Prince Fielder: ’11 ‘Probably’ Last Year With Brewers

It's not the first time someone has suggested the Brewers might soon be looking for a new first baseman. But it's the clearest indication yet that Prince Fielder will leave Milwaukee this offseason. The free agent-to-be himself publicly conceded that this is likely his final season with the Brewers in an interview with TBS (link at SI.com).

"I'm signed for this year, but being real about it, it is probably the last year," Fielder told TBS.

The Scott Boras client figures to be one of the most sought-after free agents of the offseason. Still just 27, Fielder began the day with a .294/.407/.543 line and 32 homers. He'll cost a top draft pick, not that that will deter serious suitors. I examined the market for Fielder and fellow free agent Albert Pujols a week ago.


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72 Comments on "Prince Fielder: ’11 ‘Probably’ Last Year With Brewers"


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start_wearing_purple
3 years 11 months ago

The hopes and dreams of Blue Jays fans every where just went up.

CAD_Monkey
3 years 11 months ago

Do they have enough money to get Fielder and Darvish?

gunsnascar
3 years 11 months ago

the cubs do

BlueCatuli
3 years 11 months ago

The cubs currently have 72.6 MM committed to the 2012 payroll with 6 players headed to arbitration. Assuming Blake Dewitt and Koyie Hill are not tendered contracts, and internal options like Steve Clavenger and Wellington Castillo or DJ Lemehieu are used instead, that puts the Cubs at about 73.4MM. Now let’s take into account that Matt Garza is in his last year of arbitration, and will probably get an extension, let’s say he gets 4 years 30MM that ups the committed payroll to about 80MM. Soto, Baker and Wells will probably take up another 6MM trough arbitration, and Samardzija has an option that appears to be 3.25MM. Let’s
just say 10MM altogether to keep it easy, and the payroll is up to 90MM. Most suggestions I’ve read have the Cubs’ payroll at between 120MM and 130MM, so we’ll say 125MM just to make it easy. That leaves 35MM to play with. Now, here’s a hypothetical 25 man roster right now assuming the Cubs carry 12 pitchers.

Dempster
Garza
Wells
Cashner
5th starter
Marmol
Marshall
Russell
Bullpen Spot
Bullpen Spot
Bullpen Spot
Bullpen Spot

Soto
Backup Catcher
Castro
Barney
Soriano
Byrd
Right Fielder
Third Baseman
First Baseman
Fourth Outfielder
Fifth Outfielder
Jeff Baker
2nd Backup Infielder

That’s potentially 11 spots the cubs have to fill with about 35MM. If the Cubs sign Ramirez to an extension for 13MM and fill 8 of the other sports with league minimum guys that’s about 17MM committed leaving the Cubs with about 18 MM to use. No way the Cubs sign both Fielder and Darvish, and odds are the don’t sign either of them.

gunsnascar
3 years 11 months ago

Starters
Garza….Dempster……Wells……ZAMBRANO…..cashner/samardzija/marshall
Bullpen
Marmol…Russell…Carpenter…Gaub…Wood…2 of 3 marshall/cashner/samardzija
Infielders
Soto…castillo………..catchers
Castro…Barney…Fielder(maybe)…Ramirez(hopefully)
backup infielders
Baker…Lamahue(sp?)
Outfielders
SORIANO……Byrd…..Lahair
Back up outfielders
Colvin…..Johnson…..(maybe)Brett Jackson if there is a injury
The only ones that I list that are not signed are Fielder (20 mil per) Ramirez(13 mil per) Wood(2 mil per if he will give the discount again) R Johnson(2 mil per roughly). I dont know about the arb raises but fielder could fit into the current payroll estimate if they dont raise it any, but I see your point darvish would represent the cubs raising payroll 15-20 mil and therefore very unlikely.

BlueCatuli
3 years 11 months ago

I don’t think you understand a few things.
1) When the owner of a team publicly says he/she doesn’t see that individual playing for their team again, it means that individual’s tenure with said team is over. Therefore, Zambrano will not be in the rotation.
2)Brett Jackson will not come up to the big league club to be a back up.

