Yankees Haven’t Made Offer To Hiroki Kuroda

9:59am: While no offer has been made, the Yankees indeed "like Kuroda very much," according to Jon Heyman of MLB Network (Twitter link). 

8:55am: The Yankees haven't made Kuroda an offer, tweets MLB.com's Bryan Hoch.

8:13am: The Yankees have offered Hiroki Kuroda a one-year contract worth approximately $12MM in U.S. dollars, reports Japanese news outlet Sponichi (passed on by Mike Axisa of River Ave Blues).  The Yankees were one of several teams known to have an interest in Kuroda and as Axisa points out, the presence of Kuroda's old battery-mate Russell Martin could be a factor that only the Yankees could offer the right-hander.

If signed, Kuroda would join a rotation that features C.C. Sabathia and four relative question marks in Phil Hughes, Ivan Nova, Freddy Garcia and A.J. Burnett.  On paper, Kuroda would be the No. 2 starter, though it remains to be seen how the 36-year-old would fare pitching in the AL East as opposed to pitcher-friendly Dodger Stadium.


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98 Comments on "Yankees Haven’t Made Offer To Hiroki Kuroda"


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Liam_Ho
3 years 6 months ago

How is Ivan Nova a question mark? Sure hes not the obvious number 2 but a lot more dependable going into the season then everybody else.

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jjs91
3 years 6 months ago

 strikeout rate, it’s not a big deal though i also think he had a higher k rate after he used the slider

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notsureifsrs
3 years 6 months ago

from 5.0 per 9 to 5.7 per 9

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jjs91
3 years 6 months ago

 From a 4.98,  4.18, 5.79, 6.75, to a 6.55, and a 4.54 the last month may cast doubts on the change but that’s still something to be encouraged about.  

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notsureifsrs
3 years 6 months ago

maybe, but it’s not usually a good idea to pick and choose like that. the 6.75 comes from 12 innings and essentially 1 game against baltimore

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jjs91
3 years 6 months ago

True it is a tiny sample and in that regard he should be viewed as a question mark but he still has shown some ability it’s like hes a scrub like he is often portrayed. 

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3 years 6 months ago

I guess they see what happen to Hughes after winning 18 games. There is not sure thing in the rotation besides CC if you think about it.

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Liam_Ho
3 years 6 months ago

I totally agree that if he were playing on a team besides the Yankees (or some other high powered offense) he would be average at best.
But because of all that run support he’s good enough.

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jjs91
3 years 6 months ago

 His offense affects, his era,fip, xfip? 

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Liam_Ho
3 years 6 months ago

His sabermetric numbers were not that great.

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jjs91
3 years 6 months ago

than neither were kuroda’s. A .03 difference in fip and era is not a big difference at all. Especially since his fip and xfip probably improved once he used his slider.

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notsureifsrs
3 years 6 months ago

adjusted for league and park factors, nova’s FIP was actually 5% better than kuroda’s (96 to 101)

his ERA (87 to 83) and SIERA (4.28 to 3.66) were worse, but i think it’s largely the lack of a track record or strong scouting reputation that makes people question him and not kuroda

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commenter3346
3 years 6 months ago

His FIP (4.01) & xFIP (4.16) weren’t great in the first place.

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jjs91
3 years 6 months ago

For a rookie it’s pretty good, besides it’s not like kuroda’s 3.78, fip is that great in the nl west. Also out of curiosity are you worried about clay whose saber stats were considerably worse?

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Liam_Ho
3 years 6 months ago

You need clarify who you’re referring to as Clay?

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MB923
3 years 6 months ago

Aiken, duh!

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Lunchbox45
3 years 6 months ago

buchholz prob

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jjs91
3 years 6 months ago

Buchholz 

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Liam_Ho
3 years 6 months ago

He’s always been a pretty high% flyball pitcher. Which is why fangraphs rates his numbers so high. Its just that those balls have never really gone out.

