Prince Fielder: ’11 ‘Probably’ Last Year With Brewers

It's not the first time someone has suggested the Brewers might soon be looking for a new first baseman. But it's the clearest indication yet that Prince Fielder will leave Milwaukee this offseason. The free agent-to-be himself publicly conceded that this is likely his final season with the Brewers in an interview with TBS (link at SI.com).

"I'm signed for this year, but being real about it, it is probably the last year," Fielder told TBS.

The Scott Boras client figures to be one of the most sought-after free agents of the offseason. Still just 27, Fielder began the day with a .294/.407/.543 line and 32 homers. He'll cost a top draft pick, not that that will deter serious suitors. I examined the market for Fielder and fellow free agent Albert Pujols a week ago.


72 Responses to Prince Fielder: ’11 ‘Probably’ Last Year With Brewers Leave a Reply

  1. start_wearing_purple 4 years ago

    The hopes and dreams of Blue Jays fans every where just went up.

    • CAD_Monkey 4 years ago

      Do they have enough money to get Fielder and Darvish?

      • gunsnascar 4 years ago

        the cubs do

        • BlueCatuli 4 years ago

          The cubs currently have 72.6 MM committed to the 2012 payroll with 6 players headed to arbitration. Assuming Blake Dewitt and Koyie Hill are not tendered contracts, and internal options like Steve Clavenger and Wellington Castillo or DJ Lemehieu are used instead, that puts the Cubs at about 73.4MM. Now let’s take into account that Matt Garza is in his last year of arbitration, and will probably get an extension, let’s say he gets 4 years 30MM that ups the committed payroll to about 80MM. Soto, Baker and Wells will probably take up another 6MM trough arbitration, and Samardzija has an option that appears to be 3.25MM. Let’s
          just say 10MM altogether to keep it easy, and the payroll is up to 90MM. Most suggestions I’ve read have the Cubs’ payroll at between 120MM and 130MM, so we’ll say 125MM just to make it easy. That leaves 35MM to play with. Now, here’s a hypothetical 25 man roster right now assuming the Cubs carry 12 pitchers.

          Dempster
          Garza
          Wells
          Cashner
          5th starter
          Marmol
          Marshall
          Russell
          Bullpen Spot
          Bullpen Spot
          Bullpen Spot
          Bullpen Spot

          Soto
          Backup Catcher
          Castro
          Barney
          Soriano
          Byrd
          Right Fielder
          Third Baseman
          First Baseman
          Fourth Outfielder
          Fifth Outfielder
          Jeff Baker
          2nd Backup Infielder

          That’s potentially 11 spots the cubs have to fill with about 35MM. If the Cubs sign Ramirez to an extension for 13MM and fill 8 of the other sports with league minimum guys that’s about 17MM committed leaving the Cubs with about 18 MM to use. No way the Cubs sign both Fielder and Darvish, and odds are the don’t sign either of them.

          • gunsnascar 4 years ago

            Starters
            Garza….Dempster……Wells……ZAMBRANO…..cashner/samardzija/marshall
            Bullpen
            Marmol…Russell…Carpenter…Gaub…Wood…2 of 3 marshall/cashner/samardzija
            Infielders
            Soto…castillo………..catchers
            Castro…Barney…Fielder(maybe)…Ramirez(hopefully)
            backup infielders
            Baker…Lamahue(sp?)
            Outfielders
            SORIANO……Byrd…..Lahair
            Back up outfielders
            Colvin…..Johnson…..(maybe)Brett Jackson if there is a injury
            The only ones that I list that are not signed are Fielder (20 mil per) Ramirez(13 mil per) Wood(2 mil per if he will give the discount again) R Johnson(2 mil per roughly). I dont know about the arb raises but fielder could fit into the current payroll estimate if they dont raise it any, but I see your point darvish would represent the cubs raising payroll 15-20 mil and therefore very unlikely.

