Michael Young Requests Trade

TUESDAY, 12:10am: Young feels a breach of trust occurred with the Rangers in part because they told him they were not trying to trade him when they actually were, tweets ESPN's Jayson StarkStark adds that Young would be willing to consider expanding his eight-team list on a "case-to-case basis."

MONDAY, 10:34pm: MLB.com's T.R. Sullivan has the list of eight teams Young is willing to accept a trade to: Cardinals, Yankees, Twins, Astros, Rockies, Dodgers, Angels, and Padres. The team has said they are dealing with just those eight teams right now.

9:45pm: Grant passes along some strong words from Young…

"I've kept a low profile out of respect for the team, the coaching staff, my family and the fans because I didn't want to put anybody on an unnecessary roller-coaster. Now, I think it's important to address the inaccurate portrayal that is being painted. The suggestion that I've simply had a change of heart and asked for a trade is a manipulation of the truth."

"I want to be traded because I've been misled and manipulated and I'm sick of it."

Young wouldn't elaborate when asked how he was "misled and manipulated," instead saying it "would be unproductive for everybody, particularly my teammates and coaches. I know the truth and Jon Daniels knows the truth and I will sleep well."

9:16pm: Jeff Wilson of The Star Telegram hears that the Rangers would be willing to trade Young within the AL West as long as it helps improve the team. He reminds us that Texas traded high-end prospects to a division rival for Cliff Lee just last summer.

5:06pm: Michael Young has officially requested a trade according to Rangers GM Jon Daniels, reports Anthony Andro of The Star Telegram (Twitter links). The request came about a week ago, though Daniels said "nothing's imminent" according to SI.com's Jon Heyman (on Twitter).

"It's not our first choice," said Daniels. "We'd like to go to camp with him … If we can accomodate his request and upgrade the club he would like to do that."

Those quotes come courtesy of Evan Grant of The Dallas Morning News and Troy Renck of the Denver Post (Twitter links). Team president Nolan Ryan said they're "going to do what’s in the best interest of the ballclub" according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (on Twitter). Ryan would not speculate about whether the team would eat some of Young's salary, and he said he expects "proper compensation" for his third baseman according to Andro and Renck (Twitter links).

This is not the first time Young has requested a trade from the Rangers. He did so before the 2009 season, after the club asked him to play third base in deference to Elvis Andrus. Obviously nothing came of that, but Young still had a clearly defined role with the team back then. Now he's expected to be a part-time infielder and part-time DH with Adrian Beltre and Mike Napoli on board.

Young, 34, has been mentioned in trade talk all winter, most notably with the Rockies. He was said to have "grown disillusioned about his diminished role" over the weekend, and we heard that Colorado would need Texas to eat about $20MM of the $48MM left on Young's salary to make a deal happen.

Young has a limited no-trade clause that allows him to block deals to all but eight teams, however Colorado is one of the eight. Ryan says that Young will not expand the list of teams he's willing to go to even though some of the clubs on the no-trade list have expressed interest in acquiring him according to Renck and Andro (all Twitter links). Daniels would not specify which teams have inquired about Young.

If Texas was willing to trade within the division, they might find suitors in the Angels and Athletics, though that is speculation on my part. Both clubs whiffed on Beltre and are known to be seeking upgrades at the hot corner. Colorado would use Young at second base full-time.


307 Responses to Michael Young Requests Trade Leave a Reply

  1. Guest 4 years ago

    This isn’t the first time right? Didn’t he do it last year or the year prior?

    • woadude 4 years ago

      Yeah but this time he truly doesn’t have a position to play.

  2. iains 4 years ago

    Well, considering he’s been pushed into utility man and shopped around, I think he has a legitimate beef.

    • kevmill21 4 years ago

      that’s what happens when teams get better. he was a stabilizing force for a long time on brutal baseball teams. but its not as if he hasn’t been getting displaced by far superior players, especially at SS and 3rd.

      • i bet the rangers will be back in the gutter soon. its the athletics turn to shine

        *trollface*

    • Smrtbusnisman04 4 years ago

      Are they only trading him because of his defense? That’s really sad. He just became their all time leader in hits.

    • vtadave 4 years ago

      No one making $16 million a year should have a “beef” about anything.

  3. Derek Florko 4 years ago

    Im torn, does he represent a upgrade over kouz? if money isnt a factor

    • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

      not defensively

    • Michael Young had a -5.4 in FLD last year according to fangraph. The last time he was remotely close to positive was 2006.

      Kevin Kouzmanoff had a 16.1 in FLD last year; I don’t think he will put up that number again but I don’t think he’ll be at -5.4 either ;x

  4. Derek Florko 4 years ago

    Im torn, does he represent a upgrade over kouz? if money isnt a factor

    • Redhawk 4 years ago

      offensively yes…defensively no. I was hoping kouz would be in Colorado. He can hit lefties..but not righties…and Stewart..the opposite. They would be great platoon partners.

  5. Angelsfan1066 4 years ago

    Come on angels we could use young

    • him and vernon wells are like BFFs or something.

      • VegasANGELSFan 4 years ago

        Yea, I read that as well. The Angels would be better with Young manning 3rd, but they would need some salary relief for sure. Of course, I thought the same thing when they traded for Wells, so wtf do I know.

      • roberty 4 years ago

        Young and Wells met at the worst contract in baseball awards. They really bonded after losing to Carlos Lee.

        • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

          how did Arod not win?

          • vtadave 4 years ago

            He split dating/dated movie stars vote with Zito.

          • I am Urban Legend 4 years ago

            Shinjo won that award…he got at Milano before either one of them cats…

          • Whowonthe2009WorldSeries 4 years ago

            He probably should but, at least people might want A Rod to play baseball (personality and other things aside) he is simply much more valuable on a baseball field now than either of those guys have ever been with the exception of 1 year each (according to fangraphs WAR)

          • roberty 4 years ago

            People will pay good money to see Arod play. Carlos Lee not so much.

        • The_Silver_Stacker 4 years ago

          I think they were sitting with Mike Hampton

    • as good of a player young is the last thing the angels need to do is take on another big contract. unless the rangers can eat up a gigantic portion of that contract the angels have no business trading for young. they already took on kazmir’s and well’s contracts and are gonna have an enormous payroll as it is

      • Jonathan Stone 4 years ago

        Why not a Kazmir for Young+$15M exchange? The Rangers need pitching and need to unload Young’s giant contract; the Angels need to a 3B and can unload Kazmir’s final year+buyout. Netting out Young’s deal for a mid $20M makes him affordable despite his advanced age.

        • MaineSox 4 years ago

          Kazmir in Arlington might give up more runs than that offense can drive in in a whole season.

          • That offense for the defending AL champs? Are you seriously making fun of the Rangers? Give me a break, nice playoff run last year chump. See ya opening day.

          • MaineSox 4 years ago

            Seriously dude? I was talking about how bad Kazmir would be in Arlington saying that in that ballpark he would give up more runs than even that offense could drive in. It was really a compliment to the Rangers.

            I know there is a certain contingent of Rangers fans out there who are all proud because their team finally did something meaningful but try thinking a little before you start trashing other franchises and calling people chumps, okay?

  6. Sd_brain 4 years ago

    can’t blame him.

  7. cayanksfan 4 years ago

    Would Texas trade within the division?

  8. I feel for him.. maybe AA could work his magic and have the Blue JAys pick him up somehow, without paying too much or any of his salary (wishful thinking!! )

    • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

      Don’t want him!

      • my only reason for that is it would allow Bautista to play his natural position in RF, where he’s best at. Other than that, I wouldn’t want him.

        • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

          If we really want that then we could move EE to 3B. He’s as good a fielder as Young.

          • Bombastic_Dave 4 years ago

            No. E5 (I suppose E3 now) is there to support Lind at first. That shouldn’t change.

            But if we could get him cheap, without carrying much of his long-term cost, without trading any of our valued prospects (maybe a relief pitcher or two — we’ve got plenty), it would be cool to see Young back in Toronto.

          • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

            to be totally honest, I’d rather keep the relief pitcher

  9. Guest 4 years ago

    The Angels screwed up by not letting Brandon Wood play SS.. he hits .190 with 25 HR but plays average to above average defense. Is that not a quality player?

    • VegasANGELSFan 4 years ago

      Wood is a good defensive player, but not as good as Aybar at SS. Aybar is a vg defensive SS. Plus, Wood would likely hit just as poorly at SS as 3rd, and he hasn’t hit anywhere near 25 HRs with his .190 avg in the bigs. The Angels keep giving him a shot because he absolutely crushed AAA for many years. So far, making him the definition of a AAAA player.

      • should of shipped him to the us in TO in the wells trade, we have a knack for turning around bad hitters *see bautista*

        • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

          wow thats the same thing.. Michael Young isn’t a bad hitter, he was a good hitter, now he’s old.. there is a difference

  10. tbell11 4 years ago

    Mark Trumbo, Tyler Chatwood, and money for Michael Young to the Angels

    • Guest 4 years ago

      When I guy openly states “I want out” and hes old and overpayed there usually isn’t very much coming back in the term of prospects.

      Wait.. scratch that.

      • bjsguess 4 years ago

        Chatwood? You have to be crazy unless the “money” covers about 90% of his contract.

