Prince Fielder Rumors: Saturday

Yesterday it was reported that the Cubs aren't out on Prince Fielder, despite acquiring Anthony Rizzo. Fielder met with the Rangers, who, along with the Nationals and Cubs, could offer a six-year contract with an average annual value in the $22-24MM range. Fielder and Yu Darvish may not be mutually exclusive for Texas, but they may need to choose whether to invest in Fielder or Josh Hamilton long-term. Here are today's rumors:

  • Talks between the Nationals and Fielder are back on according to Pete Kerzel of MASNSports.com, and Washington is "again making a strong pitch" to sign him.
  • Signing Fielder is "just not going to happen" for the Cubs, manager Dale Svuem told reporters, including Chris De Luca and Godron Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times (Twitter link).
  • Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel tweets that the Rangers were impressed with how trim and fit Fielder looked in their meeting yesterday.
  • Nolan Ryan says the Rangers' meeting with Fielder yesterday was just to see where he was at in the free agent process, tweets Anthony Andro of FOX Sports Southwest. Jeff Wilson of the Fort Worth Star Telegram also tweets that the talks were preliminary.


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  1. Cubs ain’t bringing him home

  2. PhishTank 3 years ago

    As much of a homer as I am and as sentimental as I can be about players I like, if it comes down to the Rangers needing to pick between Fielder or Hamilton for the next six years – welcome to Arlington, Mr. Fielder. You’re going to enjoy that jet stream.

    • Rangersfan32 3 years ago

      Moreland may end up being Hamiltons replacement. He’s already got the power to do so, and he’s always been a solid contact hitter, so it’s very possible.

  3. NYBravosFan10 3 years ago

    Am I the only one who thinks that this Fielder thing is getting a bit ridiculous? We are getting unbelievably close to Spring Training and he doesn’t know if he’s going to Florida or Arizona yet.

    • Guest 3 years ago

      absolutely right on…….and what makes it more funny is that boras is losing teams by the day to do the leverage thing with…..also it’s worth mentioning that he has other clients that aren’t signed either….im sure he will get a nice christmas card from ejax……….

      • vonhayesdays 3 years ago

        borass , has alienated entire teams , who just basically refuse to deal with his crap , im sure madson loves his one year deal , an ejax  well he should get ready for less than half of what borass had predicted,  hopefully more players will cop and drop that shylock 

        • Guest 3 years ago

          right on, plus there are other guys that aren’t boras clients that are waiting for fielder to sign so they can figure out where they stand with certain teams………all this is doing is pi##### people off and making it so fielder loses money by the day……..

        • harmony55 3 years ago

          How do you know what deal Scott Boras “predicted” in his confidential communications with his client?

          Boras no doubt started the bidding high while teams starting the bidding low … Boras needs only find one team to meet somewhere in the middle.

          The most effective agent in the business will remain in demand.

        • harmony55 3 years ago

          How do you know what deal Scott Boras “predicted” in his confidential communications with his client?

          Boras no doubt started the bidding high while teams starting the bidding low … Boras needs only find one team to meet somewhere in the middle.

          The most effective agent in the business will remain in demand.

    • Not only ridiculous…but theater of the absurd. I have never seen a big-ticket free agent remain on the market this long; I thought that this would have gotten done by the winter meetings or just after that at the latest.

      Boras may well have screwed the pooch here with respect to both Fielder and Edwin Jackson.

      • James Attwood 3 years ago

        It’s not just Boras that is making a mess of things in regards to Fielder though. Once Pujols signed, and CJ went to the Angels, the pressure was put on TEX to keep up. From that point on, there was almost ZERO chance that Fielder would agree to a contract before Darvish signed. Even if a team were to step forward now and offer 10/200, I would be surprised if it was accepted before Darvish was made a Ranger and the Rangers were then given a chance to couter-offer. Realistically, he really only has two or three places to go and one of those is in the NL where he won’t be able to pad his worth as a DH.

