The Latest On Yoenis Cespedes

Here's the latest on Yoenis Cespedes, who was officially declared a free agent last week…

  • "We are aware of the [Spring Training] dates," said agent Adam Katz to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (Twitter links). "We expect him to be in camp with one of the clubs." Katz also called the market for Cespedes "meaningful and aggressive."
  • The Marlins, Cubs, White Sox, Orioles, and Tigers are five of the six clubs that have been in serious talks with Cespedes, reports ESPN's Jim Bowden (Twitter links). He is expected to travel to the United States in the next 7-10 days for face-to-face meetings.
  • Baseball America's Jim Callis said he would rank Cespedes in the 7-15 range of their top 100 prospects list, and that he would take over as the top prospect of pretty much any team that signs him.


117 Responses to The Latest On Yoenis Cespedes Leave a Reply

  1. InLeylandWeTrust 3 years ago

    Dave…Dave…Dave…

    No.

    • RationalSportsFan 3 years ago

      I am curious why you say no to Cespedes.  We fans know virtually nothing about him, except for what the professionals have said about him (much more so than even low-level prospects who usually have a fair amount of video of them on the internet).

      And almost every professional scout whose opinion I have seen is a big believer in this guy.

      So, why are you against the Tigers’ signing him?  Especially without knowing any concrete dollar amounts…

      • It could be that some scouts say he needs a full year at AA.  It might even be that he doesn’t want to spend $40MM.  It’ possible that he’s afraid that he’s not really as talented as he’s been made out to be.

        I say put him at 1B.  That’s just me though.

        • RationalSportsFan 3 years ago

          When he comes up to the MLB doesn’t matter as much as some assume, since the team that gets Cespedes will have 6 yrs of control, just like he was a rookie (unless the contract includes a stipulation that the team will not offer arbitration after a certain yr…if that’s even allowed). 

          My key point, however, is that it is illogical to be against a move just because you fear that all the scouts are wrong.  If we had seen plenty of film on him and someone formed a different opinion than a scout, that’s fine.  But our only evidence concerning his ability is from these scouts who sing his praises.  Why assume they are wrong when there is no evidence supporting that assumption?

          • Oh I’m not disagreeing, merely playing Devil’s advocate.

            And for the Tigers, it’s obviously ‘win now’, so I’m not sure Cespedes can help this season.

            The big unkown is what his adjustment period will be like.  I know the biggest concern for many scouts is how he’ll adjust to better breaking pitches.

        • redsx968 3 years ago

          I say his value plays much better in Center than at 1st. No Way

    • JacksTigers 3 years ago

      I say yes. I think that to finish off the offseason, we should get him and what the White Sox want for Gordon Beckham. We need speed and defense to a stacked powerhouse of a lineup. Both of these guys give that. I think Cespedes would fit in the two hole with Boesch moving down to the five hole. If there was ever a place in this league that he could master, it would be in front of Miguel Cabrera and Prince Fielder.

      • LeylandsLung 3 years ago

        I agree we should take a chance with this guy in LF. Currently our best defensive LFers are Dirks, Kelly, Raburn, the Ball Girl.

  2. Isn’t Soler better than him?

    • Snoochies8 3 years ago

      he’s projected to be better, yes, but right now, just because cespedes is older and more developed, he’s better

    • InLeylandWeTrust 3 years ago

      Soler, in my opinion, is going to be the real prize here. 

      • To me, it’s the difference between Julio Teheran and Dylan Bundy.

        One is MLB-ready (or nearly) while the other is still very young and needs time.  The younger one could very well end up being better, and has that kind of ceiling, but needs to develop still.

        • Soler could be a lot better because if he signs soon, coming up through an MLB farm system will help him that much more.

  3. OrangeCards 3 years ago

    So, is any prospect in the 7-15 range worth a 30 million dollar commitment?

    • Technically, we (Rangers) did that for Darvish. They said he would be right there with Moore as the best “prospect” though.

      • bjsguess 3 years ago

        You did that … and about $70m more. Darvish will be at least 3x’s the cost of Cespedes.

        • To be fair, Moore is projected to be an ace immediately.  So getting the guy right after him isn’t too bad.

    • bjsguess 3 years ago

      That’s the big point. $30m commitment is HUGE. 

