Greinke Willing To Go Anywhere

Royals right-hander Zack Greinke holds a partial no-trade clause and has given the club a list of fifteen teams that he will refuse to go to.  Despite being one of the leading suitors for the hurler, the Blue Jays are on the no-trade list, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.  However, sources say that Greinke has told Kansas City that he is willing to go anywhere.

Players frequently waive no-trade clauses, often times in exchange for a contractual benefit.  Even though Greinke seems open-minded, one rival GM remains skeptical of that stance, saying that a club being on the no-trade list makes a deal less likely.

While the Blue Jays may face an obstacle in landing the ace, other potential suitors are not on the no-trade list.  The Braves, Reds, and Rangers were all left off of the fifteen-team list.


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185 Comments on "Greinke Willing To Go Anywhere"


Tyler Sekula
4 years 8 months ago

I think Texas would be a great fit if they lose out on Lee. They have the specs to get it done and I think Zach would be successful in Texas.

4 years 8 months ago

Yeah I really think they get Grienke and if I’m KC why not load the farm team anymore? KC will be sick in 3-4 years (if everyone develops and they keep them).

TXHC
4 years 8 months ago

Dang…

Greinke to the Royals: “I don’t care where you trade me to, just get me out of here. Anywhere is better than here.”

eviola1
4 years 8 months ago

What do you expect though, KC rebuilds their team every other year and has a small fan base. Who would want to be there?

HerbertAnchovy
4 years 8 months ago

I’m not a Royals fan and have little knowledge of their system, but they have one have the best farm systems in baseball. In a few years I would expect they could be a much more attractive destination.

4 years 8 months ago

in a few years they will be…unfortunately for KC Greinke seems to be in a win now mood..It appears he wants to pitch in a W.S. sooner rather than later. I’m with you tho, why would he not want to stick out two years then take the central by storm?

eviola1
4 years 8 months ago

OK MY MISTAKE. They’re on the brink of making the playoffs. My mistake. That’s why their best player wants to leave, because their about to run away with the central. Stop trying to convince me that KC is better than they are.

Everyone has good young players okay. And if they have such a good fan base why do they have one of the lowest attendances in the league?

Carl06
4 years 8 months ago

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

The conclusion among Baseball Prospectus, Baseball America, and other publications is that the Royals have THE BEST farm system in Major League baseball. Five 5-star prospects, and ton of depth. This is in addition to young centerpieces like Butler and Soria. They are two years away from seriously contending.

As far as the fan base goes, KC has an extremely loyal fan base – when you adjust for 25 years of terrible teams. Considering how bad they’ve been, it’s a miracle they have any fans at all.

eviola1
4 years 8 months ago

Fine they’ll be good like 5-7 years from now then. That’s not what I’m talking about. IM TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW RIGHT NOW. Are they going to even compete for the Central this year, next year, the year after? NOO. So why would anyone want to be there RIGHT NOW. That’s what I said. Who cares about a farm system years before it flourishes when there are always questions marks whether young baseball talent will pan out. I’m surprised Greinke hasn’t wanted out of there sooner.

Carl06
4 years 8 months ago

I take your point that KC not an attractive destination for SOME people, like Greinke, in win-now mode. But that’s not why I said you don’t know what you’re talking about. Here are my objections to what you have said, since we’re getting specific:

“Everyone has good young players.” This statement is misleading. Yes, all teams have hyped prospects. But some hyped prospects are above average, and others aren’t. The Royals’ group of minor league players is, by most metrics, the best.

“KC has a small fan base.” Whether you think that’s true or not depends more on semantics than anything else. True, attendance at games is low, but the Royals draw a regional viewership. The fan base itself encompasses Kansas, Nebraska, and NW Missouri. They should be able to attract more fans to the K, and many more to the TV, when they do get good. The BASE is strong, even if attendance, and even Nielson ratings, are down right now.

If KC were winning (which obviously they aren’t), Greinke would never leave. He loves the city, and doesn’t care about the fans… he just hates losing.

