Albert Pujols Signing Reactions

Albert Pujols and the Angels agreed to a $254MM deal today that will keep the longtime Cardinal under contract until he's 41. As you can imagine, the signing has inspired some reactions across the league. Here are a few takes and additional details on the second-largest contract in baseball history:

Tim Dierkes' take: In hindsight, it was odd to be talking about offers in the $200MM range on the open market for Pujols, who still may be the best hitter in baseball.  It seems that ultimately the Cardinals were way behind in their offer, as both the Marlins and Angels offered over $40MM more.  Before the 2011 season, a contract for Pujols topping Alex Rodriguez's $275MM seemed possible in free agency, but a rough start to the season and the lowest walk rate of Pujols' career might have given a few teams pause.  Plus, the Yankees and Red Sox weren't involved.  

Almost all long-term contracts end badly.  Angels owner Arte Moreno knows that, and he's going for broke for the next three to four years.  I generally appreciate an owner who is willing to do that.  We see teams overpay for dozens of free agents every winter; Angels fans should be glad their owner did it for the best free agent in years.

I can't speak for Cardinals fans, but I don't see cause to be angry toward Pujols or the team.  The Cardinals made the best offer they could reasonably afford, and it was nowhere near the others.  They still have a strong team and the glow of two recent World Series wins.  As for Albert, if I was him I wouldn't have agreed to a contract that made me the fourth-best-paid first baseman in the game.

Additonal Pujols reactions:

  • The signing makes the Angels much better in the short term, but it's "almost unthinkable that this contract will look like a good one in 2021 when we look back on it after its conclusion," writes ESPN.com's Keith Law (Insider required).
  • Dave Cameron of Fangraphs agrees with Law, saying the Angels will need a lot of breaks in order for the deal to work out long-term.
  • The Angels were the "unlikely beneficiary of the Cardinals' inactivity," says Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.
  • Cardinals fans have the right to feel bitter, but comparing Pujols to LeBron James is misguided, since Pujols and the Cards won two championships, writes Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports.
  • "I would like our fans to know that we tried our best to make Albert a lifetime Cardinal but unfortunately we were unable to make it happen," Cardinals owner Bill DeWitt Jr. said as part of a statement, thanking Albert for his achievements and community contributions.
  • Two other FOX Sports scribes provided their takes on the deal as well.
  • At today's press conference, Angels GM Jerry Dipoto praised the athleticism of Mark Trumbo, now the Angels' former first baseman. Dipoto mentioned third base, designated hitter, and the outfield as possibilities for Trumbo, tweets Danny Knobler of CBS Sports.
  • Appearing on MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM, Dipoto said the Angels didn't get heavily involved with Pujols until the last 24 hours before they reached an agreement.
  • Jayson Stark of ESPN.com spoke to a few National League GMs who are happy to see Pujols switching leagues. "I'll miss seeing him," said Reds GM Walt Jocketty. "But I won't miss facing him."
  • Typically big spenders, the Yankees and Red Sox weren't in on the Pujols bidding. Yanks GM Brian Cashman "gave it a nice, respectful no" when Pujols' camp approached him, according to MLB.com's Bryan Hoch. Sox GM Ben Cherington said it would have taken "huge, fundamental changes" to the team's roster and payroll to sign Pujols, tweets Brian MacPherson of the Providence Journal.
  • As we discussed earlier, the Angels' offer wasn't the largest one Pujols received — the Marlins' ten-year proposal topped it.


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307 Comments on "Albert Pujols Signing Reactions"


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$3513744
3 years 6 months ago

first!

I like the sentiments about not comparing this to Lebron, nor being angry at the Cards or Pujols. Just with him the best and hope to see him mash the ball in the AL now.

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WasianCU
3 years 6 months ago

Even if you were first on the actual signing, no one would care.

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$3513744
3 years 6 months ago

So?

Guest
3 years 6 months ago

So there is no need to post it. It just makes you look immature.

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$3513744
3 years 6 months ago

Apparently no one cares, neither do I, so what’s the big deal again?

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$3513744
3 years 6 months ago

Apparently no one cares, neither do I, so what’s the big deal again?

