Central Notes: Neil Walker, Royals, Oswalt

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  1. Alright DD, trade Young+ for Prado, and sign Cespedes for LF.

    • Why are Oswalt’s people meeting the KC people in Milwaukee?

       Is the Kansas City airport closed for the winter?

  2. Roy, K.C. is ready to welcome you with open arms!

    • That would be an absolutely horrible signing for the Royals.  Roy can’t stay healthy anymore, the royals need 200 innings from someone that is a horse.  Roy doesn’t fit that bill anymore, especially with his price tag

      • Anymore? The guy is one year removed from an elite season and we don’t even know if his back problem is degenerative. It’s an absolutely worthwhile risk if the rumors are true.

        • and the year before that it was the exact same inconsistencies as this year.  Back problems tend to linger.  I agree that it would be a good acquisition for the Royals at the right price and if they don’t guarantee more than two years, but with a lower payroll you cannot afford a starter taking a large chunk of it and starting 20 or so games with mixed results

    • That would be an absolutely horrible signing for the Royals.  Roy can’t stay healthy anymore, the royals need 200 innings from someone that is a horse.  Roy doesn’t fit that bill anymore, especially with his price tag

  3. Oswalt talking to the royals? rofl. have fun winning there clown, resign here for 2 yrs 16 mill and win a WS

    • David McCutcheon 4 years ago

      Because that worked out real nice for the Phils this postseason, right?

    • Philip Marlowe 4 years ago

      I don’t know that I agree with you. Minus Rollins, and with Howard, Utley, and Polanco aging worse than expected, I don’t see the Phillies being competitive for much longer. You’re one Halladay/Lee shoulder surgery away from third place in the NL East.

      I think the odds are just as good of a Royals WS by 2020 as they are of a Phillies WS.

  4. dtowntigers43 4 years ago

    1.prado
    2.Boesch
    3.cespedes
    4.cabrera
    5.vmart
    6.avilia
    7.peralta
    8.jackson
    9.figgins

    • dinoes 4 years ago

      not gonna happen

      • dtowntigers43 4 years ago

        i dont really want it to happen to be honest i would rather see the tiger sign a coco crisp or grady sizmore for a year or two till our top outfueld prospect is ready

        • LiveFastCyYoung 4 years ago

          Who’s this “top outfield prospect” you speak of? Tyler Collins is about the only thing I’d call an outfield prospect in the Tigers system and he is no sure thing.

          • JacksTigers 4 years ago

            I’m hoping that they git rid of the Type A free agents. If they do that, Dombrowski and Avila could really build up a nice farm.

          • dtowntigers43 4 years ago

            fields lol

    • jumpsuitjohnny 4 years ago

       Cespedes is drawing interest from the Tigers, but ultimately Yanks and the Marlins have the fast track to him, plus he won’t be MLB ready until he gets a year of minors in.

  5. Disqus put me up here. Blah
    However, if the Brew Crew got Furcal and he stayed healthy all year. Brew Crew Fans should be happy with him, if they don’t get Reyes

    • SunsetStripper 4 years ago

      They aren’t going to get Reyes.  They don’t have the money. 

      • Philip Marlowe 4 years ago

        They have the money if Fielder walks. 

        • SunsetStripper 4 years ago

          No they don’t. Weeks gets a $6.5 million raise, Corey
          Hart gets a $2.5 million raise, Braun gets a $2 million raise, and Gallardo
          gets a $2 million raise. That’s $13 million right there. Not to mention Carlos
          Gomez, Nyjer Morgan, Cameron Loe, and Casey McGehee are all arbitration
          eligible and will receive raises. So no they do not have the money to sign Jose
          Reyes. Clint Barmes is more likely.

    • If the Brewers are dumb enough to give Furcal a three year commitment, I hope he wears his ring every day

  6. Mikey Roederer 4 years ago

    I really like the Oswalt to KC thing..if they get him for a couple of years to mentor the young staff, and I agree with what has been mentioned above, KC is much closer to competing than not..plus then he doesn’t have to worry about batting anymore!! 

    and besides a the city of KC could probably utilize his bulldozer to clean up some bad neighborhoods 😉

  7. tmengd 4 years ago

    Wouldnt it be funny if crane was waiting to sign free agents till he was officially owner because he doesnt trust wade and wants to fire him to let a competent gm trade wandy and go after a couple of decent free agents. He tells wade there is no money to spend.then once new gm Is there all the sudden goes after bigger fish.

