Poll: Trading Carlos Gonzalez

The Rockies have baseball’s third worst record at 27-44 because they have the game’s least effective pitching staff, a crew that has allowed an average of 5.7 runs per game. Offseason pickup Jeremy Guthrie (6.34 ERA) has been both hurt and ineffective, ditto both Jhoulys Chacin (7.30 ERA) and Juan Nicasio (5.28 ERA). Jamie Moyer‘s feel-good story came to an unceremonious end when he was released after pitching to a 5.70 ERA.

Last weekend, Joel Sherman of The New York Post opined that Colorado should consider trading outfielder Carlos Gonzalez for prospects while noting there is no indication that he is actually available. Troy Renck of The Denver Post countered today by saying CarGo is simply too young, too good, and too affordable to trade. The 26-year-old has hit .328/.385/.604 this season and is under contract for approximately $73.5MM through 2017.

Players like Gonzalez don’t getting traded very often, but it’s safe to say he would command a monster package. The number of teams that both have a need in the outfield as well as the young players to swing a deal is limited, but the Rockies will surely find suitors if they put one of their two superstar hitters on the market.


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165 Comments on "Poll: Trading Carlos Gonzalez"


BoSoxCurseBreaker
3 years 2 months ago

I see the Nationals as an excellent fit. They have the pieces to swing a deal — and an absolute need for a top-notch CF.

dylanp5030
3 years 2 months ago

They don’t have the pieces to swing this deal. Assuming Harper and Strass are obviously untouchable, Rendon will not interest the Rockies (since they have an even better 3B prospect), and they traded their next best pitchers in AJ Cole and Brad Peacock. Not to mention Purke has about zero value because he can’t stay healthy.

What do they have that would interest the Rockies?

Jason Richards
3 years 2 months ago

Zimmerman plus some low A prospects…..

BoSoxCurseBreaker
3 years 2 months ago

Yes, Zimmerman (or Zimmermann — either one) would be a start. Maybe, Storen? And then some prospects. Call me crazy, but I see Washington having the resources, the potential need, and the desire to make a splash (the pitching is an obvious strength). They keep being tied to BJ Upton, for example, but Gonzalez is a much bigger catch.

imachainsaw
3 years 2 months ago

you are crazy, that’s for sure.
“hey let’s trade for a worse and way more injury prone player
brilliant!”

if you think that’s the conversation going on in colorado….

LazerTown
3 years 2 months ago

LOL, zimmermann is a stud.  Go look at car-goz road splits.  Washington would be crazy to swing that deal.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 2 months ago

Why in the world would the Nats trade CarGo and accept anything less than someone like Strass or Gio Gonzalez? He’s young, super talented and signed thru 2017 at an average of $12.6 per. The idea is NOT that they are rebuilding but that inorder for them to compete they need to get better pitching and I would imagine that they would want bonafide proven mlb pitching and not prospects as someone else further down suggested.

dylanp5030
3 years 2 months ago

Nats wouldn’t be trading CarGo

Matt_P102
3 years 2 months ago

Certainly building a deal around JZimm would work but I can’t imagine the Nats doing that.

Maybe they could trade one of Desmond/Espy, one of Goodwin/Meyer, Detwiler, Clippard and Morse?

Natsfan89
3 years 2 months ago

No

As a Nats fan I’d be more interested in Dexter Fowler

Matt_P102
3 years 2 months ago

Fowler has only had one good year(this one). Without more offensive talent, the Nats may well waste a world series caliber rotation and bullpen.

Natsfan89
3 years 2 months ago

Well for one the world series caliber bullpen and rotation (with the exception of Edwin Jackson) is locked up for a few years.

One guy isn’t going to fix the Nats offensive woes and that trade you proposed hurts them more than helps

3 years 2 months ago

His numbers away from Denver are okay but not that great. So no team expect him to keep up what he is doing. So that might make the package not as good as people think.

