Braves Open To Trading Jurrjens, Prado

The Braves have told some teams they would be willing to move Jair Jurrjens and Martin Prado in a trade, a Major League source tells MLB.com's Mark Bowman.  Atlanta is known to be looking for a power-hitting outfielder and possibly a new shortstop, so either could be acquired in a Jurrjens/Prado trade, or at the very least the Braves could pick up some salary relief — both Jurrjens and Prado are arbitration-eligible for the second time this winter.

The Braves and Royals have already discussed a Jurrjens trade, and the Braves have an interest in minor league outfielders Lorenzo Cain and Wil Myers, amongst several other prospects in K.C.'s deep farm system.  The Royals are known to be targeting veteran starting pitching on the trade market this winter so the two sides would seem like a fit as trading partners.  As Bowman notes, Cain could be seen by the Braves as a future center field option if Michael Bourn isn't signed to an extension.

Jurrjens was an All-Star in 2011, though the right-hander struggled badly (a 5.88 ERA) in the second half of the season and spent time on the DL with a knee injury.  While Jurrjens' health is a question mark, Myers also took a minor step back (a .745 OPS in Double-A) in 2011 after being ranked as the 10th-best prospect in the sport in Baseball America's preseason rankings.  Myers is still just 20, however, and was converted to the outfield this year after spending his first two pro seasons as a catcher.

After an impressive 2010 season that saw him finish ninth in NL MVP voting, Prado took a step back in 2011, hitting .260/.302/.385 as Atlanta's everyday left fielder.  Prado's ability to play left, third, first and second base would make him an intriguing trade possibility for a number of teams, especially since he could be available at a somewhat buy-low price.


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310 Comments on "Braves Open To Trading Jurrjens, Prado"


Triple Hawpes Brewed
3 years 9 months ago

In return: Alex Gordon

MattCMoore
3 years 9 months ago

Hahaha!!!

Christian camlin
3 years 9 months ago

you must be high we aren’t trading Alex Gordon . Oh and we want no part of Martin Prado . Where would he play in KC pinch runner ?

Triple Hawpes Brewed
3 years 9 months ago

[duplicate post]

BraveCrowe
3 years 9 months ago

I would Love to get Alex Gordon, but that will not happen, I feel that we as Braves fans are over valuing JJ to a certain extent.

3 years 9 months ago

Seth Smith, anyone?

Brandon Miller
3 years 9 months ago

I sort of feel like you guys are undervaluing him.

philliesfan136
3 years 9 months ago

Very interesting. The possible Jurrjens trade could be another trade that helps both sides. I wish the Phillies could get Prado, but there’s no way that could happen.

3 years 9 months ago

your right. there is no way the phillies will get Prado or Jurrjens.  Your team is getting old and our team is young so you have much to worry about between the braves and nationals. hope howard will be ok next season

3 years 9 months ago

Braves also open to not making the playoffs again

bringbackandruw
3 years 9 months ago

Ok? Explain?

Triple Hawpes Brewed
3 years 9 months ago

THIS is the top rated comment of the thread? Wow…just wow.

3 years 9 months ago

i say keeping both is a must…do not trade both…if push comes to shove..trade one not both…both pieces are very valuable to the braves in their own right..

3 years 9 months ago

too expensive

Patrick Tuck
3 years 9 months ago

Trading Prado would be stupid. He got hurt and got in a slump because if it. Trade Jurrjens and someone else or some prospects for a big outfield bat.

3 years 9 months ago

i agree

andrew hamer
3 years 9 months ago

this trade is gonna happen…. i dont like it because i would much rather have hanson

3 years 9 months ago

So braves wanna trade 2 people who are coming off disappointing seasons…..selling low eh?

RiverKKiller999
3 years 9 months ago

Regardless of Jurrjens injury that left him with 153 innings pitched, he did put up a 2.96 ERA in this past season, so I don’t know how you make mark that as a “disappointing season”.

They should have traded him at the deadline when he had an ERA under 2, I believe it was. His value as sky high at the time until he regressed like most people thought he would.

They would be selling low on Prado, though. I’m not sure if I would want him gone. A lot of people in the Braves line up had an off year, if you wanna call it that. I’d be willing to give him another chance as a starting OF if I was the Braves. They’d definitely be selling low on him.

Derek Sandblom
3 years 9 months ago

lowrie for jurrjens? would that even be considered?

Triple Hawpes Brewed
3 years 9 months ago

 No way

Mike Agogliati
3 years 9 months ago

Throw in Iglesias

3 years 9 months ago

He hits like a throw-in. 

Lunchbox45
3 years 9 months ago

winner!

