Quick Hits: Padres, Luebke, Red Sox, Dodgers, Brewers

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thesultanofswingandmiss
3 years 4 months ago

Cesar Ceases the cut!

3 years 4 months ago

Face it Lucchino, karma caught up with you. Unfortunately you bad karma bit Carpenter in the elbow and lost him at least the 2012 season, but its still YOUR bad karma.

There is NOTHING you can do unless you can prove the Cubs knew the elbow was injured before you got him.

BAHAHAHAHA.

Havok9120
3 years 4 months ago

 I was born breathing Pinstripes and even I’m not enjoying this melodrama as much as you are.

I must not be sadistic enough.

ubercubsfan
3 years 4 months ago

Maybe Lucchino would be onto something if Carpenter never pitched at all in Spring Training for the Sox, but he did.  Suck it up and be a man about it.

MaineSox
3 years 4 months ago

From the Edes article – “Lucchino said ‘We assume everyone acted in good faith.'”

That doesn’t sound like someone who thinks the other team did something wrong, or, by extension, someone who thinks they have recourse with the other team, so I really have no idea what they are attempting to accomplish at this point.

BoSoxSam
3 years 4 months ago

All I can think of is that it seems like Boston was never happy getting Carpenter, and this is just giving them another reason to be annoyed. But really, they lost all leverage when they let Epstein go without FIRST confirming compensation. I’m annoyed too that all we got was a now-injured relief arm, but there’s nothing we can do about it so they need to move on.

Just a random by the by, anyone else starting to get irrationally optimistic for Boston’s year? Cause I sure am.

MaineSox
3 years 4 months ago

I think they got better compensation than most people expected them to (even after hearing about Carpenter’s surgery), but you’re right that they don’t seem to be happy about it (particularly Lucchino).

I’m always optimistic about the Red Sox, but I don’t think I’m ever irrationally so.  Obviously if you expect some absurd win total you are being irrationally optimistic, but there really is good reason to be optimistic about this team despite what the detractors (both Red Sox fans and non Red Sox fans) would have you believe.

johnsilver
3 years 4 months ago

 Carpenter still had a major upside and still does after the surgery. It’s not like they were going to get one of the few crown jewels the cubs had anyway and am sort of glad they didn’t end up with someone like Vitters, who probably won’t end up as being more than a role player at best at the MLB level and Boston can sign more Repco/Ciriaco’s of the world to fill the AAAA type void that every team seems to fill their AAA teams up with.

I was glad they at least selected a player with a major upside, even one who was 26YO and needed probably a new organization and pitching coaches to work with.

BranchRickeysGhost
3 years 4 months ago

You really should double check those links guys.  They may have the same name, but the two Chris Carpenters are nothing alike so it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to tell them apart.

Havok9120
3 years 4 months ago

Going strictly by the links, as you suggest, tells me that we are, in fact, talking about the injured Cardinal’s ace Chris Carpenter.

Ironic mockery is ironic.

BranchRickeysGhost
3 years 4 months ago

The ironic mockery is that I was mocking MLBTR for mis-linking, not the commenters.

BoSoXaddict
3 years 4 months ago

Larry is just embarassing himself and the organization at this point with this whole “weighing their options” nonsense. The Red Sox PICKED Carpenter from a list of eligible prospects and had full access to his medicals. It’s not like the Cubs tried to “sell” him to them knowing he was hurt. It was an unlucky turn of events. He probably wasn’t going to contribute to the team this year anyways. MOVE ON. If I have to read any more about it I’m gonna kill myself.

mojowo11
3 years 4 months ago

Article links to the wrong Carpenter’s B-R page, fwiw.

NYPOTENCE
3 years 4 months ago

Boston should have never expected much anyways. They got a player for a GM andnow they should be happy.

jed_hoyer
3 years 4 months ago

no team should be able to even negotiate with another teams employees.the compensation thing is the leagues way of stopping it. the red sox should have gotten a lot more than carpenter

Adam D
3 years 4 months ago

If I was a Sox fan, I’d already be questioning the leadership of Cherington. 

MaineSox
3 years 4 months ago

 What does Cherington have to do with it?

Adam D
3 years 4 months ago

 No, they shouldn’t have. I’ve got a feeling this isn’t the real Jed Hoyer.

BitLocker
3 years 4 months ago

I guess I now know why they are called bawwwwwston.

jb226
3 years 4 months ago

Exploring the team’s options?  I can help you out there, Larry.

Your options are to suck it up, or cry about it.

See how much time I saved you?  I’d be an amazing front-office addition don’t you think?

Mike1L
3 years 4 months ago

I’m not sure I understand the Red Sox position.  Apparently they looked at Carpenter’s medical records and examined him before finalizing the deal.  If Bud allows (or mandates) this, do the Yankees get a do-over on the Montero for Pineda deal, because apparently Pineda needs an MRI on his shoulder?  This sort of stuff happens quite a lot.  It’s really unfortunate. You hate to see anyone injured-but absent some gross cover-up, I think there’s no way that you can do transaction with a ninety day money back guarantee.   

johnsilver
3 years 4 months ago

“I think there’s no way that you can do transaction with a ninety day money back guarantee.”

They can always litigate, take a page out of the union handbook.. maybe get Robert Shapiro, since Johnnie Cochrane isn’t taking calls anymore.

Mike1L
3 years 4 months ago

I like that idea.  Maybe we extend that to the games themselves when a call doesn’t go their way.  Instead of having just instant replay, you have a judge as well as on-site lawyers.  The parties would prepare briefs, make arguments, etc.  Maybe a little open-air courtroom down the left field line?

ellisburks
3 years 4 months ago

Maybe Jackie Chiles will take the case?

3 years 4 months ago

It was a promotion, there never should have been any compensation to begin with.  Karma for Lucchino.

thesultanofswingandmiss
3 years 4 months ago

I don’t happen to follow the cubs or the res sox so how is the CARDINALS pitcher Chris Carpenter involved? (I’m probably missing something)

johnsilver
3 years 4 months ago

 No.. That one just gets keep getting linked.

The Red Sox received a 26YO RH pitcher who throws 95-100mph, but pretty much has nothing else and is wild much of the time..

IOW? he is a true diamond in the rough that is need of extensive polishing to be a gem.

I am happy and just ready for these naggy NE media to take a hike and go find some new Kerry Yacht story to write about, or maybe start digging up dirt on their sacred cows..The kennedy’s for a change.

bosox21
3 years 4 months ago

Totally agreed. The Red Sox have pretty much been a laughingstock since September, and I think most of the fans here are pretty sick of this. They botched this whole process from the begining and have nobody to blame but themselves. MOVE ON BEN.