Yankees, Marlins Had Preliminary A-Rod Talks

THURSDAY: Marlins president David Samson told Joe Frisaro of MLB.com that there have been "no conversations between the Yankees and the Marlins.”

WEDNESDAY: Earlier today, Yankees General Manager Brian Cashman shot down a report from Keith Olbermann which indicated that the club has talked with the Marlins about a possible trade involving Alex Rodriguez.  However, Yankees president Randy Levine and Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria have in fact had a casual conversation about relocating the embattled third baseman to Miami, a source tells Wallace Matthews and Andrew Marchand of ESPNNewYork.com

It should be noted that the conversation first began in a "joking" fashion according to the report, which would indicate that any talks between the two sides are in an embryonic stage.  However, the source believes that the chat could develop into serious trade talks this winter.  Loria reportedly said, "Alex is Mr. Miami, it would be great if he played here for us."  The Yankees president then responded, "You can have him."

A second source with knowledge of A-Rod's thinking said Miami is likely the only place that he would accept a trade to.  For his part, Levine refused to comment on the conversation with Loria in an interview with ESPN New York's Ian O'Connor and declined to speculate on Rodriguez's future with the Yanks beyond this year.  Rodriguez is owed $114MM over the next five years, not including potential bonuses for home run milestones.

It would not be unprecedented for Yankees brass to conduct business with limited involvement from Cashman.  Two years ago, the club brokered a substantial deal for reliever Rafael Soriano despite the GM's objections.


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109 Comments on "Yankees, Marlins Had Preliminary A-Rod Talks"


Mike H
2 years 10 months ago

As this girls-in-the-stands story keeps gaining traction it’s getting easier and easier to see the Yankees rationalizing paying half his salary or more to have him play somewhere else.

sarcasm_robot
2 years 10 months ago

only paying half would be the best case scenario for the yankees, i would think.

Shane J Peters
2 years 10 months ago

Personally, I’d keep him on, and bury him on the bench so long he retires early or makes his agents find a home where at least 40% of his contract goes with him. Forget Heath Bell.

jjs91
2 years 10 months ago

Why would you bury him on the bench after the yr he just had?

dieharddodgerfan
2 years 10 months ago

No one would take on half of A-Rod’s salary. The Yankees would have to eat at least 80% of the remaining contract for anyone to even be interested because I doubt anyone believes he will be able to play 5 more years.

I mean MAYBE an AL team that wants to DH him, but, again, it would be for a fraction of the value of ARod’s contract.

Hal_Jordan77
2 years 10 months ago

The Astros could use a DH, but there’s no way ARod would accept that even if (in the extremely unlikely event) that NYY and HOU worked out a deal between themselves.

LazerTown
2 years 10 months ago

Yankees better be getting back some decent prospects if they are eating 80%. He is still decent defensively, can hit 20-25 hr, and obp of .350. Not what he used to be, but he is still above average at 3B.

go_jays_go
2 years 10 months ago

Eating 80% of A-Rod’s salary only puts him slightly above market value. Put it this way: If A-Rod hit free agency this off-season, the best he could do is a 2 year deal worth around $15-$20m.

The 20% remaining of A-Rod’s current contract is 5yr/$24m. The $24m isn’t bad, but the length is too long. At best, the Yankees might get two B prospects for A-Rod, while eating 80% of the salary…

If the Yankees want to ‘save’ some money now, they should restructure his contract, something like 5yrs/$75m and a 10yr annuity

The annuity could be around $6m annually from 2020 – 2029. You might think $6m X 10years = $60m is an overpayment, but there is the issue of interest and deferred payments. It’s not too hard to find an actuary to work through some numbers.

I wonder if Selig & company would allow something like this to happen?

LazerTown
2 years 10 months ago

Selig would probably be fine with it, players assn would make a fuss if it is a pay downgrade. The fact of the matter is that then the yankees are looking at another decade of salary commitments, and since it goes by AAV, you are locking up almost $10M a year all the way till 2029 going towards luxury tax. I really don’t see that as being helpful, Yankees are much better off just getting the contract over with in the next 5 years.
Not a fan of them paying most of his salary anyways. He is definetely overpaid, but that barely helps them on the salary luxury tax, and could definetly hurt them, simply because who are they going to play at 3rd for less than $5M. It is the same situation that the sox faces when they dumped agon/Beckett/CC. Sure they dumped some overpaid players, but now they can forget about having good players at those 3 positions, especially with the empty free agent market.
If they can get away with paying less than half it’s good deal, but .350 obp/20-25 hr guy is above average and will help the team in the future.

go_jays_go
2 years 10 months ago

I partially made my suggestion because it helps lower the luxury tax.

The AAV would either be:
1) $120m spread out until 2029, which is $7m a year, OR
2) $15m/year until 2017 and $6m/year from 2020 till 2029

That’s a lot less than the current AAV, which is $27.5m a year.

LazerTown
2 years 10 months ago

Yea, I just think it’s terrible policy to allocate luxury tax money for 12 years after arod retires. $7M a year less that the yankees would have to work with for the next 20 years. Doesn’t sound like much, but thats a couple relievers or a position player. It is already painful enough, I just think it handcuffs them even more, just get it over with.

Meh Sheep
2 years 10 months ago

Why would Arod take deffered payments for what comes out to less money when factoring in inflation and lost interest on the money that is paid later? Also don’t forget the milestone bonuses.

go_jays_go
2 years 10 months ago

The milestone bonuses can stay.

Even after considering inflation (assuming 3% annually), the deferred payments are EQUAL to his current salary. The money just comes deferred.