RiverKKiller999
3 years 9 months ago

Damn, I thought you said Lawrie, as in Brett Lawrie. *sad face*

StanleyHudson
3 years 9 months ago

More realistic: Reddick and Lowrie or Kalish and Lowrie for Jurrjens.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 9 months ago

So two guys who can’t secure major league jobs at two positions their own team needs to fill and you expect a young mid rotation starter? Great.

StanleyHudson
3 years 9 months ago

How do the Sox need Lowrie? All the infield spots are taken. Lowrie becomes expendable with Aviles being on the team. Reddick and Kalish couldn’t “secure major league jobs” in the past because their were no openings available or they weren’t ready to play in the MLB. Both are solid prospects and both have since proved they are ready to make it in the majors. Also, if you trade one of Kalish/Reddick, you have the other to play RF, if Cherington doesn’t sign/trade for an right fielder.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 9 months ago

The Red Sox want/need a SS. I guarantee you that if the Sox felt he was capable of being a everyday SS then he would be there in 2012 instead of Scutaro. My point is, the Braves would want more than Lowrie and Reddick.

notsureifsrs
3 years 9 months ago

huh? the red sox have 2 shortstops other than lowrie. don’t know what you’re on about there

moreover, lowrie did take the job away from scutaro last year. scutaro only got it back when lowrie got injured. scutaro will start with the job because he hit like pujols in september, but it’s lowrie’s injury history that limits his value, not his talent

Christian camlin
3 years 9 months ago

Red sox have 3 capable shortstops . If I were them I would try Mike Aviles. He would post pinball numbers in fenway. Making the other 2 look like little girls .

notsureifsrs
3 years 9 months ago

1) that’s not what jurrjens is
2) reddick secured the starting job most of the year
3) lowrie…ok yea lowrie doesn’t have much going for him anymore

YanksFanSince78
3 years 9 months ago

Jurrjens isn’t a mid-rotation caliber starter? Really? 

Are you suggesting that Lowrie and Reddick are enough to get Jurrjens? 

notsureifsrs
3 years 9 months ago

did you stop reading at #1? =P

no, i don’t think those two get jurrjens. but that’s mostly because of all the better offers that would be made; it’s not that far from equal value. i don’t buy 5.3 K/9 flyball boy as a #3 or better in the AL East. don’t let the ERA fool you

Yankees420
3 years 9 months ago

Is a 36 FB% high?  What’s league average?

notsureifsrs
3 years 9 months ago

43ish was the league average GB% this year iirc, so i suppose ‘flyball pitcher’ isn’t an appropriate label. but his batted ball profiles aren’t pretty. his gb/fb ratio was in the bottom third of qualified starters in 2011

Yankees420
3 years 9 months ago

Gotcha, plus if you look at his FB% by year you see that his 2008 26.5% seems like an outlier that brings his career average down a bit.  Either way I wouldn’t want him on the Yankees, maybe the Red Sox though, :/

commenter3346
3 years 9 months ago

The Braves should have traded Jurrjens a lot earlier, when his value was at an all time high — when he had a 1.98 ERA & was pitching really well. Instead they kept him & he did what he does quite often, go on the DL. They had the depth to do it.

3 years 9 months ago

If only they were psychics… They were arguably the second best team in the NL by a long margin when Jurrjens was healthy and dealing.  Why would they have traded him when they were pushing for a playoff spot?

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 9 months ago

They have a ton of pitching depth and would have been strengthening another part of the ball club or the farm system by trading him when his value was highest.

Jurrjens was going to fall to Earth at some point… he isn’t a pitcher capable of sustaining a 1.98 ERA with his terrible k/9 rates.

3 years 9 months ago

why would you trade someone when his ERA is that low. that was the top 5 in the NL possibly the entire MLB and i don’t think anyone would trade their pitcher doing that at all

disgustedcubfan
3 years 9 months ago

How about Alfonso Soriano and a boatload cash?

RiverKKiller999
3 years 9 months ago

How about Starlon Castro? Ha.

EarlyMorningBoxscore
3 years 9 months ago

I’ve never heard of Starlon Castro…is he as good as his brother Starlin?

RiverKKiller999
3 years 9 months ago

God, I hate annoying replies like this above me ^. Correcting me doesn’t make you look smart. Sorry. Seems like some people just don’t know what a typo is.

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
3 years 9 months ago

Seriously replying to a joke comment makes you look like an internet tough guy.

kevb197731
3 years 9 months ago

I would love for the Cubs to send Soriano packing and maybe a prospect. Jurrijens would be a great pick up and prado could play 3rd since ARam won’t be there.