I did you a solid and assumed the cubs would fill out the roster with minimum salaried players, and I lowballed Garza. Fielder does not fit in financially, unless the Cubs get real creative via trades, he takes a pay cut or the Cubs raise payroll.

gunsnascar
3 years 11 months ago

I list Z because he is signed what they decide to do with him may be very interesting providing they can find a taker offering anything usefull in return. Im not that crazy about the team with pena at 1st base again so if they are attempting a rebuild them put Lahair at 1st and let pena walk. With pena gone and lahair at 1st base then attempt a long term contract with Garza. If the cubs could trade Z for Burnett that would be awesome send them a prospect also if they require 1. Or attempt to sign C J Wilson and the rotation is set for a few years.

3 years 11 months ago

no way but im positive the cardinals do

notsureifsrs
3 years 11 months ago

yes

Coollet
3 years 11 months ago

and a bit extra for a nice night out with Mantooth’s mom (but then we won’t call her after).

Rabbitov
3 years 11 months ago

I’m all for the Orioles nabbing him as long as we also sign 3 TOR starting pitchers and a mashing DH.  Yet, all those things will for sure happen. 

Coollet
3 years 11 months ago

you can have tallet, rauch and camp and we’ll give McCoy.

Lunchbox45
3 years 11 months ago

he meant top of the rotation, not toronto. 

Coollet
3 years 11 months ago

Oh, hey thanks man, that makes much more sense. Although, i wouldnt be surprised if they did take in all those guys, they are the Orioles. If they dont want them maybe Tony Reagins does. Tony Reagins is so much fun, i feel bad for the Angels but we suffered through JP. Also, i’m aware that we no longer have Tallet.

Rabbitov
3 years 11 months ago

The Orioles aren’t interested in players that aren’t over the hill or on the decline. Sorry bud. 

0bsessions
3 years 11 months ago

Might you have interest Jason Varitek? The supplemental pick we’d get for him is about eight times as valuable as his presence on the roster.

0bsessions
3 years 11 months ago

Admittedly, I make that mistake nearly constantly. I’ve at least gotten to the point where it only takes me a second or two to remember, but it always makes for some immediate confusion.

Christopher David
3 years 11 months ago

“Prince Fielder is too fat, even for the Oakland A’s” – Billy Beane

The guy’s weight is a factor no matter what. Yeah, he’s only 27, but in 3-5 years, when whatever team signs him would expect him to still be very productive, it’s perfectly reasonable to anticipate that a man of his carriage is likely going to have knee, back, and hip problems. Anybody who offers him more than 5 guaranteed years is nuts, but I’m sure some dumb, win-hungry losers (read, the Nationals) will be more than willing to do whatever it takes.

vtadave
3 years 11 months ago

Yeah stupid Nationals. Rich owner, elite farm system, and trying to sign great players to win games. Idiots.

MattCMoore
3 years 11 months ago

LaPorta is like 26 isnt he lol

MattCMoore
3 years 11 months ago

Why are we talking about this? I already told yall that Fielder abd Pujols will sign with the Yankees for 500million each. Done deal.., now shuttup.

johnsmith4
3 years 11 months ago

If Fielder leaves  Milwaukee….lookout for a trade between Blue Jays and Brewers….core components>>Adam Lind for an expensive Type A pitcher in last year of his contract>>KRod Greinke or Marcum

Gop5
3 years 11 months ago

In my opinion, the Nats should have re-signed Adam Dunn for the 4 years and 48 Million he got from the White Sox, traded to get B.J. Upton (who said he would like to play in Washington), and then sign Reyes this off-season. Line-up in 2012:  

