Michael Young Rumors: Tuesday

The Rangers announced yesterday that Michael Young has had a change of heart and requested a trade. That's not quite the way Young sees it though. He told Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports that he has been "misled and manipulated and [has grown] sick of it." Here's the latest on Young, who can veto deals to teams other than the Cardinals, Yankees, Twins, Astros, Rockies, Dodgers, Angels and Padres, but would consider other destinations:

  • The Cardinals haven't heard from the Rangers about a possible trade and don't plan to initiate discussions, according to Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. GM John Mozeliak didn't mention Young by name, but says his roster is set at this point and that he doesn't expect "any major additions at this point." The Cardinals have discussed Young before, according to Strauss.
  • It's time to forget the idea of Young going to the Astros, writes MLB.com's Brian McTaggart. The Astros like his tools, but not his contract. GM Ed Wade declined to comment on his club's interest.
  • The Rangers are increasing their asking price for Young, since it's harder to find offense now that Vladimir Guerrero has agreed to terms with the Orioles, according to Rosenthal (Twitter link).
  • The Twins have discussed trading for Young in previous years, but there's "zero chance" a deal happens now, according to Joe Christensen of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.
  • The Mariners will "probably stay the course," GM Jack Zduriencik tells Morosi (Twitter link).
  • Detroit GM Dave Dombrowski told Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports that the Tigers are "set" at second base (Twitter link). Detroit is also set at third and short, so Young isn't a fit.
  • A Carlos Lee for Michael Young trade is a longshot, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (on Twitter). Lee, a former Ranger, can veto deals to 14 teams, including Texas.
  • The Dodgers have had preliminary talks about acquiring Young, writes Ken Gurnick of MLB.com. However, it's "a very long shot" that the sides agree to a deal, according to a baseball source.
  • There is no imminent deal with the Rockies, though Colorado has shown the most interest in Young, according to MLB.com's T.R. Sullivan.


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256 Comments on "Michael Young Rumors: Tuesday"


mike292929
4 years 6 months ago

Well now that half the galaxy knows MY wants out, good luck to the Rangers to try and get anything for him.

MadmanTX
4 years 6 months ago

Like I said, MY shot himself in the foot if he thought spouting off would get him traded faster. If anything, he just threw a monkey wrench into the machinery.

PJaysW
4 years 6 months ago

Doubtful. What team brings back their longtime captain who has publically calledout the GM following a WS appearance. Baaad news.

4 years 6 months ago

Looks like the young hot shot GM has fallen flat on his face. Signing Beltre was a stupid move while they still had Young so now he has destroyed his team chemistry all the while never acknowledge the lack of pitching. Even with some starters left out there you would think he would get a little depth in case of injury.

vtadave
4 years 6 months ago

So vastly upgrading one position was “stupid”? Yeah, disagree.

I don’t think Texas is done with their rotation yet. Probably one more signing and then an ins-season trade.

4 years 6 months ago

Right, because scrounging the bottom of the barrel gives you the best pitchers… The best pitcher available recently was Kevin Millwood, who has an ERA of 4.57 as a Ranger, good enough for a 5th starter. OR, the Rangers could go with one of a dozen viable in house candidates for their 5th starter spot.

Jonathan Stone
4 years 6 months ago

I thought $48M/3 made it hard to get anything for him

Martin M.
4 years 6 months ago

He should go to the Mets!

Rick Garcia
4 years 6 months ago

yes another large contract is exactly what the Mets need…its not like they dont have any financial problems or anything

4 years 6 months ago

I hope so. Send Texas some single A LHP with an ERA under 5.00 or OLIVER PEREZ. Either is worth taking on YOUNG’S extra large pay check. Having him play 2nd base every day would solidify an excellent infield.

Rick Garcia
4 years 6 months ago

no shot in hell does michael young get traded for ollie

alderson has made it clear he wants to get rid of big contracts and not take on more this year

Rick Garcia
4 years 6 months ago

i have to say the way the Rangers front office has handled some things this offseason has been odd but Young needs to go trade him and get what you can at this point

AmIJeremy
4 years 6 months ago

This was the Rangers fault. He did nothing but accommodate them when they needed him to. I think he would have been okay had they just acquired Beltre, but going out and getting Napoli was the straw that broke the camel’s back for him. I don’t blame him in the least. He is an all star, a career .300 hitter, and the team’s all-time hits leader, and this is how they treat him. Frankly, as a Rangers fan, it upsets me that they tried to spin it in their favor. Everyone on the outside could see they were pushing him out. I’m surprised he’s lasted this long.