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jjs91
3 years 6 months ago

I’m not sure what you’re even saying is clay’s saber stats not a big deal for because you say those balls dont go out? Besides they go out 10% of the time thats a lot.

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Liam_Ho
3 years 6 months ago

I’m looking at his 2010 season because it was his best one, while he only had 14 starts in 2011.

His HR% was 5.6% which is very low. I’m not saying they don’t matter but that he was luckier than normal according to fangraphs.

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3 years 6 months ago

that’s what they said about AJ

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YanksFanSince78
3 years 6 months ago

The offense has no bearing on his pitching. You can win a lot of games with a horrible ERA/FIP because of the runs scored but it’s not going to make the pitchers numbers (other wins) look any better.

That being said, I’m one of the fans that thinks we need to take it easy with our expectations with Nova. I definetly think he CAN turn into a solid #2 or #3 but I’m not ready to say he’s going to be that in 2012. 

What I do like about the kid is that he has a great arm, induces a ton of GB’s and from June on lowered his walks, raised his K’s, continued to induce GB’s and went further thru games. I think he definitely got better as the season went on.

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notsureifsrs
3 years 6 months ago

walk-rate went from 3.7 per 9 to 2.5, k-rate from 5.0 to 5.7, but gb/fb went from 1.33 to 1.02

i definitely agree it’s important not to ask him to be a front-end starter. i don’t think he should be trying to strike guys out, but limiting walks and drawing bad contact. as we saw in 2011, if he can keep his team in games, he can have plenty of success

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jjs91
3 years 6 months ago

So they’re worried he’ll get hurt like hughes did?

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3 years 6 months ago

Yeah, I don’t get the question-mark-narrative with Yankee pitching, either. Would we be calling Ivan Nova a question mark if he were a Minnesota Twin? The idea that his BABIP and K/9 suggest some reversion-to-mean in 2012 does *not* qualify him as a question mark. AJ Burnett is a question mark; that’s why they’re trying to unload him by eating some of his salary. Ivan Nova and Phil Hughes are *not* question marks. They will be in the rotation. That sentence does not end with a question mark; it ends with a period.

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jjs91
3 years 6 months ago

Right i mean let’s take doug fister, for instance sure he can regress back to what he was doing before ins eattle but no one even wants to say that. Instead fister is being portrayed as two different pitchers. The one in seattle and the one in det as if their is any difference. Certainly any pitcher can regress and have a bad sophomore season or what not it’s just said a lot more when you’re in ny or any large media market.

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slider32
3 years 6 months ago

Hughes and Nova were on the Verducci list, maybe that’s what they are referring too.

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YanksFanSince78
3 years 6 months ago

Nova is a question mark in that he’s a 2nd year player. Hughes is a question mark because he was injured last year and hasn’t exactly been as good as he was in the 1st half of 2010. That’s not to say that either of them shouldn’t be locked in as starters next year though. I think both have enough potential and are young enough that we should try and continue to develop the.

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captainjeter
3 years 6 months ago

you kidding me Cashman? Picking from the garbage pile again? Nova is not a  question mark , he proved himself. It is Burnett that is the huge   question mark. I have more confedience in Hughes  being the 2010 Hughes, than Burnett   being  anything but a  major disappointment and sick headache.

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0bsessions
3 years 6 months ago

Smart move considering the commitments they’ve already got. The guy’s been remarkably consistent throughout his career.

I’d like for the Sox to get in on him and I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Rangers make a move here either.

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jjs91
3 years 6 months ago

I wouldnt mind a one year deal for kuroda but nothing more. I wouldnt mind going it to the season with the rotation how it is. Though i can see the rangers getting desperate and out bidding them for him.

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NYBravosFan10
3 years 6 months ago

AJ Burnett isn’t a question mark as to whether or not he’s rotation worthy, it’s a question mark as to whether or not he’s anything above the 4 or 5 spot.

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MG83
3 years 6 months ago

Good 1 year hold over until Betances and Banuelos are ready for the Bronx.