NL East Notes: Marlins, Mets, Swisher

Juan Carlos Oviedo isn’t the only member of the Marlins with a different name for the 2012 season. The slugger known as Mike Stanton said today that he prefers Giancarlo, according to the Associated Press (via ESPN.com). MLBTR will now refer to him as Giancarlo Stanton and our archives reflect the change. On to the latest links from the NL East… 

  • Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports says Josh Johnson looms above his teammates as the key figure for the Marlins’ chances in 2012. Rosenthal says the Marlins should contend if Johnson makes 30 starts. 
  • A Mets official said the team doesn’t see free agent catcher Ivan Rodriguez as a fit, David Lennon of Newsday tweets. Rodriguez called the Mets about an opportunity, but the club appears to have minimal interest
  • The Mets remain in touch with free agent right-hander Chris Young, according to Newsday’s Ken Davidoff (on Twitter). Young still seeks a Major League deal.
  • The Braves will make Nick Swisher their top free agent target next offseason, according to ESPN's Jim Bowden. Bowden suggests the Yankees could make an all-out push for Andre Ethier if Swisher does head to Atlanta.

Mike Axisa contributed to this post.


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78 Comments on "NL East Notes: Marlins, Mets, Swisher"


Lunchbox45
3 years 6 months ago

Giancarlo? What just happened.

Lastings
3 years 6 months ago

He found out there was once a pitcher named Mike Stanton…

Stuart Brown
3 years 6 months ago

Haha. His hispanic name is Giancarlo Cruz. It’s been on his wikipedia and baseball-reference page.

3 years 6 months ago

Uh….Giancarlo sounds more Italian than hispanic regardless of his heritage.

Stuart Brown
3 years 6 months ago

Touche. Cruz still throws me off, though. Is that of Italian origin as well? I know Spanish and Italian are pretty close, but I’m unfamiliar with names.

David X
3 years 6 months ago

I know women of all races named Maureen. A classic Irish name if ever there was one.

inleylandwetrust
3 years 6 months ago

That’s awful. I’l stick to Mike.

David X
3 years 6 months ago

If people decide to call themselves by their given names instead of the simple nicknames they’ve taken on over the years to appease tongue-tied people like you, then I think they deserve that decency and respect. You’d do that for a friend of yours, right? Well, an athlete isn’t any less a person than anyone you know.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 6 months ago

Giancarlo is a better pick up name. 

(he walks into a crowded bar and spots a lovely lady sitting at the bar. he conjures up his best rendition of the old guy in the dos equis commercial and says) “Hello lovely lady. My name Giancarlo. Giancarlo Stanton. I swing a 34 oz bat. Coincidentally, that’s also the same weight as the bat I use when I play baseball, Would you like to pitch to me tonight? Yes”?

rsanchez1
3 years 6 months ago

Stanton doesn’t need that. He’s frickin’ Stanton.

Lunchbox45
3 years 6 months ago

That was amazing.

3 years 6 months ago

 Yes

Stuart Brown
3 years 6 months ago

You’re linking to the wrong Mike Stanton at the moment.

lefty177
3 years 6 months ago

that just proves the point, everyone confuses the 2 (totally joking by the way)

coreybishop
3 years 6 months ago

Swisher?? All that money and all those good free agents, and they’re going to target Nick Swisher?? You’ve got to be kidding me -_- 

3 years 6 months ago

WOW lol, Swisher????? i would rather have prado/a prospect/heyward and use the money to lock up mccann 

coreybishop
3 years 6 months ago

True. But the good part is, even if we do sign Swisher, we’ll still have the money to resign McCann, thankfully.

Jeff
3 years 6 months ago

Prado will be at 3B, Swisher in LF in such a scenario.

If Pastornicky pans out, I’d consider dealing Uggla to re-sign Bourn.

3 years 6 months ago

 Honestly, I would rather keep Uggla in camp if that were the case.  That guy is a Grade A slugger and plays a great game.  Besides, Bourn might be able to be kept without losing any of the big name players on our team.

rundmc1981
3 years 6 months ago

I’d approach Chipper much like Favre. Count on him being in there – especially when we have an option year on him – until he says otherwise. 