        Is Young that much of an upgrade over Izturis / Callapso? Enough to justify extra money + a top shelf prospect?

        • VegasANGELSFan 4 years ago

          He’s def an offensive upgrade, not a defensive one though. There is no way any team sends money to Texas in a Young trade. Texas could get a decent prospect if they pick up much of Young’s salary, but there is NO way that anyone sends money to Texas on top of picking up Young’s contract. He is a good player, but def overpaid.

        • Guest 4 years ago

          I was being sarcastic.

          • bjsguess 4 years ago

            My reply wasn’t meant for you – sorry. It was to the original post.

            Nothing of value should be going back to Texas UNLESS they eat a tremendous amount of what is left. Right now the price is at $20m or so just to dump him. If the Rangers want a top flight prospect then they would need to kick in another $5m or so to cover the cost of the young talent.

        • I don’t think Young is an upgrade at all… just more expensive.

    • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

      I hope you’re a Rangers fan. Don’t expect any major prospects to change hands.

      • Guest 4 years ago

        I think his handle might be Trevor Bell.

      • tbell11 4 years ago

        No i’m an Angel fan and I no he is overpaid but he still has 3 good years in him and his contract ends in 2013.

        • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

          Point is, there’s no need to give up someone like Chatwood for Young. You could literally dig out an old’ Fat Head of Tim Salmon and a “Touched By an Angel” box set and get Young if you don’t mind pulling a “Wells”.

      • Whowonthe2009WorldSeries 4 years ago

        Don’t worry, he is. The entire state of Texas is finally figuring out what baseball is especially this crazy thing called a “farm system”. The feel like they are entitled to all the best players. They made it to a World Series, so aren’t they?!

        • A farm system? You mean that thing that the Rangers have which for the last few years had been ranked #1 in the game until this year? No, you’re right. Texas has no idea what a farm system is.

          And a Yankees fan talking about the importance of a farm system? Really?

          • Whowonthe2009WorldSeries 4 years ago

            Yankees are ranked #6 right now, but good try. Pretty impressive given the # of draft picks given up for type A FA’s over the last decade. Hughes/Joba/Gardner/Cano/Jeter/Pettitte/Rivera/Posada/Williams all important guys, any Yankee fan who denies the importance of a farm system is an idiot don’t lump us all together and say we don’t recognize the importance. Lulz @ this 2010 Rangers Fan

          • Of course their farm system is ranked high, all their guys in AAA are 28 because the Yankees load their big league roster through free agency. Getting drafted by the Yankees would probably be the worst possible thing that could ever happen to a young ballplayer. You’re guaranteed a decade in the minors if you show any promise, because they don’t want to risk trading a future all star, your only hope would be to play possum until they release you or trade you.

          • Whowonthe2009WorldSeries 4 years ago

            Guess you can’t read too well but I guess that makes sense if your a Texas fan. All the guys I mentioned were homegrown, not to mention the Yankees have the number 3 (Montero) prospect who is 21 and the number 13 (Banuelos) who is 20 and Betances who is also a top 50 guy going to be 23 this year. It is easy to make blanket statements like that when you don’t know what you are talking about, like you clearly don’t.

    • cookmeister 4 years ago

      are you crazy?

  11. Commander_Nate 4 years ago

    Hang up the phone, Reagins (yeah, I know what you’re thinking).

  12. tsblair 4 years ago

    Polanco and Blanton for Young. The Phils could use a 3B

    • kevmill21 4 years ago

      how many days would it be before polanco requests a trade? if we had a spot for placido, wed have one for young

    • redsox4120 4 years ago

      If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

      In the phillies case, it ain’t broke.

  13. Cubs should throw the farm at him

    • Put him at second base, would be badass. Hendry keeps his prospects close to his chest though and they’d have to find a way to dump salary.

      • didnt he just trade away like 3 of his top 5 prospects for an averageish startign pitcher?

        • The_Silver_Stacker 4 years ago

          Matt Garza average? Far from it and he succeeded in the AL East and is a lock to improve in the NL

    • BillB325 4 years ago

      I get your probably kidding on the throw the farm thing but, if they could get rid of Fukudome and make a deal involving Wells, Caridad and Dolis for Young and about 5-6 million in Salary relief for this year.

      • Guest 4 years ago

        Totally agree with your trade proposal. Then we could see what Colvin can do for a full season, which could help the Cubs come FA next year to know what they’ve got in Colvin in RF.

      • jb226 4 years ago

        You’re giving up some pretty good pieces there for Michael Young on a trade where the other team doesn’t have a ton of leverage. Wells isn’t flashy and he had a pretty mediocre year, but Fangraphs still has his value pegged at $13MM. Compared to his salary, that’s big. Caridad… well, after seeing how terrible he did in the majors I don’t personally have a ton of hope for him, but Dolis has the potential to be a pretty good bullpen arm.

        I don’t see any reason for the Cubs to be taking on that kind of salary right now, especially in the form of multi-year commitments, much less giving up decent talent to do it. Let DeWitt play and see if he can live up to his potential if he’s actually given a season’s worth of ABs. Let Colvin play the majority out in RF and see what you really have with him. Find out where the team actually stands going into an offseason where they’ll have some roster space and money to spend and you can turn toward fixing your problems. The dream of seriously competing for the Central this year ended when the Brewers decided to scoop up every pitcher they could trade for. We’re just not leapfrogging three teams in one season, so don’t take money on trying to do it.

        The only way I even consider trading for him AT ALL (and in all likelihood not with that package and with lots more cash coming Chicago’s way) is if the organization felt he could replace Ramirez at third after 2011, and I would certainly hesitate on that score. I don’t think he does, on either side of the ball. But at the same time, the market is looking like it’s going to be pretty weak and Ramirez is looking like he’s on his way out of town.

        If some form of Dolis-plus for Chris Davis is available, I’d much rather see the Cubs try for that. Less money, more upside.

    • Floyd7070 4 years ago

      I agree. Or, at the very least, see if the Rangers would take big Z for Young. I’d LOVE to see Young playing in Wrigley. He’s a gamer.

      • yeah considering the pitching surplus we have that could work out. The problem is the Rangers want more than pitching. I think I heard they want to improve their hitting in some way. Trading Z and Fukudome and another prospect for Young doesnt seem enough.

  14. I think that the only reason they don’t really want to trade him is because they know that they aren’t going to get a lot back in return.

  15. I could see the twins as a logical fit since I don’t trust cassila that much at short. And young is a pretty good infielder, but that there is just no room for his contract on the twins payroll

  16. TartanElk 4 years ago

    Tigers?

    I’ll add to this. He’d be a huge downgrade defensively over Inge, but he would like be a significant offensive upgrade across all the big “important” stats. He could also play SS. He’d be an improvement over Peralta defensively and offensively.

    • InLeylandWeTrust 4 years ago

      Deffinitly not defensively. Peralta’s UZR at short over the last 3 seasons is 1.2. Young hasn’t played shortstop since ’08 when his UZR was -4.6 and -10.8 the year before. At his age, there is no chance he suddenly becomes a better fielder than he was in his younger days. I’l pass on paying Young 16 mil for the next 3 seasons.

      • TartanElk 4 years ago

        Fair enough. I don’t usually go into research on first statements like I did. It’s usually just a top of the head guess, and if an argument occurs, then I go back and do my work.

        So I’m more than willing to admit I’m wrong. I just really want Brandon Inge to not be an everyday player.

      • The_Silver_Stacker 4 years ago

        I must admit have mixed feelings about UZR and these “modern stats”, but I just looked at Young’s TC (toal chances) from 2008-2010 it is flat out scary bad. So now I think there is something to this stat, but still a bit skeptical. In 2008 he had 669 Total Chances in 151 games, in 2010 he had on 379 Total Chances and I think that this UZR stuff is making some sense.

  17. retirenutting 4 years ago

    Can he still play short?

    • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

      better question is, can he pitch?

      • phoenix2042 4 years ago

        getting a little old… but um… can he?
        — B. Cashman

  18. Hardball52 4 years ago

    Sooo…

    Move to SS: Volunteered, no complaint. But SS is a more prestigious position that he had played in the past… so how is that a sacrifice?
    Move to 3B after fielding SS very poorly: Initially refused and requested to be traded. A month later when the Rangers have been unable to move his contract and word leaks to the public, he recants and then from that point forward does move very professionally, but still.. remarkable leadership there? Where?
    Move to DH after fielding 3b very poorly: Initially says he will do it and he wants to be a Ranger, but then a month later under the radar asks to be traded because hes worried about his next contract.

    So uh.. yeah. I’ll always like MY, despite some criticisms he performed well for the Rangers for a decade and it was phenomenally satisfying to see him make the postseason and appear in a world series. But I don’t see anything about the above moves that is some heroic gesture. If he wants to be traded, so be it but its not the Rangers duty to pander to him by keeping him at a defensive position he can’t field to sooth his ego.

    If the Rangers can move him, I wish him luck. I would hate to see him being bashed by some other fans if he performs poorly. Colorado would be a nice landing spot.. out of the AL, in a park that will help his numbers (which of course is only relevant cosmetically, but thats what most fans stop at).. hope that can get done.