      The whole point of a great prospect is that you have cost control prior to him hitting FA. A top prospect like Trout costs you a few million at most. Even a once in a generation prospect like Bryce Harper cost $10m. Granted he wasn’t a FA but still you are talking about three times the cost.

      In evaluating Cespedes it really should be a question of where he ranks in the FA class as his dollars line up much closer to a FA than what an amatuer would see in the draft.

      • OrangeCards 3 years ago

        While his projected salary puts him in the realm of other free agents, his track record certainly does not. In fact, he has less of a track record than any of the other top prospects given the uncertainly in his competition.

        • notsureifsrs 3 years ago

          yup. the cuban league’s best comparison is low-A ball. he dominated there, but as a prospect he’s waaay old for that level of competition. he’s had no significant development experience against quality pitching

  4. stl_cards16 3 years ago

    “Baseball America’s Jim Callis said he would rank Cespedes in the 7-15 range of their top 100 prospects list, and that he would take over as the top prospect of pretty much any team that signs him.”

    Besides the teams with prospects ranked 1-6 and possibly 7-14.

  5. Encarnacion's Parrot 3 years ago

    So with 5 of the 6 clubs listed, I suppose Mystery Team is required here? When do they get their own hash-tag?

  6. Welcome to the D.

  7. rsanchez1 3 years ago

    Can’t forget, there always needs to be a Mystery Team™.

  8. Would like the Cubs take a shot at him or Soler

  9. baseball52 3 years ago

    Sign all the Cubans!

  10. just sign already.

  11. I’m surprised the Orioles seem interested. Would they move Adam Jones to LF? Or trade him?

    • They might see Cespedes as a LF.  Personally I think the O’s have more interest in Soler than Cespedes.  Time will tell I guess.

    • $3513744 3 years ago

      Move him to SS.

      • He did play there in high school (and maybe early on in the Mariners system)

  12. Terencemann 3 years ago

    Cubs should be in on this. If he doesn’t work out, it won’t be that much money compared to an average RF on the open market. If he does work out, He could be a steal.

  13. CitizenSnips 3 years ago

    Having never watched the training video is there actual footage of him playing the game or just him doing outrageous exercise/And1 type stuff?

    • JacksTigers 3 years ago

      There is video of him playing. It shows a couple of base hits from the WBC and some of his key homeruns in the Cuban League.

      • Snoochies8 3 years ago

        i tried posting the youtube video for that whole at bat when he hit his dominican league home run

        some of those swings, he’s trying to pull a ball away off the plate and somehow manages to foul them off the end of his bat

        • JacksTigers 3 years ago

          But that isn’t that uncommon with prospects. It’s something that with some good coaching and time in the bigs, I think that he could bloom into a very good player. Perhaps a player like Franklin Gutierrez in 2009 with more speed but less stellar defense.

  14. diddykong 3 years ago

    I hope the Red Sox sign him bc WE have had a very boring offseason and WE need something to talk about for the next month and a half. Plus, if he is a bust then WE get even closer to being blown up and reupping the farm with hungry kids. WE WE US US US WE WE WE!!!!!!!

  15. Dear Reds,
    Please be the “surprise team” again and make this happen (despite a limited payroll).  He would be solid out in LF.
    Thanks.

    • JacksTigers 3 years ago

      I doubt it. I could see them being a surprise team for Soler, but I don’t see it for Cespedes.

      • Has there been any articles on what Soler might receive in FA? I can’t find any.

        • JacksTigers 3 years ago

          I haven’t seen any either.

        • I tweeted Ben Badler about Soler and he said there is no timetable for him being declared a FA and that there are “a lot of factors” that impact it.  I’m thinking the lack of certainty (and his status of being a prospect rather than an MLB guy) makes pontification on his demands or likely cost kind of silly.

          No?

          • I figured he would come cheaper than Cespedes, who knows though.

          • I imagine he would.  If for no other reason than that he won’t provide MLB value for a few years.

  16. Tko11 3 years ago

    Just like Tim Tebow can fix his throwing motion wait……nvm.

    • jimboslice9 3 years ago

      Swings are much easier to fix than throwing motions.  Both Tebow and Byron Leftwich were thought to be able to fix their throwing motion and couldn’t.  Many a major leaguer has changed their swing and experienced better results, especially ones who are in the minors (where Cespedes is likely to be).