          • BlueCatuli 4 years ago

            I don’t think you understand a few things.
            1) When the owner of a team publicly says he/she doesn’t see that individual playing for their team again, it means that individual’s tenure with said team is over. Therefore, Zambrano will not be in the rotation.
            2)Brett Jackson will not come up to the big league club to be a back up.

            I did you a solid and assumed the cubs would fill out the roster with minimum salaried players, and I lowballed Garza. Fielder does not fit in financially, unless the Cubs get real creative via trades, he takes a pay cut or the Cubs raise payroll.

          • gunsnascar 4 years ago

            I list Z because he is signed what they decide to do with him may be very interesting providing they can find a taker offering anything usefull in return. Im not that crazy about the team with pena at 1st base again so if they are attempting a rebuild them put Lahair at 1st and let pena walk. With pena gone and lahair at 1st base then attempt a long term contract with Garza. If the cubs could trade Z for Burnett that would be awesome send them a prospect also if they require 1. Or attempt to sign C J Wilson and the rotation is set for a few years.

        • no way but im positive the cardinals do

      • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

        yes

      • Coollet 4 years ago

        and a bit extra for a nice night out with Mantooth’s mom (but then we won’t call her after).

  2. Rabbitov 4 years ago

    I’m all for the Orioles nabbing him as long as we also sign 3 TOR starting pitchers and a mashing DH.  Yet, all those things will for sure happen. 

    • Coollet 4 years ago

      you can have tallet, rauch and camp and we’ll give McCoy.

      • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

        he meant top of the rotation, not toronto. 

        • Coollet 4 years ago

          Oh, hey thanks man, that makes much more sense. Although, i wouldnt be surprised if they did take in all those guys, they are the Orioles. If they dont want them maybe Tony Reagins does. Tony Reagins is so much fun, i feel bad for the Angels but we suffered through JP. Also, i’m aware that we no longer have Tallet.

          • Rabbitov 4 years ago

            The Orioles aren’t interested in players that aren’t over the hill or on the decline. Sorry bud. 

          • 0bsessions 4 years ago

            Might you have interest Jason Varitek? The supplemental pick we’d get for him is about eight times as valuable as his presence on the roster.

        • 0bsessions 4 years ago

          Admittedly, I make that mistake nearly constantly. I’ve at least gotten to the point where it only takes me a second or two to remember, but it always makes for some immediate confusion.

  3. Christopher David 4 years ago

    “Prince Fielder is too fat, even for the Oakland A’s” – Billy Beane

    The guy’s weight is a factor no matter what. Yeah, he’s only 27, but in 3-5 years, when whatever team signs him would expect him to still be very productive, it’s perfectly reasonable to anticipate that a man of his carriage is likely going to have knee, back, and hip problems. Anybody who offers him more than 5 guaranteed years is nuts, but I’m sure some dumb, win-hungry losers (read, the Nationals) will be more than willing to do whatever it takes.

    • vtadave 4 years ago

      Yeah stupid Nationals. Rich owner, elite farm system, and trying to sign great players to win games. Idiots.

  4. Matt Moore 4 years ago

    LaPorta is like 26 isnt he lol

  5. Matt Moore 4 years ago

    Why are we talking about this? I already told yall that Fielder abd Pujols will sign with the Yankees for 500million each. Done deal.., now shuttup.

  6. johnsmith4 4 years ago

    If Fielder leaves  Milwaukee….lookout for a trade between Blue Jays and Brewers….core components>>Adam Lind for an expensive Type A pitcher in last year of his contract>>KRod Greinke or Marcum

  7. Gop5 4 years ago

    In my opinion, the Nats should have re-signed Adam Dunn for the 4 years and 48 Million he got from the White Sox, traded to get B.J. Upton (who said he would like to play in Washington), and then sign Reyes this off-season. Line-up in 2012:  