    • jb226 4 years ago

      “Move to DH after fielding 3b very poorly: Initially says he will do it and he wants to be a Ranger, but then a month later under the radar asks to be traded because hes worried about his next contract.”

      You’re performing quite a bit of spin there. I see your comment was posted before his quotes, so go take a look at them and see if you still think this is about Young’s concern for a future contract.

      I never saw a word of complaint from Young about the plan to move him to DH/utility infielder. What I saw was a repeated yo-yo between “Michael Young is staying he’s oh-so-important to us!” and “Rangers exploring Young trades.” One team official talking about how you’re staying while the other is trying to send you packing is enough to get anybody steaming. Baseball may be a business, but the players are people with families and with futures and with their own set of concerns. He wants to know where he’s playing this year. And from the sound of those quotes, he feels they’re screwing him around and feeding him platitudes instead of answers.

      Yeah, I don’t blame him for wanting out of that situation.

  19. Gurvir Nijjar 4 years ago

    lets go blue jays time to grab the third basemen

    • dc21892 4 years ago

      And block Lawrie?

      • Bombastic_Dave 4 years ago

        Lawrie will probably be an OF, anyway.

        • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

          doubt Lawrie will be worse than Young at 3B.

          • Whowonthe2009WorldSeries 4 years ago

            Can ANYONE be worse than Young at 3B?

            /(waits for A Rod comments)

          • *thinks for 2 secs*
            edwin encarn….
            it is almost like hes trying to throw the ball into the crowd as a souvenir

          • rzepczynski 4 years ago

            EdwincEncarnacion

          • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

            Edwin Encarnacion aka E6, is insulted that you would question his body of work.

          • Bombastic_Dave 4 years ago

            Edwin plays third. And is thus called E5.

          • vtadave 4 years ago

            I can’t imagine what he’d be called if he played shortstop. Perhaps a nickname that rhymes with Eric Meter.

          • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

            i don’t imagine he’ll be that worse. His range and hands are fine, its his terrible aim that’s the problem. I think 2B or even SS might be a better fit for EE

          • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

            oops.

  20. dc21892 4 years ago

    He’s been treated awful there the past few months. They’ve told him he’s staying, then they’re talking about moving him behind his back. Come on… he’s their most loyal player and has done EVERYTHING they have asked him to do. I’m glad he requested a trade. Texas doesn’t deserve Young anymore.

    • kevmill21 4 years ago

      you have a 16m player, getting older and worth less everyday. you have him penciled in as a super-sub and part time DH. Economically, he’s not quite a fit at that role on a team that doesn’t have unlimited financial resources. If he’s going to be sour about hearing his name floated around, that’s his bag. he can see he doesn’t fit there. now to boot, he doesn’t want to do it. oh well.

      • dc21892 4 years ago

        I understandhe doesn’t fit there. That’s not the point. The situation with Beltre taking over 3rd and Young being a supersub should have been dicussed and dealt with right when the Beltre deal was done. It’s a very poorly handled situation.

        • kevmill21 4 years ago

          the rangers were willing to go into the season with young as a DH, and backup infielder. At the time of the beltre signing, young was fine with that role. now he’s not. ok.

          • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

            In his defense (no pun) Young didn’t say anything public until after rumors circulated that the Rox were still in talks with Texas about a trade. That was after they acquired Napoli and were still saying Young was “their guy”.

            I blame Texas simply because they couldn’t been much more proactive in trading Young or a lot more discreet.

    • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

      “he’s their most loyal player and has done EVERYTHING they have asked him to do”.

      Ron Washington “You mean I had him out there taking grounders and working on his defense and all I had to do was to ask him to not suck? Damn (sniff,sniff)”.

      Too soon?

  21. FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

    Hey, Michael, can you pitch?

    – B. Cashman

    • josepht555 4 years ago

      Better than Beckett, Lackey, and Dice-K.

    • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

      1-Platform shoes
      2-Bell bottoms
      3-Atari
      4-VHS tapes

      the only things more played out that the “B.Cashman, can you pitch?” comments.

      • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

        none of those are even close to being as funny

      • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

        you do understand this comment is going to happen at least until ST games start

  22. good riddance. 10 years of horrible defense, average hitting, and being overpayed will soon be over for the rangers. I feel sorry for any team thats decides to trade for him. Every one makes him out to be a great team make but look what is happening now. I hope whatever team gets him dont have high hopes because theyll be crushed within 10 games.

    • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

      unfortunately, Rangers will probably have to eat half, if not most, of the salary

      • It all depends on what they receive in return. The better the return, the more of the salary they eat.

    • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

      Sigh….how quickly them good ol’ boys turn on ya. Heee Haawww!!! Get ‘er done!

      • Cosmo3 4 years ago

        Bitter?

        • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

          What would I be bitter about. I’m not a fan of anything Texan.

      • TXHC 4 years ago

        I’m sorry. I couldn’t hear you over the sound of home runs cracking off of Nelson Cruz and Josh Hamilton’s bats in the ALCS.

        • A-Rod and Teix, accept your apologies and I.O.U’s from the Rangers FO. They like their rings too.

  23. This guy has been the perfect example of a team player all throughout his career, and in my opinion the heart and soul of the Rangers franchise for the last several years now. It’s a shame he gets treated like this. Hopefully they can match up on a deal with one of the 8 that Mike is willing to go to and he can find a more stable and solidified role with another club that really wants him for what he is worth (not necessarily financially, more in regards to his attitude and what he brings to the table).

  24. I can think of 16 million reasons that Michael Young needs to get over himself and play baseball, if he is riding the pine, and getting 16 million, he should not complain.

    If he wants off the Rangers, I think a trade to Angels would be good for him since his buddy is there, VW, and something like Young for Kazmir and another solid prospect seems like a reasonable trade. Kazmir is nothing more than a salary dump, and you might be able to turn him around, and a good solid young player for Young.

    • bjsguess 4 years ago

      That’s an interesting angle. Kazmir clearly is a salary dump … but so is Young. If the Rangers were looking to eat $20m to swing a deal with Colorado Kazmir will cost $14.5m (including his buyout). So maybe, Kazmir + Izturis for Young + $8m. Texas has a chance to add a good arm if Kazmir can right the ship. Izturis plays the super sub role covering all of the infield positions. The Angels don’t add much salary and hopefully have a solution at 3rd base. They would need a 5th starter to go behind Weaver, Haren, Santana, and Pineiro but that shouldn’t be a huge problem.

    • The Angels just need to say no.

    • PushDown 4 years ago

      As an Angel fan, I’d do that trade in a heartbeat. Maybe Kaz can turn his numbers around in Texas, but I highly doubt it. But if Texas is that desperate for pitching, then why not? The only cog I imagine in this trade would be that “solid prospect.” The Angels don’ have a good farm outside of Trout, Bourj, Conger, and maybe Trout. And I would HATE to lost those guys for another aging vet.

      As for the Young complaining for sitting on bench, in my opinion that speaks volumes of the character of Young as a player. The dude just wants to play baseball, he wants to earn his 16 mill. That shows waaay more class than a player sitting on the IR, content with just getting money. And add to that the fact that Young TRIED to keep quiet after getting moved from SS to 3B to DH, and after all that, the Rangers went out and got another DH in Napoli. Young isn’t the bad guy here, thats just me though.

      • jt24 4 years ago

        maybe trout?
        That kid is the FACE of the angels farm system

        • PushDown 4 years ago

          Oh whoops, I meant to say Trumbo. And I mentioned Trout first, so yeah, I am aware of the kid’s value. Haha.

          And correction: That kid is the FACE of the whole leauges farm system.

      • bjsguess 4 years ago

        BP just ranked the Angels #8 in baseball with their farm. KLaw has them as a top 10. The Angels have plenty of top shelf talent. Unfortunately, most of it is in AA or lower.

  25. Wek 4 years ago

    I don’t get it.

    Are those Rangers fans saying MY is a “jerk” for demanding a trade purposely ignoring the fact that not only Nolan Ryan but also Ron Washington said MY “will be with Texas on Opening Day” and then continue to talk to the Rockies about a MY trade? And on top of that now GM Daniels is saying “It’s not our first choice,” “We’d like to go to camp with him …?” Would you like your boss to tell you you aren’t getting fired but then 5 days later you are fired? MY hasn’t been traded yet but you can bet that the Rangers would trade MY in a heart beat after saying those comments based on how they have handled this situation.

    And why is MY being bashed because of his salary and performance? He isn’t writings his own check, blame the GM for giving the contract MY has, especially for knowing first hand what MY is capable of. Any every team has a player being overpaid based on his performance and every team wants to get rid of such players if they can but don’t go bashing on the player for a mistake the GM made.

    And for those who think MY is demanding a trade because he’s looking out for his next contract, do you really think that? He’ll be 37 by the time he hits FA. If Vlad is having such a tough time getting $8mil, do you think MY is aiming for a $12mil or even a $10mil contract? Even Thome only got $3mil and he outperfomed MY.