      • Tko11 3 years ago

        Idk, everyone seems to be putting him in their starting lineup when they talk about signing him.

        • jimboslice9 3 years ago

          While that is true, I don’t think anyone actually will.  Aroldis Chapman as well as El Duque both spent time in the minors, however short it was.  I can’t think of a single Cuban prospect to ever jump right in to the MLB, and I doubt Cespedes is the best Cuban prospect ever.

          • Tko11 3 years ago

            In my opinion he doesnt even deserve to be ranked a top 30 prospect once he signs…Some people are already talking about him being top 10. Completely ridiculous to hype this guy up so much, he has not done a single thing yet.

  17. I was being facetious.  Because, you know, the Tigers already have 3 first baseman.

  18. Agreed.  Similar to how Bundy can be better than Teheran.

    • michael hughes 3 years ago

      Please, Teheran’s upside is a front of the rotation starter, a number one on any team, and one of the best pitchers in the sport. I’m not saying he’ll reach that but he’s currently the top pitching prospect in baseball and not because he’s close to the majors. Bundy’s upside is not seen as being higher than Teheran’s.

      • I mean you can believe that if you want.  Bundy has 1 plus pitch and 3 above average ones.  All 4 could be plus in a few years.  Teheran doesn’t even have 4 pitches.

        Some scouts have said that if Bundy was 6’3″ he would start on opening day (based on his stuff).  Teheran is a top 5 prospect in AAA because he is really talented and is a pretty sure shot at being a contributor at the MLB level.  Bundy is a top 10 prospect at 19.

        Not trying to say Teheran isn’t great, but saying Bundy doesn’t have the upside of Teheran is just silly.  Note that I said Bundy CAN be better than Teheran, meaning he also might not.

        Just sayin

        • michael hughes 3 years ago

          I’m not saying Bundy can’t be as good as Teheran or that his upside isn’t similar but I haven’t heard anyone say that they see his upside as higher. Teheran is only 21 and is nearly MLB ready. It’s just not accurate to portray Teheran’s value coming mostly from the fact that he is nearly MLB ready.

          • That’s not my intention.  I’m merely saying that people see Cespedes as a rare talent that’s nearly MLB ready.  Teheran also fits that mold.

            Soler is seen as very high upside, but a few years away.  He could very well be better than Cespedes.  He might not.  Bundy fits this mold.

  19. You took the words right out of my mouth.

  20. JacksTigers 3 years ago

    Here! Here! I’m over here! Right here! Here! Hey! You! Notice me! I’m right here! Hey!

  21. michael hughes 3 years ago

    Yeah, I’m almost 100% sure no one employed by a MLB team would ever have a problem with fans identifying with their team.

    • Greg Dunn 3 years ago

      Fans identifying with the team is how they make their living, so yeah, it’d be pretty counter-intuitive for them to be upset about it.

  22. windycitywarrior 3 years ago

    Im telling you the White Sox make a splash and sign all the Cubans coming out. They have Peavy, Pierzynski and Thorntons contracts coming off the books next year. Rios is only a few years after and thats if they dont trade him off before that.  The team is getting younger and cheaper so they will be able to spend on Soler and Concepcion long term and Cespedes in more of the short.

  23. I think I would rather keep Delmon Young, if he can shed some lbs.

    • LeylandsLung 3 years ago

      If DY sheds pounds he will lose his power without picking up any speed. He is a trainwreck waiting to happen in LF. Put him at DH and take a gamble on this “kid”.

      • Pawsdeep 3 years ago

        Agreed. Get DY out of the field completely. I have no problems with him DHing, but DY in LF scares me a hell of a lot more than miggy at 3B.

        • Vote4DougWilson 3 years ago

          I agree with that, but I’m not sure signing Cespedes is the solution. He’s a pricey gamble for a team that just took on serious payroll. Let Delmon DH and do LF by committee for now, then Delmon can walk next season while Victor DH’s and the team can look for a surer thing with leadoff potential next off season if Jackson hasn’t gotten it together.

  24. Rusty_Arcadia 3 years ago

    Ah the Cespedes debate. Is he worth $30M or not? We won’t know until he faces Major League pitching. What we do know is that he dominated A /AA level pitching.
    EVERYONE should remember one simple thing… So did Brandon Wood.