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EdinsonPickle
3 years 6 months ago

Stupid!

Best of luck to the Angels and their new Free Agent prizes, but the Rangers are still the kings of the AL West.

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$3513744
3 years 6 months ago

Until they beat the Rangers, I don’t disagree.  Though parts of me still wish the Marlins got him so the M’s didn’t have to face him. At least it should be fun to watch.

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Matt Mintz-Plasse
3 years 6 months ago

Hey now, Even though the rangers have been better for the past few years, We still are the last AL West Team to win the series and we were still winning the division back in 2009.  That isn’t very long ago.

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$3513744
3 years 6 months ago

Of course it’s not that long, which is why it’s very competitive between the two.  But the fact of the matter is that they’re at the top of the AL West until they’re beat. That can’t happen until at least next year.

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Madman2TX
3 years 6 months ago

Tell it to the Astros who went to the World Series and then self-immolated themselves. You’re only as good as your last season.

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parkdav
3 years 6 months ago

Dont worry. The M’s won’t be competitive before his contract is up.

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$3513744
3 years 6 months ago

Ha!  We’ll be lucky even then.

Guest
3 years 6 months ago

Kings?  Please!
Angels have OWNED the West this last decade, sans the last two years.  You guys had the ball those years, went to the WS twice and “dropped the ball” BOTH times.  Until the Rangers win it all, you’re nothing but an itch on a Halo azz..

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Chase
3 years 6 months ago

Rice, nice pic bro haha but You can’t say the “Halos” have dominated in the last decade. Until they beat the Rangers and get to the ws they’re still second place.

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Madman2TX
3 years 6 months ago

Still whipped your butts the last 2 seasons with your own players like Vlad and Napoli. In spite of losing those 2 World Series, at least we weren’t sitting at home whining about all the players we didn’t sign and all the bad contracts we took on. GO RANGERS!!!

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Salmon4Coach
3 years 6 months ago

For the first time Rangers go to the PLAYOFFS and the WS twice in a ROW and lose to Giants 1st then CHOKE to Cards..Sorry but time is up..You guys had your chance’s and our time is finally coming..GO ANGELS!!!!!!

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gizmo7229
3 years 6 months ago

I wish the Angels luck.  I do like the team, however, this contract is not the best for them.  Don’t bank on Pujols to pull you to the Series.  He didn’t do much this first half and was mediocre the second half.  Downhill slide.  I do like the Angels, but I don’t think he is the Almighty one to  do for you.  Buerhle will be a good addition.

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Madman2TX
3 years 6 months ago

Owned? You guys have been Pwned.

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diesel2410
3 years 6 months ago

Wanna cookie?

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JacksTigers
3 years 6 months ago

Tell me though, does this picture not look weird? Maybe by June we will start getting used to the look. But I just can’t get passed what he looks like at the moment.

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$3513744
3 years 6 months ago

Yeah it’ll take time to get used to it.  But I think it’ll be a rude awakening when he mashes the first bomb against our pitchers :)

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The_BiRDS
3 years 6 months ago

At least he is still in red.. man Cubs jersey really would have stung

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$3513744
3 years 6 months ago

Oh man, that would’ve been something.

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3 years 6 months ago

Still better than that god awful Marlins Jersey. The Marlins backed away because Pujols refused to sign without a no trade clause. Marlins are going to have another fires sale once this run ends one or two seasons from now… Standard Marlin M.O.

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Bobbie Watson
3 years 6 months ago

I say a good whack to the leg before he gets on the plane..Freaking traitor..

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$3513744
3 years 6 months ago

I’m sure you were there to rally for him to get what he deserved.  

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jwsox
3 years 6 months ago

why is he a traitor? The cards had more than enough time to lock him up and they couldnt. He didnt even take the biggest deal. He took one that was more money than the cards. He WAS A FREE AGENT! Yes he didnt take a home town discount but he didnt have to. He won two world series and 3 MVP’s while on the cards and they didnt extend him. he is not a traitor at all get over it. Its actually a good thing that the cards wont be paying him 25+ mill when he is 41 years old and cant play anymore. 