    • kevmill21 4 years ago

      i understand about the being told he’d be with the team. they shouldn’t have said that, in fact i can’t think of a good reason to ever say that to anyone.

      the fact remains, the rangers should have been shopping Young the day after the WS, more so after beltre, and more so after Napoli.

      if this request stems from being told he’d be with the team, thats fine, like i said, should never have happened.

      if it has to do with hearing his name floated in trade rumors, or he’s unhappy with his potential role with the club, those are pretty poor reasons. the rumors are going to come due to his contract and lack of set position, and his play has dictacted the lessened role.

  26. Leonard Washington 4 years ago

    Young has every right to be upset the Rangers slowly drove him there. They told him he would be starting and then next minute they are considering deals. He has played in Texas a long time and been a rock, they have moved him twice and broke prior agreements to stop taking trade offers for him. He should feel unwanted.

  27. Stuartsmith1988 4 years ago

    Who is the ss/2b back up? Wish the mariners would go after him. Give them a couple low prospects and eat his contract. I’d have figgans lead off then young and ichiro 3rd. Just a idea

  28. woodmember 4 years ago

    Kouzmanoff to Toronto, Michael Young to Oakland, a Toronto relief pitcher to Texas. Oakland eats Young’s contract. Any thoughts?

    • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

      Not a thought but a question. The stuff you’re smoking….illegal or do you live in one of those medical marijuana states? Oakland isn’t going to eat that much salary and help out a AL West rival. They would spend the big cash for Beltre but not for Young.

      • woodmember 4 years ago

        Strange that you would look at this from the perspective that OAKLAND is the one helping out their rivals. They’d be helping themselves more than the Rangers. And eating that much salary is what they’d have to do if they want to get better at Third Base. No one else is willing to go there, plus they have plenty of salary space (especially once they get Kouz’s $4.75 million off of their books).

        But to answer your question, I smoke weed in a State that allows Medical Mariuana. And no, I don’t have a prescription.

    • Beane loves defense at third. No way on Young.

    • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

      good deal for Texas, good deal for Toronto, terrible deal for Oakland

  29. phoenix2042 4 years ago

    i find angels fans who actually want michael young funny. i mean, it’s almost like they don’t think vernon wells was a bad trade. maybe they can trade for zambrano, zito and arod while they’re at it! and maybe the yankees will even chip in aj burnett as a sign of good faith!

    • VegasANGELSFan 4 years ago

      Michael Young would make the Angels better, but they obv would need a fair amount of salary relief. Nobody wants to take on that contract. We all know that the Wells trade was terrible (except maybe “fans” who don’t understand baseball).

  30. baseball52 4 years ago

    Pipe dream: Young for Alfonso Soriano and the difference in cash

  31. How bout a trade with Philly? Send Ibanez and Blanton, Ibanez can DH and would put up decent numbers in that park, Blanton gives them another pitcher they were desperately looking for this winter. Young can play left for the Phils (has he ever done this?) and it gives them another righty bat. Money will probably need to be involved one way or another. But it helps the Phils get younger by getting rid of an aging Ibanez, and slates Kendrick into the 5th spot and allows a young guy like Defratus to come up for the bullpen. Probably a bad trade but it sounds decent thinking about it haha

    • Whowonthe2009WorldSeries 4 years ago

      Biggest problem is where would Young play and the Phillies have a hard enough time finding 1 solid outfielder, now they need 2?

      • In my plan I said Young could play left, although I dont know how feasible this is. Polanco is kinda hamstringing my whole plan if Young can’t play left. And they aren’t having a hard time finding a solid outfielder, Brown will be fine (assuming thats who you are refering to)

        • Whowonthe2009WorldSeries 4 years ago

          I’m not bashing brown, but they have yet to demonstrate full confidence in his ability to start everyday in 2011, at least to start the season. Hence the reason they were looking at Diaz and Francoeur. And if you’re actually considering Michael Young for the outfield I don’t know what to think…he just isn’t very good on defense I wouldn’t expect him to be even average in the field.

          • I dont want Michael Young, I was just throwing out a random (and bad) trade idea. I know he isnt good in the field, but I just cant watch Ibanez out there anymore. It drives me nuts

          • Whowonthe2009WorldSeries 4 years ago

            Haha I understand, I didn’t mean to come off like I was bashing, I was kind of thinking it through out loud. Not gonna lie though…I love the fact you guys have Ibanez, my favorite Phillie beside Cole Hamels circa 2009 even though since Young sucks and would make your outfield Young/Victorino/Brown…I think I’d be happy with that lol

    • How about Michael Young for Cliff Lee… hehe

    • TXHC 4 years ago

      His infield defense would help neutralize that pitching staff a little.

  32. Hoosierdaddy92 4 years ago

    Michael Young to the Braves for Derek Lowe. Young agrees to play 1b in the short term and 3b in the longterm, with Chipper likely to retire soon and Freeman close to being ready. That is a damn good lineup.

    LF Prado
    1b) Michael Young
    RF) Heyward
    2b) Uggla
    C) McCann
    3b) Chipper
    SS) Alex Gonzalez
    CF) McClouth/Schafer
    P

    • damnnn i forgot that the braves got uggla…hahaha im scared now of the braves line up…can they just maybe give us uggla for free and make our line up better….
      reyes
      pagan
      wright
      uggla
      beltran
      bay
      davis
      thole

      haha that looks hottt on paper…i wish the mets got uggla =[

    • FreeMee 4 years ago

      No. Just No.

      • Hoosierdaddy92 4 years ago

        What’s so bad about this trade? Rangers get a year more of financial flexibility and a veteran starter to add to the staff. Braves relieve the pressure off Freeman and have flexibility when/if Chipper gets hurt.

  33. haha nice

  34. m4r1n3r 4 years ago

    The Rangers didn’t really *need* Beltre. Just like the Phillies didn’t really *need* Cliff Lee to round out a rotation. I understand why they got him but it’s not like they were desperate to fill 3B for this season. I hope Beltre tanks offensively now that he’s only on the 1st year of an overblown contract and Young has a breakout year wherever he ends up going.

  35. Angelsfan1066 4 years ago

    Angels need a 3rd baseman and texas needs another pitcher so why not send kasmir for young and 10 million

    • dc21892 4 years ago

      That’s trading two bad salaries. Kazmir would get lit up in Texas. It would be more like Ervin Santana for Michael Young, and Texas eating a whole lot of that salary.

      • vtadave 4 years ago

        No, it wouln’t be anything like that.

        • dc21892 4 years ago

          Then the Angels wouldn’t have a shot at him… simple as that.

          • vtadave 4 years ago

            I’d venture to guess that Young would go unclaimed if he were put on waivers. To say the Angels would ever consider giving up a very good starter is ludicrous.

          • dc21892 4 years ago

            Why would he get put on waivers? Lmfao. There is going to be legitimate trade interest in him before the waiver period even shows up. His 10-5 rights kick in soon so he’s going to get traded sooner than later.

          • bjsguess 4 years ago

            I’m not sure how many ways this can be said.

            No team has come close to offering Texas a deal in which they assume all of Young’s contract. If you have evidence to the contrary please share it with us. At this point we know that Colorado was only going to discuss a trade IF the Rangers paid $20m just to get rid of him.

            Placing him on Waivers allows the Rangers to avoid having to pay ANYTHING if Young is claimed. That is a far better deal than having to kick in $20m. The only reason to even discuss a deal where $20m may be going to Colorado is if you are convinced that Young would go unclaimed.

            Young has negative equity. It’s that simple. Why you would assume that there would be legitimate trade interest in a guy making $16m/year over the next 3 years is beyond me. He’s subpar offensively, brutal defensively, and getting up there in years.

          • dc21892 4 years ago

            He just requested a trade. I’m sure MORE teams will be interested now. Texas will undoubtedly eat more salary if it means a better return. It’s kind of a no brainer. They don’t want him as an every day player, so they can pay most of his salary and get a better return, simple as that. And I NEVER said he’d go unclaimed, that was the person I replied to. I believe if Young was put on waivers, he would be claimed. Problem is, he won’t get put on waivers. He’s going to be moved before that. One last thing… suppar offensive player? Texas or not… I don’t think it’s fair to say Young is a subpar player with his slashline.

          • Muggi 4 years ago

            He’s not going to make waivers, but they’re also not going to get much of value in return. Jose Lopez?

            Young is a good player, but he’s a good $7-9m player. Unless they’re kicking in well over $20m (and the word was they were hesitant to go $20m with the Rockies) they’re getting nothing of value.

            Let’s remember the Lopez/$20M deal was BEFORE this latest statement, which can only serve to lower his value.

          • dc21892 4 years ago

            Did you read what I said? I said IF they eat most of his salary, they’d be able to get a better return.

  36. CommissionerBart 4 years ago

    Rangers don’t want him (and that’s possibly their mistake). But it is definitely their mistake to have let all other teams know how anxious they are to get rid of him. Wrecked getting any decent return for him. Rangers likely to have to eat very substantial portions of his salary and receive disappointing players in a swap.

