Red Sox Intend To Dismiss Bobby Valentine

As expected, Red Sox upper management intends to dismiss Bobby Valentine once the season ends, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reports. The firing is expected to take place soon after the regular season ends and could occur Thursday or Friday. GM Ben Cherington declined to comment on the matter, Heyman reports.

It's been widely expected that the Red Sox will dismiss Valentine following the regular season. Blue Jays manager John Farrell appears to be a top target of Boston's front office executives. The Red Sox enter the final game of the season with a 69-92 record, having lost 90 games for the first time since 1966. 

Valentine told reporters today that he "had every opportunity to succeed and didn't," according to Jack Curry of the YES Network (Twitter links). The manager also said he regrets commenting about Kevin Youkilis' engagement level early in the season.


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64 Comments on "Red Sox Intend To Dismiss Bobby Valentine"


2 years 10 months ago

As a Braves fan, I am glad that this curse has been released from the Red Sox

Mike H
2 years 10 months ago

And so Bobby V is left to roam the earth once again, hungering for new teams whose lifeblood he can suck dry.

redsox4434
2 years 10 months ago

Wow. I’m shocked. Seriously. No one expected this. I can’t believe they would fire him.

withpower
2 years 10 months ago

He ought to throw everyone under the bus on his way out.

sourbob
2 years 10 months ago

He’s Bobby Valentine. Does he ever do it any other way?

MaineSox
2 years 10 months ago

I’m sure there will be plenty of that going on from all angles; everyone involved is pretty good at doing just that.

johnsilver
2 years 10 months ago

Not like Billy Martin.. Maybe Valentine should start hammering away on the team owner’s personal and criminal (henry doesn’t have one) background like Martin used to every time Martin would get himself tore up drunk, then fired.

$3534462
2 years 10 months ago

Thursday or Friday? I wouldn’t be surprised to see them waiting in the dugout to fire him right after last pitch

Jasper
2 years 10 months ago

I dislike Bobby V. as much as the next guy.. but that team needs a lot more fixing than just getting rid of the manager.

Tko11
Tko11
2 years 10 months ago

Now it does, prior to the big Dodgers trade it was basically the same 90 win team from a year ago. They overreacted about the collapse and paid for it with this disappointing season. The Braves are a perfect example of how the Red Sox should have reacted. There is nothing wrong with having a manager that has close relationships with players(like Francona was). The problem is when you have a manager like Bobby who for the most part created a wall between himself and the players which is why they gave up later in the year. That said, I do agree with the trade because the season was lost at that point and they got really lucky that the Dodgers were willing to take all that salary.

dieharddodgerfan
2 years 10 months ago

I understand dealing Beckett, but dealing Gonzalez, Crawford and Youkilis just to show you support Valentine was wrong.

I doubt the Red Sox are going to find a good replacement for Gonzalez and I think they gave up too early on Crawford.

Under the current CBA, teams are basically capped on what they can spend on the draft and international free agent market.

The only real way to gain a competitive advantage in through free agency (which is what the players really wanted).

So the Red Sox saved a bunch of money, but now are faced with a weak market to spend that money in.

In the past, they could use some of that savings to sign draft picks or international free agents, but not any more.

johnsilver
2 years 10 months ago

I would not doubt what the Sox can do, even with a post CBA Rule 4 draft in place. They have done as well as any team not named Tampa bay over the last 10 seasons in June, yet have been drafting in spots 20-30 on a yearly basis and not every prospect has been those overslot variety either.

Having one of the best scouting and minor league infrastructures already in place has helped tremendously, it’s why teams came and took away their people with ‘promotions” in different organizations. Now they even are adding Eddie Bane.

dieharddodgerfan
2 years 10 months ago

They may have a good scouting department, but they are still limited to a draft bonus pool for the draft and a cap on international free agent spending (I believe around $3 mill).

They are not going to be able to give big bonuses to late picks who had “signability issues” like in the past or spend big on bonuses to international free agents.

The playing field has been evened out pretty well in those avenues of acquiring talent.

Free agency is the one area that Boston can flex their financial muscle and this offseason the market actually looks very weak.

johnsilver
2 years 10 months ago

The IFA market Boston has not really spent heavily on period, other than Iglesias and *just* before the cap went into effect? Lin. Other than those 2? 1-1.5m was all the Henry-Epstein ran team gave to the top people. Boston preferred to get talent via *known* locales where you can trust ages, credentials, as in an athlete can play baseball, rather than just run 60yd dashes and hit BP etc..

Now.. If Japan is included.. Okajima, Matsuzaka and Tazawa would be included in the above list.

The 2.7m cap *think* all teams were limimited to in the 2012-next July actually changes the rest of the years of the current CBA and it’s based on a team’s overall record. Not going to go look it up, but pretty sure that hard figure for every team being the same is *only* for year 1.

Tko11
Tko11
2 years 10 months ago

I dont think those moves had anything to do with Valentine. I think Cherington saw a chance to unload a bad contract and he did just that. Obviously it cost the Sox Gonzalez but there were many concerns about his loss of power. Youkilis is a player in decline and the Sox had Middlebrooks who was tearing it up with no place to put him so I think that trade was a no brainer. I do think they could have gotten more for Youkilis though.

I think Cherington figured that the money the team had already lost on Crawford was enough that keeping him around wouldnt make that difference up.
They dont need to replace Gonzalez, they just need to stay healthy! Ellsbury, Middlebrooks and Ortiz provide plenty of offense when healthy and Middlebrooks is still improving.
The Red Sox do not need to spend all this free money now, I still believe that a core of Pedroia, Ellsbury, Middlebrooks, Ortiz (if they resign him) can provide enough offense for them.

dieharddodgerfan
2 years 10 months ago

I think if healthy that core is decent, but is in no way a juggernaut of a lineup. And the bigger issues are Ortiz’s age and also durability issues with Ellsbury.