MadmanTX
4 years 6 months ago

As a fellow Rangers fan, you knew the writing was on the wall when Beltre was signed. Maybe we all deluded ourselves that the Rangers could find a role for MY after that. But, even if he can still hit for average (mostly singles), he is below the level of guys like Moreland, Kinsler, Andrus and Beltre at those IF positions. That’s the bottom line.

I might wish that the Rangers had handled this better, but their biggest mistake was signing MY to that long term deal. They didn’t know how badly his skills would diminish back then though. Now he is pulling too much money and is INCAPABLE of playing up to it. How is his lackluster play the Ranger’s fault?

TwinsVet
4 years 6 months ago

The Rangers mistake was not shooting straight with one of their veteran players.

josepht555
4 years 6 months ago

What a mess in Texas. They might be off welfare, but the World Series fluke has clearly gone to their collective heads. Who runs a team like this?

Catztradamus
4 years 6 months ago

Actually, trading for Napoli was the straw that broke the Camels back for Young. That said, you can’t blame the Rangers for wanting to get better, younger, and more cost effective. It was not this regime that gave him the deal, and the sad fact is that whenever that its a business, and in business, when ownership, or management changes hands, its usually the stalwart old guard, last of the old regime folks that get let go, or are offered severence to ride off into the sunset.

Anyone who is surprised at this in nothing more than naive.

stl_cards16
4 years 6 months ago

It’s a business. Lucky for him his contract is garaunteed and he still gets paid his 16mil for the next three years regaurdless. The Rangers just wanted to get better, which they did.

Todd Smith
4 years 6 months ago

“He did nothing but accommodate them when they needed him to.”

Other than, you know, right now. …or back when they asked him to play 3rd. Awkward to go on and on about what a great, selfless guy Young is when he has such a long history of taking his ball and going off to the corner to stomp and pout.

AmIJeremy
4 years 6 months ago

You’ve got me there. After being asked to move to third for Elvis, he did throw a hissy fit. I could see his point of view on that though, the previous season, he won a gold glove. I was a little upset myself until I saw Elvis play. And this trade business didn’t get brought up until they traded for Napoli. What went on behind closed doors, we’ll never know, but to us, it seemed like he was willing to be the DH/Super Utility player. Then the bottom fell out.Frankly, I see both sides: if he’s going to whine and pout every time he doesn’t get his way, ship him off.

4 years 6 months ago

I think it’s safe to say a trade to any team is a longshot until TEX decides to pay a large chunk of that remaining salary.

MadmanTX
4 years 6 months ago

Which is why I don’t think any trade is going to happen anytime soon. Money won’t be given unless a particular team balances the pot by throwing the Rangers some top talent from the class A-AA level at the very least.

flickadave
4 years 6 months ago

Good luck on that. Texas has very few teams that are a fit and 2 of them are in their division. Texas will be lucky just to move him and not eat all of his salary.

Todd Smith
4 years 6 months ago

…and at that point, I think the Rangers just have to come back and tell Young, “sucks to be you.” No matter how much he “demands” a trade, there’s no reason why the Rangers should just give him away AND pay his salary.

flickadave
4 years 6 months ago

And at that point Young should say “sucks to be you” and stop working out and running to first base and swinging the bat. Just because he is under contract doesn’t mean he has to go 100%. He can just sit on the bench for the next 3 years taking up a valuable roster spot and still collect his cash. Sometimes it is best for everyone to just move on.

baycommuter
4 years 6 months ago

He’s a professional, not a Manny Ramirez, he has too much pride not to do his best. What he can do is pout in the clubhouse until Ron Washington tells management he’s got to go.

Todd Smith
4 years 6 months ago

…and at that point, the Rangers can suspend him and quit paying him. Then we can all make Milton Bradley jokes.

flickadave
4 years 6 months ago

…and at that point the Players Association can get involved. If the Rangers are going to say “sucks to be you” I’m sure that can go both ways. Like I said before, sometimes it’s just best to move on.