  8. The question is “what type of free agent does Crane have in mind”? Bill Hall? Clint Barmes? Maybe Wade will go out and sign Jason Michaels again.

    • tmengd 4 years ago

      I think wade is toast.they will go hard aftfreidman or someone else.I think he might go after someone young for the future but also to please the fans for the move.the last thing a new one wants is to be hated straight out of the box.depends how much discount he gets for moving I guess.wouldnt be shocked for another promised all star game, a draft pick or some other compensation to help pease fans.

  9. dtowntigers43 4 years ago

    @verlander:disqus i love you:D

  10. BetweenNames 4 years ago

    The Royals might shock us all and be kicking the tires around on CJ Wilson not Roy Oswalt…

    • dtowntigers43 4 years ago

      who cares one pitcher isnt going to make them good! they need 4 pitchers to contend i see them trading for jurgens and siging oswalt as the best situation for them if they do that theyll finish in 2nd place in the central behind the tigers

      • Adam Riso 4 years ago

        They have already traded for Sanchez who just had a bad year.  If they get Oswalt, they then have their top two guys in the rotation.  You can fill in 3-5 with Chen, Hochevar, and Paulino.  Not to mention Duffy.  Just because the Tigers may have a better player at each position on the field and the rotation does not mean that the Tigers will beat the Royals every time they play each other.  According to Baseball Reference. the Royals were 7-11 against the Tigers last year, and although that isn’t the best, if the Royals have 2 more lucky bounces, they spit the season series. The Royals actually scored 9 more runs than the Tigers in 2011. The difference between the two teams isn’t as large as most Tigers fans would like to believe.  (BTW, how did our BACKUP third baseman do for you guys last year?  Glad to help.)

        • dtowntigers43 4 years ago

          he did fine lol and thats cool though that you think moustakis is going to be good, he will be but wait 2 more years castellanos will be better! and oh yeah i forgot to mention the tigers #1 prospect and mlb’s #7prospect will be in the rotation next year and hes only 20 years old!

          • stl_cards16 4 years ago

            Tigers are so big and bad…..they are mouthing the Royals.

          • dtowntigers43 4 years ago

            the cars won i give u props but you guys are getting older i  would like to see you keep pujols and go after reyes

    • dtowntigers43 4 years ago

      who cares one pitcher isnt going to make them good! they need 4 pitchers to contend i see them trading for jurgens and siging oswalt as the best situation for them if they do that theyll finish in 2nd place in the central behind the tigers

    • slider32 4 years ago

      Why would CJ go to the Royals?

      • BetweenNames 4 years ago

        Oh I get it why would anyone want to come to Kansas City… um maybe because they are a young up and coming team… Not all players want to play in big markets… 

        By the way what part of my post did you not read? I never said he would come here; only that the Royals might be kicking the tires around…

  11. BetweenNames 4 years ago

    The Royals might shock us all and be kicking the tires around on CJ Wilson not Roy Oswalt…

  12. sourbob 4 years ago

    Alternate headline for Nightengale’s piece: “Brewers Pursuing Two Infielders, Prefer the Younger One Who Is Better at Baseball.”

    • daveineg 4 years ago

      Furcal is older than Ramirez.  Frankly as a Brewer fan, these are the kind of names that depress me.  Overpriced.  Past their primes.  We’ve seen this act before in Milwaukee.

      Who are they kidding?

      • sourbob 4 years ago

        Ah, you’re totally right. I had a brain fart and was thinking Reyes, not Furcal.

  13. Come on MO! Jump on Furcal before the Brewers take him.

    (Don’t jump hard though. He’ll end up on the DL.)

  14. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    ” the Brewers have strong reservations about Furcal and may stick with Yuniesky Betancourt.”

    link to i.imgur.com

    • Fizzzay 4 years ago

      I feel just like that file.

    • slider32 4 years ago

      I think the Brewers need to think about their replacement in production for Fielder. They need a major upgrade in their offense to be competitive in the central.

      • Mikey Roederer 4 years ago

        They still Have Braun and Hart and Weeks don’t they? They need to replace it sure, but maybe not as much as you think…

  15. DT Flush234 4 years ago

    Doubt Furcal will go to the Brewers. They will pursue Reyes or Rollins because they have extra cash to pursue bigger FA.