  25. CADILLACLMP 3 years ago

    YOENIS CESPEDES and his agent, are going to find out that his value will ultimatly be set on just how well, he can hit solid , major league pitching. AL KALINE,won the A.L. batting title,AT 18 yrs of age,a record that stands TO THIS DAY!THIS ISNT CASTROs CUBA,AND he posseses ALL FIVE TOOLS,to be a major leaguer,so SENIOR CESPEDES,use those tools and earn a roster spot!

  26. GOTIGERS24 3 years ago

    If the Tigers get Cespedes their lineup would be amazing.

    1. Cespedes
    2. Boesch
    3 Cabrera
    4. Fielder
    5. Young
    6. Avila
    7. Peralta
    8. Santiago
    9. Jackson

    plus a rotation of

    1. Verlander
    2. Fister
    3. Scherzer
    4. Porcello
    5. Turner/Smyly/trade/freeagent

    and a bullpen with Valverde Benoit Dotel Alburquerque Coke

    That is a great team good bullpen great rotation and great lineup. If they could get edwin jackson on a 1 year contract that would be perfect too pencil him in as their 3 starter he gets a lot of wins because of our offense and Comerica is a pitcher Park. Do it DD sign Cespedes and Jackson. We need 1 more pitcher and more speed if we want a world series.

  27. stl_cards16 3 years ago

    I agree with you a little.  But I have to admit, I would be really excited if the Cardinals came out of nowhere and signed him.  You and I both know that’s not going to happen though.  So I’ll go with he’s overrated! haha

  28. $3513744 3 years ago

    Sure, that’s only if you want to look at this logically.

  29. stl_cards16 3 years ago

    Is that really any different than the people on here hoping their favorite team signs him for $35MM?  No one knows much about him.  At least he can form his own opinion on something instead of following the sheep.

  30. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    in his defense

    that swing looks dangerous….very dangerous….and very long…almost reminds me of vlad’s swing on the positive end, or wily mo on the negative end

  31. MattCMoore 3 years ago

    I think it was more of a uneducated guess… which I hate.

  32. $3513744 3 years ago

    No, that’s actually not any different.  They are just as illogical as him.

  33. RationalSportsFan 3 years ago

    But the difference is that the significant majority of scouts (at least from what I’ve seen) are really high on Cespedes.  They are our main source of info right now.  Why assume they are wrong for what seemingly amounts to some gut feeling?

  34. stl_cards16 3 years ago

    I feel sorry for those people. Boo hoo

  35. coup 3 years ago

    Gag. There’s nothing wrong with stating we or us at a fan site for baseball rumors.

  36. xcal1br 3 years ago

    It’s called being invested in your team of choice.  All “us” die-hards do it.  :)

  37. JacksTigers 3 years ago

    Who? I’ve never heard anyone that works for a team complain about that.

  38. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    i definitely hope he turns into a vlad-like player (unless he signs with a rival AL west team, being an A’s fan)

  39. Fact.  Though his arm would play in RF obviously.  I guess it comes down to him vs. Markakis for the O’s in terms of which corner OF spot.

  40. RationalSportsFan 3 years ago

    Of course you are entitled to your opinion.  And other posters are entitled to point out when you have formed your opinion on too little information or on a faulty reasoning pattern.  That’s what makes it illogical.

  41. stl_cards16 3 years ago

    I think there are quite a few reasons not to be crazy about him.  Some scouts say he isn’t big league ready and he’s already 26.  Do you know what they call 26 year olds that are still in AA after being drafted? Busts.   He looked horrible in his few at bats in the winter league.  It could be rust or that he was nervous and it is such a small sample size.  It could be that he isn’t near big league ready.  If he isn’t you’re paying $30MM-$40MM for a 26 year-old prospect! 

  42. baseball52 3 years ago

    They should be in on both with the rule changes. Soler is years away and needs to develop.

    Based on what? Being 26?

  43. double a level in cuba you got to be kidding me . Take any double a ball club to cuba to play against any cuban team and i bet you they won win a game

  44. cachhubguy 3 years ago

    Soriano was a stud from age 26 – 32. If he could put up offensive numbers anywhere near Soriano’s it would be worth it. And this guy can field. 