What sense would it be to deal Uggla? We get rid of him and become a small-ball team again – that without Bourn – has no speed whatsoever. Uggla has a fair deal and though he doesn’t provide the best defense, his above-average bat will help balance out an OF that has below-average power.

skoods
3 years 6 months ago

It’s Jim Bowden, guys.

NYBravosFan10
3 years 6 months ago

amen

rundmc1981
3 years 6 months ago

Pure speculation. He’s just saying something obvious. NYY is going to try and re-sign, if they can get him at a deal ATL would sign him at.

rundmc1981
3 years 6 months ago

What prospect are you referring because there’s no one near MLB-ready? Lipka still has to make the transition (SS to CF) and we can re-sign Bourn for $8M/yr for 4 years or so — unless Boras works his magic.

Without knowing what Chipper will do next year – we have a reasonable option on him and he’s stated that he feels like he could play through next season – Prado is the best replacement for 3B until Salcedo/Terdoslavich prove otherwise. Frankly, I don’t feel Prado is a reasonable long-term 3B replacement, but he’d be better than any short-term fixer we could acquire if Chipper does decide to hang ’em up after 2012.

We have McCann through 2013, so we need to spend that money we have for 2012. Wren has already made comments about not having to get anything done right now, and frankly, Bethancourt is a worthy replacement to McCann who is getting better, and should be ready, if we don’t re-sign McCann – which I hope we don’t if he wants “fair market value”. 

dylanp5030
3 years 6 months ago

They should focus on keeping Bourn.

coreybishop
3 years 6 months ago

That’d be a very nice start! I was liking Josh Hamilton or Andre Ethier for a while. I’d rather trade Prado and Jurrjens to get Wil Meyers and take a chance with him instead of Swisher.

Clayton Wilson
3 years 6 months ago

Wil Meyers again……They’re not going to take Prado and Jurrjens for Meyers.

The Braves might trade for a big bat mid-season, who knows what’s going to happen. Swisher is unfortunately exactly the type of player they would target during the off-season…..

coreybishop
3 years 6 months ago

 Did they reject Prado and Jurrjens together? All I had known is they rejected the one or the other deal. Nonetheless, you are right. Swisher is exactly the guy they would aim for. Which makes no sense WHATSOEVER considering the class of outfielders coming up.

rundmc1981
3 years 6 months ago

Yes, KC turned down ATL even with both players. And ATL wouldn’t do that. They should entertain the idea of getting CHC’s Brett Jackson and paying a lot less for him. Myers is great looking, but he’s untouchable.

3 years 6 months ago

Jackson isn’t going anywhere.  The only reason he isn’t already on their 25 man roster as the starting CF is because Marlon Byrd is blocking his path as of now.  If anyone in the Cubs OF is going to be traded, it’ll be Byrd not Jackson although if I’m not mistaken, Byrd is a FA at the end of the year anyway.  At the very latest, Jackson will be their CF opening day next year.

Could he be gotten for less than Myers, probably. However, from what I read and hear, they are very excited about the kid but personally I doubt Theo would listen to a Braves offer unless they too offer up a highly touted guy in their system.

rundmc1981
3 years 6 months ago

I am saying CHC would soon trade Jackson for one of our untouchables, like Mike Minor. If we were to trade one of them Brett Jackson is just the guy ATL would dream of getting. They’ve tried unsuccessfully to get Wheeler from COL and Myers from KC.

dylanp5030
3 years 6 months ago

Myers is not going anywhere. Doesn’t make sense for a young team to get rid of a guy like that.

3 years 6 months ago

Lol Wil Myers? No

Clayton Wilson
3 years 6 months ago

 Why is this being replied to my post?

LazerTown
3 years 6 months ago

Why exactly?  Bourn is too overrated, for what he provides.  Swisher would cost about the same but provide a much higher level of production, assuming you have a cf.

Clayton Wilson
3 years 6 months ago

 What does ‘Bourn is too overrated for what he provides’ mean, exactly?

rundmc1981
3 years 6 months ago

Gold glove defense, SB crowns, and all could be had for under $10M/season…what else do you want? 

LazerTown
3 years 6 months ago

Well people talk about him like he is an all star but to me his obp is way too low to get to that level. I would much rather have someone at the top of the lineup getting .350 or above or to me you are blowing way too many chances to get runs scored. He is exciting player to watch but from a pure statistical pint of view you could do much better with your money. I would rather have Brett Gardner in cf any day than him because that guy can walk.

