Padres Notes: Quentin, Bell, Baker, Scouting

The Padres have Carlos Quentin "on their list of possibilities" for an offseason trade, reports Bill Center of the San Diego Union-Tribune.  It seems like a good match, given that the White Sox are thought to have Quentin on the market and the Padres are looking for a corner outfielder.  Center mentions elsewhere in his chat with readers that given the Padres' difficulty in luring free agent hitters to Petco Park, a trade would be the club's best chance to add that desired corner outfield help.

Quentin has posted a .257/.352/.505 line over the last four seasons in Chicago, though it remains to be seen how his bat and his glove (a career UZR/150 of -9.3, though this metric also shows Quentin was an above-average defensive right fielder in 2011) would play in spacious Petco Park.  If Quentin was acquired, he and Cameron Maybin would play every day, with Center including Chris Denorfia, Jesus Guzman, Kyle Blanks, Mark Kotsay and Will Venable all in the mix at the other corner outfield spot.

Some other news about the Friars…

  • Also from Center, GM Josh Byrnes is "actively talking trade with a number of clubs."  Center lists Maybin, Nick Hundley, Mat Latos and Anthony Rizzo as "the only players who I believe are close to untouchable."
  • Former Padres GM Jed Hoyer tells Tom Krasovic of Inside The Padres that the new collective bargaining agreement played a big role in the club's decision to keep Heath Bell at last summer's trade deadline.  "We checked with MLB several times to make sure the compensation system wouldn't be eliminated after the 2011 season," Hoyer said.  "The value of the picks was the crux of our decision not to trade him in July or August. In our minds (and many people were involved in the decision), we never were offered anything all that close to the value of the draft picks in return."  If Bell turns down San Diego's offer of arbitration and signs elsewhere, Bell's modified Type A status means that the Padres would receive a first-round pick in a slot directly ahead of Bell's new team, plus a supplementary round pick.
  • Writing for Fangraphs, Mike Axisa thinks the Padres got the better end of the recent John Baker-for-Wade LeBlanc trade.
  • The Padres' willingness to spend on their international scouting and development system is paying dividends, writes Dan Hayes of the North County Times.

59 Responses to Padres Notes: Quentin, Bell, Baker, Scouting Leave a Reply

  1. Carlos Quentin would be a great pick up for the Padres.

    • Jeff 4 years ago

      How about this idea for a 3-way:

      Pads get Seth Smith
      Rockies get Martin Prado
      Braves get Chase Headley

      Throw in prospects as needed to even things out.

      • Headley being traded is close to impossible, considering that he’s really the only consistent hitter in the lineup. You guys can have Hudson though.

        • johnnycomelately9 4 years ago

          Wrong. Gyrko led the AFL in hitting and Darnell and Forsythe got called up last September

          3B is their deepest spot offensively

        • A 3B who can’t hit for power. Pass. Even if he’s gonna hit .290 he doesn’t drive in runs, whether that be his fault or the players around him 3B is a production position and he really doesn’t produce.

      • AirmanSD 4 years ago

        Why would the Padres want Seth Smith? He is left handed, a fact that seriously limits his value to the Padres (PETCO is murder on lefties). Acccording to +OPS and WOBA he is Will Venable, soild against rights (110 vs 111 career or .330 vs .377 ) terrible against lefties (54 vs 42 or .257 vs .262 ). The idea behind any deal for an outfield is to upgrade the offense not for it to be a push. He has advantage in hitting righties but not enough of one to consider him an upgrade in SD, especially since you have the Padres giving up the same amount of years of Headley.

        • GasLampGuru 4 years ago

          You beat me to it.  Seth Smith holds little to no value for the Padres.  

      • I’d rather have Prado. 

        • No way in hell Padres could get Prado.

        • Jeff 4 years ago

          You’d rather have Prado then Headley?

          Headley+ position prospect or two might get you Prado, seriously.  He is on the block.

      • Cankersly 4 years ago

        Make it CarGo instead of Seth smith and it sounds alright to me.

      • briankoke 4 years ago

        Padres are getting raped in that proposal. Make that a hell no.