        At this point the SMART move for Fielder is to do nothing.

        • so what your saying is, he only wants to play for the rangers? because that is what it sounds by saying he is waiting on darvish. alittle fyi a pitchers contract has no effect on fielders contract what so ever. if the nationals were to offer a 10 year 200 million dollar no trade clause contract right now, he would say yes. that has been the issue, he wants a full no trade clause and teams are reluctant to give it to him.

  4. A.J. 3 years ago

    As a Cubs fan the thought of signing Prince sounds awesome, at first. After thinking about it, I don’t think its the right move. I don’t see his body holding up and that’s a lot of money. We need pitching and to strengthen our farm system.

  5. Fielder has never posted back to back seasons of 1.000+ OPS. His fielding is suspect. He could very well be on the decline at 27 years of age. Please, sign him Texas!

    • vtadave 3 years ago

      …and Matt Kemp has NEVER posted a 1.000 OPS over ONE full season. Is he on the decline too?

    • Rangersfan32 3 years ago

      Oh gosh yeah, he just had one of the best years of his career. He must be on the decline.

  6. j6takish 3 years ago

    Hamilton is a great guy and all, but I really hope the Rangers give him the CJ treatment. I don’t see how he could possibly stay healthy enough to earn his contract

    • James Attwood 3 years ago

      The length of contract would be what I would think the Rangers would be more worried about than AAV. Hamilto, even the way he has been the last few years is still worth $13-16MM/year. At 2-3 years, the Rangers could do far worse than bringing him back, especially if they were to also sign Fielder.  It’s if he wants that happy 5 year deal that they should let some other team overpay for him (and someone will).

  7. By “trim and fit”, do they mean they thought Prince was over 300 lbs?

    • Hey, that blousey Brewers jersey adds 30 lbs. by itself… then there’s the TV cameras to consider on top of that.

      • toddcoffeytime 3 years ago

        Agreed, he’s not THAT fat in person.  More portly, or stout.  Really his weight is no big deal…He’s going to play in 160+ games a year until hes 32 or 33.

    • sonofsnake 3 years ago

      They were surprised he fit in his chair.

    • sonofsnake 3 years ago

      They were surprised he fit in his chair.

  8. Adam R 3 years ago

    If there is one gaping hole the Rangers have, its scoring runs.

  9. MaineSox 3 years ago

    “they may need to choose whether to invest in Fielder or Josh Hamilton long-term.”

    If this is true, and they decide to invest in Fielder, I wonder if they would attempt to move Hamilton, or if they would just let him leave as a free agent at the end of the year?  Just thinking out loud, but I could see several teams being very interested in him if he were on the market.

    • Rangersfan32 3 years ago

      These sources have consistently been wrong about how much money Texas has. Texas has that huge TV deal coming up soon and I thin they have the money to sign Darvish, Fielder and Hamilton. Young comes off the books soon, so Texas could backload his contract a bit. It really just comes down to wether or not the FO thinks he can stay healthy enough to earn a contract worth 15 million or more over at least 3 years.

      • MaineSox 3 years ago

         I’m not personally ruling out the Rangers signing both Darvish and Fielder and extending Hamilton, just asking an interesting question based on the speculation of someone else saying that “they may have to chose which one to invest in.”

        • Rangersfan32 3 years ago

          They might have to. If that’s the case, I wouldn’t be surprised if Prince is signed and Moreland replaces Hamilton when the time comes. But with Young, Torrealba, Lowe, and Cruz all coming off the books soon, I think Texas can absorb all three contracts quite comfortably. We do have a group of incredibly wealthy owners after all. Hopefully they’re willing to add a bit to the payroll.

    • vtadave 3 years ago

      Only way Hamilton gets moved is if the Angels are running away with the division come July 31. That is unlikely, so Hamilton probably isn’t going anywhere.

