ray R
4 years 9 months ago

I am not liking this. Jeter is the wrong guy to play around with. If this blows up in Cashman’s face, watch ticket sales plummet next season. It would be worse than letting Reggie walk – and that move put the Yanks into a 15 year tailspin.

drumzalicious
4 years 9 months ago

from a PR stand point it could be bad but the Yankees as a whole could be a much better team. Their defense would improve up the middle and Gardner would bat where he should which is lead off instead of Jeter. Uribe would be a great fit. He could play SS and cover 3B when A Rod is out.

jwredsox
4 years 9 months ago

That has got to be the funniest typo for Uribe I’ve seen

drumzalicious
4 years 9 months ago

Yea one of the gripes about using a phone.

csg
4 years 9 months ago

WHAT? LOL. The Yanks will sell out every game with or without Jeter. No GM in his right mind wants to sign Jeter till he’s 40 at $15m per. The Yanks know that and so does Jeter. No chance this offer blows up on the Yanks.

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

Fact: The yankees sold out under 10 games last year.

4 years 9 months ago

still led the league in attendance, though.

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

Oh I know, He just said they will sell out every game with or without Jeter.

Just merely pointing out that, thats not true

CitizenSnips
4 years 9 months ago

Thank God you’re not a GM.

drumzalicious
4 years 9 months ago

I like this move by the Yankees. Chipper Jones is/was the same kind of iconic figure in Atlanta yet he was not paid some ridiculous contract to retire as a Brave. No one in theirbright mind would pay Jeter 15mil a year to play SS or be a DH.

STEVEBARTMAN_MVP
4 years 9 months ago

Astros need to sign Derek Jeter. 4yr/60or65mil

4 years 9 months ago

with an option?