  2. gr8testsoxfan 4 years ago

    Who would the give us in return? Nobody comes to mind

    • Dylan Ramirez 4 years ago

      Tim Stauffer for Quentin? I wonder why the Padres would trade for someone that is only under contract for a year when they really shouldn’t expect to compete. 

      • Beersy 4 years ago

        If I remember correctly there were Stauffer for Lawrie rumors last off season.  Man do I wish Hoyer had pulled that trigger.  As for Stauffer for Quentin I would have no interest in that.   Stauffer may not light up the radar gun, but he sure knows how to pitch.

      • Quentin is from SD, maybe they have some weird, crazy hope he’d re-up at a cost they can afford?

  3. Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

    Hows about the Braves get Quentin? I’d like that better.

  4. I hope that the Padres aren’t really serious about giving up a top-tier talent for Quentin. I think we’re good with the outfield with the Maybin/ Blanks/ Venable trio. 
    We need to look for a left-handed batter instead who’ll potentially drive in some runs.

    • GasLampGuru 4 years ago

      Blanks and Venable can’t hit.  Quentin would be a massive upgrade at either corner OF spot for them, and there is really no debating that.  This team needs a legit power threat in the heart of the order.  Given that his numbers have slipped the last couple years and he’s only under contract for one season, it won’t take top-tier talent to get him.

      • marinest21 4 years ago

        Blanks has only 420 ML ab’s to his name and will be only 25 heading into next year, kind of in the same situation as Cameron Maybin was in last season. I say give him a full year to stay healthy and let’s see what he can do. Way to young to say he can’t hit IMO, esp, with that RH’ed power bat.

        • GasLampGuru 4 years ago

          I was merely making the point that it’s a little premature (if not foolish) to suggest that the Padres outfield is “fine” in its current form.  Maybin is currently the only true everyday player in our outfield mix.  Everyone else is either a platoon player, a 4th outfielder, or just an extra piece.  

          We know Venable can’t hit – at least not consistently – and he’s unlikely to improve much at his age.  Blanks is still an unknown with some big holes in his swing.  Denorfia is a 4th outfielder on any other club.  Kotsay is just an extra piece.  Guzman may wind up playing LF out of necessity, but no one really knows how he’ll perform over a full season.

          Quentin, by comparison, is a proven commodity.  There is less guess work with him than our current outfield mix.  You have to respect his power, which isn’t really something you can honestly say about anyone else on the roster.  Getting a proven slugger like him might take some pressure off of everyone else.

      • Beersy 4 years ago

        Would Quentin be a “legit power threat” if he played 81 games at Petco?  He always seems to have something wrong with him and he doesn’t really fit the “athletic player” mold that the Padres are wanting to acquire.  If, and that’s a big if, Byrnes could talk Amaro into a Headley for Brown swap and then plug in Guzman at 3rd until Gyorko is ready, hopefully by 2013, the Padres could really have something.

        • lolpods 4 years ago

          if he’s healthy, the ball goes bye bye no matter where he plays.

  5. NYBravosFan10 4 years ago

    Is it me or have the Padres been the most exciting team when it comes to trade speculation the past 5 years?

  6. Dylan 4 years ago

    I can definitely see Phillies and Padres matching up with a deal for Chase Headley. I’d expect that the Pads could get a good return for him

    • johnnycomelately9 4 years ago

      They could get him IMO if they deal Brown and or Martinez

      • Beersy 4 years ago

        That’s exactly what I was thinking.  If the Phillies are in complete win now mode they may be willing to deal Brown for Headley.  Maybin and Brown would be a great nucleus for the athletic team the Padres are trying to build.  As for Quentin, he does not interest me in the least.

  7. Bob George 4 years ago

    Quentin has had so many foot injuries and his range is so limited I can’t picture him playing the OF in a very large park, and with SF and Colorado’s parks also in that division, that doesn’t seem like a great fit.

    • Beersy 4 years ago

      Byrnes should stay as far away from Quentin as possible.  If the Padres want a corner outfielder who can’t field, they already have him in Blanks and Guzman.