3 years 6 months ago

Brett Gardner had a lower OBP than Bourn last year, is only a year younger and isn’t even available.

Bourn’s OBP over the past three seasons has been .348, so it’s right at your mark. Over 600 PA, the difference is one successful PA.

-C

rundmc1981
3 years 6 months ago

Yeah, I really don’t know why everyone is through the moon for Gardner. Lazertown, you’d take Gardner over the MLB leader in SBs? You do realize Gardner has so many runs isn’t just because he’s good at getting on, but because he’s hitting in front of Granderson, Tex, Cano, A-Rod, etc. If Bourn were in that line-up, he’d double his lead in SBs.

3 years 6 months ago

Mike Stanton just has a certain ring to it…. Giencarlo….. That’s going to get old fast.

David X
3 years 6 months ago

Maybe you should learn to spell it first.

Tim Bliss
3 years 6 months ago

This is crazy! Giancarlo Stanton? Just doesn’t roll sound right after a few years of hearing Mike Stanton. And Swisher is a good player and I would love to have him but I’d rather keep Bourn.

Boogey_Down_Bronx
3 years 6 months ago

I dont see Swisher leaving the Yankees. As long as they offer him a reasonable contract, then he’s right where he wants to be. He said in an interview recently he wants to be a Yankee for the rest of his career

Stimz
3 years 6 months ago

The Braves have enough .250 hitters. They’re going to have money next off season and they better spend it. 

MB923
3 years 6 months ago

Swisher had a .374 OBP last year. The highest OBP by any player on the Braves (McCann) was .351

dylanp5030
3 years 6 months ago

Average is not everything. He gets on base.

3 years 6 months ago

I dont see what’s so great about Swisher…
Ethier would make the Yankees a better team.

3 years 6 months ago

There arent a whole lot better right fielders in the AL than Swisher….good OBP guy with power. Hes a real nice lower half of the order hitter to have

YanksFanSince78
3 years 6 months ago

Really?

Swish vs Eithier over the last 3 seasons
81 hrs vs 65 hrs
13.3 BB% vs 10.4 BB%
.368 OBP vs .364 OBP
+5.4 UZR vs -24.6 UZR
11 WAR vs 7.9

Away from home

.364 OBP vs .351 OBP
.512 Slug vs .410 Slug
.875 OPS vs .760 OPS

CowboyJames
3 years 6 months ago

Swisher is a fine player. Uggly and Swish would be 2 peas. Ladies of Atlanta beware!

$1519287
3 years 6 months ago

Swish is married to actress Joanna Garcia. 

– ECB

3 years 6 months ago

 Neither do many of the fans and number crunchers of the Braves organization.  Also, it’s coming from Jim Bowden.  Not really a great source.

California_RedBirds
3 years 6 months ago

He should just stick with Mike Stanton. Nobody is gonna remember…..wait was it again? I already forgot

rsanchez1
3 years 6 months ago

He should’ve thought about it before he became one of the hottest young hitters in baseball. He rose to prominence as Mike, and now he’s asking everyone to call him by his first name.

I’ll still call him Mike.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 6 months ago

Wait….no “His momma named him Clay imma call him Clay” references?

rsanchez1
3 years 6 months ago

No.

David X
3 years 6 months ago

If someone you knew asked you not to call him by the name other people called him, you’d respect that, right? So why do people feel they own their impressions of other people whom they have no contact with?

It’s a matter of simple human decency and respect to address or refer to other people the way they would like to be known as. Nothing more and nothing less.

cheez13
3 years 6 months ago

If you look at the FA’s for 2013, there are very few quality corner OF’s available. The only ones younger than Swisher (who ain’t a spring chicken) is Delmon Young, Ethier, Conor Jackson and Quentin..not much to pick from. Josh Hamilton too expensive, Ichiro will be 39.

And isn’t Bourn’s agent, Scott Boras? enough said.

NYBravosFan10
3 years 6 months ago

I have lost all trust in ESPN so I don’t buy this one bit. I’d love Swisher but my sights are set on Hamilton…yes, I just said Josh Hamilton.

Clayton Wilson
3 years 6 months ago

If Bourn walks, what do the Braves do with CF? I don’t want Hamilton in CF in any case…..