RoyalBlue
4 years 8 months ago

Kansas City could compete in 2012 if they had Greinke…

Ya just like the Jay’s could “compete” this year with Grienke, prospects take a lot of time to grow, you’re probably looking at closer to 4 years before KC contends.

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 8 months ago

Royals have a lot easier path to the playoffs than the Jays do
i’d say Royals get there first

eviola1
4 years 8 months ago

AL East is not as good anymore as they were 2 years ago. Watch the Rays and Red Sox take a step back next year.

4 years 8 months ago

as a jays fan i’m nervous about overhyping the jays chances this year. its true that yanks, sox and rays could take a step back, but there is a larger gap between them and the jays than you might think. yanks are gonna be the same or better (unless they’re all gonna turn into old grannies this offseason). bosox, though they lose vmart and possibly beltre, just acquired gonzalez and are also less likely to suffer the ridiculous number of injuries they had last year. tampa still has a great rotation, and jennings could be a good replacement for crawford, and tho their bullpen is in tatters, it is no worse off than the jays right now. as a jays fan i can only be cautiously optimistic

RoyalBlue
4 years 8 months ago

Yes you are right Posey took four years to grow didnt he…

4 years 8 months ago

c’mon bud, thats the exception to the general rule

eviola1
4 years 8 months ago

Greinke is leaving dude.

4 years 8 months ago

The Royals are absolutely stacked in the minors much like the Rays were 3 years ago if not more so. They have 5 (3 in the top 10) players in the top 25 and most teams don’t have 3 in the top 100 of Baseball America. They won’t be in contention next year, but 2012 and beyond they have as good a chance as anyone in the central.

eviola1
4 years 8 months ago

Fine they’ll be good like 5-7 years from now then. That’s not what I’m talking about. IM TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW RIGHT NOW. Are they going to even compete for the Central this year, next year, the year after? NOO. So why would anyone want to be there RIGHT NOW. That’s what I said. Who cares about a farm system years before it flourishes when there are always questions marks whether young baseball talent will pan out. I’m surprised Greinke hasn’t wanted out of there sooner.

scottyballgame
4 years 8 months ago

2010 home attendance figures:
Toronto 1,625,555
KC 1,615,327

2010 population figures:
Toronto 2.5m (5m including metro area)
KC 475,830 (2m including metro area)

eviola1
4 years 8 months ago

And your point? I love how you move from KC problems to Toronto. Toronto has a way larger ceiling for attendance than KC. Toronto actually is showing that they want to contend. But yeah put these random figures on there. As if that will convince anyone where the better destination is; it’s obvious.

scottyballgame
4 years 8 months ago

Shows nothing about a better destination, shows that you have idea what you are talking about when you speak about KC’s fanbase. Took 2 seconds to look up the attendance figures. Has nothing to do with bashing the Jays either, as I like them. Just shows you don’t have facts with what you say.

bobrewer
4 years 8 months ago

2010 avg ticket prices:
Toronto $23.84
KC $19.38

2010 beer prices:
Toronto $6.90
KC $6.00

2010 hot dog prices:
Toronto $5.00
KC $4.00

Sounds like a Royals game is a good bit more affordable than a Jays game. You should probably also consider that before you try to imply that KC’s attendance is really okay compared to Toronto.

scottyballgame
4 years 8 months ago

If you would read above and see my response it had nothing to do with dogging Toronto. The uneducated point above was made that if kc had such a good fan base then why do they have one of the lowest attendances in the league. My response was to show that despite having a metro population of nearly 3 million people less, KC only drew 10,000 people less then his Toronto team in 2010. And that was without adding that Toronto’s seating capacity is 10,000 more, and they get 3 home series a year each with NY and Boston, whereas KC has one home series with each. And Toronto had a WINNING team to go and watch!
So again, I like the Blue Jays, but to bag a fan base of a team that you are barely outdrawing yourself is just wrong.
But hey…thanks for the hot dog price info.

4 years 8 months ago

Toronto is a city with 5 times the population of KC, and they drew a measly 100 fans more per game? Your also compating candian vs american markets. Not sure what conclusion you think you can draw from that.

4 years 8 months ago

I find this hilarious. A Blue Jays fan talking about attendance and fan base.