      • Amish_willy 4 years ago

        No kidding. I’ll be bumed/pissed if they trade for a guy to block Blanks, like landing Quentin would. Blanks first year back from TJ surgery had him hitting 35 2b’s 6 3b’s & 22 HR’s in 134 games (543 PA) between AA, AAA & SD. His tour in 2011 in SD had him posting a 26.8% strikeout rate. Down from 38.3% & 32% the previous two years and much closer to his rate in the minors, 20%.

        I would be keeping my eye out for a legit long-term option for RF, someone a notch or two above the likes of Venable, Denorfia & Cunningham. That said, I disagree with the “need” of upgrading a corner outfield position. My priorities would be seeing if Blanks can put together a full season in the majors and seeing if Venable can become a more consistent player. Both players have four years of control entering 2012, and if things go right with either, those will be four valuable years, for whomever they are playing for. Pairing Venable with a RF that pounds lefties is key, a guy like Cody Ross and his career .282/.349/.563, that’s 46 hr’s in 759 PA against them, might represent an ideal plaoon. Denorfia is perfectly suitable for the role and he’s already here, he doesn’t have the kind of power as Ros but as a Padre has hit .312/.387/.442 versus them the past two years. 

        Then you have Guzman, who if he continues to hit as well as he did, and with his contact ability and strike-zone knowledge, I’m thinking he probably will, he’ll get plenty of playing time at the corners, with the likely exception of RF. Guzman will probably be a super-2 in 2014, but he still has 6 years of control left.

        Reading Center’s stance on LF, “well they were below average in 2011 so upgrades should be looked into”, doesn’t jibe with me. Blanks (7/22) & Guzman (6/17) weren’t even around the first half of the season. Quentin is a mediocre fit for the Padres at this time.

        • Beersy 4 years ago

          I’m pretty sure I am in the minority, but I don’t think the Padres need to add power.  They need to build around guys who hit the gaps for doubles and triples and can steal bases.  Guys like Maybin and Venable, when he’s going right and man do I wish he could just find his groove, he could be great.  I don’t think you could find a consistent power threat who played 81 games at Petco, but gap hitters play anywhere.  I can’t wait to see what Gyorko and Spangenberg can do at Petco, hitters who perfectly fit the mold of a Petco hitter.

  8. hallwagner 4 years ago

    why do they think so highly of hundley? the guy is garbage and they have to como to terms with that. given he was like the 4th best hitter on the padres last year, but that says more about the padres than anything else.

    • iheartyourfart 4 years ago

      more than 3 WAR in half a season…. most teams would kill for that kind of production from a catcher.  his production was almost on par with brian mccann in 50 less games. just saying

  9. Zuidvogels 4 years ago

    First let me state I’m not bringing up the Red Sox just to get them mentioned in here. I just find it odd that they get linked to so many players and I haven’t seen them linked to Quentin. I mean they need a RHH OF. It just seems out of all the names they have been linked to, he would make alot more sense then some previously mentioned.

    • 0bsessions 4 years ago

      Quentin’s been brought up before, but I’m not sold on him.

      He COULD be a good fit offensively. He’s got plenty of power and his walk numbers are great. The downsides though are he cannot seem to hit for average and I’m hard pressed to blame the team around him for that as he’s got a terribly low BAbip on his career which makes it look like he probably makes a lot of weak contact. On top of that, his defense is just terrible.

      He’s an okay option, but he’s going to cost something like six or seven million and he’s only under contract for one more season and he’d need some work to be a viable option. If he had three years of team control, I’d move on him to see if a change of scenery/coaching could get that BA up (Get that BA up to a moderate .280 and his plate discipline makes him a valuable commodity, ala his 2008). As it stands, though, with only one year left I’d rather just stick with Kalish and see if Willingham is open to being a fourth outfielder now that he doesn’t cost a pick. I’d only take Quentin if he came cheap and was willing to agree to never try to hit to the opposite field while at Fenway (The Monster would do wonders for that BAbip of his).