NYBravosFan10
3 years 6 months ago

Why not? How about LF?

Clayton Wilson
3 years 6 months ago

 I’d like him on a corner outfield spot at the right price, but I feel he’s going to be out of the Braves price-range. They’re more likely to trade for a cheaper impact bat rather than spend the off-season locking up one expensive player.

rundmc1981
3 years 6 months ago

TEX will have more than enough to re-sign him, even if he doesn’t give a hometown discount, like he said he wouldn’t do. The best thing he could be for ATL is a diversion, taking a big spender off the market for an OF. 

#1 Priority is re-signing Bourn. We most likely wouldn’t get compensatory picks because we wouldn’t offer arbitration to him (it’d be for a couple million more for what he’d be making if we re-signed him).

NYBravosFan10
3 years 6 months ago

if we resign McCann, Bourn and Andrelton Simmons pans out then I know one team who is going to pull off one heckuva trade involving Bethancourt, Lipka and Pastornicky

3 years 6 months ago

Lipka would be slated to take over in CF around the time Bourn’s new contract is set to expire (if he is actually re-signed to something in the ballpark of 4/$40 mil) so trading him makes absolutely no sense at all IMO.

rundmc1981
3 years 6 months ago

Did you see what Yadier Molina is re-signing for with STL? 5 years/$75M. So, there you have the basement for McCann’s contract. McCann is a vastly inferior catcher to Molina – who is considered to be the best defensive catcher in baseball – but McCann is vastly superior to Molina, who’s really had 1 good offensive season. I can’t see McCann getting less than $90M over the same 5 seasons, but I don’t know if ATL signs him for that long. 

I don’t think they should trade Bethancourt/Lipka. I don’t mind trading Pastornicky if Simmons builds on 2011, but that’s me.

Ryan Cothran
3 years 6 months ago

I hate to be the bearer of bad news guys, but the Braves aren’t going to have much money to work with in 2013.  There are too many arb-eligible players.  Nick Swisher would be, by far, the most expensive player the Braves will look at.  I think it’s folly if we sign Swisher and let Bourn walk.

roxfan51-54-4
3 years 6 months ago

I know he’s hispanic, but how do you go from Mike to Giancarlo (Ps Ndamukong Suh’s dad is named Mike) Just sayin haha

YanksFanSince78
3 years 6 months ago

Isn’t more like he went from Giancarlo to Mike? 

Will M
3 years 6 months ago

I’ll make it easier for all you white people, call him GC. 

bravessfan2014
3 years 6 months ago

in my opinion they should focus on keeping their own free agents bourn mccann etc rather than making a washed up washed out  ken griffey jr wannabe in nick swisher their top free agent priority..seems to me if the braves management knew what they were doing they would work harder to sign their own free agents rather than try to raid other teams to sign other teams free agents….or maybe thats why they finished second and third in the division the last 3 years because they went after other teams free agents rather than try to resign their own ie mccann and bourne

Clayton Wilson
3 years 6 months ago

2009 home: .226, .382, .394, 8 HR
2009 away: .268, .361, .585, 21 HR

2010 home: .287, .356, .498, 15 HR
2010 away: .289, .362, .523, 14 HR

2011 home: .273, .380, .473, 12 HR
2011 away: .248, .368, .425, 11 HR

I’m not big on Swisher, but he seems to hit fine away from Yankees Stadium.

Clayton Wilson
3 years 6 months ago

Ok, now it’s showing up…..

YanksFanSince78
3 years 6 months ago

Does it really matter? He hit 46 of his of his 81 hrs as a Yankee on the road.

I think Swisher is very underrated if that’s possible to say about a Yankee. He absolutely doesn’t deserve a mega deal but for 3/$36 I think he would be a good pickup.

rundmc1981
3 years 6 months ago

Mark Bowman has speculated that ATL would have about $38M available, and that’s after arbitration cases. I don’t see ATL still having Jurrjens, so you wouldn’t worry about that arb case.

NYBravosFan10
3 years 6 months ago

ever seen Mark Bowman? He may have gotten the amount of money he spends on the concession stands confused with the Braves available money for next offseason.

rundmc1981
3 years 6 months ago

Glad he’s a writer then.