FYI, Toronto (with a population almost double that of KC) had worse attendance than KC in 2010. Look it up. Almost a thousand less a game.

eviola1
4 years 8 months ago

I find it hilarious that you’re deflecting from what I’m talking about. When did I say Toronto does not have a problem with their attendance? Of course they do. Does not mean that Toronto is just as attractive a destination than KC.

4 years 8 months ago

It doesn’t seem like you are very familiar with the Royals current rebuilding situation

Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Actually, they dont have a small fan base at all, and they have the best minor league system in recent history…At this point, who wouldn’t want to go there?

eviola1
4 years 8 months ago

Yep that’s right. Greinke is being stupid by wanting to leave KC. You’re right my mistake.

Motor_City_Bombshell
4 years 8 months ago

Wow. Most rational post on MLBTR. EVER.

coolstorybro222
4 years 8 months ago

I hear they bus in nationals fans?

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 8 months ago

If thats true, that is damn sad

TXHC
4 years 8 months ago

Can’t say I blame him, it just sucks for Royals fans.

4 years 8 months ago

Coming from a Blue Jays fan. Hilarious. The Royals had better attendance than Toronto in 2010, FYI.

4 years 8 months ago

He’s actually said several times throughout his career in KC that he likes living in KC quite a bit.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

exactly…But at this point and time in his career…He needs to be in a winning situation. Also, he has trouble getting motivated on the Royals and recent stats prove that point from experts…His wife is also a model. Models like bright lights.

4 years 8 months ago

Are there bright lights in Toronto? Just saying….

syphercx
4 years 8 months ago

Texas seems to have an endless supply of of specs.

SneakyLongBalls
4 years 8 months ago

That’s ok by Jays fans. The price would have been too steep.

eviola1
4 years 8 months ago

I don’t think people are reading this carefully. The no-trade to Toronto means nothing because he is willing to go anywhere. Quiet.

SneakyLongBalls
4 years 8 months ago

Either way, the cash, the talent sent, the risk are not worth it

grownice
4 years 8 months ago

depends on the talent.

Motor_City_Bombshell
4 years 8 months ago

He can say that now. But it’s called a no-trade clause for a reason.

4 years 8 months ago

really don’t believe greinke is that great, he had 1 great season. others are good at best.

Gumby65
4 years 8 months ago

DM is probably about to tell him to go to hell if it’s “anywhere” other than some city that actually meets KC’s demands

stl_cards16
4 years 8 months ago

I get the feeling something has happened between Greinke and the Royals. Seems like he just keeps getting more desperate to get out of KC.

4 years 8 months ago

I feel like most of the things you’re hearing is just speculation by the national writers (Heyman, Rosenthal, etc). Greinke looks to be the darling of the winter meetings 2010.

4 years 8 months ago

I get the feeling he just wants to leave the Royals and sees the other moves the AL Central teams are making, while the Royals perenially don’t do anything (adding Betemit is not a move by the way). I don’t blame him. Go somewhere where you have a chance to win more than 65 games, get some national attention, land a major deal in a few years.

4 years 8 months ago

I don’t disagree at all. If I were him I’d like to move to a team that is competitive right now, not in 1-2+ years like the Royals. If he is traded to a team on his no trade clause he will likely negotiate an extension to his contract.

TXHC
4 years 8 months ago

He’s just tired of losing.

4 years 8 months ago

Anybody know the definitive list of Grienke’s no trade teams?

TdotsFinest
4 years 8 months ago

this guy has got to be the biggest diva in baseball. i cant stand primadonna’s like him. please stay away blue jays

4 years 8 months ago

You missed the Derek Jeter thread.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Here’s what I’m thinking…

Delgado, Minor, and Bethancourt
Jackson, Lee, and Cashner
Storen, Norris, and Burgess
Betances, Adams, Chamberlain, and Montero
Pineda, Franklin, Choi, and Perez
Odorizzi, Lawrie, Ramlow, and Jeffress (by the way who read the thing about Braun for Greinke?)
Drabek, Perez, and Gose
Hamilton, Mesoraco, and Leake
Holland, Profar, and Beltre
Martinez Mesa, Conger, Moore, and Walden
Rasmus and Sanchez
Hicks, Gibson, and Slama

Natinals
4 years 8 months ago

Whered you hear Braun for Greinke?