4 years 6 months ago

i’m sure the Players Association cant do much when a team puts a player on the Restricted list, which is basically a suspension without pay… Todd Smith is correct.

flickadave
4 years 6 months ago

That just has to be wrong. If that were the case, why wouldn’t teams just place any player they no longer wanted on the restricted list? That would make all MLB contracts non-guaranteed. Why wouldn’t the Rangers just put Young on the restricted list now?

4 years 6 months ago

Teams have guidelines regarding the restricted list. They can’t just put players on the restricted list just to avoid paying them. If a player refuses to play, I’m sure there’s a clause that allows the team to put that player on the restricted list.

Todd Smith
4 years 6 months ago

A player can demand anything he wants. The team isn’t required to give into those demands. A player cannot just refuse to play and still get paid. Don’t be ridiculous.

flickadave
4 years 6 months ago

Yeah, I know the rules. I also know that a player doesn’t have to refuse to play to make it so you wouldn’t put him on the field. MY could do the bare minimum set out in his contract and the Rangers would still have to pay him. If it was so easy to suspend a player for lack of effort don’t you think the Red Sox would have suspended Manny? Is there a better example of a player dogging it with no repercussions? I think MY has too much class to ever do that but at some point everyone has a breaking point.

PujolsHollidayWestbrook
4 years 6 months ago

Young and $20 million to St. Louis for Allen Craig (to DH), Lance Lynn, and Tyler Greene

riotmute
4 years 6 months ago

As a Cardinal fan, there’s no way I would make that trade

PujolsHollidayWestbrook
4 years 6 months ago

Why? Tyler Greene is a former 1st rounder who has shown no indication of catching on as long as La Russa is here and could use a change of scenery. Allen Craig has NO POSITION, especially in St. Louis with Pujols here and if Pujols isn’t here, I don’t want Allen Craig as my 1B. Lance Lynn is a back-of-the-rotation guy at best who is no longer a top prospect.

Young is an aging vet with something to offer for a couple more seasons. The Cardinals window is shrinking with Carpenter getting older and with no significant farm help coming. Those 3 guys don’t significantly figure into future plans anyway.

As long it doesn’t effect the Pujols negotiations, I think it is a fair trade.

vtadave
4 years 6 months ago

I’d say Shelby Miller falls into the category of “significant farm help”. Also, The only way the Cards take on more salary is if Pujols is traded.

PujolsHollidayWestbrook
4 years 6 months ago

I agree that Shelby Miller is going to be significant at some point, as is Zack Cox, but two players who haven’t been above A-ball are the only players in your system with promise, then yes, there is no significant help coming.

PujolsHollidayWestbrook
4 years 6 months ago

Also, you have no idea how much, if any salary Mozeliak and company would or wouldn’t take on for the right piece. I was sure that the Pujols contract would’ve been thought about and handled a long time ago to, but that isn’t the case. The Cardinals are traditionally very tight-lipped about all of their plans and this would be no different.

MadmanTX
4 years 6 months ago

Young to St Louis for Pujols and $14 million.

GoAstros00
4 years 6 months ago

They don’t need young. If they don’t keep pujols they’ll still have holiday and wainright. And they’ll get more prospects.

4 years 6 months ago

I would make that trade in a heart beat. Except I would try Lynn and Skip first.

GoAstros00
4 years 6 months ago

No. The cardinals have already have pujols , holiday , molina and wainright. You can stick pjuols and holiday on the team that is the worst at batting and their hitting rate would improve. They’d get better run support because pujols and holiday are that good. If pujols leaves they’ll still have holiday , molina and wainright. They’ll probably get more young up coming talent if they hav a smart front office so they don’t need Michael young

4 years 6 months ago

What is the over under of Jon Daniels getting fired before Young is traded? Daniels orchestrated this whole mess, from beginning to end.

4 years 6 months ago

Uh, like, a zero percent chance?

MadmanTX
4 years 6 months ago

Uh, prediction: the Rangers will soon hold a press conference and slap JD on the back and announce his contract has been extended.

TwinsVet
4 years 6 months ago

This is a terrible move by the Rangers. They have been trying to upgrade their roster at the expense of their long-term reputation. They might win a few more games this year, but it’s going to hurt them down the line.

Teams get well-earned reputations. The Twins are able to bring in Pavano and Thome at discount prices because the Twins have a reputation for having a good clubhouse, and guys want to be a part of it – that’s fostered by honest and fair dealings with players. The Yankees are able to bring in ARod and Tex because they pay top-dollar. Players know they’re going to be under a higher level of scrutiny, but they’re willing to do that for a premium paycheck.