  16. NYPOTENCE 4 years ago

    This Walker kid is an instrumental piece for the Pirates future, it would be wise for them to lock him up beyond his arbitration period. Walker, McCutchen and Alvarez seems like a good foundation alongside Heredia, Cole, Taillon, and Allie

  17. iancahill 4 years ago

    I hate baseball fans that blindly mock the Royals. Yes the team has been bad for awhile, but drafting top 10 for a decade sorts it self out eventually, ask the Detroit Lions…

  18. Royals Fan 4 years ago

    If you don’t think the Royals are poised to compete in the near future, then you know absolutely nothing about baseball.

  19. BetweenNames 4 years ago

    Why, because the Royals will over pay for him… and they will compete if they get some pitching…

  20. Maybe because KC is actually on the verge of being really good and is just a couple of good starting pitchers away from challenging the Tigers for the division?

  21. dtowntigers43 4 years ago

    you play in the divison with the best pitcher in baseball who is only 28 years old(jv) and arguably the best hitter in the game who is only 28 years old(cabrera) and oh yeah they play for the same team…. that guy has no clue what he is talking about! clueless

  22. BetweenNames 4 years ago

    Duh because Greinke was a head case and wanted out…

  23. Moe Lester 4 years ago

    Grienke wanted out, and the royals got a good deal for him.
    KC may not be far off from competing, and a .500 team may happen this year if we tie up the rotation.  But I do wonder how bad Oswalts back is. 

  24. daveineg 4 years ago

    Greinke brought them their starting SS, next seasons starting CF, and a top pitching prospect.  Greinke would have been gone after 2012 and he may never be the ace he was in 2009.

  25. dtowntigers43 4 years ago

    who wouldnt want out of kc their awful

  26. That’s nonsense, Greinke wanted out.
    2nd The only weakness is the Royal rotation. Their line-up is very good. I love their young and hard throwing bullpen. If they could cobble together a rotation, they would be in business! Meche helped out the Royals tremendously financially by retiring .

  27. Moe Lester 4 years ago

    Yoda, quit doing coke it’s bad for you.  Grienke wanted out, he even said it to the local news(something like he was basically tired of losing and he didn’t expect the young talent to help much before his contract was up).

  28. BetweenNames 4 years ago

    Gordon, Butler and Soria are guys who don’t want out…

  29. twenty1thirteen 4 years ago

    Perhaps anyone that would want to have grammar skills above a 5th grade level?

  30. The Royals own awful?

    Oh…you see I was confused because you used the possessive form of “there, their, they’re.” 

    You were looking for “they’re” awful. 

  31. The Royals lineup is younger and just as talented as the Tigers. The only difference between the two teams is Verlander, and if the Royals can get another upgrade to their rotation the gap would shrink significantly.

  32. c_monley 4 years ago

    So you just sit back and not do anything? That’s a stupid way to look at things. The Royals were 6th in the AL in runs scored. The bullpen is solid. All the Royals need is pitching. They have more payroll flexibility than almost any team is baseball outside the super rich teams. Taking a chance on Oswalt may be just the move the Royals should make so as not to hurt our great minor league system. And the contract would be short enough to allow us to re-sign our present players before they go the free agent route.

  33. Philip Marlowe 4 years ago

    LOL butthurt Phillies fan.

    But seriously, I’ve never been anti-Phillies, largely because I hate the Mets and the Braves and the enemy of my enemy is my friend. However, you can’t deny how old this team is getting. In 2014, the last year of Doc’s contract (assuming they pick up his option), he’ll be 37. Utley, Howard, and Lee will all be 35, and Papelbon will be 34. In 2014, those five players will combine make just under $100 million dollars, which will likely edge out Victorino, Hamels, and Pence, all of whom deserve big paydays in their own right. The payroll is, as you said, ALMOST limitless, but it’s not limitless, and the farm is nearly barren after big acquisitions like Lee, Halladay, and Pence.

    All I’m saying is that your window of opportunity is closing, and it’s closing fast. The Phillies are old, bloated, and expensive, and that’s not changing anytime soon.

  34. Will Grandi 4 years ago

    Limitless payroll?  They have been reported to be very close to their budget limit… that is a sinking ship IMO.  Oswalt is probably not heading to KC, but Philly is getting old in a hurry.