LazerTown
3 years 2 months ago

He is not good on the road, .320 obp and 1/2 # hr

Easy to find a player that can produce that level.

Ryan Cothran
3 years 2 months ago

CarGo is an awesome player, but I would be terrified of this:

Splits: Home- 1.015 OPS  Away-.753 OPS

There’s no denying a .250 point difference in OPS.  He’s a product of Coors field and would be an extreme risk for any ballclub to sell their farm for his service.

PClark91
3 years 2 months ago

Phillies will get him.

Steelslayer
3 years 2 months ago

I guess they will use the prospects from their highly vaunted minor league system.  Any suggestions….?

3 years 2 months ago

 The only thing the Phillies will be getting at this trading deadline will be prospects for hamels and others.

3 years 2 months ago

 He’s too young.

dylanp5030
3 years 2 months ago

How could the Phillies manage this? I’m sure we can offer Blanton, Kendrick, Polanco, and Thome…but for some reason, I don’t think that will be enough. Darn.

chrismichael
3 years 2 months ago

you never really know. Phillies have a couple of pieces that some teams might be interested in (Vance Worley, Galvis, Cliff Lee if the team could afford him, or Cole Hamels if they could extend/sign him).

You also never know how a three team deal could work out…Phils still have some prospects that are attractive as main pieces in a deal (May, Biddle, DeFratus, Valle), some pieces that are middle of the road, “tools” players (Dom Brown, Philipe Aumont, Tyson Gillies, Freddy Galvis) and some others that are little more than throw ins to complete the deal (Cody Overbeck, Darin Ruf, Harold Martinez).

dylanp5030
3 years 2 months ago

May and Biddle are the only two pieces… And they aren’t centerpieces. The Rockies need a top 15 prospect for sure for him.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 2 months ago

A Hamels for CarGo deal w/ an extension signed by Hamels prior to a trade is the most logical suggestion I’ve heard today. I don’t think Hamels would sign but it would make sense for the teams to discuss and put it in front of him.

phillyphan26
3 years 2 months ago

The only package that would even come close would have to include at least two of May, Pettibone, Biddle,Cloyd and would probably have to include Brown to simply replace CarGo in the outfield and maybe he figures it out in CO.  As much as I’d love for that to happen it won’t.  Too far out, too much risk and system is already pretty much bare at least at the higher levels.  nice to dream though. 

3 years 2 months ago

The Phillies will not get him. Prospects? No, they don’t have any real blue chip prospects that would make the Rockies excited. The closest thing is Biddle, and he’s still a few years away. Victorino/Galvis/Worley are not good enough either to swing a deal. The only piece they could trade is Hamels, and the Rockies would probably not want him because they wouldn’t be able to sign him after the year. CarGo to the Phils is simply a dream, :(.

GoRav114
3 years 2 months ago

Orioles have Machado, Tillman, and Avery they could give up for him.  High rated prospect, major league ready pitcher, and a triple A prospect. 

3 years 2 months ago

1st CarGo is a “Boras” Type, so that is strike one
2nd CarGo is a “Boras” Type, so that is strike two
3rd CarGo is a “Boras” Type, so that is strike three

I don’t care if he has a long-term contract, he is a Boras type.
Plus, I don’t think the Rockies are going to trade anyone anytime soon.
O’Dowd’s job probable is on the firing line and if he traded CarGo, the remaining Rockie fans would be a bit upset!

Jason_F
3 years 2 months ago

You do realize that CarGo is signed through 2017 and they likely wouldn’t have to even speak a word to Boras until then, right?  Getting maximum value for him right now might be the thing that Colorado needs to get back to the contender ranks quicker than they would otherwise.  That pitching staff is a train wreck.  That said, I’m not sure Tillman is nearly enough in the way of pitching to get back in a deal for CarGo.

3 years 2 months ago

I would rather do a deal with the Royals for Francoeur.
I think that would be a better gamble and the O’s wouldn’t be gambling away their future.