IMO they do need to capably fill the holes left by AGon and Crawford and that’s goings to be hard to do on the open market.

If they can’t replace that production for next year AND upgrade their rotation then next year could be another difficult year no matter who the manager is.

Tko11
Tko11
2 years 10 months ago

Crawford barely had any value over the time he was here. So Im not sure why they need to find a replacement for him. Ortiz’s age is an issue but he was one of the best hitters in baseball this year until he got injured. Ellsbury is a great player, hes just unlucky with all these injuries. I think if Middlebrooks can improve that in many ways balances out Agon. Middlebrooks actually has more power at this point. They do need to upgrade their rotation but the problem is that they already have 4 starters in Lester, Buchholz, Doubront and Lackey. They dont need an allstar at every position just look at the Orioles and Athletics this past year. It has a lot to do with the manager.

MaineSox
2 years 10 months ago

With tens of millions of dollars to spend and multiple open positions I’m sure they’ll be doing more than just replacing the manager.

umair56
2 years 10 months ago

True, the Red Sox are a bad team with or without Bobby V but its still a problem that needs to be addressed.

2 years 10 months ago

@ keith… in the Crawford, Beckett Gonzo deal… they got rid of over a quarter BILLION in bad contracts… Hated to see Gonzo go, but he is not the player he was with the Padres. I am a lifelong Sox fan..and Bobby V should NEVER have been hired… now he is saying coaches undermined him etc etc… He bad mouthed Youk out of town who was nothing but a warrior… he bad mouthed just about everyone else… I for one will help him pack…. as far as the 1.2 year collapse…it is EVERYONE’S fault, Theo…ownership, Tito, the players…and Bobby V….

withpower
2 years 10 months ago

The Youkilis situation was handled poorly, and Youkilis was able to find his power stroke over on the South Side, but Will Middlebrooks was both ready for the show and a better player than Kevin Youkilis.

I guess you can blame Bobby for noticing the obvious on that one.

Frank Tangorra
2 years 10 months ago

Bobby will never manage again. He just doesn’t know when to keep his mouth shut. And yes the Red Sox are in a lot of trouble.

Devern Hansack
2 years 10 months ago

Best day ever.

hawkny1
2 years 10 months ago

Who is Heyman’s source on this story….? Or, is this mere speculation…ie…taking license with the truth to beat the local sports writers before anything happens, if it happens.

notsureifsrs
2 years 10 months ago

you are in such serious denial

Phillies_Aces35
2 years 10 months ago

I don’t think he was as physically or emotionally into the game as he has been in the past for some reason.

wickedkevin
2 years 10 months ago

-Kevin Youkilis

East Coast Bias
2 years 10 months ago

Brilliant.

notsureifsrs
2 years 10 months ago

encore

iheartyourfart
2 years 10 months ago

between this and the “Dodgers Prepared to Spend” headline, it has been a shocking final week of the season.

Shane McMahon
2 years 10 months ago

They should fire the whole team for the way they’ve rolled over against the Yankees these last 2 games…..

MaineSox
2 years 10 months ago

They haven’t “rolled over,” there’s simply not enough talent on the team right now to beat the Yankees.

johnsilver
2 years 10 months ago

Been trying to tell ppl all day when Pedroia and Ells are not in the lineup now.. Salty is the ONLY guy who has got 250AB this year on the field for them and Pedey has a broken finger trying to play last night..

JUST how well are the PawSox they are down to supposed to be playing??

Tko11
Tko11
2 years 10 months ago

I was at the game on Monday, the lineup that was put out there was pathetic… I dont think there was one guy who had an average over .300. Like 4 or more of the starters had averages that made the Mendoza line look good. To top it all off Clay allowed 9 runs in the second inning. Yeah so it was quite hard to sit there watching that bashing.

Slopeboy
2 years 10 months ago

You mean last week don’t you? I’ve never heard of a team taking 12 innings to “roll over”.

Shane_McMahon
2 years 10 months ago

My bad….should have said “the way they’ve played all season “…..could have knocked their biggest rival into a wild card seed and they’ve barely showed up.

Remember what the Orioles did to the Sox last year?

sourbob
2 years 10 months ago

Alternate headline: Guy Everyone Knew Was Getting Fired Is Getting Fired; Regrets Stuff That Got Him Fired

Rob Lucci
2 years 10 months ago

It’s back to Baseball Tonight for ol Bobby V.

Bob Bunker
2 years 10 months ago

please no john farrel. New guy

Matt George
2 years 10 months ago

I would not be shocked to see him end up in South Beach.

Devon Henry
2 years 10 months ago

I wonder if we will get to see Tito and Bobby V both with ESPN, thatd be enternaining.

Karkat
2 years 10 months ago

You don’t say!

Karkat
2 years 10 months ago

They really need to get away from this Farrell thing. Get someone else. Get a former Red Sox player. Get Dwight Evans. Convince Jason Varitek. Don’t do some drawn out thing with Toronto where we have to give them a player who’ll help beat us.

iamsynecdoche
2 years 10 months ago

I just want them to actually do their due diligence and hire the best man for the job, rather than a guy who has a name or who reminds them of happier days.

2 years 10 months ago

Can we PLEASE finally put to rest the ridiculous, completely unfounded myth that Bobby V is a good manager?