1. Reyes
 2. Upton
3. Zimmerman
4. Dunn
5. Werth
6. Morse
7. Espinoza
 8. Ramos  
9. pitcher’s spot 

Not sure why they let Dunn go just to go sign LaRoche instead. Think about it, Werth did well in Philly when he had Howard batting around him. The Nats need to do the same by getting a power bat again. Also, Dunn played like crap in the AL…they could bring him back rather cheap if the Sox want to get rid of his contract. Why not bring him back, take on all of his salary, and have him for three years rather than spending 150-200 Million on Fielder or Pujols while worrying about their declines in 5 years and where to put them with no DH. And is Harper such a bad catcher that they drafted him as a RF? Otherwise, let him catch, then you have his bat in place of Ramos late in 2012 and on into the future. All of the sudden the lineup could be 1. Reyes (SS), 2. Upton (CF), 3. Zimmerman (3B), 4. Dunn (1B), 5. Werth (RF), 6. Harper (C), 7. Morse (LF), 8. Espinoza (2B). They’d win a few ballgames with that and their young pitching. 

Then, the Mariners sign Fielder to DH (Jack Z was the one that scouted him while in Milwaukee), since they haven’t had a power hitter in forever. Mariner fans have missed seeing homeruns by the home team. Pitching wins championships, but those pitchers can’t worry about giving up 2 runs and losing every time out. They need an RBI and HR threat. Fielder would be that.

chico65
3 years 11 months ago

More drivel from the GOP huh?  What a surprise.

chico65
3 years 11 months ago

Well, at least your edits have made it look better.  But thinking that all Werth needs is another big bat in the lineup near him?  No understanding that Harper as a C adds years to his development time?  Pining for a .162/.292/.285 hitter with 160 strikeouts in under 400 official atbats?

Next you’re going to tell me that the Earth is only 10,000 years old, and that Carl Everett walked with dinosaurs.

Gop5
3 years 11 months ago

Dunn has had 38 or more HRs since 2004, and then the year he switched to the AL, he dropped to 11. I’d be willing to bet that if he returned to the Nationals and the NL, he could continue with those numbers since that’s where’s he been his entire career. The reason for his decline this year clearly has to be his switch to the AL. So yes, I’ll take my chances on Dunn back in the NL despite that .162 line. This year was a fluke. And yeah, he strikes out, who cares. He always has. I think I could deal with that if he hits near 40 bombs and keeps having 100 RBI. 

As for Harper, put him in center field. Just saying, he’s still incredibly young and talented, so I bet he could do it. Still have Norris coming up to catch too.  

Earth…10,000 years old. Now you’re just being silly. And I don’t care about politics, so don’t go comparing me to the GOP. Not at all what my name refers to.

chico65
3 years 11 months ago

I suppose I was feeling a bit cantankerous yesterday, just wanted to needle on the gop thing.  What’s it refer to?

Gop5
3 years 11 months ago

It actually just refers to my last name lol. No special meaning or anything. I did notice that you really didn’t have anything nice to say to anyone…though for good reason. This thread went downhill.

3 years 11 months ago

like dunn is doing SOOOO well in chicago

$5474103
3 years 11 months ago

I could see the phillies getting fielder…and if that happens I’ll barf up a lung

chico65
3 years 11 months ago

Dude, it’ll be okay…just put the bong down and slowly back away…

3 years 11 months ago

i was gonna say crack pipe but oh well

3 years 11 months ago

uhhh..no on the nats!!! where are you getting all this crap? you must be listening to ken rosenthal….we got marrero morse laroche etc….it dont fit plus they are going to need money to re up zimmerman…..plus they already made the werth mistake….aint happining again….

3 years 11 months ago

thanks for pointing out the obvious

3 years 11 months ago

uh,no on the nationals!! listen carefully as this may be hard to comprehend: the nationals do not need him!!! marrero, morse…they need the money to re up zimmerman,along with the fact they got screwed on werth…..they regret that one and they ain’t doing it again

Rangersfan32
3 years 11 months ago

Rangers? Yeah, definitely not happening unless Nolan wants to kiss a number of Wilson (especially since there’s no way Texas could sign Fielder and Wilson in the same offseason to 8 or 9 figure salaries), Hamilton, Cruz, Kinsler, Napoli, and Elvis goodbye in the next few years.