4 years 8 months ago

Its on ESPN

WisBrave
4 years 8 months ago

I think they could get more from the Braves if they ate some of the salary for this year, to make him fit into their budget. Beachy and another low prospect should do it.

slider32
4 years 8 months ago

I like the Nats on this one , there on a roll. Trade Storen and Desmond for Grienke and throw in a lower level prospect.

4 years 8 months ago

I’m sure the Royals would jump at trading Greinke for a relief pitcher and a mediocre-to-decent young shortstop. I’m sure no other team in the Majors would be able to trump such an overwhelming offer. Can’t believe this deal hasn’t been done already.

slider32
4 years 8 months ago

This is a better offer than than what the Sox just offered for Gonzo! Not one of those prospects will sniff the majors for a least two yrs.

4 years 8 months ago

Who cares how far away they are? The Padres aren’t gunning for the playoffs in the next few years. If you believe that, there’s really no sense in debating with you. Storen is a reliever. Even the best relievers are only so valuable. Desmond is a mediocre shortstop, those grow on trees. Kelly has the skillset to be a top of the rotation starter (a #1 or #2 guy). Rizzo doesn’t project as a superstar but as a very solid player, maybe one of those guys who makes the All-Star team a few times over his career (like a Konerko type). Fuentes is still young but quite talented, a recent first round pick. There is no comparison. Even if the Nationals added Norris and Marrero to an offer with Desmond and Storen, that would STILL not be enough given what other teams could/would offer.

Ferrariman
4 years 8 months ago

remind me again why the cardinals would trade their only above average outfielder defensively and why they would even want grienke. Oh and while your at it, why they would trade there best relief prospect when Rasmus for Grienke seems like plenty.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Because many many people think the Royals could get Greinke for Profar/Beltre/Scheppers/and Holland…and that package > Rasmus and Sanchez.

Ferrariman
4 years 8 months ago

that doesn’t answer my question at all.

4 years 8 months ago

Because there is no other pitcher the cards would even trade Rasmus for and they have to move him. It isn’t like he is going to be a cardinal next year. The Cards have no pitchers other than Shelby Miller to offer the Royals. He is further away from the Majors then 4 other Royal minor league pitcher’s who are all rated higher right now.

johnsmith4
4 years 8 months ago

You Jays offer makes sense. Greinke looks comparable to Halladay at the start of his career. Greinke wins Cy Young at age 25 and follows with a drop-off year. Halladay wins Cy Young at age 26 followed by a drop-off year.

Drabek, Gose, + makes sense.

For the Drabek lovers, you can’t compare Drabek to Greinke. Drabek was pitching in AA at age 23 while Greinke had his first MLB season at age 20.

Steelslayer
4 years 8 months ago

As a Jay’s fan, i still am not convinced that dumping a boatload of the farm system is worth it. Their starting staff is not in any kind of trouble, they already have young talented arms. If they can get the trade done thats great-leave Snider and Drabeck out-but if that is what it takes please walk away AA!

bosoque
4 years 8 months ago

I don’t doubt it.

Adam
4 years 8 months ago

As a die-hard Jays fan, I’m not sure trading away top tier prospects for Grienke would be a good idea. It seems Jays fans are of the mindset that if we get Grienke, we’ll undoubtedly be in playoff contention. This just isn’t true. Sure, we’re MORE LIKELY to be with Grienke, but what if we’re not? What if, then, he wants out of Toronto just as quickly as he wants out of KC? What if he’s not even willing to sign an extension? The way I see it right now, as much as I would love to see him in Toronto, it more than likely won’t happen.