  45. JacksTigers 3 years ago

    Were any of those people employed by teams? Once again, I’ve never heard an actual employee (that wasn’t a vendor) complain about that

    And for $7 per hot dog, they should let me sit in the dugout.

  46. stl_cards16 3 years ago

    If it makes the Cardinals so mad that I refer to THEM that way, they can refund the money I’ve spent towards tickets, jerseys, beer, soda, nachos, cotton candy, hot dogs, peanuts, parking, flags, and the days I’ve spent watching them on TV over my lifetime.  Until then, WE

  47. I’ve invested alot of money and way too much time into my team. I think I can say “we”. If there is a problem JD and Nolan can give me a call.
    In all liklihood I will be working for the Rangers soon anyway as a graphic designer. I work for the Cowboys at the moment.

  48. JacksTigers 3 years ago

    From what I’ve heard, he has a great work ethic, making me believe that with some coaching, he could fix that swing. I like him.

  49. Flootie McTootie 3 years ago

    In your world, “xcal1br,” language must have no meaning.

  50. stl_cards16 3 years ago

    I would rather the person using bad logic and actually commenting on the article than you on here crying about everyones comments without adding anything to the conversation.

  51. xcal1br 3 years ago

    Mind explaining yourself, professor?

  52. stl_cards16 3 years ago

    So what level is he?  The Cuban leagues are not the Big Leagues and not even AAA competition. 

    All scouts have said he will need time in the minors and some have even said starting at AA.  So when it suits your argument, we need to just trust the scouts.  But only the VERY FEW scouts who think he is ready right now?  Oh yeah, that other guys logic was horrible, geesh.

    Edit : On the small sample size. It’s not the results that are backing some(including some scouts) away. It’s that he looked completely lost and very raw. Going back to the original point, the physical tools are there, no doubt. But he’s already 26, so if he’s a “project” then he’s probably overrated.

  53. You don’t know that.

    To be fair.  (not saying I know more than Mr. Goldstein, just saying that dealing in absolutes is a fool’s errand).

  54. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    actually with those types of raves from guys like goldstein, that gives cespedes more room to be considered “overrated”

    i hope he lives up to the hype, personally

  55. tigers22 3 years ago

    $7 per hot dog?  Dude, don’t know what kinda hot dogs you’ve been buying at Comerica, but Hebrew Nationals aren’t even 7 bucks lol.  

    But yeah, fans have a vested interest in their team, especially diehard fans… so I don’t think there is a problem using “us” or “we”.  I honestly don’t think many team employees would as well.  Teams usually, you know, try to embrace their fanbase… not get mad about the words they use. 

  56. disgustedcubfan 3 years ago

    I agree. I think Theo is going to take some of the money he was going to hand out to draft picks, and give it to 2 of the 3 Cubans instead.

  57. JacksTigers 3 years ago

    Yes, but it wasn’t possible for him to sign. I’m sure if it was, he would have signed a while ago.

  58. stl_cards16 3 years ago

    I feel like there should be some free tickets for all the MLBTR regulars coming? haha

    That’s pretty cool though.  The most I’ve ever worked for the Cardinals is getting my friends/family to go to games with me all season long. lol

  59. scott brecht 3 years ago

    I think you need to start eating healthier

  60. stl_cards16 3 years ago

    Been trying to cut back on the jerseys and flags. It’s a tough battle though.

  61. scott brecht 3 years ago

    i would be surprised if they have the money for one, let alone two.  

  62. YanksFanSince78 3 years ago

    Take out a restraining order. he’s not allowed to come withing 10 posts of your comment.

  63. windycitywarrior 3 years ago

    I would be surprised if they signed Cespedes but I could definitely see them signing Soler and Concepcion for reasonable deals.

  64. cachhubguy 3 years ago

    Where did you find the profits of the White Sox? I would like to see that.

  65. disgustedcubfan 3 years ago

    Every team in baseball wants those guys for “reasonable” deals. Whoever is willing to overpay is the team that will sign them.

  66. delmonold pretty much got it.  they have hyped this guy forever.  just tired of seeing him in maybe, possibly, will he?, columns. 

  67. clubs have been scouting this guy for a couple years.  they don’t have “little to go on”.  If they pull the trigger, it won’t be based on espn or youtube.  it will be based on what they have seen.  

  68. lolpods 3 years ago

    yeopenis?

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