Marlins Out Of Running For Albert Pujols

The latest on free agent superstar Albert Pujols

  • Marlins people are saying they withdrew their offer to Pujols, not the other way around, tweets ESPN.com's Jayson Stark. Either way, the end result is the same: the Marlins are out.
  • Bob Nightengale of USA Today confirms (via Twitter) the Marlins are no longer involved, but says Pujols still has three offers in excess of $200MM. It's hard to imagine which teams besides the Cardinals would be offering that much.
  • Well, it looks like the Marlins won't sign every top free agent on the market. ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick hears that Dan Lozano has told the Marlins they're out of the running for Pujols, though there are still clubs involved besides the Cardinals (Twitter links).
  • The Cardinals' offer currently on the table is for nine years, not ten, according to Buster Olney (via Twitter). Meanwhile, the Marlins aren't completely out on Pujols, but won't increase their offer, tweets MLB.com's Joe Frisaro.
  • Pujols appears headed back to the Cardinals and the two sides are believed to be only a few million dollars apart on a ten-year deal, reports Bill Madden of the New York Daily News.
  • The Marlins are moving on emotionally from the Pujols talks, tweets Buster Olney, though they haven't necessarily pulled their offer.
  • Pujols' camp is attempted to extract every possible nickel in an offer from Miami so they can take that to the Cardinals, tweets ESPN's Buster Olney.
  • The Marlins are still in on Pujols, tweets Bob Nightengale of USA Today.  Angels GM Jerry Dipoto told reporters his focus has not been on Pujols.
  • ESPN's Jerry Crasnick hears lots of buzz in Dallas that the Pujols decision is shifting in the Cardinals' direction.
  • Pujols is likely heading back to the Cardinals, tweets Andy Martino of the New York Daily News.  He says the Marlins are shifting their attention to Prince Fielder, while several others say they'll turn to pitching targets.
  • A Cardinals source sees a good chance of a resolution one way or another today on Pujols, tweets Jon Paul Morosi.  Buster Olney says there's a growing sense among some officials involved in the Pujols talks that he's staying with the Cardinals.
  • The Cubs are still involved in the Pujols talks, tweets Ken Rosenthal, though the extent is unclear.
  • The Marlins say they've made their final offer to Pujols, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports, though an additional meeting with agent Dan Lozano remains possible.
  • The Cardinals are meeting with Pujols' camp this morning, tweets MLB Network's Jon Heyman.  Heyman believes the Marlins' ten-year offer is in the $200-220MM range.
  • Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch writes that the Cardinals' newest offer to Pujols is believed to approach $220MM over 10 years. The Cards didn't place a deadline on their offer, and general manager John Mozeliak said this wouldn't necessarily be the club's final offer. Strauss is unsure if all 10 years are guaranteed, or if the tenth year involves some kind of option.

Tim Dierkes and Luke Adams contributed to this post.


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272 Comments on "Marlins Out Of Running For Albert Pujols"


formerdraftpick
3 years 7 months ago

I wonder if the Marlins will counter offer with $220,000,001.00. Worth it for the future Hall of Famer. Or they could sign me for $150,000.

gocrazy
3 years 7 months ago

Oh yeah, I’ll play for $149,999.

rsanchez1
3 years 7 months ago

The Marlins don’t want to get embroiled in another payroll scandal. League minimum or GTFO.

sherrilltradedooverexperience
3 years 7 months ago

i think it’s funny that the marlins could be playing one player more than they spent on their new stadium

The_BiRDS
3 years 7 months ago

Cardinals offer 9 years at 220 with a 10 year mutual option. Thats my guess

Andy_B
3 years 7 months ago

Could be a vesting option for the 10 year like Hollidays where in the 9th year if he finishes in the top 10 in MVP voting it vests.  If pujols is still producing enough to be in the top 10 in MVP voting the cards would be happy to pick up his option, and Pujols has the machismo to believe that he’ll always hit at his current level.