Guest
3 years 9 months ago

I’d love for the braves to do a live-action rambo stunt show after every friday home game, but it aint happenin

3 years 9 months ago

the braves will not take soriano. i will bet all of my money on that

true2lablue
3 years 9 months ago

Jurrjens & Prado to the Dodgers for Ethier & Ivan DeJesus……Make it happen Ned =)

quadbravesfan
3 years 9 months ago

No dice. Ethier is LH and only has 1 yr left

mikk402
3 years 9 months ago

ha well then why don’t we get the dodgers to throw in Dee Gordon while their at it

3 years 9 months ago

Joe Sheehan already said yesterday that the Braves should trade Teheran and Minor for Ethier…not sure which of this is more laughable.

At least yours was in jest rather than printed in Sports Illustrated…which editor fell asleep at the wheel??

-C

notsureifsrs
3 years 9 months ago

if the royals give up myers in a deal for jurrjens … good lord

andrew hamer
3 years 9 months ago

as long as dayton moore is gm in kc…. then any brave is a trade target….. jurrjens will be a royal in 2012

3 years 9 months ago

The Royals need to wait until they’re competitive in the Central to see who what they really need to sure up through trade. They shouldn’t throw around all of their prospects looking for guys that won’t help them single-handedly win the Central.

Christian camlin
3 years 9 months ago

The Royals are closer than you think . Starting pitchers are all they need .

quadbravesfan
3 years 9 months ago

Jurrjens, Prado for Gordon, Myers, and a spec

oct27
3 years 9 months ago

Ha.  Surely you jest.  Gordon AND Myers?

theROYALSguy
3 years 9 months ago

no way they let go of gordon. keep dreamin braves fans

3 years 9 months ago

wowwwwwww

3 years 9 months ago

good luck with that. the braves will only go for a top tier short stop if they dont want to resign alex gonzo and prado could take that role over

Yankees420
3 years 9 months ago

Are you suggesting the Braves would turn down that deal?

Christian camlin
3 years 9 months ago

Alex Gordon not Dee Gordon .Alex is a gold glove outfielder .

Christian camlin
3 years 9 months ago

what are you smoking .Royals will not trade Gordon &don’t need  Prado . Maybe Wil Myers &Mitch Maier for Jurrjens straight .

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
3 years 9 months ago

It’s funny how people are taking this comment seriously.

quadbravesfan
3 years 9 months ago

I somehow left out Bethancourt. 

setupunchtag
3 years 9 months ago

With Gordon and Myer in the deal you somehow left out Tommy Hanson, Beachy, Minor or Julio Terehan. Very funny, though.

Jeff
3 years 9 months ago

Simply put, KC’s window is open next year, if they can get some good SP.  JJ is good SP.  He’s worth a guy who is blocked somewhat.

arock1234
3 years 9 months ago

Jurrjens seems like an Anthopolous type of pitcher. Lowered valued because of injuries over last 2 years… only 2nd time through arbritration so he is under team control for a while. I’m sure Atlanta would have to be blown away by an offer mind you.

rundmc1981
3 years 9 months ago

Not “blown away”. “Bowled over”, maybe. If KC gave up a legitimate LF, SS, or 3B option, I wouldn’t be surprised to see JJ in KC.

Guest
3 years 9 months ago

JJ plus a guided tour of Turner Field complete with a chance to meet Homer would probably talk Moore into giving us all of those things.

Christian camlin
3 years 9 months ago

The Royals have 3 Extra centerfielders And 2 prospects who play short and third . We have outfielders by the dozen & scads of unestabished starting pitching prospects . A possible deal might be Wil Myers and Wil Smith for Jurjens. But we don’t have A spot for  Prado with outfield covered and with Giavotella at second . If Giavotella played third we might have a deal .

3 years 9 months ago

No way myers is included in that deal.  Cain for jerrjens straight up is the most i would do.  Unless they want to talk beachy

3 years 9 months ago

I disagree.  Jurrjens doesn’t have top of the rotation (especially in the AL East) potential, and that’s the only type of guy they’re looking to add.

Andy Mc
3 years 9 months ago

And he’s a fly-ball pitcher. Not good in Toronto, not to mention many of the other parks we play in (esp. BOS/NYY).

YanksFanSince78
3 years 9 months ago

2 more years isn’t exactly “a while” is it? 

3 years 9 months ago

If Kelly Johnson walks, Thames+something for Prado, stick Prado at 2b.

Triple Hawpes Brewed
3 years 9 months ago

Layoff the crackpipe

Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 9 months ago

After trading Wells to the Angels, I’ll stay on the crackpipe, thank you very much.

-Alex Anthopoulos

3 years 9 months ago

thames and prado will be involved in nothing

BCRNC
3 years 9 months ago

You don’t trade your best pitcher mid season.  JJ was our best pitcher at the time.  He was due to regress, but nobody predicted how bad his second half would be. 

Brv Rocks
3 years 9 months ago

Jurrjens isn’t the best pitcher.  Hudson is the best followed by Hanson and then Beachy.

BCRNC
3 years 9 months ago

Once again, JJ WAS our best guy around the break.  Hudson was the best for the whole season. 