Lunchbox45
3 years 2 months ago

swing and a miss

3 years 2 months ago

Hahaha, the Blue Jays can trade for him then!

Lunchbox45
3 years 2 months ago

no thanks!

Jason Richards
3 years 2 months ago

Machado is not going anywhere, Tillman and Avery for Carlos Gonzalez? Nope.

Rangersalchamps
3 years 2 months ago

I hope the Rockies keep him, a 3-4 of him and Tulo is great.

IF they do decide to trade him I could see the Rangers being in on him. Much cheaper replacement for Hamiliton when Hamiliton walks after this season. Something like a Profar, Olt, Harrison, package would intrigue the Rockies. If they want more pitching replace Olt with someone Perez.

Patrick Beliveau
3 years 2 months ago

why would Profar intrigue them when they have Tulo locked up, and have Story in the minors. Olt is most likely sticking at 3rd, but he’s not as good as Arenado and Harrison… really? he’s no better than what they have now… 

Rangersalchamps
3 years 2 months ago

Profar is the #1 prospect in baseball.. Dude super talented
A. Move him to 2nd
B. Flip him to someone else, elite SS talents are highly coveted

Olt can play 1st base.. Replacement for Helton?
Harrison is a good #2/3, rocks could use his type of arm
We have plenty of high talent arms in the minors that the Rockies can choose from.

Overall that’s a good package maybe add a couple pieces.

TheLastPirateFan
3 years 2 months ago

I did see a Rockies scout a Gerrit Cole’s debut

dylanp5030
3 years 2 months ago

I think they shoud listen if someone offers a top 15 prospect, a top 50 prospect (that are AA or higher) and a couple other top prospects (51-150).

dylanp5030
3 years 2 months ago

His splits would scare me if I was a GM though.

Matty
3 years 2 months ago

Cargo in left with Rasmus and Bautista.  Jays have tons of pitching prospects and most of the A ball guys have huge upside to get a deal done.  Jays then can trade Snider etc. to replenish some of what they gave up in pitching prospects.

dylanp5030
3 years 2 months ago

That’d be awesome. Could you imagine Gose, Rasmus, and Cargo with Bautista at 1B, Lawrie at 3B, EE at DH. That line-up would be crazy!

They could trade D’Arnaud for him too, which would def. interest the Rockies.

Jacob Viets
3 years 2 months ago

No, he wouldn’t they already have a potentially great Catcher at the Major League level in Wilin Rosario.

dylanp5030
3 years 2 months ago

Forgot bout him.

Lunchbox45
3 years 2 months ago

trade pitching for  offense??pretty sure jays need to keep whatever pitching they have and need to trade offense for more help.

On a list of priorities to make the Jays better, a new outfielder is probably dead last.

hurley55
3 years 2 months ago

I’d rather put Snider in LF for league minimum and save our pitching prospects.  One of Nicolino/Sanchez/Syndergaard is going to be an absolute beast, but no one is sure who it is yet.

dasox313
3 years 2 months ago

Scary outfield and lineup, even more than now. The Blue Jays are going to make a monster splash one of these days and I don’t think the league will be ready for them when they do.

Matty
3 years 2 months ago

Nicolino, Syndergarrd, Mcguire and Jenkins

Lunchbox45
3 years 2 months ago

3 starting pitchers go down in a week and jays fans want to trade 4 minor league starters for an outfielder with suspect splits.

o dear

raffish
3 years 2 months ago

Those are the wrong pitchers.  Think better ones.

3 years 2 months ago

Tabata, Taillon, Marte, and Heredia

Greatone1210
3 years 2 months ago

Like this trade except for Heredia. Send them Locke or Owens and I’d be okay. Not worth two top pitching prospects.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 2 months ago

I think they would prefer as close to a sure thing (COle) as possible.

raffish
3 years 2 months ago

some nice prospects but a lot of risk for Colorado.