      • MaineSox 3 years ago

        You’re probably right, but if they could replace Hamilton’s production with Fielder’s production, while turning Hamilton into several other pieces to help them now and in the future, I would think they would have to at least consider it.

        Obviously they would have to get a really good haul for Hamilton, and they’d have to have someone to replace him in the outfield (I have no idea if they do, or if it would have to come in the theoretical trade), but I could definitely see a scenario where it would make sense for them to trade him now rather than let him walk for (maybe) draft picks.

  10. redsx968 3 years ago

    If Fielder goes to Texas I might switch allegiances. I think Fielder in Texas is the most perfect and player/park combination possible. He would hit BOMBS there. 

  11. If he’s willing to accept an offer that low, and the Mariners believe that Montero can stick at catcher, there’s no reason NOT to sign Fielder. A lineup started by Ichiro, Dustin Ackley, Jesus Montero, and Prince Fielder is a lineup that may be able to win some games.

    • hartvig 3 years ago

      I wouldn’t count on Montero sticking at catcher- everything out of New York prior to the trade said he wasn’t developing defensively plus the fact that New York went ahead with the trade even with Posada retiring and Martin a potential free-agent after 2012 and their 1st base and DH slots clogged by Teixeira and an aging left side of the infield- all of that says to me that New York views him as 1st base/DH material.

      I still view the trade as reasonable on both sides with both taking on some risks with potential upside while helping to address immediate needs of both teams. My gut says Montero has a slightly lower potential peak value (think Carlos Quentin- hopefully without the injuries) but the risk of injury for pitchers or even their just coming untracked is usually greater.

  12. Alex Nelson 3 years ago

    I think the Mariners are still in on Prince Fielder. Montero is not enough but both of them with young guys like ackley and carp would then be dangerous. Anyone else agree that Mariners aren’t done?

    • Guest 3 years ago

      they are done……why would they give up pineda for montero???…..this move makes alot more sense for seattle as to where they feel as though they don’t have to sign fielder……

    • Exactly — now they should be in more than ever, especially @ 6 years, $23MM.

    • InLeylandWeTrust 3 years ago

      Would it really be dangerous? Or would it just be a regular offense for once?

  13. jwsox 3 years ago

    I don’t see how fielder would effect Hamilton. Young comes off the books the tv deal kicks in and ticket sales have sky rocketed with back to back world series runs. Fielder at 6/120 should not mean anything for Hamilton at 3/60 maybe 3/45( injury prone) sign them both they have the money. Heck throw an opt out clause in fielders contract. A line up of kinsler-young-Hamilton-fielder-beltre-Napoli-Cruz-Moreland-andrus is scary!

    • NYPOTENCE 3 years ago

      If they sign Darvish, Fielder is sure to have an impact on Hamilton. That is if they sign him. There is also the possibilty that Darvish chooses to return to Japan and Fielder doesn’t sign with them. 

      • James Attwood 3 years ago

        If somehow the sky were to fall and Darvish doesn’t sign with TEX, Fielder and Boras will be getting a HUGE payday as TEX will almost certainly overpay to make sure they land Fielder. Heck, in that scenario Boras might even get a 2 for 1 and get them to sign Jackson as well.

        • Rangersfan32 3 years ago

          Texas would replace Darvish with Oswalt most likely.

          • James Attwood 3 years ago

            I tend to agree, though it would not surprise me if the get Oswalt regardless of how all this plays out.

          • Rangersfan32 3 years ago

            It would actually surprise me a lot. We currently have 6 potential starters on this team. 7 if Darvish signs. If we sign Darvish, I doubt Texas does anything pitching wise except find a lefty reliever.

    • I think with Hamilton it’d have to be closer to 5 years at close to $90M.

      • Ferrariman 3 years ago

        if thats all it takes for a center fielder with his production, i can see about 10 teams in on him.  Its gonna take more..

    • MetsMagic 3 years ago

      Moreland looks so out of place in that line up. Hamilton moves back to CF in your proposal? 