      • lolpods 4 years ago

        he would destroy in fenway. SSS, but at fenway: .304/.396/.543

        and if you’re worrying about avg with quentin, you’re doing it wrong.

  10. westcoastwhitesox 4 years ago

    Considering the damaged goods (Peavy) the Sox got from the Padres last time they made a trade, I’d be skeptical of getting fair value for Quentin.  

    • johnnycomelately9 4 years ago

      To argue your point: someone new is at that decision helm. To agree with you: Byrnes is better than Hoyer and the reason he got the job. I think KT made the Peavy deal; but I will say the pads have at least 20 prospects that should be MLB regulars. If a team trades with them they can get players that will help. Not superstars but multiple contributors.

  11. Quentin huh? I wonder why that’s familiar… lol

  12. TheReturnOfMrBlanks 4 years ago

    So I haven’t paid any attention to baseball during football season, just clicked on this and saw all the Chase Headley lovers are at it again lol, give it a rest and let Brynes trade him in peace! I would love to see him go

  13. John 4 years ago

    Hes a ceee.

  14. Someone still likes Barry Zito?

  15. Ohhhplease 4 years ago

    Congrats on naming yourself after the biggest fraud of a pitcher in the big leagues.  Zito is way more interested in surfing and playing is guitar than figuring out why he is not worth a fraction of the 126 million he is raping the Giants for…..

  16. Dylan Ramirez 4 years ago

    He’s one of the few players in baseball that hits better at Petco than on the road. You keep a player like that, plus he’s a team leader and a hard worker.

  17. johnnycomelately9 4 years ago

    Pitchers love him. Check out last years numbers and record without him in the lineup? Also probably the current offensive leader inside the club house. He also doesn’t cost much.

  18. grownice 4 years ago

     That trademark signature at the bottom of your comments is irritating.

  19. marinest21 4 years ago

    He doesn’t hit better in Petco than on the road, check the splits…..

  20. marinest21 4 years ago

    Who cares if Blanks is a fly ball hitter? Still dropped 20 HR over 400+ AB’s (1/2 in Petco) while playing with a bum elbow and under 25. Those totals would beat anyone minus Ludwick. This team needs a RH’ed power threat, and currently Blanks is the guy.

  21. johnnycomelately9 4 years ago

    No I mean the Arizona Fall League. The offseason league made up of most teams top prospects… He won the batting title. He hit well over 350 During the season in the Cal League. He probably didn’t receive the league MVP over Gary Brown because he got called up to AA. In the Texas league he didn’t kill it; but he played huge in the playoffs while helping the Mission to the title.

  22. So if the AFL is made up of top prospects, and he led the league in hitting, wouldn’t that go for something?

  23. johnnycomelately9 4 years ago

    That’s why I mentioned him. If the pads want power they can go with Darnell who hit over 310 with 23 homers before his sept call up from AAA (Granted its an extreme hitting league like the AFL). Gyrko in all honesty is built similar to Headley; but it’s also possible that he or Forsythe could move to 2b if Hudson is moved. If the team could get a high upside but risk prospect like Dom brown ( like Maybin last year) then they could trade Headley. Their #1 prospect is also a 3B and has 5 tool talent with over 60 sb last year in A ball. They could also keep Headley until Liriano is ready (he could move to a corner OF spot) and trade one of the other 3b prospects mentioned but they probably can’t get as much as they can for Headley.

  24. greengrove 4 years ago

    Rymer Liriano hasnt played a single game in the infield in the minors. Definitely a corner outfielder. Gyorko is also not ready. Also, there seems to be a ton of random conjecture for a trade that will never happen.

  25. Dylan Ramirez 4 years ago

    Are you confusing Headley and Hundley? because Hundley clearly hits better at Petco than on the road. Hundley’s career stats in 479 ABs at home he’s hit .271 with 21 home runs compared to .241 with 9 Hrs on the road. His numbers look even better in 2011 and 2010 at home, but I won’t go into those. 

  26. Ohhhplease 4 years ago

    Isn’t that what this site is all about??

  27. MrBZito75 3 years ago

    *2012 Postseason HERO

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