Big_jays_fan
4 years 8 months ago

maybe we are on his no trade list cause

he wants to get some leverage and sign a bigger contract

or

he doesn’t wanna play in AL EAST , as we know that yanks, red sox, jays are on his no trade list of 15 teams , maybe there is tampa too

the team that are not are rangers, braves etc etc

idk what to make of it but the package they are suggesting is way to high , even without we been on his NTC

Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

I personally think the Rangers and Reds are best fit. And I’m willing to be he goes to one of those teams…

There was a great article about how there has been a lot of talk about a Ryan Braun for Greinke straight up…

I talked to Robert Ford today and he thinks that Zack Greinke is worth a lot more than Braun and I talked to someone else who thinks the complete opposite. Well I agree with the ladder but I do think the trade makes sense.

cusefan15
4 years 8 months ago

I agree, Ryan Braun is worth more than Zach Grienke right now. Anyone have any idea what was up with Grienke’s decline in strike outs last year?

grownice
4 years 8 months ago

came back down to earth after his flukey season? not saying hes bad ,hes very good, but hes probably more in between his best season and this last season.

cusefan15
4 years 8 months ago

Yeah, it probably is just as simple as that. His velocity looks like it was fine.

Carl06
4 years 8 months ago

Good question. Consensus was that a lot of AL Central players learned to lay off his slider (his out pitch, mostly), and let it go out of the zone.

mozelpuffski
4 years 8 months ago

change of catchers; buck and olivio surely helped out

Sniderlover
4 years 8 months ago

Pretty sure Braun has more value than Grienke. He’s got a sweet contract and that makes no sense anyways. You improve one part and create a major hole in the other part.

I think that’s a good trade for the Royals though. But they will have a major hole at their pitching staff.

It’s too bad Grienke doesn’t want to stay because in a couple of years, Royals may turn into a pretty good team.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Yeah, but Braun is a horrid defender. Kind of makes sense

Carl06
4 years 8 months ago

Yeah, as a KC fan I’d do Greinke for Braun in less time than it takes Jarrod Dyson to run from home to first.

Greinke/Gordon for Braun seems more realistic, if the Brewers would be okay assuming not only Zack’s contract, but also whatever Gordon will get in arbitration.

Wrek305
4 years 8 months ago

that’s a horrible trade the Royal would want a lot more then Braun completely lopsided trade, throw in Gomez, and Fielder with Braun for Greinke that’s a fair trade they want good talent for Greinke not a fluke player whose also a cheater..if they do that the Royals should ship Ryan Rodgers off to the the minors..(yes i said Ryan Rodgers because he looks identical to Aaron Braun QB for the Fudgepackers..not too mention they are both equally and easily the ugliest ppl in the world

Koby2
4 years 8 months ago

Latter, not Ladder. Unless you are talking to and agreeing with ladders, then carry on.

4 years 8 months ago

I like Jeffress and Lawrie going to KC a lot better than Braun… Throw in Hart or Gamel too, those guys are replaceable, but not Braun.

4 years 8 months ago

I like Jeffress and Lawrie going to KC a lot better than Braun… Throw in Hart or Gamel too, those guys are replaceable, but not Braun.

4 years 8 months ago

I’m wondering if he would go to the Orioles

Sook18
4 years 8 months ago

Don’t do it AA, our farm systen is just starting to be decent again!! Don’t rape it by trading away, Drabek, Snider, or any of our young stud catchers! This guy is NOT worth it, considering how he has the mental problem of not being able to pitch in tense situations

lazerball
4 years 8 months ago

Greinke has ‘the mental problem of not being able to pitch in tense situations’? That’s news to me. Perhaps what you meant to say is that he suffers from social anxiety, which in no way affects his performance on the mound.

TheodoreRoosevelt
4 years 8 months ago

Greinke is a stud, he’d add more wins to the Jays’ bottom line, reduce bullpen use, and would surely improve the pitching around him as everybody would drop a notch in the rotation.

If you can deal for a guy like Greinke, you do it, and you pay a substantial price. The Jays have a massive surplus of pitchers and catchers, but yes, the “Snider element” is definitely a thinker.

Sook18
4 years 8 months ago

I wish there could be a way to keep Drabek and Snider and deal away some other specs… Possibly along the lines of a Stewart + Perez or D’Naurd (forget how to spell his name, the catcher who came in the Doc deal) + Chad Jenkins or Deck McGuire (PTBNL) + Thames?