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
3 years 11 months ago

I laughed and I don’t even know why.

bigpat
3 years 11 months ago

Haha. I still think there’s a decent chance he stays in Milwaukee. They need him to keep this run going and they may have the money soon. You can double the salary he’s making now and maybe if you get rid of K-Rod and Suppan’s salaries, they may be able to keep him??

CAD_Monkey
3 years 11 months ago

What about Morales?  Isn’t he coming back next year?

vtadave
3 years 11 months ago

Arte is too cheap to pay market rate for Fielder. Plus, he wouldn’t have to give up a solid player like Mike Napoli in the deal, so no dice.

Rangersfan32
3 years 11 months ago

Yeah, since they couldn’t pay enough for Crawford or Beltre AND they added Wells’ terrible contract… Obviously they’ll be the ones to sign Pujols or Fielder.

notsureifsrs
3 years 11 months ago

why in the world is erick aybar leading off

the angels have a lot of money coming off the books after 2012. if they can deal with a record-high payroll for just one year, they should fully commit to turning that lineup around and not only get fielder but aramis ramirez as well

bourjos
kendrick
ramirez
fielder
hunter
morales
wells
conger
aybar

with that rotiation? 1st place imo

notsureifsrs
3 years 11 months ago

the problem is that their run depends on having greinke and marcum, both of whom are gone after next year. is it worth it to commit a large fraction of the payroll to 1B for years to come just to get a better shot in 2012? maybe, but it could really jeopardize their long-term outlook

if i’m milwaukee, i’m focused on a carlos pena type, short-term solution with upside to replace prince next year. give yourself a good shot in 2012 without hamstringing the payroll for the next decade

spokaneman
3 years 11 months ago

Why shouldn’t he be?  Unless they’re going to non-tender him, he’s going to be on the payroll next season.  Angels are already over 100m for next season, I don’t see them jumping in at a position they don’t imminently need to upgrade.

As for Texas, they have CJ Wilson hitting free agency and Hamilton, Cruz and Kinsler in need of new deals/big raises.  I don’t see one of the top 3 offenses going for Fielder, their #1 priority will be CJ and possibly a pass at CC if/when he opts out.

notsureifsrs
3 years 11 months ago

morales is a better option than trumbo. how do you see abreu being bought out? his option is already guaranteed

i’d give trout more time in the minors and let him force his way onto the team. the angels have at least got to snag ramirez for third base and find some extra offense at 1B/DH. fielder could have a huge impact on that lineup if the angels can stomach the cost

reason 345432-F the wells trade was obscenely dumb. vernon wells — who isn’t even needed in LF — gets $20M next year that could be paid to prince fielder

notsureifsrs
3 years 11 months ago

trumbo should be traded to a dumb GM who cares about HRs and not OBP. he isn’t a valuable first baseman

morales has tons of potential, but hasn’t played since Y2K. you’re probably right that they’ll be conservative and go with him at 1st and abreu at DH. but with $35M coming off the books after next year in hunter and abreu and a couple others, if i’m an angels fan i’m wanting them to be aggressive. that money needs to stay in payroll, not in pockets

bigpat
3 years 11 months ago

Yeah, they can’t seem to grow a pitching prospect to save their lives, other than Gallardo, so Marcum and Greinke should be higher priorities. If they were to somehow get Berkman as a free agent, he would also be a great replacement. I can’t see him getting much more than 12M a year or so.

Ta-Kuan Fuan
3 years 11 months ago

Fielder still makes sense for the Angels long-term, making him the face of the franchise for the next 6-8yrs. Both Abreu and Hunter will be gone after next season. Morales is a question mark, you just don’t know how he’ll produce going forward. Assuming the best and he does come back healthy next year, you could sell high on him and use him as trade bait for a much needed 3B and/or bullpen help. Then you still have Trumbo as a 1B/DH/OF.