3 years 7 months ago

Really? You think when he is 40 years old he will be in the top 10 MVP voting?

Andy_B
3 years 7 months ago

I doubt it, but I think Pujols believes he will be.

The_BiRDS
3 years 7 months ago

Well if Berkman can finish in the top 5 at age 36 Id say Pujols has a decent chance in the ton 10 at 40

iheartyourfart
3 years 7 months ago

#fanlogic

The_BiRDS
3 years 7 months ago

Back to Back to Back post… “Officials hear Pujols will stay with the Cardinals” – ” Buehrle expect to sign within 24 hours” – “Furcal heading to another team than Brewers”… Cardinals gaining ground here

sam_lammert
3 years 7 months ago

where were these posts?

Vossome93
3 years 7 months ago

Being cheap is no longer an excuse. If he leaves he is either greedy or he just doesn’t want to be in St. Louis or both.

3 years 7 months ago

The Cardinals can survive Pujols leaving as long as their pitching stays healthy. I know he’s probable one of the most popular Cardinals ever. His contract is way out of control though. It’s an insane amount of money that he will be getting either way.

Vossome93
3 years 7 months ago

 Yes. But he was way under payed for the last 11 years. I think it’s worth it to have him a Cardinal for life. But ultimately, if he left we would be ok.

oseebhai
3 years 7 months ago

Worth $220 mil to be a cardinal for life?  Why not let other teams overpay when your team had him when he was underpaid?  Think of how the cardinals could spend $220 mil in the next 10 years!

sherrilltradedooverexperience
3 years 7 months ago

 that’s assuming there’s better ways to spend that money.  how often does such a dominant hitter come along…even his decline years will be better than many solid careers

3 years 7 months ago

He signed a 110 Million $$$$ deal that allowed the Cardinals to put players around him & win. That was a ton of money for a 3rd year player.

chico65
3 years 7 months ago

Yeah, what an indignity to be subjected to.  Only earning over 100MM so far in his career.  Poor fella.

imachainsaw
3 years 7 months ago

when you’re the undisputed best in the sport and not even being paid close to the top salaries, yes that’s kinda an indignity

$3513744
3 years 7 months ago

You’re right, those are the only possible reasons.  It would make no sense that there could possibly any other reason whatsoever.  I’m sure no one else in his position would possibly explore their options.

$3513744
3 years 7 months ago

You’re right, those are the only possible reasons.  It would make no sense that there could possibly any other reason whatsoever.  I’m sure no one else in his position would possibly explore their options.

MB923
3 years 7 months ago

“The Cards didn’t place a deadline on their offer, and general manager
John Mozeliak said this wouldn’t necessarily be the club’s final offer”

If that’s the case, he might just wait even more now. Unless the Marlins come out with another higher offer and decide to include a no trade clause in it.

The_BiRDS
3 years 7 months ago

Yeah why give other teams or the Marlins another chance?

The_BiRDS
3 years 7 months ago

Yeah why give other teams or the Marlins another chance?

3 years 7 months ago

 .300/40/120 is worth $220 Mil? Absolute stupidity.

Rangers4Life
3 years 7 months ago

If he can put up those numbers every season for the next 10 years, then heck yeah he’ll be worth that and much more.

$3513744
3 years 7 months ago

What are you expecting a guy like Pujols to sign for?  Everyone knew that there would be teams drooling over to sign him.  If that’s what it takes to sign the guy, then that’s just the way it is.  Every team in the league would love to have a guy who has a down year with that kind of line.

3 years 7 months ago

Sometimes is not only the numbers, but the name of the player. The Cards big ticket guy is Pujols.

rsanchez1
3 years 7 months ago

The Marlins big guy was going to be Stanton… until the Pujols rumors started up.