  37. Hoosierdaddy92 4 years ago

    A dark-horse could be the Royals. With a bunch of young prospects coming up the chain, but not alot of Middle Infield depth, Michael Young might not be a bad player to have coax some of these young prospects coming up the chain. They don’t really have a veteran leader on their team and Young could be that guy at 2b. Hosmer and Escobar will cover enough ground to make Young’s average defense at 2nd be justifiable. They have 12MM extra from Gil Meche retiring. It really depends on how much the Rangers want for him, but might guess is because of his salary, his asking price isn’t huge

    • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

      well, if Texas eats 80% of the salary then maybe.
      if not, EWWWW

  38. PushDown 4 years ago

    I don’t get why people are trying so hard to find the ‘bad guy’ here. Just look at it like a real relationship, and the Young-Rangers relationship has taken its course. There were many good times, but they’re just not fit for each other anymore.

    You can’t blame the Rangers because #1) I highly doubt the Rangers were trying to piss Young off by making all those moves. Almost everybody has been upgrade ( Andrus>Young, Beltre>Young), except for maybe Napoli, so you can’t hate on them for wanting to upgrade their team.

    As for Young, you can’t blame a guy for wanting to actually play and help his team. He knows he can do much better than be a part-time DH,especially at this point of his career. To me people should respect Young for wanting to play a bigger part, he could easily sit on the IR and rake in the 16 mill, but he actually wants to play. The ‘selfish’ tag doesn’t work on Young, not after he was so willing to shift positions without complaining because he knew it would help the team. But now, there’s nowhere for him to shift to, so its only fair for him to want more and help another team.

    There’s no bad guy here, so let’s focus on the more important topic here, the actual trade. How about a Young + money for Kazmir + a throw-in? Reagins better accept that in a heartbeat.

  39. Hoosierdaddy92 4 years ago

    INSANE TRADE WITH LITTLE MONEY EXCHANGE

    Seattle gets 3MM from Cubs, Aramis Ramirez to provide much needed power and play 3b and Kosuke Fukudome to learn how to hit and play LF from Ichiro. Both one year gambles, but both could payoff nicely. Allows for Seattle to re-plan longterm.

    Texas gets Chris Carpenter/Jeff Samardiza, Randy Wells, Milton Bradley and long-term salary relief (who they most likely will be able to release due to his pending charges. However he did flourish under Ron Washington, is in a contract year, and Arlington is a great hitter’s park)

    Cubs get Chone Figgins and Michael Young, two players signed for the next 3 years at a little less than the same yearly salaries combined of Aramis and Fukudome. They also open up a position for Colvin.

    Cubs lineup
    3b/2b Chone Figgins
    SS Starlin Castro
    CF Marlon Byrd
    1b Carlos Pena
    2b/3b Michael Young
    RF Tyler Colvin
    C Soto
    LF Soriano
    P

    • Hoosierdaddy92 4 years ago

      this is a completely illogical pipe dream joke, just throwing it out there to stir up debate

    • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

      Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

      • Hoosierdaddy92 4 years ago

        I have no idea what you were trying to say

      • vtadave 4 years ago

        Still hung over from the Super Bowl?

        • dc21892 4 years ago

          I kept reading it, wondering if it was just me. I’m glad it wasn’t. That was tough to read. Even now, I still don’t get what he was saying.

      • hahahaha awesome

    • Victor Kipp 4 years ago

      MLB contracts are rock solid. Unless there is a clause for mental issues or legal problems Milton’s contract is going nowhere but into his pocket.

      • Hoosierdaddy92 4 years ago

        Apparently, he is in legal problems. Even if they did have to pay Milton, the Rangers would be paying Milton less than what they are paying Michael Young for this season, and wouldn’t have to pay him at all the two years following.

    • dc21892 4 years ago

      It’s very interesting. It adds things that all the teams involved need. The only thing that I’m not sure about is both Young and Figgins going to Chicago. Sure, they’re shedding some salary but they’d also be taking on quite a bit. Overall, I gotta say, that would be an interesting trade.

    • CardsCreep 4 years ago

      How did Chris Carpenter and the Cardinals get into this trade?? And what do the Cards get in return???

      • Hoosierdaddy92 4 years ago

        Chris Carpenter is the Cubs 7th best prospect also

  40. the rangers could put it on shortstop in the place of Andrew’s

    • dc21892 4 years ago

      I think you mean “Andrus” and why would they move him back to SS when they moved him away from it to get Andrus there?

  41. Victor Kipp 4 years ago

    Good for Young. He has every right to be upset. I hope he lands on a good team and gets to put up another outstanding season for a contender. For What it’s worth I wish the Red Sox had room for his bat and character.

    • Finally someone who realizes what Young brings to the table. Great in the clubhouse, great on the field, great in the community. He’s a great ballplayer. As a Ranger, I’m going to miss him terribly if he actually does get traded. Josh Hamilton, reigning AL MVP, worked out with him Monday and said that if he actually were to get traded it would be a huge blow for the Rangers. Mike is a classy guy and has the players support, I just hope it works out. If he is to get traded I do hope it is to a contender, he worked his a** off through the Tom Hicks years playing for a loser and doesn’t deserve to end up in that situation again.

  42. Hardball52 4 years ago

    And now we turn the drama up to 11 with the Young quote.. sigh. Hopefully they can find a trade fast and get this over with, he can’t stay after calling out his GM.

  43. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    Oops.

  44. FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

    wow amzng

  45. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    Michael Young’s Spring Training List

    1-Protein shake
    2-Months supply of bubble yum bubble gum.
    3-Eye black
    4-Wet wipes for sandy v-j-j

    Lettttttttttt’s play ball!

  46. ZeroZeroZero 4 years ago

    Nothing like running the heart of the team out of town!!

  47. FP_Santangelo_Fan_Club 4 years ago

    I hope the Mainer’s get him so that he can be fully exposed as the average to below-average hitting and poor fielding player that he is.

  48. Hardball52 4 years ago

    Another quote ““I got pushed into a corner one too many times. I couldn’t take it any more.”

    The ultimate professional right here guys. Personally calling out his GM too. In the end, MY is another entitled, overpaid athlete. Nothing more, nothing less. I’m still a fan with lots of fond memories, but hes not someone that needs a pity party.

    • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

      I’m just waiting for the “That’s All I Can Stands, I Can’t Stands No More! A-gah-gah-gah-gah-gah-gah!”

  49. mkorpal 4 years ago

    Got to love the drama.

  50. Bob 4 years ago

    I hope my Angels get him.. If you are insane with trades, Aka wells… May as well go full on bonkers and just flat out screw the pooch!

  51. vin050 4 years ago

    the cards could really use him at short. not that they have the money or prospects to get him.

  52. I would love for the Twins to get him but that $48 mil, declining defense, and the limited wiggle room on payroll will make it impossible… :(

  53. bobbybaseball 4 years ago

    This guy’s a tool. He’s the one asking for the trade but is only willing to consider certain teams? He needs to get real here – he is WAY overpaid and defensively, he’s a statue at third base. He’ll be lucky to find a team to take him.

  54. I am surprised he would be willing to take a trade to the Yankee’s because I imagine he would be in the same playing time situation as he would be with the Rangers.

  55. MaineSox 4 years ago

    I’d sleep pretty well too if I got paid 16M per year to play baseball poorly.

  56. Ian_Smell 4 years ago

    Goodnight, Michael.

    • Backup_Slider 4 years ago

      I’m pretty sure the Indians would have to offer more than Michael Goodnight to acquire Young (;P). That and they can’t afford Young’s salary.

  57. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    Cardinals-Can’t see them taking on money with the Pujols thing up in the air.
    Yankees- Don’t need him.
    Twins-Probably can’t afford him and no outrageous contracts to send back.
    Astros-Shouldn’t even think about it, but then again they are the Astros.
    Rockies- Looks like the most likely.
    Dodgers-Don’t see a match.
    Angels- Could be a match (Young and cash for Kazmir ?)
    Padres- No way in hell.

    • Backup_Slider 4 years ago

      I could see Houston and Texas swapping bad contracts and bad defense: Carlos Lee for Michael Young + a little cash or fringy prospect. Lee DH’s in Arlington. Young plays 2B in Houston.

  58. Even though Baltimore is not one of the teams mentioned, Baltimore would be smart in offering Luke Scott in return for Young. Scott would fill the DH spot that Young is unwilling to play and Young would be an upgrade not only offensively over Scott but also defensively in LF.

    • BlueJaysFTW 4 years ago

      Ya Young would push the O’s from a 70-92 record to a 72-90 record. You guys should def go get him.

    • Hoosierdaddy92 4 years ago

      Scott is actually a pretty good left fielder and considering Michael Young has never played a game there, i’m calling shenanigans.

  59. I used to love Young, but can anyone take a step back, and make this a high school baseball team? because its still the same game…
    One kid isnt as good so he gets moved. he doesnt get to go to the coach and complain about how he got moved.. he works harder to get playing time. this is still baseball, its the same game we played as kids, we never got to complain to the coach cuz were upset… and hes doing it while making 16,000,000 a year?

  60. start_wearing_purple
    start_wearing_purple 4 years ago

    It must be nice to make a lot of money then whine.

  61. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    One deal that might make a teeny weeny itty bitty teensy weensy bit of sense that I thought about involved the Indians..

    Travis Hafner for Michael Young, Chris Davis and cash.

    Logic for Rangers: On days vs lefties the Ranger can shift Hamilton to CF, play Murphy in LF and Hafner @ DH.