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Bobbie Watson
3 years 6 months ago

When is it enough money. When do you think about Legacy and living a honorable life then selling yourself to the highest bidder. I call him a traitor because he walk..The Cards made the best deal they could make without hurting the rest of the team. He could have been the next Musial but now hes just the next ARod. When he hits the Hall Of Fame it will be as an Angel and it kind of breaks my heart..I think all the fans feel like we were made into the ditchable prom date. I think we are allowed to go through the stages of grieving. Im in anger right now..LOL

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bjsguess
3 years 6 months ago

You missed the part about how he DIDN’T sell out to the highest bidder. That would have been the Marlins chief.

Is it Pujols’ fault that the team wasn’t willing to take on serious risk? It’s not like the Angels are the Yankees or anything. If they don’t win big with Albert this deal will kill them. The difference between the clubs is that the Angels are betting that Albert will continue to be the dominant player in MLB while the Cards basically said that Pujols was worth less than Teixeira a few years ago (at least in AAV).

The Cards may have made the smart move. If the Angels win with Pujols then both the Angels and Pujols will have made smart moves. Point is there doesn’t need to be a loser in every transaction. No need call people traitors or say they are without honor just because things didn’t turn out the way you wanted them to. You just comes across as a whiny fanboy.

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Bobbie Watson
3 years 6 months ago

If he went with the Marlins no DH..He isnt going to be fielding the next 10 years..He would have been traded to a second rate team. The Cards would have kept him. Hey I am allowed to be a bit pissed..If given the same situation with you you would be too..

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cards16
3 years 6 months ago

Two things that your post misses about why Cards fans are actually enraged by this decision.

First, the likely reason he didn’t sign in Miami was the lack of No-Trade clause. If Miami had offered that as part of their deal to Pujols, he most likely would be going to Miami.

Second, it’s not just that he’s leaving to take more money. It’s that he is leaving to take more money after this statement in 2009:

“…People from other teams want to play in St. Louis and they’re jealous that we’re in St. Louis because the fans are unbelievable. So why would you want to leave a place like St. Louis to go somewhere else and make $3 or $4 more million a year? It’s not about the money. I already got my money. It’s about winning and that’s it.”

In the end, what Cardinals fans are mad about is that he straight up lied to the fanbase. Personally after this, I’ll be glad to see him gone, as long as the management uses that money towards something more productive than lining their pocket book.

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3 years 6 months ago

Maybe you missed the part where he said , “It’s about winning and that’s it.” Directly after saying, “It’s not about the money. I already got my money.”

Therefore, he’s saying that he can win with the Angels (and I think he’s right…Cards are pretty much done.) And that he’s getting more money to play for a team he believes will win.

That’s not being a traitor, that’s him wanting to win AND get more money. He can have both.

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gizmo7229
3 years 6 months ago

Oh you are in for an awakening.  STL saw him at his BEST the last ten years.  he has no where to go but down.  He may get lucky a few times, but you aren’t going to win with him.  You win with a TEAM.  He made his share of hitting into double plays and screwed up in the Series a few times and his SUPER EGO wouldn’t take responsibility and talk with reporters and admit it–he ran from them.  He has changed in the last two years and not for the better.  Good Luck to you, I really think the Angels need it.  And by the way, The CARDs aren’t done.  Did you hear that we have 11 World Series….second to the Yankees.   How many do the Angels have?????? HMMMMMM wishful thinking. Dream on 

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gizmo7229
3 years 6 months ago

OH YOU ARE SO RIGHT—I couldn’t have said it better.  We saw him at his BEST—I heard his interview—when he said he wanted to stay in STL and retire here, with a statute next to Stan Musial and Ozzie Smith.  LIAR.  I felt that punch in the stomach today and that was the reality check that IT”S ONLY ABOUT THE MONEY.  I wish the Angels all the best,  I’m glad he is in the AL and not with the Cubs because that would have rubbed it even more.