    1. Reyes
     2. Upton
    3. Zimmerman
    4. Dunn
    5. Werth
    6. Morse
    7. Espinoza
     8. Ramos  
    9. pitcher’s spot 

    Not sure why they let Dunn go just to go sign LaRoche instead. Think about it, Werth did well in Philly when he had Howard batting around him. The Nats need to do the same by getting a power bat again. Also, Dunn played like crap in the AL…they could bring him back rather cheap if the Sox want to get rid of his contract. Why not bring him back, take on all of his salary, and have him for three years rather than spending 150-200 Million on Fielder or Pujols while worrying about their declines in 5 years and where to put them with no DH. And is Harper such a bad catcher that they drafted him as a RF? Otherwise, let him catch, then you have his bat in place of Ramos late in 2012 and on into the future. All of the sudden the lineup could be 1. Reyes (SS), 2. Upton (CF), 3. Zimmerman (3B), 4. Dunn (1B), 5. Werth (RF), 6. Harper (C), 7. Morse (LF), 8. Espinoza (2B). They’d win a few ballgames with that and their young pitching. 

    Then, the Mariners sign Fielder to DH (Jack Z was the one that scouted him while in Milwaukee), since they haven’t had a power hitter in forever. Mariner fans have missed seeing homeruns by the home team. Pitching wins championships, but those pitchers can’t worry about giving up 2 runs and losing every time out. They need an RBI and HR threat. Fielder would be that.

    • chico65 4 years ago

      More drivel from the GOP huh?  What a surprise.

    • chico65 4 years ago

      Well, at least your edits have made it look better.  But thinking that all Werth needs is another big bat in the lineup near him?  No understanding that Harper as a C adds years to his development time?  Pining for a .162/.292/.285 hitter with 160 strikeouts in under 400 official atbats?

      Next you’re going to tell me that the Earth is only 10,000 years old, and that Carl Everett walked with dinosaurs.

      • Gop5 4 years ago

        Dunn has had 38 or more HRs since 2004, and then the year he switched to the AL, he dropped to 11. I’d be willing to bet that if he returned to the Nationals and the NL, he could continue with those numbers since that’s where’s he been his entire career. The reason for his decline this year clearly has to be his switch to the AL. So yes, I’ll take my chances on Dunn back in the NL despite that .162 line. This year was a fluke. And yeah, he strikes out, who cares. He always has. I think I could deal with that if he hits near 40 bombs and keeps having 100 RBI. 

        As for Harper, put him in center field. Just saying, he’s still incredibly young and talented, so I bet he could do it. Still have Norris coming up to catch too.  

        Earth…10,000 years old. Now you’re just being silly. And I don’t care about politics, so don’t go comparing me to the GOP. Not at all what my name refers to.

        • chico65 4 years ago

          I suppose I was feeling a bit cantankerous yesterday, just wanted to needle on the gop thing.  What’s it refer to?

          • Gop5 4 years ago

            It actually just refers to my last name lol. No special meaning or anything. I did notice that you really didn’t have anything nice to say to anyone…though for good reason. This thread went downhill.

    • like dunn is doing SOOOO well in chicago

  8. $5474103 4 years ago

    I could see the phillies getting fielder…and if that happens I’ll barf up a lung

  9. uhhh..no on the nats!!! where are you getting all this crap? you must be listening to ken rosenthal….we got marrero morse laroche etc….it dont fit plus they are going to need money to re up zimmerman…..plus they already made the werth mistake….aint happining again….

  10. thanks for pointing out the obvious

  11. uh,no on the nationals!! listen carefully as this may be hard to comprehend: the nationals do not need him!!! marrero, morse…they need the money to re up zimmerman,along with the fact they got screwed on werth…..they regret that one and they ain’t doing it again

  12. RonWashingtonISinsane 4 years ago

    Rangers? Yeah, definitely not happening unless Nolan wants to kiss a number of Wilson (especially since there’s no way Texas could sign Fielder and Wilson in the same offseason to 8 or 9 figure salaries), Hamilton, Cruz, Kinsler, Napoli, and Elvis goodbye in the next few years.