    Murphy vs righties lifetime (319 AB)- .257/.316/.357 w/ 4 hrs
    Hafner vs righties lifetime (2,401 AB)- .282/.382/.521 w/133 hrs

    Logic for Indians: They are counting on a lot of inexperienced players @ 1B w/ LaPorta, 2B with Donald and Nix @ 3B. Young can be a full-time DH and act as a safety net at 1B, 2B and 3B if the kids struggle and can also allow the Indians to take it slow with Chisenhall and Kipnis until they are ready to take over. Hafner is owed $28.7 mil guaranteed so it really depends on how much the Rangers are willing to kick in.

    • start_wearing_purple
      start_wearing_purple 4 years ago

      The only way I do this, if I’m the Indians, is if I come out even or ahead in terms of money so the Rangers would have to chip in about $6.7M a year for 3 years. Ultimately this is a team that needs to think about the future, not the present and Young is a player for the present. You make a good case for Young to the Indians but the same case could be made for any utility player. Add to it Young has been a product of his environment, hitting in Texas has raised his stock. Moving to Cleveland, well not a good idea for the Indians.

      Honestly I think the Rangers and the Rockies make sense for all parties concerned. Though that rarely means anything.

    • I don’t think the Rangers would throw in Davis and Cash in that type of deal I think it would have to be one or the other and I couldn’t see them trading Davis at this point but I have seen crazier things this off season.

  62. TXHC 4 years ago

    You must not have watched Young play 3B the past two seasons.

  63. he’d be a perfect fit in tampa, if they have the money…

  64. Just thought I would throw it out there cause I am sick of reading people put this out there: Michael Young cannot play 2nd or SS anymore, he can barely play 3rd. I would greatly appreciate people to stop speculating he could somehow suddenly greatly improve defensively. Oh and Brian Cashman, he cannot pitch.

  65. CommissionerBart 4 years ago

    8 teams, 5 NL and 3 AL. Young can certainly play the field but perhaps it makes more sense to stay in the AL where he can be a regular in the field and DH once in a while.

    I’m intrigued by the idea of his going to the Twins to man a spot somewhere in the infield. I have doubts as to when Morneau will be ready.

    No matter where he’s traded, Rangers are going to have to eat huge portion of salary as they’ve backed themselves into a corner.

  66. $3081341 4 years ago

    Just trade him + $$$ for a promising young pitcher. Who’s got the best of the bunch. If you have to trade within the division you will.

  67. Drew Tweedie 4 years ago

    Young: “No one puts Mikey in a corner!”

    MLBTR: “No one puts Mikey in a corner.”

  68. if you are a hitter, how stupid do you have to be, to hire an agent that would allow you to block a trade to Colorado.

    • InLeylandWeTrust 4 years ago

      Maybe you don’t want to live in Colorado? Maybe you prefer the AL? Maybe you don’t want to play for the Rockies?

      Jeez. How dumb would it be for a pitcher to block a trade to Seattle?

      • mrmack85 4 years ago

        Or San Diego (in reference to a pitcher blocking a trade to the 2 biggest pitchers parks…not counting San Fran….Oakland…blah blah blah). Personally I think he just needs to get off his high horse and suck it the f up.

  69. Mike C. 4 years ago

    Michael Young is grossly overpaid…

    Hardly a superstar player…

    He is an average to below average player outside of Texas…

    He is in the declining years of his career.

    There is no team in baseball who would take Young for free and absorb his bloated contract (except maybe the idiotic Angels)

    He should have kept his mouth shut!

    • How is he average to below average outside of Texas? Because he hits so many bombs in our hitter friendly stadium? He hits for average and some power, not the other way around. 10 year career, averaging 190 hits a year over that span. Now go do your research and see how many other players have averaged that many hits a year over the last 10 years.

  70. Dear Kenny Williams,

    Get on the phone. We know we’re broke, but that hasn’t stopped you before. Third base is our biggest hole. I’m high on Morel too but we can always ship Teahan’s crazy contract away. Get the job done.
    s

  71. This went from years of Texas saying to MY “know your role and shut your mouth”. To now saying “we don’t know your role…but still shut your mouth!”

  72. twins33 4 years ago

    It’s nice to see the Twins on someone’s approved trade list for once. It’s always the “no trade” list. He fits the Twins need of a RH bat who can hit lefties. That being said, there’s no room for him in dollars or a place for him on the roster.

  73. redlake 4 years ago

    James Loney and Elbert…Texas eats 10 mill. Young to third Blake platoon at first

  74. neoncactus 4 years ago

    What a baby! For supposedly being a team leader, he’s had his share of negative publicity. He refused to move from shortstop to third base, until he was finally told that he was going to move there, and then he gave his blessing to the move. And putting Andrus at short was an outstanding move.

    A team leader does whatever they can for the best interests of the team, not just themselves. There are trade rumors all the time, that’s just a part of the business, and MY is not above that. Also, if he’d just shut up and play, and be the team leader that is part of his image, when his contract is up, he’s going to be 37, so at that point, he’s probably going to be viewed as a utility infielder and/or DH. So I don’t understand his point.

    • InLeylandWeTrust 4 years ago

      His point was being told that he is staying put, and they are not trading him, yet they were pursuing trade options anyways.

      • neoncactus 4 years ago

        While I think the Rangers shouldn’t have publicly said they weren’t trading him, the reality is that if there are teams interested, the Rangers are going to listen. He’s not worth $16 million per year, and if they can save some money on the deal and put it towards keeping Hamilton and Cruz, of course they have to look at it.

        Players better than Young get traded and it’s part of the game, but apparently Young takes offense to the rumors…so now he wants to be traded?

        • InLeylandWeTrust 4 years ago

          The point isn’t him being traded to upgrade the club, Texas would be doing a very poor job if they wern’t at least exploring the possibility of unloading that contract. They did not do a good job handling the situation. You can’t say one thing then do another. They told Young they aren’t shopping him, and he was staying put. But in reality, they were trying to trade him.

          That is where Young is coming from. That is why he feels misled and decieved. The Rangers front office should have never told him he wasn’t being traded.

          • neoncactus 4 years ago

            So because he feels misled that they are trying to trade him, he demands a trade? And will this “team leader” be a clubhouse cancer if he isn’t traded? I can understand his frustration, but supposedly he’s a professional and it happens. So he needs to act like a professional. If he’s with the team, he’s still going to get plenty of at bats.

            So what he’s essentially doing is making it harder for the Rangers to trade him because they’re not necessarily going to get strong offers with teams knowing he wants out. Great leadership, Michael!

        • Takes offense to the lies, not the rumors. Takes offense to the lies. He was being told that he wasn’t involved in any trade talks, while he was involved. Nobody likes being lied to, especially when they are sacrificing for the better of the people that are lying to them.

          • neoncactus 4 years ago

            Sure, nobody likes being lied to. How is he sacrificing for the better? He could have said no, you’re not moving me off third base, and it’s not his call. He’s a player, not the manager or GM. He can’t even force them to trade him. He has three years on his contract. He’s getting paid $16 million per year, and he would still be in the starting lineup on most occasions. If they said, hey, we want to sign Hamilton long term, would you mind giving up $4 million of your salary so we can afford it? That would be a sacrifice.

    • He moved from 2nd to short, and then from short to 3rd, and then OK’d moving to DH in order to better the team. Of course he was upset about moving from short, he went to 5 straight all star games and won a gold glove there, and they were moving him for a 19 year old unproven kid. Elvis has obviously turned out to be a good move, but at the time you don’t think you would have been upset? I don’t know what you do for a living, but imagine being in the top 5-10 in the world at what you do and then having your boss tell you that they’re giving your job to an unproven kid fresh out of school and moving you to a different position within the company. You would just take it laying down? Is that what you’re saying here?

      • neoncactus 4 years ago

        Professional sports and real world jobs really aren’t similar. In Young’s case, yes, he was moving positions, but he was still going to be starting, and things turned out great. There was no way to know how Andrus was going to be, but it’s not like someone being replaced by a new hire to a company, Andrus had played in the minor leagues, so they knew what he was capable of doing. And quite honestly, if I was told I was changing responsibilities, the fact that I would be making $16 million per year and would still have one of the top 8 most important everyday positions in the company would certainly help my team spirit and attitude! In fact, if Young had a real job, he would probably be fired after publicly saying he didn’t want to work for them anymore.

        Just a comparison, since I’m a Dodger fan. There have been rumors in the media all winter about moving Casey Blake to left field, to first, to the bench. James Loney has been the subject of trade rumors, people saying they need to get rid of him. I haven’t heard one public word from either of those players, no complaints, no demands for trades. Maybe they’re just a lot more professional than Young.

  75. optionn 4 years ago

    The guy should stop crying. He is getting paid huge money for the next 3 years and he is still worried about his next contract? Nobody wants your old, overpaid self. If the Rangers could cut him and not pay him they would in a second.

  76. can’t blame the guy for feeling misled the entire offseason.

  77. MadmanTX 4 years ago

    There’s a difference between actively trying to trade a player and listening to other team’s offers.

  78. DJGreen47 4 years ago

    Kyle Lohse and Nick Stavinoha for Michael Young? Too much? Too Little?