2013:
1B – FielderDH – Trumbo
LF – Wells
CF – Bourjos
RF – Trout

notsureifsrs
3 years 11 months ago

jungmann was a great pick; he he should be tough to ruin. good call on berkman

notsureifsrs
3 years 11 months ago

rendon was passed on because of concerns about his health, not his talent. if he stays healthy, he’s a stud

the werth signing was six shades of stupid, but washington is loaded with young talent

3 years 11 months ago

dude i live here….ive been saying that all friggin year!!

Coollet
3 years 11 months ago

A lot teams? Yes. But the Rays, BoSox and Yanks? Maybe, either way, it’ll be fun to watch! Can’t wait for winter, hockey and baseball off-season dealing!

0bsessions
3 years 11 months ago

I’m pulling for Seattle. For one, that team needs a solid left handed power bat. More importantly, though, I would prefer he be kept far, far away from the AL East.

Coollet
3 years 11 months ago

The reason they wont get Fielder is because of Tony Reagins, he couldnt GM his way out of a paper bag.

Lunchbox45
3 years 11 months ago

trumbo should be traded to a dumb GM who cares about HRs and not OBP. he isn’t a valuable first baseman

The problem is, he’s already on the angels..

3 years 11 months ago

Neither could I, I don’t think. Sounds tricky.

John DiRienzo
3 years 11 months ago

i facepalm everytime someone thinks the owner’s wealth has anything to do with the finances of a separate business entity. i’ll pretend you didn’t say that.

for what it’s worth, isn’t the marlins’ owner one of the richest in all of baseball?

BlueCatuli
3 years 11 months ago

You make a valid point. FanGraphs has his value at 20MM for 2011. I definitely undervalued him. They Cubs could still just offer him the 7.5 and then work an extension mid season. I’d really like to see him locked up though. 4 years/ 68MM with two option years? Either way, the Cubs don’t have all the cash to spend that some fans think they do.

NYPOTENCE
3 years 11 months ago

Yeah, Garza could probably get 12-17 million in the open market. Who knows maybe he doesn’t even want to remain with a that doesn’t accept the fact that they should be in full rebuild mode.

3 years 11 months ago

Nah.  Rogers is.  They even got paper to start their own bank.

chico65
3 years 11 months ago

The key is a sharp development program. 

chico65
3 years 11 months ago

And Hendry is gone as well

notsureifsrs
3 years 11 months ago

ned colletti needs a 1B!

notsureifsrs
3 years 11 months ago

even anthopolous couldn’t get a decent haul for lind right now

notsureifsrs
3 years 11 months ago

maybe he has a genie

bobskube
3 years 11 months ago

I think 4/$60M may get it done.  He’s a really valuable pitcher given his success as well as his durability.

Your overriding point is correct though, IMO……….the Cubs really don’t have much money to spend.  I laughed and laughed when they signed Soriano, and, despite two division titles, it is one of the worst contracts ever in any sport, and now they have to wait it out.

0bsessions
3 years 11 months ago

It seems like a very realistic possibility to me. He would fit nicely as a lefty with high OBP skills, two things that Safeco won’t hinder as badly as others.

Coollet
3 years 11 months ago

You just know somewhere AA heard that comment only to respond with “Challenge accepted!”

*edit: could also say that about Well’s contract, frank is turning it around.

0bsessions
3 years 11 months ago

This marks the first and only time I will ever applaud a pun on here.

*Applause*

chico65
3 years 11 months ago

I knew I’d wear you down eventually 😉

BlueCatuli
3 years 11 months ago

I’d like to hear HOW they could even put themselves in rebuild mode with the large contracts and large payroll that will stay that way.

3 years 11 months ago

ok….here is the question….do they need him? think carefully before you answer…who won the series last year? frisco….what did they have? pitching….who did they NOT have? prince fielder or king albert…the nationals actually need reyes more than fielder and if you disagree with me on that start looking at stats…what has been the nats big problem this year??? getting someone to play leadoff and get on base…tfor all intents and purposes fielder can hit homers but i think the nats are ok there…they actually need reyes…i think you got a man crush on fielder so why dont you take your head and rest it on one of his boobs and call him mommy