  13. FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

    I laughed and I don’t even know why.

  14. bigpat 4 years ago

    Haha. I still think there’s a decent chance he stays in Milwaukee. They need him to keep this run going and they may have the money soon. You can double the salary he’s making now and maybe if you get rid of K-Rod and Suppan’s salaries, they may be able to keep him??

  15. CAD_Monkey 4 years ago

    What about Morales?  Isn’t he coming back next year?

  16. vtadave 4 years ago

    Arte is too cheap to pay market rate for Fielder. Plus, he wouldn’t have to give up a solid player like Mike Napoli in the deal, so no dice.

  17. RonWashingtonISinsane 4 years ago

    Yeah, since they couldn’t pay enough for Crawford or Beltre AND they added Wells’ terrible contract… Obviously they’ll be the ones to sign Pujols or Fielder.

  18. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    why in the world is erick aybar leading off

    the angels have a lot of money coming off the books after 2012. if they can deal with a record-high payroll for just one year, they should fully commit to turning that lineup around and not only get fielder but aramis ramirez as well

    bourjos
    kendrick
    ramirez
    fielder
    hunter
    morales
    wells
    conger
    aybar

    with that rotiation? 1st place imo

  19. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    the problem is that their run depends on having greinke and marcum, both of whom are gone after next year. is it worth it to commit a large fraction of the payroll to 1B for years to come just to get a better shot in 2012? maybe, but it could really jeopardize their long-term outlook

    if i’m milwaukee, i’m focused on a carlos pena type, short-term solution with upside to replace prince next year. give yourself a good shot in 2012 without hamstringing the payroll for the next decade

  20. spokaneman 4 years ago

    Why shouldn’t he be?  Unless they’re going to non-tender him, he’s going to be on the payroll next season.  Angels are already over 100m for next season, I don’t see them jumping in at a position they don’t imminently need to upgrade.

    As for Texas, they have CJ Wilson hitting free agency and Hamilton, Cruz and Kinsler in need of new deals/big raises.  I don’t see one of the top 3 offenses going for Fielder, their #1 priority will be CJ and possibly a pass at CC if/when he opts out.

  21. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    morales is a better option than trumbo. how do you see abreu being bought out? his option is already guaranteed

    i’d give trout more time in the minors and let him force his way onto the team. the angels have at least got to snag ramirez for third base and find some extra offense at 1B/DH. fielder could have a huge impact on that lineup if the angels can stomach the cost

    reason 345432-F the wells trade was obscenely dumb. vernon wells — who isn’t even needed in LF — gets $20M next year that could be paid to prince fielder

  22. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    trumbo should be traded to a dumb GM who cares about HRs and not OBP. he isn’t a valuable first baseman

    morales has tons of potential, but hasn’t played since Y2K. you’re probably right that they’ll be conservative and go with him at 1st and abreu at DH. but with $35M coming off the books after next year in hunter and abreu and a couple others, if i’m an angels fan i’m wanting them to be aggressive. that money needs to stay in payroll, not in pockets

  23. bigpat 4 years ago

    Yeah, they can’t seem to grow a pitching prospect to save their lives, other than Gallardo, so Marcum and Greinke should be higher priorities. If they were to somehow get Berkman as a free agent, he would also be a great replacement. I can’t see him getting much more than 12M a year or so.

  24. Ta-Kuan Fuan 4 years ago

    Fielder still makes sense for the Angels long-term, making him the face of the franchise for the next 6-8yrs. Both Abreu and Hunter will be gone after next season. Morales is a question mark, you just don’t know how he’ll produce going forward. Assuming the best and he does come back healthy next year, you could sell high on him and use him as trade bait for a much needed 3B and/or bullpen help. Then you still have Trumbo as a 1B/DH/OF.