Texas needs to decide which kind of model it wants to pursue. Because they’re not going to get many “discounts” with free agents or extensions if their reputation is failing to take care of their own.

4 years 6 months ago

The Twins were able to bring in Pavano at a discount because he’s Carl Pavano.

TwinsVet
4 years 6 months ago

Fine. The fact is, teams get reputations, and those factor into player contract decisions.

I don’t ever want to hear a Texas fan ask a player to make a sacrifice for the team. Because when the cards are down, that front office has shown they don’t make a sacrifice for a player.

rangershomer
4 years 6 months ago

It is not the front offices job to sacrifice for the player. It is their job to put the best product on the field every year. It is the players job to do what he is asked to do. He is getting paid $16mil for 3 years. Unless he has verbage in his contract that gauranteed anything about playing time and a certain position, he needs to suck it up and play.

TwinsVet
4 years 6 months ago

This has nothing to do with sacrifice.

It has everything to do with integrity.

Don’t expect employees to be happy if you lie to them.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

This is just a bad situation.. Rangers already had zero flexibility in trading him unless they sent some cash. .. and that was when he didn’t demand a trade.. now that he has, any team they talk to is going to start with 25 Million cash minimum, and probably more

CrisE
4 years 6 months ago

But the zero flexibility happened back when they put a huge honking contract extension on the table, not when they signed Beltre or asked Young to move or whatever. The dollars for skills are the obstacle and Young’s blatherings are just icing on the 5000 lb block of stupid.

EDIT: We might be saying the same thing.

MadmanTX
4 years 6 months ago

Getting Beltre and Napoli makes the Rangers better. I was willing to give MY a chance at being this super utility player, but sounds like he decided to cry to the media and demand a trade. By his very actions though, he made it extremely likely that he’ll still be with the Rangers on opening day and sitting looking miserable at the end of the bench.

How many of you want to trade for him if you are so keen on him and support him rather than “how the Rangers mistreated him”? Uh huh…now how many, if the Rangers won’t pay his way to play on your team? That’s what I thought. Nobody thinks he is worth his current contract because he can’t play up to it except maybe in BA anymore, which is why he was going to get most of his playing time at DH, even if he had to share with Napoli.

When MY gets traded, I believe JD will get some decent talent for him in return. They won’t demand major league level players, but they will pull some guys off some team’s list of top 10 prospects. As well they should.

TwinsVet
4 years 6 months ago

Yes, you upgraded your roster. But at what expense?

Hamilton might just have it in the back of his mind, “Boy, do I really want to extend here, look how they just threw out Mike when they had a chance for a minor upgrade…”

Maybe that plays into his decision or his asking price, maybe not. But you know he’s certainly not going to say, “I love this organization. I’ll give them a discount, because I know they’ll have my back!”

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

Beltre over Young is a ‘minor’ upgrade?

please explain this statement.

TwinsVet
4 years 6 months ago

I was referring to Napoli. That, in my opinion, was the nail in the coffin to Young. The team assured him he’d still get playing time, even with Beltre at third. Then they acquired someone who will surely take DH time away from him. Yet, he was still assured he wasn’t going to be traded. However, word seemed to have leaked to him that they were shopping him, while telling him they weren’t out of the other side of their mouth.

Napoli is a ‘minor’ upgrade over Young at DH. Better power, worse average…

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

If Napoli is Dh who’s catching?

AmIJeremy
4 years 6 months ago

Torrealba

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

Oh ya forgot they got him…

I still see Napoli catching 2-3 times a week though.

And I still see texas going out to get a DH bat, a Delgado, Dye or something

TwinsVet
4 years 6 months ago

Napoli has never caught 100+ games in a season. Only twice has he even caught 82. He’s a part-time catcher. He’ll be splitting time with Torrealba.

AmIJeremy
4 years 6 months ago

He’s really not going to spend a lot of time at catcher unless Torrealba gets hurt. They have Treanor to play backup and he was solid last year.

CrisE
4 years 6 months ago

But TX has had a lot of problems with injured catchers over the years (who hasn’t?) so they might be overcompensating for that a bit at the same time they add Napoli’s bat. Remember the swarm of awesome catching prospects that they couldn’t find playing time for? I think JD does.