Johnny Arroyo
3 years 7 months ago

try .299/37/99.. he is declining for 4 straight years and in this day and age where theres no steroids or hgh..its gonna be a downhill sprint!
ugh!

imachainsaw
3 years 7 months ago

>2011
>using counting stats

please tell me you’re not serious

3 years 7 months ago

Liked but I see no green…

imachainsaw
3 years 7 months ago

watchu mean?

UncleCharles
3 years 7 months ago

That’s it, I think you can slot El Hombre into the cardinals lineup for the next decade.

Linutor
3 years 7 months ago

Ten years for a thirty-something baseball player. Incredible.

Linutor
3 years 7 months ago

Seriously? I mean, seriously?

baseballdude
3 years 7 months ago

I will be really happy if he stays in the NL.

0bsessions
3 years 7 months ago

Never count them out.

SSHitmen
3 years 7 months ago

Logged in just to like this! Mystery Team!

The_BiRDS
3 years 7 months ago

Mark Tex just okayed to play OF next year.. Mystery team is now the Yankees

3 years 7 months ago

The Marlins would be better off with Pujols choosing St. Louis and they “get stuck with” Prince Fielder.

Jdobb
3 years 7 months ago

If I am doing my math right that will out Cardinals payroll at $102 million and they have came out and said $110 million is there 2012 budget. So does that mean $4 million a year for the next 2 years? JC Romero and there set for 12 World series in 2012!! 

tfsmag
3 years 7 months ago

wow… about 1/6 of the teams payroll for 10 years. Amazing, management might have to bump up payroll if they want to stay competitive past the next couple of seasons.

Jeff Jones
3 years 7 months ago

Its getting crazy–unless it is a graduated contract (more money up front) a team will be paying him over $20 million when he is 42.

chemteck29
3 years 7 months ago

That right there underscores just how ridiculous his contract offers have become!

3 years 7 months ago

At this point, I’m thinking let St. Louis keep Albert and the Fish can go get some pitching.

rsanchez1
3 years 7 months ago

Or the Fish can get Fielder. Lower risk than Pujols anyway.

roebirds
3 years 7 months ago

You must have never seen what Prince Fielder actually looks like. Similarly-sized players usually drop off a cliff in their mid-thirties.

Tko11
3 years 7 months ago

That is such a lame argument…David Ortiz is fine in his mid thirties, Babe Ruth was fat, Miguel Cabrera is fat, Sabathia is fat, Heath Bell is fat. Whats your point? Even if your argument holds up, Fielder is 27. Mid-thirties begin at 33-34? If he gives them 6 or 7 years like the previous 6 with the Brewers thats a damn good deal. Prince Fielder at 8 years or so is a far lower risk than Pujols and his 10 year deal. 

tfsmag
3 years 7 months ago

I wish he would just decide. I get the feeling that this deal is holding up a lot of other deals right now.

rsanchez1
3 years 7 months ago

I wish he would host a 30-minute ESPN special where he announces his decision.

ZZZZZIPPP
3 years 7 months ago

YOU THINK HE DOESN’T DESERVE AN HOUR LONG SPECIAL?

JackPackage
3 years 7 months ago

Not worth it at all. Declining for the last 3 years and figures to continue to decline (Granted, he is still better than most even when declining but to be paying a premium for his decline years is stupid) what was he worth last season? 5 WAR? Let the Marlins sign him, then trade for Gaby Sanchez on the cheap ha-ha. People are balking at 4 years for Rollins, 10 years for Pujols… yikes.

Seriously now though, if the Marlins DO sign Pujols. What are the chances Miami HAVE to get rid of Sanchez/Ramirez? I can somewhat understand St. Louis going all out to retain Albert but I really don’t understand why any other team would give him 200+/10.

rsanchez1
3 years 7 months ago

The Marlins will trade Gaby Sanchez if they get Pujols. It’s better for them to trade Gaby sooner rather than later so they can get more value for him. Hanley, I don’t think they’ll get rid of, but he will cry and scream.