    2013:
    1B – FielderDH – Trumbo
    LF – Wells
    CF – Bourjos
    RF – Trout

  25. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    jungmann was a great pick; he he should be tough to ruin. good call on berkman

  26. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    rendon was passed on because of concerns about his health, not his talent. if he stays healthy, he’s a stud

    the werth signing was six shades of stupid, but washington is loaded with young talent

  27. dude i live here….ive been saying that all friggin year!!

  28. Coollet 4 years ago

    A lot teams? Yes. But the Rays, BoSox and Yanks? Maybe, either way, it’ll be fun to watch! Can’t wait for winter, hockey and baseball off-season dealing!

  29. 0bsessions 4 years ago

    I’m pulling for Seattle. For one, that team needs a solid left handed power bat. More importantly, though, I would prefer he be kept far, far away from the AL East.

  30. Coollet 4 years ago

    The reason they wont get Fielder is because of Tony Reagins, he couldnt GM his way out of a paper bag.

  31. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    trumbo should be traded to a dumb GM who cares about HRs and not OBP. he isn’t a valuable first baseman

    The problem is, he’s already on the angels..

  32. Neither could I, I don’t think. Sounds tricky.

  33. John DiRienzo 4 years ago

    i facepalm everytime someone thinks the owner’s wealth has anything to do with the finances of a separate business entity. i’ll pretend you didn’t say that.

    for what it’s worth, isn’t the marlins’ owner one of the richest in all of baseball?

  34. BlueCatuli 4 years ago

    You make a valid point. FanGraphs has his value at 20MM for 2011. I definitely undervalued him. They Cubs could still just offer him the 7.5 and then work an extension mid season. I’d really like to see him locked up though. 4 years/ 68MM with two option years? Either way, the Cubs don’t have all the cash to spend that some fans think they do.

  35. NYPOTENCE 4 years ago

    Yeah, Garza could probably get 12-17 million in the open market. Who knows maybe he doesn’t even want to remain with a that doesn’t accept the fact that they should be in full rebuild mode.

  36. Nah.  Rogers is.  They even got paper to start their own bank.

  37. chico65 4 years ago

    The key is a sharp development program. 

  38. chico65 4 years ago

    And Hendry is gone as well

  39. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    ned colletti needs a 1B!

  40. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    even anthopolous couldn’t get a decent haul for lind right now

  41. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    maybe he has a genie

  42. bobskube 4 years ago

    I think 4/$60M may get it done.  He’s a really valuable pitcher given his success as well as his durability.

    Your overriding point is correct though, IMO……….the Cubs really don’t have much money to spend.  I laughed and laughed when they signed Soriano, and, despite two division titles, it is one of the worst contracts ever in any sport, and now they have to wait it out.

  43. 0bsessions 4 years ago

    It seems like a very realistic possibility to me. He would fit nicely as a lefty with high OBP skills, two things that Safeco won’t hinder as badly as others.

  44. Coollet 4 years ago

    You just know somewhere AA heard that comment only to respond with “Challenge accepted!”

    *edit: could also say that about Well’s contract, frank is turning it around.

  45. 0bsessions 4 years ago

    This marks the first and only time I will ever applaud a pun on here.

    *Applause*

  46. chico65 4 years ago

    I knew I’d wear you down eventually 😉

  47. BlueCatuli 4 years ago

    I’d like to hear HOW they could even put themselves in rebuild mode with the large contracts and large payroll that will stay that way.

  48. ok….here is the question….do they need him? think carefully before you answer…who won the series last year? frisco….what did they have? pitching….who did they NOT have? prince fielder or king albert…the nationals actually need reyes more than fielder and if you disagree with me on that start looking at stats…what has been the nats big problem this year??? getting someone to play leadoff and get on base…tfor all intents and purposes fielder can hit homers but i think the nats are ok there…they actually need reyes…i think you got a man crush on fielder so why dont you take your head and rest it on one of his boobs and call him mommy

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