4 years 6 months ago

Saltalamacchia, Teagarden, Max Ramirez, Kevin Richardson. If any of these guys had worked out, there would have been no need for Molina, Treanor, Torrealba, Napoli, or even bringing back Pudge… the Rangers can never have too much catching.

4 years 6 months ago

Napoli? He only hit lefties. Trading for napoli makes no sense since it cost them a relief pitcher. That pitching staff is weak. One injury to a starter and their season is over. Their bullpen is not very strong too. Beltre will be busy trying to catch all the hard hits off that pitching staff.

4 years 6 months ago

A Napoli/Murphy platoon at DH will put up better numbers than Young. What Young offers is depth in case of injury (*cough* Kinsler *cough*). But that’s not an everyday position and he knows it.

4 years 6 months ago

I think it’s even worse if Young is upset that Napoli is going to take ABs away from Treanor… Young, if with the Rangers, IS going to have 600+ Plate appearances.

Victor Kipp
4 years 6 months ago

He has too much $$$$ left on his contract to just get prospects in return. The Rangers are gonna have to eat some of his money or take a another veteran with a decent size contract in any deal.

Jim McGrath
4 years 6 months ago

How about Marco Scutaro and JD Drew from Boston for Young straight up and we assume his contract? Drew is in his last year and Scu has an option after this year.

4 years 6 months ago

Why would the Red Sox do that? Wouldn’t they have been better off re-signing Beltre?

flickadave
4 years 6 months ago

Funny, I was thinking about Scutaro for Young and the Rangers throw in $35m

Jonathan Stone
4 years 6 months ago

Beltre is a tremendous upgrade at 3B but I don’t see Napoli as an upgrade over Young at DH. Though Nap has potentially more power he doesn’t make contact at near the rate that Young does and is more likely to have 200 strikeouts than 200 hits. I’d much rather have Young as the primary DH. Perhaps the Rangers would be better off flipping Napoli to someone else….

4 years 6 months ago

Napoli’s role at DH was strictly for when Young would be playing the field.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

Michael Young for Vernon Wells straight up

The Angels knew what they were doing all along…

Rick Garcia
4 years 6 months ago

i think he goes to the rockies but not any time soon this is going to keep this site busy for weeks

4 years 6 months ago

Young and $15million to Detroit for Guillen and Scott Sizemore? Guillen makes $12million this year, but is done after that. Would save Texas about 20 million and give them a young 2B. Gives Detroit a 2B and someone to hit second. Who says no?

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

The team that has to put Young at 2B… he can’t play 3rd, let alone second.

inleylandwetrust
4 years 6 months ago

I say no and there are plenty of reasons why and I don’t feel like getting into it again. Dig through the other Mike Young threads to find out…

verlander
4 years 6 months ago

Well, I say NOOOO in my internet yelling voice. You will have to pry Scott Sizemore from my cold, dead hands.

How soon people forget that Sizemore spent the first half of the 2010 season recovering from a badly broken ankle. Sizemore was reluctant to use this as an “excuse,” but he said the cold weather affected the injury. Once the weather warmed up and he recovered mid-season, he started playing better. He tore it up in Toledo, and did very well in his September call up.

Why on earth would you toss Sizemore away for a guy who has no position on the field but refuses to DH?

Sorry for the novel, but I had to rage.

Jim
4 years 6 months ago

nm

4 years 6 months ago

The trade outcome, if there is one, can’t likely be a favourable one to TX. Add it to the Napoli-Francisco trade to reflect the true outcome of that deal.

Tony Reagins must be chuckling behind his paw on this one.

4 years 6 months ago

And somewhere in Arkansas, Cliff Lee is nodding his head in confirmation of NOT choosing the Texas Rangers…

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

because they are trying to dump a bad contract and essentially now a guy who can’t play defense but also his bat doesn’t translate to 1B/DH

yah gosh Cliff Lee really dodged a bullet here

TwinsVet
4 years 6 months ago

That “bad contract who can’t play defense” is their longtime captain.

If they’re willing to lie to him, how can anyone take them seriously?

You realize, if Texas had said, “Look, Michael, we’re sorry, but we’re going to have to move in a different direction. We’d like to help you land with a team where you’ll get playing time. Who would you like us to start talking to?”, this wouldn’t be an issue.