  35. MetsMagic 4 years ago

    I remember when the Mets had a limitless payroll…it don’t last. 

  36. BetweenNames 4 years ago

    Go back to playing with Star Wars Lego sets and quit talking nonsense…

  37. twentyfivemanroster 4 years ago

    Wow, you know so little about the Greinke situation that it’s better that you just stop commenting on it.  Can you read?  Have you been trained to use Google?  It’s really not that difficult.  Try it sometime and look for ‘Greinke demands to be traded’ and see/read what he says himself.

  38. daveineg 4 years ago

    Fact is Greinke had one great season.  Royals got back a starting SS, a soon to be starting CF and a likely 2013 starter in Odorizzi.  That’s a pretty good haul for a guy who peaked in 2009 and wouldn’t be around after 2012.

  39. Philip Marlowe 4 years ago

    I agree in principle, but let’s not forget that Verlander’s not a one-man show. Scherzer and Fister would both be considered the ace of the Royals’ staff if either one were to end up in Kansas City tomorrow, and Porcello’s not bad either. 

  40. dtowntigers43 4 years ago

    just as talented?

    C alex avilia is better than anyone you have….All star 24 years old
    1b miguel cabrera way better than hosmer….All star 28 years old
    2b if we get prado way better…All Star 28 years old
    ss peralta hit 21 homeruns way better…All star 28 years old
    3b moustakis is better ill give you that
    LF gordon is better you get that too
    CF jackson is better by far…Best defensive center fielder in the game only 24 years old
    RF boesch is way better than anyone you have…Future all star 25 years old
    DH Martinez drove in over 100 runs again…All star alright hes pretty old

    Pitching we have you beat too so yeah kc wont be contending any time soon… just as much talent?! are you serious? WERE A YOUNG TEAM TOO

  41. verlander 4 years ago

    Contrary to popular belief, the Tigers aren’t a one man circus.

  42. MIGUEL CABRERA , Max Schrezer, Doug Fister, Victor Martinez… Royals have none in this elite class… yet

  43. MIGUEL CABRERA , Max Schrezer, Doug Fister, Victor Martinez… Royals have none in this elite class… yet

  44. slider32 4 years ago

    Cabrera is better than anyone on the Royals, and Fister is better than the Royals #2 just for starters.

  45. Andre B 4 years ago

    The Royals have 5 players signed for next year, with raises due to some of their top-performers.  Just curious as to how much you think the Royals will spend in order to compete in this division, as “good starting pitchers” tend to cost a fair amount, and the Royals are closer to needing “several” than “a couple” in order to compete.

  46. Andre B 4 years ago

    The Royals have 5 players signed for next year, with raises due to some of their top-performers.  Just curious as to how much you think the Royals will spend in order to compete in this division, as “good starting pitchers” tend to cost a fair amount, and the Royals are closer to needing “several” than “a couple” in order to compete.

  47. The Royals “unofficial official” payroll ceiling is about $85-90M, which gives them roughly $45M for raises and signings. Money will not be an issue until the current crop of rookies become arbitration eligible in three years which means we can offer a 3 year contract to a pitcher like Oswalt.

    Hochever, Paulino were good enough in the 2nd half last year to write in the rotation. Duffy’s stuff is good enough to expect him to improve on his rough rookie season. Sanchez is a significant upgrade over Jeff Francis. That leaves us with one rotation spot to fill, and if we actually did sign Oswalt that would put us very near the Tigers in overall talent level.

  48. The Royals “unofficial official” payroll ceiling is about $85-90M, which gives them roughly $45M for raises and signings. Money will not be an issue until the current crop of rookies become arbitration eligible in three years which means we can offer a 3 year contract to a pitcher like Oswalt.

    Hochever, Paulino were good enough in the 2nd half last year to write in the rotation. Duffy’s stuff is good enough to expect him to improve on his rough rookie season. Sanchez is a significant upgrade over Jeff Francis. That leaves us with one rotation spot to fill, and if we actually did sign Oswalt that would put us very near the Tigers in overall talent level.

  49. Wow, homerism at its best. Try taking a more objective look at the rosters.

  50. dinoes 4 years ago

    ff

  51. JacksTigers 4 years ago

    Boesch is 26 and will be 27 in April.

  52. lam0jam0 4 years ago

    I’m sorry, but this is looking through pretty biased glasses. 