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Zuidvogels
3 years 6 months ago

This was probably before they dumped a bunch of money in Holliday’s lap and made him an offer to be the 4th highest paid 1B in the league. The Cards had all the time in the world to get this done. And they didn’t. And now they are pouring the koolaid down the throats of all the fans saying “we tried our best” and we will re-allocate the money elsewhere. If they tried their best he would have never hit free agency because they would have made him a better offer then being the 4th highest paid 1B in the entire league. As for re-allocating the money, every fan base has heard this before. I wouldn’t hold your breaths. let see if they put their money where their mouth’s are this time.

In the end, it was probably in the best interest of the team as a whole to not re-sign him. But they had to atleast seem to make an effort of the fan base would have really flipped. IF the Cardinals take this money and bring in other quality players over the next couple seasons, it was a smart move. If they hang on to it all, this was just a publicity scam.

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gizmo7229
3 years 6 months ago

NO TRADE CLause—–that’s why Pujols didn’t go for the highest bidder.  He knows he isn’t as good as he was.  StL saw him at his BEST—-It’s only downhill from this point on.

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Fred_G_Sanford
3 years 6 months ago

oh poor baby…too bad your team hasnt won a world series in almost two months.

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Fred_G_Sanford
3 years 6 months ago

oh poor baby…too bad your team hasnt won a world series in almost two months.

Guest
3 years 6 months ago

He didn’t go to the highest bidder, Miami offered him $275MM, maybe he left St. Louis to get away from fans who want to try to break his leg and call him names after all the great things he did for the Cards. 

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gizmo7229
3 years 6 months ago

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL  The fans have been deceived- both STL and now the Angel fans. 

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sherrilltradedooverexperience
3 years 6 months ago

 “When is it enough money.”

I think this when I’m looking at the prices at the concession stands

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gizmo7229
3 years 6 months ago

He did not win two world series, he was part of a team that won two ws.  He didn’t take the biggest deal, because the Marlins wouldn’t give him a NO Trade agreement.  The Marlins are good for trading.  He’s a traitor because he lied to the Cardinals fans telling them that he wanted to stay with the Cardinals, retire and have a statute next to Stan Musial and Ozzie Smith.  He said it wasn’t about the money—LIED just like he has lied about his age.  If you think he’s only 32, guess again.  The Angels are in for a big surprise.  His numbers have been falling the past three seasons.  Except for the one game in this year WS that he hit 3 home runs, he wasn’t that exceptional in the playoffs or WS.  I like the Angels, I believe they made a mistake, giving him this amount..only time will tell, but I will say, St Louis saw Pujols at his best, he has no where to go but down.  He negotiated a ten year contract and we will be mediocre for those ten years.  Yes, I am a Cardinal fan and have been for many years.  I’ve have the opportunity to see them in the 1964, 1967, 1968, 82,85,87, 2006 and this year’s World Series.  The Cards will be fine—they still have a good team.  It stings the Cards fans because they have been DECEIVED by him.   

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gizmo7229
3 years 6 months ago

Yeah that 41 years will be in about 6 years.  He is older that 31.  He is a liar.  He was interviewed and quoted as saying he wanted to stay in STL, retire and have a statute next to Stan Musial and Ozzie Smith.  Fans bought into it, believed him and now realized they were deceived by him.  He sold out along with his lowlife agent.  That is another story.

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gizmo7229
3 years 6 months ago

He will get what is due him because of his lies to the fans.  Matter of time.

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Zuidvogels
3 years 6 months ago

Way to be the bitter ex girlfriend…

Is it so hard to take the high road and thank him for what he did, and wish him well? I mean St. Louis got all his best years, and the Angles are picking up the tab for it.

Would you be upset if you got to bang the prom queen all night, then watch her got to dinner with some other schmuck who’s picking up the bill?

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renegadeisback
3 years 6 months ago

It’s pretty amazing that the Angels didn’t get involved until Tuesday night.

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E Scalez
3 years 6 months ago

On the field, the contract is on a bad side of risk/reward toward the end of the contract, though many fail to see the overall business perspective of the move as a calculated risk that should pay great dividends.  The added boost of leverage that Pujols gives in the Angels in TV rights negotiations could very well pay for the contract itself.  The huge latin market and a competitive team should fill seats, the potential for Pujols chasing milestones even in the twilight of the contract are all additional big time revenue scenarios as well. 