The fact is they told him “It’s alright, you’re a key part of this team, you’re not going anywhere,” while going around and shopping him behind his back.

He’s not pissed that he’s getting dumped. He’s pissed that he was lied to about it.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

Wow are you an acting major?

You’re being super dramatic about things “their longtime captain”… people get traded all the time its sports.. You think Michael Young cares that deeply about Texas?

You think if ownership said hey Mike, you’ve been our leader for so long, we’d love to keep you but your skills have diminished faster than your paychecks.. Would you be interested in reworking a smaller contract so we can keep you aboard..

You think Young would be so loyal then? No

It’s sports dude, grow up and realize that things like this happen all the time. They couldn’t tell him that they we’re shopping him because they were unsure if they were going to be able to do it. If they told him, and didn’t end up trading him he would be upset, so they lied to him and quietly ( or not so quietly) went about their business..

I get your from Minnesota and probably a really sweet guy, but you’re making way to big of a deal about this.. bottom line, you don’t tell a guy you’re trading him until you’re certain you can actually move him

TwinsVet
4 years 6 months ago

Acting? Rework a deal? Loyalty? This has nothing to do with any of that.

How old are you? I don’t say that as an insult, I ask that because there’s a simple rule in all business: Treat people with dignity and respect.

Business and people who adhere to that reap long-term rewards. People who sacrifice that for short-term benefits always suffer long-term.

As a matter of business, you don’t “mislead and manipulate” people. You deal with them honestly, and shoot straight. Texas failed to do that, and Young is rightly pissed.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

You’re not getting it…

WHy should Texas brass go to Young and say hey we’re going to shop you.. then they don’t come away with a deal because no one will take him.. At this point then Young is p/o and just because you were honest?

You don’t burn bridges until you are sure you can cross them…

If a girl asks you if ” these pants make me look fat” I bet you don’t say yes, so please spare me the honesty at all costs psycho blabble.

TwinsVet
4 years 6 months ago

If Texas wants to shop him, fine. But don’t tell somebody “We’re not shopping you”, and then shop them behind their back. Don’t tell a guy, “Yeah, sure, go ahead and enroll your kids in school here, we’re going to keep you next year” while secretly trying to ship him out of town.

How the heck would you feel if your employer said, “Oh, man, we love you, you’re not going anywhere,” and then you came to find out they were trying to transfer you out of the state? You’d be rightly ticked off.

That’s what it’s all about, and that’s all it’s about. I get that it’s a BUSINESS, but GOOD BUSINESS means you deal honestly with people. You don’t LIE to them.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

Wow seriously?? Now you’re playing the poor Michael Young card

yes, he will have to take his kids out of a rich, private school in Texas and put them in a rich private school some where else.. gosh darnit, how will he live??

Not to mention again, why would they say yes we are shopping you until they know they have a deal in place… you’re argument is complete fluff because you are arguing from passion not rational

TwinsVet
4 years 6 months ago

You wouldn’t tell him you’re shopping him, necessarily. But you also shouldn’t repeatedly tell him you’re NOT shopping him.

I’m not saying “poor MY”. I’m saying don’t be surprised he’s pissed he was lied to, and don’t be surprised if others players put little faith in texas’ word.

Its not a hard concept.

4 years 6 months ago

wow, i’m sorry, WHEN did ANYONE say “we’re not shopping you”?? Shopping and being traded are 2 entirely different things. I’m not sure what your source is, but it’s wrong and you need to pick up a newspaper and read what’s actually being said.

TwinsVet
4 years 6 months ago

They were very public about the fact that Young would be with the Rangers in 2011, and get regular playing time. Based on Young’s account, he was told a similar story privately.

That would imply “we’re not shopping you”. Clearly Young believes he was misled and manipulated about the matter.

Either Young is fabricating the issue, or the Rangers’ gave him very good reason to believe they were not shopping him (only to later be shown to be doing the opposite).

flickadave
4 years 6 months ago

So if Young is going to be pissed off either way, don’t you think it might be a better plan to at least come off as an honest GM?