TheodoreRoosevelt
4 years 8 months ago

The Jays currently have Drabek, Stewart, Litsch, Richmond, Rzepczynski, and possibly even McGowan fighting for the *fifth* spot in the rotation. And that is completely discounting the young lads making their way up, many of whom are very highly-rated (Sanchez, McGuire, Wojciechowski etc).

And then you have Arencibia, D’Arnaud, Jiminez, Perez in the catching pool! It’s ridiculous. The Jays can definitely afford to shed a bunch of those players for a mega-ace like Greinke. No need to short-change the Royals; the Jays have enough seeds in the system.

But Snider though. Hmmm. Still fear we’d be selling way too early on him, and creating a hole which should be locked up for years.

Sook18
4 years 8 months ago

Question, what specs would it take from the Jays to get Grienke AND Gordon? Realistically?

4 years 8 months ago

Deck McGuire cannot be a PTBNL until February because he didn’t sign until the August deadline.

Motor_City_Bombshell
4 years 8 months ago

And that’s why he’ll never win a Cy Young, oh wait…

4 years 8 months ago

if the royals trade grienke a lot of fans will be pissed and they will suck even more until someone becomes their true ace

Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Actually, the complete opposite. I am a huge Royals fan and I’ve spoken to a lot of Royals fans who are actually really excited to see Greinke move on because of what the Royals would be getting return…Plus you think about the system that they already have, nothing but good things are going to happen in KC starting in June/July of this coming season. The mindset is, “If Greinke wants to get out then we don’t want him…Were going to get several top prospects anyway.” And rightfully so, the Royals are in a perfect win win situation with Greinke.

ChiefsNfl
4 years 8 months ago

Your comment does not represent the majority of the Royals fan base. Just FYI. Many Royals fans barely know who is on the team and the few they do know (i.e. Grenke), they would be pissed if traded. However, the general consensus is that the Royals will always suck because, “It’s the Royals” or “until there’s a salary cap…Yankee’s” or “they always trade their good players”.

Wrek305
4 years 8 months ago

The Cubs will give the Royals Zambrano … no trading just take him.. even though the Royals need an ace instead of a headcase

4 years 8 months ago

I’d love for Grienke to come to Detroit, especially if we can move him for pitching prospects only (and not Turner unless it’s just Turner and scrap). Not only would we get a sick talent but we wouldn’t need to face him and lose 3+ times a year. I don’t know if KC will deal in their division but Grienke can’t be overwhelmingly anti-Detroit if he likes KC.

You put Grienke behind Verlander and we’d have an amazing 1-2 and a decent 1-4. Just need a LHP as a #5 and keep Coke ready as #6 when an injury comes along (so we’d have some lefties that aren’t just LOOGY types).

eviola1
4 years 8 months ago

Yeah, there is no way KC is trading Greinke within the division. Out of all the fans that want Greinke to come to their team, this has to be the least likely. Waste of a post and waste of an aspiration.

Motor_City_Bombshell
4 years 8 months ago

And yours throughout this entire feed haven’t been? Wow…look who’s talking.

Sniderlover
4 years 8 months ago

Seriously dude? People are entitled to opinions and while they are opposed to trading within a division, I’m sure they would consider it but it would take a massive overpayment.

There is no guarantee it won’t happen.

What’s with you putting down everybody?

Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Now you know how I felt after last night! haha…….Very put down.

blurnandez
4 years 8 months ago

Drop the attitude, pal. You’re making us Jays fans look bad.

Motor_City_Bombshell
4 years 8 months ago

I agree completely that Grienke would look great in the Motor City. Although I’d hate to say that Turner would probably just be the start. It would probably have to be something like Turner, Oliver, and a guy like Furbish, because when dealing an ace to a team within the division that the Tigers easily can afford and would have team control over for a couple seasons, not just one, the price is going to be steep.

RoyalBlue
4 years 8 months ago

Keep dreaming!

BaseballLogic_Braves
4 years 8 months ago

Braves could use him.