  79. So if the Rangers just eat $40 million of the $48 million Young is owed, he COULD be a Padre. :(

  80. I think there’s a difference between shopping a player and listening to offers. Management’s job is to try to get the best team together that they can, and if Colorado came to the Rangers and offered a particular package for Young, and Jon Daniels was discussing this package, is this trying to trade Young or doing his job?

  81. Guest 4 years ago

    thanks

  82. bbxxj 4 years ago

    Mets have no cash and would need almost all of his contract picked up by Texas.

  83. Any one thinkin he plays ss as his major position and a straight up trade of jose reyes for him

  84. That would be a flat up brutal deal for the Mets.

  85. then some money along with young…they need money and they need to get rid of reyes…young wouldnt be a bad move

  86. Ferrariman 4 years ago

    why do they need to get rid of Reyes? The draft pick compensation if he walks is worth more than Young.

  87. mwagner26 4 years ago

    Rangers already have a short-stop.

  88. AH, You a Mets fan? No Mets fan would want to dump Jose REYES for Michael YOUNG, not that YOUNG is not a good player. The man will be 35 this year, while REYES will just turn 28 with a good 7-10 years of play ahead of him while YOUNG, who’s numbers did decline last season may be fading as we write. Can’t replace 40-50 stolen bases or the best table setter in the NL. Now getting YOUNG for another player, so called prospects maybe, to play 2nd base would be great.

  89. idk he is gonna be traded by the end of the year anyways… theres no way the mets will spend what jose wants for next off season…its just not worth it for just speed…i think the mets need more of a power line up…young brings more power even if it is just 20 hr a season…its an improvement from reyes..he would be a pretty good #2 hitter behind pagan then backed up by wright beltran bay davis emaus thole since their players are becoming more healthy their line up is lookin prettyscary if you ask me.. what team in the nl has a better line up than this (if they are all healthy)

  90. You must not pay attention to baseball at all. Young is a career .300 hitter that in his career has averaged 154 games a season and 190 hits a season. Reyes is a more talented athlete, but in terms of a baseball player? He isn’t good enough to carry Young’s jock strap. I am a lifelong Rangers fan, and Michael Young is my favorite player. I’m devastated that he has requested a trade. I’m just hoping he comes to spring training, remembers how much he loves his teammates and manager, and decides to stick it out for a year and see what happens.

  91. Whowonthe2009WorldSeries 4 years ago

    Funniest comment on here^^. Do people still think Gold Gloves mean anything? Its like since he’s played 3 positions he must be good, because thats 2 more than Jeter, Longoria and Utley! He is a horrific fielder. Period.

  92. woodmember 4 years ago

    Are we looking at the same stats? Young’s a .300 career hitter that averages about 20 homers a year. Kouz is a .250 hitter that averages about 15 home runs a year.

    The bottom line is that I’m an A’s fan, and I think we’re only missing one piece (at third base) to win the division.

  93. Whowonthe2009WorldSeries 4 years ago

    Aww man you got me lol, that actually was a good one

  94. phoenix2042 4 years ago

    derek jeter plans to challenge you in a year’s time. or maybe he will push the challenge one step further and take his “defensive skills” to center field. then, on advice from cashman, he will attempt to come back as a pitcher. derek jeter is competitiveness incarnate.

  95. woodmember 4 years ago

    I guess we’re just going to have to agree to disagree.

    If the A’s are going to get any better, they’re going to have to over-pay for hitting. Obviously pitchers (trying to revive their careers) will come there for a discount to inflate their own numbers.

    From what I’ve read, Young is a good clubhouse guy (something Beane puts a lot of stock in) and bringing him on to a division rival should give him motivation to over-perform. Who knows…

  96. woodmember 4 years ago

    Fine, I’ll bite.

    1. The A’s already have one of the best defenses in the league. Declining at one position to add extra power (and average) to the line up is well worth Young’s shortcomings on defense. WELL WORTH IT.

    2. What evidence do you have that Young’s offense is declining? He hit over 20 home runs last year while batting .284. That doesn’t sound like declining, that sounds right in line with his average.

    3. I’ve already outlined why his salary requirements don’t (or shouldn’t) matter to the A’s. They are going to have to overpay every year for offense, and were willing to pay much more than $48 million for Beltre who isn’t NEARLY as consistent as Young.

    Anyway, I think that pretty much ends that debate. Obviously I am right and you are wrong.

    Oh, and I hate Freedom because the word is deceiving. It ISN’T “free”.

  97. woodmember 4 years ago

    Who’s trolling who here? Beltre is a “one year wonder” when that year happens to be a contract year. Young is consistently good. C.O.N.S.I.S.T.E.N.T.

    Granted, I don’t know what “bsns”, “ISO” or “wOBA” means, but I do know what a career .300 batter and 20 home run a year guy means. He means an upgrade over Kouzmanoff.

  98. MaineSox 4 years ago

    What are you doing guy? Didn’t you read that he already pretty much ended the debate? That’s like arguing whether global warming is man made or not, the debate is settled. Obviously he is right and you are wrong. WATCH THE GAMES!!!

  99. Hoosierdaddy92 4 years ago

    I don’t really know if the Braves really need Lowe with Hudson, Hanson, Jurrgens, and Minor/Beachy/Teheran to fight it out for the last two spots. The main benefit of this trade for ATL is not Young at 1b, its the fact that Young can play 3b when/if Chipper gets injured and most likely retires after this season.

  100. woodmember 4 years ago

    Thanks for the support, although I think your sarcasm for the comment is almost as heavy as the actual comment – which itself was made sarcastically.

  101. woodmember 4 years ago

    Well, I’m done. +6 UZR? wOBA? I don’t even know what you’re talking about. I’m just a baseball fan, not a Quantum Physicist.

  102. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    Yes I can. I’ve got a filthy FB and a wicked curve. However, I’d rather stick to what I do best and that’s swing for the fences. Chicks dig the long ball and I’m ballin’.

  103. FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

    now i just think you’re a troll. a very hilarious troll

    seriously, tell me. What’s your comment-like ratio

  104. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    So how long before he says to B. Cashman, “I’m willing to try”?

  105. MaineSox 4 years ago

    No problem man, I’ve got your back.

  106. roberty 4 years ago

    Reyes wont get more than Young makes annualy on the free agent market. If the Mets are going to deal Reyes it should be for prospects to help rebuild their farm system, not an overpaid infielder.

  107. df7215 4 years ago

    if only the real world was a video game…

  108. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    “There’s hope!”

    M.Mora

  109. FreeMee 4 years ago

    The last thing Atlanta needs is an aging over payed player who cannot play CF. Not saying he’s a bad player or that it is a bad trade but there are a lot better options.

  110. FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

    i doubt many quantum physicists even know what they are

  111. Whowonthe2009WorldSeries 4 years ago

    Not to try and gang up on you, but there are MANY more important stats than batting average and home runs. That doesn’t mean they are obsolete, but in the current baseball world, that is barely scratching the surface. For example, fielding percentage is…well…useless in a lot of ways. Defense is measured in terms of dWAR and UZR and just so you know Michael Young is AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL in terms of defense. Gold Gloves =/= being a good or even average defender (a.k.a. Derek Jeter)

  112. Drew Tweedie 4 years ago

    My favorite part was when “bsns” was seemingly listed as a stat.

  113. Drew Tweedie 4 years ago

    My favorite part is when “bsns” is listed as a stat.

  114. FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

    i see your comments, but i cant see your likes

  115. It really is terrible that he was basically forced out of being a lifetime ranger by the media spreading rumors.

    It will be sad to see Young in another uniform.

  116. vtadave 4 years ago

    If the A’s were going to overpay for hitting, they would have spent another $16 million a year on the free agent market on a guy actually worth near that amount.

  117. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    Dude…I am running with it!! I had to google it and I’ve been able to work it into 2 conversations today…haha. I called one of my neighbor’s kids one today and the little piece of crap was lost for words for the first time ever. And I ended it with “son” to give it a little urban flair. “Stop being a sandy v-j-j …son. Naaw mean’?”.

  118. good one

    –B. Cashman

  119. stl_cards16 4 years ago

    Now you’re catching on!! Nicely played

  120. bjsguess 4 years ago

    woodmember –

    It will help you out tremendously to do some basic research on statistics. You don’t need to start building your own statistical models but learning about UZR, wOBA, wRCA+, will all greatly help you in discussing a players value.

    Also, keep in mind that Young’s career statistics carry little relevance. You are not getting Michael Young of 2002. You are acquiring a player who is in major decline, who will continue to decline, who is paid like a superstar.

  121. Redsox1324 4 years ago

    Is this playful banter between a Red Sox fan and Yankees fan!?

    ….and I thought the situation in Egypt was bad….

  122. I am Urban Legend 4 years ago

    I agree = if mets trade reyes it should be for prospects
    I disagree = if reyes has a year closer to 06-08…he makes 18-20 mil per year..not 16..

  123. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    (GASP) He’s a Red Sox fan? Seriously?

  124. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    Even though he had an off 2010, Blackburn is a relatively inexpensive innings eater owed only 3/$13 mil. I wouldn’t include him in a trade for Young especially since theirpitching depth isn’t that great. No one should be in a hurry to give up anything remotely useful on the mlb level unless it’s a bad contract……like Wells/Zito/Roawnd kind of bad. I wouldn’t even include AJ Burnett in a deal for Young.