  14. johnsmith4 3 years ago

    I have to wonder if this is a negotiating ploy by Texas in their dealings with Yu Darvish. In other words, they are showing Yu their alternative if they can’t reach an agreement.

  15. johnsmith4 3 years ago

    I have to wonder if this is a negotiating ploy by Texas in their dealings with Yu Darvish. In other words, they are showing Yu their alternative if they can’t reach an agreement.

  16. NYBravosFan10 3 years ago

    I personally want Fielder to sign with the Rangers so they have to let Josh Hamilton go. The Braves are going to have some serious coin next winter and I think Hamilton should be on Frankie’s wish list.

    • Rangersfan32 3 years ago

      Rangers wouldn’t have to let Hamilton go because of Fielder. Young. Huge rise in attendance in recent years, huge tv deal coming, and Lowe, Torrealba, Young and Cruz coming off the books soon. Darvish, Fielder, Hamilton and extension to Napoli, Kinsler and Lewis can all be done in the next two seasons.

      • keep dreaming silly rangers fan. Fielder wont be a ranger. he will stay in the NL. and i will laugh if they cant get a deal done with darvish either.

        • Rangersfan32 3 years ago

          Lol somebody seems to have a personal vendetta against Texas. Guessing you’re a Yankee fan huh?

          • Rangersfan32 3 years ago

            Oh look at that, once your avatar loads, you are a Yankee fan! So obviously you must know all about the Texas organization to say we can’t get Fielder.

        • Beau Buchholz 3 years ago

          And I will laugh if an NL team signs Fielder.  Have fun with that glove in 5 years. 

          • Natsfan89 3 years ago

            If its a 6 year deal, as a Nats fan, I won’t care what his glove is like in five years because he’s almost at the end of his deal and we would have (hopefully) gone to the playoffs multiple times

  17. Alex Nelson 3 years ago

    They don’t have offense with montero alone. Adding a bat with montero makes sense.

  18. A_Shoe 3 years ago

    If I’m the Nats, I’d take a 6 year deal for Prince, easy.

  19. Mark12 3 years ago

    Watch out for the Dodgers. They will b the team he goes too.

  20. Twinkilling61 3 years ago

    Boras must have told Prince to wear a girdle during the Rangers meeting.

  21. Twinkilling61 3 years ago

    Boras must have told Prince to wear a girdle during the Rangers meeting.

  22. Bob George 3 years ago

    You guys really need to stop posting this nonsense about the Cubs going after Fielder. They didn’t trade Andrew Cashner so Rizzo can rot in the minors and go sign Fielder. Sveum, Theo, and Hoyer all keep saying they are not going to sign Fielder and have no interest in him. Period. Their situation makes no sense to sign someone like Fielder. Perhaps in 2-3 seasons signing a big name, big salaried free agent would fit, but not until then.

  23. I know it seems unlikely, but don’t rule the mariners out just yet!

    If they feel like Montero’s bat is good enough to play catcher, or think they can develop him there, then there is still a spot for Fielder! Unless of course, they plan on playing Fielder at catcher…

  24. tdot32 3 years ago

    The Decision II : Fielder’s Dilemma

  25. Prince Fielder is a guy who is consistently on the field. Very consistently. His body should hold up unless he gets a freak injury.  However, it doesn’t make sense to sign him to a big contract when that isn’t what anyone wants.  Look at Soriano.  If all goes incorrectly, we could have another one of those on our hands.  And with Theo’s recent bomb of Carl Crawford in free agency, he probably doesn’t want to go for it either.

    Second, we just go Rizzo, and Bryan LaHair looks like he could be really good for a few years.  He hit 38 homers last year in Iowa I believe, and came up and hit .288 with the Cubs with 2 shots in 59 at bats.

    Right now, my priority is trading Soriano.  If it’s true that 8 teams have inquired, and now that Victor Martinez tore his ACL, I see this getting done.  Say the Cubs eat most of the contract, then why would a team like Detroit NOT go for it?  Because right now, their backs are against the wall and they could potentially be risking a lot of Cabrera’s production without V-Martinez behind him.