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melkor77
3 years 6 months ago

Are they banking on the whole Dec. 12, 2012 thing to sort this out for them?

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SheaGoodbye
3 years 6 months ago

I was thinking the same thing lol

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wickedkevin
3 years 6 months ago

Albert Pujols on the Angels literally makes zero sense.  It was such a show move for people to oh and ah at.  Morales and Trumbo are both good 1b options.  Morales healthy, is great.  Now they have an awful contract for ten years with two first basemen they are now forced to trade.

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Jeff
3 years 6 months ago

You think there’s any chance Morales could play OF again?

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$3513744
3 years 6 months ago

Not a chance. Not only is he brittle, but there’s better outfield options.

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Jeff
3 years 6 months ago

Is the Brittle coming from just the ankle injury, or was he brittle before.  Also, could he potentially play 3B?

Asking because I thought he’d be a good pickup for the Braves if he’s cheap enough.  They need a bat of his calibre, but 1B is blocked (though his bat may be better then Freeman’s)

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$3513744
3 years 6 months ago

Yes brittle from the injury.  We know that it was bad enough to keep him out this long, so there’s no telling where he’s at.  He would make more sense as a DH for them.  Like I said, there’s just better options for the outfield.

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VegasANGELSFan
3 years 6 months ago

Morales is still relatively unhealthy and a huge question mark.  Plus, he is a free agent after this year.  Trumbo is promising, but they can play him at DH next year (and even more after Abreu is gone), or possibly give him some at bats in the OF or *maybe* third.  The contract will be probably be bad by its end, but to say it makes zero sense is just incorrect in my opinion.  You pay a ton of money for a long time, but you get arguably the best player in baseball which makes your team better, their upcoming tv deal more lucrative, and helps them be THE team in SoCal. Oh, and not that I am a proponent of the band wagon, but there are lots of new Angels fans after this morning because of Pujols.  

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WasianCU
3 years 6 months ago

Morales is a huge question mark but if he does come back healthy then he could be looked at for DH or outfield (he did play outfield before).  Pujols did come up as OF, 3b and 1b, of course it would be hard to imagine them moving him and his gold gloves away from 1b. 

DiPoto said he was looking at 3b and of for Trumbo too and wasn’t looking to trade him or Morales for now.  There are still plenty of options to look at.  I think the best solution is trading Abreu away to a team (eating 5-6 million of his contract) to open up the DH spot and save a little payroll.

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shysox
3 years 6 months ago

False; Trumbo can move to third or the outfield, Kendry can move to the outfield or DH.

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wickedkevin
3 years 6 months ago

Where will Abreu play?

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thebigbangdito
3 years 6 months ago

left bench

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Stuart Brown
3 years 6 months ago

Rotated as a DH and occasionally a pinch-runner or something. He’s still a valuable asset, the Angels just don’t have much of a place for him.

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OCAngels
3 years 6 months ago

Correct me if I;m wrong Kendrys is only under team control one more year.

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jb226
3 years 6 months ago

I’m not defending the signing per se; I think it will get messy in those later years.  But it’s an obvious improvement for the next couple of years even assuming a healthy Morales, and imagine the kind of trade returns you could get for either or both of those two.  Get the Cubs on the phone, they will probably be interested.

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The_BiRDS
3 years 6 months ago

OK OK OK.. Maybe go get Rollins and Fielder .. line up looks better this way than with Pujols in it.

Rollins
Craig
Fielder
Holliday
Berkman
Freese
Molina
Skip
Pitcher

It will at least stop the bleeding

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jwsox
3 years 6 months ago

i actually like fielder for the cards. he gives them a great lefty bat and is young than albert
 

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The_BiRDS
3 years 6 months ago

yeah.. maybe even make a trade for Hanley instead of signing Rollins

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brstreet9
3 years 6 months ago

Um…is this assuming Skip is in CF, and Craig is at 2B?

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Matt Talken
3 years 6 months ago

They’d make awfully nice trade pieces though.  After all, Miami was in on Pujols and Gaby Sanchez is a nice 1B too, but they’d have been happy to take Pujols and trade Sanchez for pitching.