  125. Rashomon 4 years ago

    I don’t think Young could bat fourth if he just batted second. What if he gets on base? I agree that the Twins should look at him and I’d be happy if they got his contract down to 15-17 million and got rid of Kubel and Perkins in the deal.

  126. alphakira 4 years ago

    Why do you scream LAST names??

  127. slider32 4 years ago

    No loyalty by the Rangers! It’s not about the money! As a Sox fan you used to it, bet rid of all you older players, next year its Papi. Remember Boggs he went into the hall with a Rays hat. Watching MLB network , all the ex players think Young is getting the shaft!

  128. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    Honestly, MY is an overall avaerage to below average player and no one can blame the Rangers for wanting to get better. However, they’ve handled this piss poorly.

    Rumor: “Rangers looking to trade YOung”
    Saying:”NO we’re not. Anyone calls and we’ll listen”.
    Rumor: “Rangers looking to sign Beltre and trade Young”
    Event: Rangers sign Beltre.
    Saying: “We’re not trying to trade you Mike”.
    Rumor: “Rangers and Rockie trying to trade Mike”.
    Saying: “The media is making stuffup. Mike will be our full-time DH”.
    Event: Rangers trade for Napoli.
    Saying: “Mike will be our part-time DH andsuper utility player”
    Rumor: “Texas still trying to trade Young”
    Event: Young gets tired ofall the lies and back talk.
    Fans: “Man, Young is a selfish, self-absorbed player”.

    Every player understands this is a business but I think most players just want ppl to be honest with them in terms of where they stand. We can trash Young all we want but he was what he was when he was offered that awful deal. I remember when it was announced and I wondered, why? Obviously, no one sat down with himand ever made it clear what his future looked like with the team and they did an evern worse job doing it quietly.

  129. Its not the media, its Jon Daniels. Daniels is the one that created this mess, first by signing Young to his present contract, then lying to Young about being traded in order to get out from under the contract that he negotiated because it is suddenly “inconvenient”. Daniels should be fired.

  130. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    hahaha

  131. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    another one bites the dust.

  132. FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

    its a classic

  133. Guest 4 years ago

    So is Puljos going to be labeled the “drama queen” in your eyes if St Louis doesn’t offer him a 10 year 300 mil dollar contract before spring training and he whines and moans.

  134. Whowonthe2009WorldSeries 4 years ago

    These two things couldn’t be any less related.

  135. Pujols doesnt whine and moan.

  136. Guest 4 years ago

    Really? They couldn’t. Puljos is setting an ultimatum with the Cards just like Young is setting an ultimatum with the Rangers. If I don’t get what I like, my relationship with my team is over. Puljos shows this as in if I don’t get my contract demands I gonna walk and I won’t accept a trade. Young is showing according to posters here by saying if my trade demands are meant I’m done with the Rangers. How are they not alike, again?

  137. Whowonthe2009WorldSeries 4 years ago

    The difference is you are talking about Albert Pujols and trying to put his skill in terms of Michael Young. People want Pujols and people DONT want Michael Young. Also Pujols has a no trade clause, it is part of his contract GIVEN TO HIM BY THE CARDS. Are we going to get mad at players for exercising things given to them by the team? Also Pujols is a free agent, so should Free Agents start taking whatever teams give them. No, they are allowed to walk that is part of the deal. They are not similar. Soon to be free agent/one of the best players in the last 25 years maybe of all time vs Overrated Michael Young who is WAY overpaid for the next 3 years on a contract that the team is regretting. How can you get mad at Pujols for walking as a free agent? That is the sport of baseball, if you don’t like it find a new sport.

  138. roberty 4 years ago

    This is a mighty big “if.” Reyes is still young but he wasn’t that great with a lot of playing time last year, I think he will get a Rafael Furcal type contract, not a Carl Crawford type contract.

  139. Guest 4 years ago

    I never compared Young and Puljos skills. You just did. I’m not mad…the OP is calling Young a princess….kinda sounds like the poster’s the one who’s bitter. Are we gonna get mad at players who are overrated (like Young and Vernon Wells) who accept the overpriced contracts that team’s give them and then, in the case of Young, request a trade on basis of being underutilized. I guess we are. Maybe you and the OP are the ones who should find new sports. Stop implying that I’m upset about Puljos taking what’s given to him (in the case of a no-trade clause). or walking away from the team as a free agent. He totally has the right to do that. What I don’t like is that Puljos forcing the Cards to give him a new contract before spring training and failing to let them negotiate with them at any other time before he becomes a free agent. Just like OP doesn’t like Young whining about trade demands instead of accepting his diminishing role. Stop overreacting and putting a spin on what I say.

  140. Guest 4 years ago

    Also, I don’t like how Puljos is shortening his demands more by the day at the latest post indicates. Yeah, he’s the best player in baseball and done a lot for the Cards and the city of St Louis. But so have the fans by supporting him and the team and coming and filling that ballpark almost every day. That’s the problem…people forget that we’re the ones paying for the tickets, the merchandise and watching the games on tv. He really should extend his negotiating window beyond the season, rather than saying to the franchise that they have to bid on his services after the season’s over. I’m sorry I find that pathetic. Especially when the Cards went and signed Holliday in an effort to show him that they wish to make their team more competitive. And I’m saying this as a Cubs fan.

  141. Whowonthe2009WorldSeries 4 years ago

    They are not similar. This comes down to Pujols is going to be a free agent. Michael Young is NOT. That is the only thing that matters, if Pujols wants to give a deadline, he has a right to do that. Michael Young is under contract for 3 more years regardless of the price, he has to take what is given to him, I don’t care if he hates it. He is being paid a lot so he needs to get over it. Albert has done nothing worth calling him a drama queen, he doesn’t want to negotiate during the season, that is his call. He is in a position to make the choice.

  142. Guest 4 years ago

    So, basically you’re saying it’s not ok for me to dislike Puljos and the stance he’s taking while you negatively criticize Young for adopting a similar stance. Puljos could keep open options to negotiate during the regular season and shortly thereafter to hammer out a deal. HE COULD extend that courtesy to the Cards. The Cards don’t owe him anything either. They don’t have to keep him. They could build with a combination of players and still be a successful franchise. Franchises are doing this without Puljos in their lineup. Sure Puljos changes the franchise. But a franchise doesn’t win necessarily by building around ONE PLAYER even if that PLAYER is the face of the franchise for many years. You fail to consider the Cards have leverage here too.

  143. Whowonthe2009WorldSeries 4 years ago

    What leverage do the Cards have? He has options. I never said they couldn’t be good without him, but the point is they want him. He can chose them or not. Michael Young is under contract so its different. What don’t you understand? He is making 16 million, I don’t care if he are unhappy, he is being a diva, his playing time/PA’s doest effect his pay check. He has no right to be upset. Pujols can walk, that is the position he is in. What could you possibly not understand?

  144. Guest 4 years ago

    Wrong on both accounts. Young has been a staple to that franchise for years. If the Rangers gave him that contract, why wouldn’t he accept it? Your quite unknowledgeable when it comes to understanding baseball loyalty. Must be a youngin’ who doesn’t remember when players played for teams under contract for one team their whole career. Young’s been loyal to the team, moving to different field positions to accommodate them. He wants playing time and what’s wrong with that. You’d rather have him quietly sit on beach and collect his millions. That’s where you’re sorely mistaken. At this point it’s not about the paycheck. He’s got more money than he needs. He got the big contract. It’s about his personal worth and Texas blunder when it comes to respect its veteran ballplayers, especially one who quietly went about his business for years and is popular with fans. Fans that don’t want to see him go. But which Texas, in their desire to get better with Beltre, made a major PR blunder. Young is Texas’ version of Derek Jeter. Letting him get to a point where he wants a trade is a disgrace. The Cards have leverage. They can and should tell Puljos we’re a mid-market team, and we can’t be financially strapped for years to come by his outrageous demands. $36 mil per year for 10 years! What the hell!! They should give him a contract that is the largest in terms of salary per year but is equivelent in length to what Holliday got. IF he doesn’t accept, they should let him go. You’re assuming they want him. What, in the same way that the Rangers wanted ARod after they signed him to the richest contract in baseball?? Where’s Arod now??? You’re foolish aren’t you to think I don’t understand what’s going on here with both players??? You also didn’t comment on the fact that Puljos could extend the Cards a courtesy by lengthening the window of negotiation. So, are you agreeing with me in saying that Puljos is behaving like a diva as well. Yep, think so.

  145. Thank you!!! @Whowon, you’re crazy. This post summarizes the whole deal. Mike didn’t put outrageous contract demands out there when he signed this deal, it was offered and he signed. Pujols is ‘demanding’/asking his home town team, the team he has spent his entire career with, to invest about 40% of their yearly payroll on him. I guess the guy isn’t interested in winning multiple championships. He is the best player in baseball, but everybody knows that. If he wants to be the highest paid player in baseball he is probably going elsewhere. His family can’t live on $25 mil a year in order for him to stay in a place that worships him and will put a statue of him up in front of their stadium someday? The whole thing is crazy to me.

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