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

No, because ideally the Rangers would have shopped him quietly and either gotten a deal done and then told him, or not found a deal and never inform him he was being shopped..

it didn’t work out that way, but I think it boils down to the fact that the Rangers feel that Young is almost untradeable (unless they pick up a large portion of his salary)

4 years 6 months ago

Which sounds better?
M.Y. is told he will be their DH/Super Utility Player. Meanwhile, the Texas Rangers are trying to trade him. It gets leaked and Michael Young feels betrayed. Beyond Young, it has a ripple effect in the clubhouse when the Front office betrays their leader.

or

The Rangers tell Michael Young that they want him to be their DH/Super Utility player, however they will explore trades that will allow Michael Young to continue to be an every day position player on a winning team. They tell him not to get his hopes up though as it has to work out for them as well.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

and ps. you use the term mislead and manipulate pretty loosely.. Its not like they guaranteed him a contract and then cut him.. If anything Young owes the Rangers so much for even giving him that bloated contract.

There are literally dozens of players being shopped that have no clue about it.. its baseball, its how things are done, if you tell every player you tried to trade what you were doing, you would have a very unhappy baseball team…

I’ll agree with the fine gentleman that referred to you as being melodramatic.

TwinsVet
4 years 6 months ago

“mislead and manipulate” was Michael Young’s words, not mine. Hence the quotes.

We all saw the stories after Beltre was signed that Texas was committed to keeping MY as an everyday player. And again when Napoli was signed. Texas has been very public about their commitment to keeping Young in the lineup. Turns out, they were telling Young the same thing privately, while doing another.

If it’s “melodramatic” to say a player is justified in being ticked off when he’s lied to, then fine. And if it’s “melodramatic” to say that word gets around and front office’s develop reputation, and those reputations have an impact on player’s decisions – then so be it. But you’ve got a twisted notion of what it means to be melodramatic.

Seriously, I’m actually glad you think it’s just “business as usual” for a team to lie to their players. It gives a competitive advantage to those teams who’s word is bond.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

You’ve answered me 3 times in length and have yet to refute any of the baseball comments I made. I’ll just take it that you’re old school and somehow offended by this, either that or you just live in a fantasy land.

I’ll reiterate one more time… The bottom line is that the Rangers couldn’t be upfront with Young because they were unsure if they would be able to move him.. If you think shopping a player behind his back is ‘misleading and manipulate’ then 75% of the league is misleading and manipulating their players..

I’m sorry, but you’re just wrong and have yet to even begin to convince me otherwise..

TwinsVet
4 years 6 months ago

We know each other well enough to refrain from insults.

You’re saying “its just business bro”, and I’m saying “its bad business”.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

I haven’t and won’t insult you, I have no desire to do so. . All my comments are directed towards your argument not yourself personally.

verlander
4 years 6 months ago

I like your earth logic.

4 years 6 months ago

I am an acting major and I can confirm that this is inaccurate because nobody gives a flying (expletive) about baseball.

4 years 6 months ago

Oh, you mean the “bad contract” that they gave him???? Listen, this is less about their decision to go with a better defender (Beltre) at 3B, and more about how to communicate with people. As I recall, Daniels botched the original move for Young to make room for Andrus, and now this latest PR debacle…seems like the guy (Daniels) has a problem communicating and/or lying with/to his players. And on Cliff Lee, not even an invitation to name his price (in years & dollars) could sway him to stay with this bunch.

sherrilltradedooverexperience
4 years 6 months ago

there’s a really good joke about the dodgers acquiring salary in this piece here. hopefully somebody funny puts it down.

vtadave
4 years 6 months ago

Young would presumably play 3B with Blake in LF, but hey, why would the Dodgers need a guy like Young when they already have Marcus Thames, Tony Jr., and Jay Gibbons?

Guest
4 years 6 months ago

Yeah I’m sure MY stats won’t drop straight from the sky in Dodger Stadium.

Since_77
4 years 6 months ago

If Yankees trade for Michael Young they should turnaround and trade him to the Angels for a starting pitcher other than Scott Kazmir.

4 years 6 months ago

Sorry, Kazmir is the only one available..

rockfordone
4 years 6 months ago

Ian Kinsler to Tampa – Young gets ext for one more year at 16.
Play ball

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

lol nice

stl_cards16
4 years 6 months ago

huh?

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

he made a funny

disgustedcubfan
4 years 6 months ago

Alfonso Soriano, Blake DeWitt, and a large check to the Rangers for Young.

4 years 6 months ago

in an odd turn of events, the guy that originally moved Young to a different position, comes back around and moves him to a whole other team entirely