    Back to Fielder (sorry for the spiel).  He’s not going to sign for one-year in Milwaukee, he’s not going to the Cubs.  That leaves Texas and Washington.  Once Texas signs Darvish, I believe they’re done spending big money.  Darvish will end up costing them higher than $100 million including the bidding, and Prince will be that much too.  In my mind, he’s going to Washington.

  26. RedEyedDream 3 years ago

    If there is one thing Theo can do it’s rebuilt a team to a winner. 

  27. commenter3346 3 years ago

    Although I think he can do it, Theo Epstein has never rebuilt a team. The Red Sox didn’t need rebuilding when Epstein took over, they had already been to the ALCS the year before. 

  28. Cheeseballs 3 years ago

    Explain to me when theo rebuilt anything? The Red sox were a 90 win team before he took over. This is new to him.

  29. MaineSox 3 years ago

    While he didn’t tear down a team and start over, he definitely rebuilt the Red Sox in his time here.  He just did it while also being able to field a competitive team because he had a good core of players to start with.

    The things he will be doing with the Cubs are the same things he did with the Sox minor league system and scouting/drafting/developing departments, the only difference will be he wont have a successful major league team while he does it.  But he also has the chance to trade good major league talent to acquire minor league talent to help get him started, which he couldn’t do in Boston.

  30. MaineSox 3 years ago

     All signs do point to a Fielder decline… someday…

  31. MaineSox 3 years ago

    Read my response to commenter3346.  He definitely rebuilt the Red Sox in his time here.

  32. MaineSox 3 years ago

    Read my response to commenter3346.  He definitely rebuilt the Red Sox in his time here.

  33. Rangersfan32 3 years ago

    Oh yeah definitely. Everyone in their FO is saying they won’t get him and they’re having a fire sale, but they’ll sign Fielder even though the Cubs won’t be good during his prime. Good plan.

  34. Rangersfan32 3 years ago

    Oh yeah definitely. Everyone in their FO is saying they won’t get him and they’re having a fire sale, but they’ll sign Fielder even though the Cubs won’t be good during his prime. Good plan.

  35. He better stay out of the Central with my Reds having Marshall and Chapman he will get embarrassed.

  36. burtonbball88 3 years ago

    He had a good core of players, and added players like Ellsbury, Pedroia, and Papelbon (all players that are really hard to spell their name, and please don’t correct me). Plus built up prospects to trade for Gonzales. The only downfall he has is signing Lackey. I think the Crawford signing isn’t a bust because it was the right thing to do, Crawford just didn’t produce.

  37. sonofsnake 3 years ago

    Why trade?  He’ll be a free agent.

  38. Pete, Sveum could say anything he wants, he’s not part of the front office. 

  39. jb226 3 years ago

    That has always been the MLBTR format: Old information in paragraph form at the top, new information in bullet points on the bottom (though the newest of the “new information” on top).  The ridiculous part was that anybody out there still believes the Cubs would be interested in six years of Prince Fielder.  One, okay.  Two, maybe.  Six?  Lulz. Not with Rizzo on board.

  40. James Attwood 3 years ago

    Totally agree that it is kind of silly that the Cubs have all but taken out an ad in the NYT saying they are out of the Fielder sweepstakes but they keep getting attached to him. The ONLY reason I could see talking about it is if the Cubs are “secretly” one of 2-3 teams that Fielder actually WANTS to go play for and so Boras keeps trying to leverage him in that direction.

    In all fairness, I only see Fielder as having two legitimate suitors now, TEX and WAS. SEA might still be a long-shot if they are willing to up the offer into the Pujols type years and money, which they would be smart to avoid.