    RF Boesch .283 .341 .458 vs. RF Francouer .285 .329 .476 not way better
    CF Jackson .249 .317 .374 brutal like our chances with Lorenzo Cain hitting those numbers
    2B IF you get Prado meaning you don’t have a 2B
    C Avilia .295 .389 .506 vs. C Perez .331 .361 .473 (39 games) granted Avilia’s numbers are very impressive, but don’t sell our future catcher short.  He’s only 21.
    DH Martinez is very good as well, as is our DH Billy Butler
    1B Cabrera Tigers have AL’s best hitter playing 1B.  Hosmer is a terrific young
    player but currently not nearly on Cabrera’s level and will might never
    be on a power level.

    My point being that it’s not as one sided as you make these rosters out to be. Obviously you’re starting pitching is much better which brings us to the point of signing Oswalt who would be a significant upgrade over the starts made by Davies, Mazzaro, and O’Sullivan last year.

  53. jumpsuitjohnny 4 years ago

     Coming from a Tiger fan, I can say confidently the Royals will be the most competetive than any others in the division. I don’t think they’ll take it, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it was close.

    2013 and 2014, I would not be surprised if they took the division and even made a strong run at the World Series. This team has some serious young talent.

  54. dtowntigers43 4 years ago

    i like the royals dont get me wrong but you said they have just as much talent as us as of now however they have talent potential!

    I rock my Royals snapback to school everyday lol

    I think Hosmer should of won ROY but hes not as good as cabrera, he deffinatly can be as good or better but as of now he is not.

    I dont know what you guys have at second base but as of now i like the guy you it starts with a G i think?

    And you have to admit Alex Avilia is really good and really young! i like perez and hopefully he can start for you next year.

    Moustakis is good and hes better than what we have by far but we have a prospect named Nick Castellanos who has just as much upside as him

    As of pitching we have you beat but with your prospects that you have i can actually see a really competive royals team in 2013 or 2014 with that said i like the idea of Oswalt going there and mentoring the young prospects that you have.

    I like alex gordon and it should be a good race to see who wins breakout player of the year between him and avilia.

    I also think you would have to agree with me that brennan boesch is a future all star he has all the tools.

    That lost comment i had was homer-ism at its best but hopefully you will see where im coming from now! If the royals can get 2 starters this off season besides Sanchez they have a good chance at being over 500

  55. JacksTigers 4 years ago

    The Royals have a better 3B, and SS. Jackson and Cain could go either way. Maybe a little better. I don’t see the “Windians” contending again. The Sox look to be in a rebuild mode. Especially if they lose their ace. The Twins are just bad. The Royals are on the up and up. I think that the Royals could contend to an extent in 2012. But I think the Tigers look like the best team this year. The Royals will be very competitive in 2013, though. It will take the Sox and Twins a while to rebuild so I could see the Tigers and Royals being two very good teams from 2013 until about 2017 when there will be a bit more competition to deal with.

  56. JacksTigers 4 years ago

    Take Scherezer out and we’ll check on Fister in a year. Put Avila and Verlander in there. Now we’re good.

  57. dtowntigers43 4 years ago

    i missed typed the 5 for 6 my bad i knew that

  58. slider32 4 years ago

    Two years down the road.

  59. slider32 4 years ago

    The Royals fans have been told that they have the best farm system which they think will translate into a great major league team. This is just not true.

  60. slider32 4 years ago

    I seem to remember the Twins winning this division almost every year up until last year, let’s not jump the gun.

  61. JacksTigers 4 years ago

    They have been told that all of them will develop. I think that Hosmer, Cain, and Giovetela turn out good. I like Salvador Perez too. I don’t see any of their pitchers really working out. Moustakas looks like a bust to me. Duffy has talent but does not have the passion. They have a great foundation. They just need to add some nice veterans.

  62. setupunchtag 4 years ago

    I’m totally with you, and I hate to say it, but I believe it should be, “anyone WHO would want”, not “that”…In fairness, I don’t think I knew that until middle-school, so that IS above a 5th grade level… Go Royals.

  63. setupunchtag 4 years ago

    I’m a Royals fan, but I totally concur. Avila looks really good and Max is too inconsistent, at this point. And I like Fister, but yes, let’s see if he does it again before he’s talked about like Verlander, Cabrera and V-Mart. I think Porcello could be there, too, with another step forward.

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