Now it’s

Lowe
Hudson
Hanson
Jurrjens
Beachy/Minor

Jurrjens was out with injuries last year and never was good when he was here. So trade him for utility infield help, put greinke in the rotation, move Minor/Beachy to the bullpen. Or even put Beachy in a package with Jurjens and get someone worth it.

It should be

Greinke
Hudson
Lowe
Hanson
Beachy/Minor

4 years 8 months ago

Jurrjens was never good? Are you out of your mind?

BaseballLogic_Braves
4 years 8 months ago

I meant in 2010. Due to his injuries. Well, he had a couple of god starts but I would be apprehensive with bringing him back to the rotation.

4 years 8 months ago

Key phrase being “due to his injuries.” Before 2010, Jurrjens has been the Braves best and most consistent pitcher. He could’ve easily been a 20 game winner in ’09 if he gotten more run support. If he’s healthy (and I see no reason why he shouldn’t be), he’s going to continue to put up good numbers.

4 years 8 months ago

And I cannot understand why some Braves fans are so eager to up and trade him.

I’d rather have Jurrjens than Grienke. He’s younger and cheaper.

bobrewer
4 years 8 months ago

He’s also a Boras client (which, in Braves terms, means he’s gone once he hits FA). He also isn’t nearly as good as Greinke and the injuries mean he doesn’t pitch as many innings as Greinke.

If the Braves can manage to free up the cash to land Greinke without giving up Teheran, then I’d be all for it.

4 years 8 months ago

No, that was in John Schuerholz terms. Frank Wren has no problem dealing with Boras. But if that’s the case, then Hanson is gone too because he’s also a Boras client.Jurrjens is cheaper than Grienke. The Braves are already tight on cash, there’s no point in going after Grienke.

4 years 8 months ago

No, that was in John Schuerholz terms. Frank Wren has no problem dealing with Boras. But if that’s the case, then Hanson is gone too because he’s also a Boras client.Jurrjens is cheaper than Grienke. The Braves are already tight on cash, there’s no point in going after Grienke.

BaseballLogic_Braves
4 years 8 months ago

They’re onlt tight on cash because Kawakami, McClouth, and Chipper all have bad contracts. I’m not saying trade any of these guys, but that means we can resign either uggla or Greinke at the end of next season when all of those contracts are over, and Chipper retires. Hopefully retires..

Wrek305
4 years 8 months ago

Uggla is actually a downgrade. He will be more of a bust the Bradley was for the Cubs

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 8 months ago

Gheez one down year and throwing him out? I would gladly take him on the Yankees any day of the week.

BaseballLogic_Braves
4 years 8 months ago

In our GM’s eyes, he’s a trade chip. That’s why his name was mentioned. I would love to hav e Jurrjens but right now it seems as though he will be traded.

4 years 8 months ago

Wren has NEVER mention JJ in trade talks. (at least, not publically) All of this “TRADE JURRJENS FOR BLAH BLAH” is from fans.

BaseballLogic_Braves
4 years 8 months ago

Yes he has. He has expressed that either him or Lowe “can be traded” but not “need”.

4 years 8 months ago

I think that was either Mark Bowman or Dave O’Brien speculating that one could be traded. Wren has tried to trade Lowe, but he has never publically said that he would trade JJ.

BaseballLogic_Braves
4 years 8 months ago

Why would Bowman put Jurrjens on that “can be traded” list if Wren didn’t say it publicly?

Ben_Cherington
4 years 8 months ago

Maybe Theo can get in on this! We have few prospects that could be good:

kelly
rizzo
fuentes
ptbnl

then we offer a lousy contract. Trade doesnt work out and then we send him back!

aaaggggghhhh I want to cry!

eviola1
4 years 8 months ago

Hahaha i would hate to be a Red Sox fan. Lol. Clearly trying to get the feeling back when it seemed you were about to get AGon lmaooo

slider32
4 years 8 months ago

You know the old saying three strikes your out!

RoyalBlue
4 years 8 months ago

As a Royals fan I feel soooooooooooo bad for you!

Ben_Cherington
4 years 8 months ago

Haha I know man! Your time will come. Your farm system from what i know is very good so a few years the royals will be back in business!