  41. Guest 3 years ago

    in referance to your point, do you think theo&co would let sveum say that freely on his own??? im pretty sure they ok’d that one

  42. James Attwood 3 years ago

    I hope you’re right about OAK being a competitor by 2014. With Selig sticking around as Commish though, OAK may also be two years away from having to trade for another new farm like they did this year.

    Just saying…

  43. Rangersfan32 3 years ago

    Cruz, Torrealba and even Lowe are probably on the way out for various reasons. Kinsler will be extended. Napoli, Lewis and Adams are near locks to be extended. Hamilton is a wildcard. It just depends on if both sides can find a middle ground, which I’m sure they can. But Moreland can easily replace an OF spot and if both Hamilton and Cruz leave, I believe Kinsler makes a Soriano type move to the OF when Profar is ready in 2013. Our system is also probably the best and deepest system, other than the Braves, when it comes to pitching prospects. So any bullpen losses can easily be nullified. People are overreacting to this right now. As for the M’s and A’s being good by 2013, that’s a long shot. The Mariners have no bats at all and the A’s only just now started rebuilding.

  44. jb226 3 years ago

    I doubt Sveum or anybody else has to run back to the front office for permission to say something to a reporter.  If there was something going on they didn’t want out there, they either wouldn’t tell him or would have explicitly told him to keep it quiet.  Beyond that it would be his discretion; players and managers interact with reporters too often to need permission every time.

    That said, he wouldn’t make such a definitive comment without some knowledge to base it on.  That PROBABLY means that there is no chance Fielder comes to the Cubs.  There is an off chance that he’s simply lying, but I don’t think that’s the case here.

  45. MaineSox 3 years ago

     I don’t see any actual argument there that he didn’t rebuild the Red Sox.  In my post I acknowledged the fact that he had a decent major league team to start and therefor was able to maintain competitiveness while rebuilding the system.  But I don’t know how you can argue with the fact that he completely overhauled the Red Sox from top to bottom (outside of the major league team he was handed, which he actually also made significant changes to).

    When he took over, the Red Sox had a terrible farm system (and had for years) and were not very good at drafting, scouting, and/or developing talent; he then turned that around and made it into a system that was heralded as one of the best in the game.

  46. imachainsaw 3 years ago

    ironic how you spelled the hard-to-spell names correctly but misspelled ‘Gonzalez’ which is not an uncommon surname.

    To add to the Crawford point, I think it’s absolutely moronic for people to declare the contract a bust just one year into a seven year deal. very premature, especially when you consider all the tools that crawford has to offer.

  47. imachainsaw 3 years ago

    ironic how you spelled the hard-to-spell names correctly, but misspelled “Gonzalez” which is not an uncommon surname.

    to add to the crawford point, I think it’s very premature to even consider the contract a ‘bust’ since it’s only one year into a seven year deal. specially when you consider all the tools crawford has to offer. bawwwston nation needs to give it time, crawford is a good player and he will produce.

  48. Rangersfan32 3 years ago

    Who cares? You won’t compete for at least 3-4 years. Why waste Fielders prime years to keep Rizzo from playing first? Go young and build a team. Garza needs to be traded. The Cubs could take a huge leap in the rebuilding effort by trading him.

  49. who cares niether the cubs nor the rangers are going to get him. he is going to end up in washington or back in milwaukee

  50. idk if crawford can produce like he did in tampa. when he was with tampa he was was a beast at home. outside of the trop he was just above average if not average. but as far as a bust goes, no i wouldnt say he is. boston really needs to put him RF let him use his weapons (arm and speed) in that big area in RF instead of sticking him 200 feet from homeplate with a wall that stands 70 feet in leftfield.

  51. Rangersfan32 3 years ago

    Unlike those three teams, he’d be a luxury for Texas. If we don’t get him it’s no big deal. If we do, great.

  52. Justin Brunick 3 years ago

    You can’t have a fire sale if none of the players are even remotely warm, let alone hot.  The Cubs are just getting rid of a few ice cubes so they can get rid of this brain freeze of the past few years.

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