3 years 2 months ago

How about the Indians? They need outfield help and have a gold mine in Columbus. Maybe a deal sending David Huff, Scott Barnes, Trevor Crowe, and Chris Perez.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 2 months ago

…..cricket…cricket….cricket…the sound is scary.

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

I’d see a team like the Orioles get him…who want to still contend come September/October…I’m a Red Sox fan, no chance at all after the Gonzo trade

celsius 232.8
3 years 2 months ago

Who knows how bad their pitching really is, or how effective CarGo really is?  The ballpark severely distorts statistics, resulting in Colorado’s batters being consistently overrated and their pitchers being consistently underrated.

chrismichael
3 years 2 months ago

Sherman did suggest that the monster deal would have to be similar to the way that the early 90’s Dallas Cowboys built their franchise after trading Herschel Walker to the Vikings.  Maybe Hextall, Huffman, Forsberg, Duschene and others for the rights to Eric Lindros.  You get the picture.

ChefR
3 years 2 months ago

What happened to all those pitchers Ubaldo was shipped away for?

rundmc1981
3 years 2 months ago

Still on the fringe. Pomeranz, Alex White and 2 others.

RBIBaseball
3 years 2 months ago

They should trade him and get max value in return. This franchise was once promising but the likes of Jim Tracey and Dan O’Dowd have ruined it. Time to rebuild.

Lunchbox45
3 years 2 months ago

the players havent lived up to their end of the bargain either.

RBIBaseball
3 years 2 months ago

True, they’ve had a lot of busts in terms of prospects. However, when you have a manager as bad as Jim Tracey, you are going to lose more games. If the rockies have a different manager, they would have a better record right now. Look at the Orioles and Buck Showalter for an example or Joe Maddon and the Rays for teams that have limited talent but still manage to win.

Lunchbox45
3 years 2 months ago

Nationals make the most sense

3 years 2 months ago

I’m sure many people voted yes only because they saw how sweet it would be for CarGo to be playing with their team. But, in reality, it’s a stupid idea for the Rockies to entertain the thought of trading Gonzalez. You still have stands to fill at Coors and trading your best player is sure to cause revenue to dry up. The Rockies are a fragile team but they are one that can turn it around at a moments notice.

Now if some team wants to wave four can’t miss pitching studs at the Rockies, they might do that deal but, otherwise, it’s not going to happen.

Jason Richards
3 years 2 months ago

If im the Yankees i do this in a second. Nova plus mason williams and a project like jose ramirez would be a good deal. Or Maybe San francisco with a package headlined by bumgarner. Either way the rockies need pitching bad.

raffish
3 years 2 months ago

wow.  are you sure the yankees would give up that much?

fuster
3 years 2 months ago

the Yankees could and would trade Williams, two or three solid pitching prospects and more. maybe even Nova….or without Nova, they might well be willing to send Gardner rather than Williams.

3 years 2 months ago

sorry.  I was being sarcastic.  Obviously it would take much more than what Jason Richards proposed.

rundmc1981
3 years 2 months ago

Yes, SF needs offense, but giving an affordable arm like Bumgarner to a divisional foe? That’s awfully risky for a team not 2 years removed from a championship and having to decide on Lincecum soon. CarGo isn’t a sure-thing in that ballpark – who is?

NOT KIDDING
3 years 2 months ago

 Do the Yankees really need another outfielder that badly?  Who replaces Nova in this scenario?  Given how cheap Nova is, I think they’ll probably stick with what they have on the field. 

fuster
3 years 2 months ago

Nova would be replaced by Pineda and Banuelos next year, with Phelps and Freddy Garcia filling in the short term….though I wouldn’t be all that surprised if the Brewers make Greinke available for rent at the deadline

YanksFanSince78
3 years 2 months ago

Yankees need pitching a lot more than they need hitting so….no. As for the Giants, I don’t see either team trading with each other for such a high profile deal in their own division.