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 9 months ago

ERA wise maybe. He had an awful k/9 ratio and it was pretty much an guarantee he was going to come back down to Earth ERA wise.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 9 months ago

Ok what are ppl missing here. Twice he said “best at the time”. That times was prior to the July trade deadline.

FIP is best used to analyze results and to decipher how/good bad a pitcher really was but in terms of “results” and limiting the runs on the field you can absolutely say that up until July 31st he was their best pitcher.

Mar/Apr- best ERA and a 3.03 FIP which was w/in 0.15 of the best FIP of 2.88
May- best ERA and best FIP of any starter that pitched more than 11 innings.
June- Bested by Beachy, Hanson and Hudson
July- 2nd best ERA despite a higher FIP of 4.03.

All in all, in terms of results, he was their best pitcher up until July 31st, and if you can make an arguement for Hudson it wouldn’t be a hands down victory (Hudson had a horrible May).

Jeff
3 years 9 months ago

I think just like BABIP is a “skill”, ERA can be a “skill” just as much.  I think JJ has that “skill”

not_brooks
3 years 9 months ago

Prado can still play second base, right? The Orioles could use a second baseman. And maybe the Braves will feel sorry for the O’s since they don’t have a GM.

Felix Pie for Prado!

MB923
3 years 9 months ago

And what would they do with Roberts?

philliesfan136
3 years 9 months ago

Not only is that a stupid trade, but Pie isn’t even on the Orioles anymore.

3 years 9 months ago

wow. go ahead and never post again

not_brooks
3 years 9 months ago

Wow. I know sarcasm generally doesn’t translate well to the internet, but come on…

BCRNC
3 years 9 months ago

If Prado and JJ are traded, don’t expect a lot of Major League talent in return.  The trades will be done to save money, and rebuild the farm system.  The money saved will go to SS and an OF (Sizemore?).

bravos16
3 years 9 months ago

I like Sizemore, but injuries are always a problem when signing players. Maybe on a one year incentive laden deal if he is about the only one left, but other than that I expect for the Braves to go after Willingham or Cuddyer right now and if the trade happens maybe Beltran. I like the JJ and Prado for Wil Myers idea to save money to spend on LF, SS (if Pastornicky isn’t given a shot), and UT IF. The trade would open up about another $6MM+ for signing players and it would replenish the offensive aspect of the farm system at the same time. It would also open up rotation spots for both Teheran and Minor should Medlen be kept in the pen next year. If the Braves trust their young talent like they did with Freeman this year then the trade could be a very good idea. The only reason I would want to keep Prado is because he could be converted back to a super-utility role, but a rather expensive one. 

BCRNC
3 years 9 months ago

That’s what I was thinking with Sizemore.  Low risk contract so he can show the Yankees, or whoever, that he’s still got it.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 9 months ago

I don’t see why they won’t be able to get something good in return for JJ. He is only owed $3.2 mil. Health is an obvious concern but we aren’t talking about a Derek Lowe contract here.

Yankees420
3 years 9 months ago

3.25MM was his ’11 salary in his 1st arb year.  He’ll likely see a bump up to the 5-6MM range for what it’s worth.  

3 years 9 months ago

Twins would be a great target..

Aaron Hicks?
Span?
Benson?
Sign and trade for Cuddy? 

rundmc1981
3 years 9 months ago

Why weren’t not in the mix for Cuddyer or Jason Kubel, I don’t know. Both could be affordable with some depth and power. Knowing they’re from MIN, they’d be good clubhouse guys, too.

Brv Rocks
3 years 9 months ago

Kubel is a DH and Cuddyer will likely command more $$$ than the Braves are willing to pay.

3 years 9 months ago

Here’s the problem I have with Prado—-an OBP that is only 40-50 points higher than batting average consistently year after year. I look for a top flight bat to have OBP 80-100 points higher than batting average, this guy was subpar in that category even in his best year, which tells me that the best year is the outlier, not this years dropping back to more typical results. So not a high value guy as a bat, and when I here either 2B or left field I hear no particular defensive skills present. 

DK8
3 years 9 months ago

Yes, but you’re assuming he’s not a legit high BA guy, which he is.  His BABIPs over the last 4 years were .357, .331, .335, and .266.  To me, that looks like 2011 is the outlier.  Given the injuries he dealt with in 2011, it would make sense that 2011 is not representative of his true talent.  He is probably a true talent .300/.350/.450, which is pretty valuable if you put him at 2B or 3B, but not as much in LF.

DK8
3 years 9 months ago

He’s also been roughly league average defensively in the aggregate over the last 4 years, spending significant time at 2B, 3B, and OF.  You could make a “jack of all trades/master of none argument,” but I’d say that being able to play those 3 positions at an average MLB level is pretty valuable.