NYYANKEES
3 years 7 months ago

5 year $90+ million offer coming to Mr. Wilson courtesy of the Miami Marlins.

NYYANKEES
3 years 7 months ago

5 year $90+ million offer coming to Mr. Wilson courtesy of the Miami Marlins.

rsanchez1
3 years 7 months ago

Cubs are only in there to jack up the price for the Marlins. Cubs still can’t get over Bartman.

tfsmag
3 years 7 months ago

Actually the cubs are in there to jack up the price for the cardinals… they could really give a crap about a team that isn’t even in their division. Way to sneak in a Bartman reference though troll.

rsanchez1
3 years 7 months ago

Typical Cubs fan, always bitter that Alou lost the WS.

Either way, looks like the Cubs are trolling one team, either the Marlins or Cardinals, but a Cubs fan won’t worry about that.

Jeff Jones
3 years 7 months ago

Actually I rememeber that game what lsit that game was not Alou (even wothout Bartman that would have been a difficult catch) but the SS making a late game error and the mgr leaving the starter in too long

tfsmag
3 years 7 months ago

Jeff is correct, it was Gonzalez booting a tailor made double play that really put the nail in the coffin on that inning. 

jhfdssdaf
3 years 7 months ago

Had Prior thrown a strike on the next pitch, there would have been two outs, making the play easier.

tfsmag
3 years 7 months ago

Jeff is correct, it was Gonzalez booting a tailor made double play that really put the nail in the coffin on that inning. 

tfsmag
3 years 7 months ago

So was it a Alou or Bartman? If you’re going to troll cubs fans at least be consistent. And again, I think if you actually believe that the cubs trying to drive up the price for the Marlins, you might want to read up on how the different divisions in baseball are set up. The cubs are much more concerned about teams within their division getting Albert than  a team with no fans and fruity uniforms that aren’t even in their division.

The_BiRDS
3 years 7 months ago

Unless the cubs offer 10 years at 300 they wont be jacking up anyones price.. this is theo saying “Hey Chicago im here”

Tyler
3 years 7 months ago

Thats all Theo was trying to do. 

tfsmag
3 years 7 months ago

The more teams that get in on the bidding (we don’t know what the cubs offer was) the more pressure it puts on the teams that have already put their bid out there. Obviously the cubs wouldn’t have even bothered to make an offer unless there was something about it that trumped the original offer from the cardinals. I’m pretty sure the cubs never legitimately thought about giving Albert what it would take to get him to come to Chicago. I’m also sure that the Cardinals only know as much as we know as to what other teams are rumored to have offered. Doesn’t make much sense for Albert or his agent to share those numbers between teams.

jhfdssdaf
3 years 7 months ago

Actually, it does make sense, if he has a decided preference (and everything he’s said indicates that he does).  If the Cardinals offer is less than the Marlins, he brings the Marlins offer in, and says “match it, or I leave”.

tfsmag
3 years 7 months ago

If that’s the case then the cubs offer must be substantial to be rumored to still be in the bidding.

The_BiRDS
3 years 7 months ago

Cubs at the moment dont have a offer for Albert

tfsmag
3 years 7 months ago

Source? Rumors were flying around yesterday that a qualifying offer was made…

The_BiRDS
3 years 7 months ago

Rumors.. They stated that the Cards and Marlins HAVE offers and the the Cubs remain interested 

jb226
3 years 7 months ago

This is the best you can do?  It doesn’t even mean anything.  I expect more from my trolls.

rsanchez1
3 years 7 months ago

Funny how Cubs fans are always expecting more. Maybe next year, buddy.

jb226
3 years 7 months ago

Funny, but not really a troll.  Keep practicing, you’ll get the hang of it.

Tyler
3 years 7 months ago

Well if you dont expect more every year you end up like the Yankees thinking the MLB owes you a W/S. haha

rsanchez1
3 years 7 months ago

Cubs are only in there to jack up the price for the Marlins. Cubs still can’t get over Bartman.