Why might A-Rod consider it?
If A-Rod’s assets are frozen (due to fraud, scams, etc.), he will still receive the annual $6m. It’s basically changing the contract to include a 10year pension, while keeping the Present Value of money to be the same.

Slopeboy
2 years 10 months ago

@twitter-84411812:disqus

The thing that bothers me about the whole ‘hitting on the girls in the stands’ story, is that he again struck out!

thevauntedchris
2 years 10 months ago

Making deals without your GM involved is how they got into this mess. But in this case, it makes no sense….Cashman would be very much on board with this.

jjs91
2 years 10 months ago

Why would cashman be on board with tradin arod eating a large sum of his and taking on heath Bell?

thevauntedchris
2 years 10 months ago

I wasn’t even thinking about the Heath Bell aspect of it. I can’t believe Cashman, who is very rooted in numbers, would want Heath Bell for any reason. But they might just take back a bad contract to be done with it. The only reason Cashman would be on board with this, in a huge way, would be the team salary ramifications. If I understand correctly (AND I MAY NOT), I’m thinking his salary number comes off the books whether they pay a portion of it to another team or not. If that is the case, why in the world would Cashman not take what may be his only opportunity to unload a player he A) did not want to sign, B) Is almost 38 and in heavy decline, C) Is nowhere near worth what he is being paid for the next 5 years. AND THE MOST IMPORTANT…if the much publicized number of 189 million is what the Yankees HAVE to be under for luxury tax purposes, this is a huge way to become somewhat flexible in reshaping the roster and filling needs. Seems like a no brainer to me.

jjs91
2 years 10 months ago

A) Cash wanted to sign arod not at that money maybe but every gm wanted Arod. B) He’s decline is only relative to his legacy his numbers this yr werent bad. C) His worth is irrelevant in many ways especially if the yankees are paying for him anyway. D) im pretty sure hed still count toward the luxary tax.

thevauntedchris
2 years 10 months ago

D is the only one that would stop Cashman, IMO. If that is the case, it’s all a moot point. And C and D in your examples are tied together. I don’t think the Yankees care about eating the money as much as getting his salary off for luxury tax purposes. I would like to know this answer.
And his ability to stay healthy recently has made him pretty easy to replace if they had to. I think his struggles right now are more due to the broken wrist, but some people don’t come back from that. who knows

I kinda feel like you are arguing just to argue. Of course every GM would take arod for a million per year. That isn’t the point and that’s not the Yankees reality. So in this particular situation, under these particular circumstances, Cashman did not want to sign Arod

LazerTown
2 years 10 months ago

If they eat the money they still have to pay luxury tax on whatever they are paying. I really don’t see the point of trading arod unless you can get $14M a year off of the books. Problem with trading arod is then you need someone to fill 3b. Since he is still an above average 3B you need to make a trade to ship out several prospects just to get the same amount of production.

thevauntedchris
2 years 10 months ago

The 189 number is what they have to be under to matter, so if they could save that 14 million..i agree they probably do it. It’s all relative to what else they need to do and getting under 189..which is why we all have no idea

Douglas Bath
2 years 10 months ago

having numbers that “weren’t bad” is a low standard for a guy making 20+ million.

Vmmercan
2 years 10 months ago

Realistically, this makes sense if they can dump about 25-35% of his contract.

In other words, swap with Heath Bell means 114 million on the hook for A-Rod and 27 for Bell. I would have the Marlins take on 40 million+ more if I’m going to make a deal. They get a potential 20/100 guy for 8 million a season and the Yankees save 40 million off the contract. NY takes on 87 million and get a Soriano replacement (Robo setting up Rivera, Joba and Bell late inning guys), the Marlins take on 40 million and get a 3B who can produce in the lineup and draw a crowd.

johnsilver
2 years 10 months ago

They don’t allow a DH in the NL…

Rodriquez is stuck playing for some AL team, face it. He’s 37, losing range, losing bat speed and not going to be serviceable at all as a 3b for more than another year or 2. No team is going to take that salary and age, then figure in all those HR modifiers someone off of their rocker gave him at any price.

They wanted him as a NYY for life?? They got em…

Vmmercan
2 years 10 months ago

Oh trust me, I have no confidence whatsoever this rumor is going to come true. I’m just saying, there is no point to eating an entire salary to move somewhere elsewhere. A-Rod is not a clubhouse cancer and he’s presently better than a replacement. He also makes some sense on the Marlins for a bargain.

johnsilver
2 years 10 months ago

He would draw.. Have no doubts there.. I also think Manny Ramirez would have helped a few years back, but mr tight wallet himself wouldn’t pay a nickel of his salary.

DH in the NL and not as awful as it sounds, as long as something could be worked out over paying him.

crystomint
2 years 10 months ago

The Red Sox wanted a prospect who, at the time, was known as Mike Stanton. Luckily the Marlins knew he would go on to be an absolute beast now known as Giancarlo Stanton.

johnsilver
2 years 10 months ago

That wasn’t the holdup.. Just 1st name… Money was the holdup and everyone who can think knows it.

Loria was not willing to pay 1 dime of his salary.

Herewego27
2 years 10 months ago

Yeah, Manny for Stanton would have been a GREAT trade…

Rich Isler
2 years 10 months ago

Who has ever questioned Arods defense? It’s the strongest part of his game lately.

Shane J Peters
2 years 10 months ago

I like your thinking, but I still can’t see this going down. For one, would the Yankees be able to get Headley or plug in Bichette at 3B?

jjs91
2 years 10 months ago

No they wouldnt be able to plug a player who struggled in A ball into the majors. Most probably they would move jeter who is a terrible defender over, replace him at short. Meaning the yankees would downgrade at the ss position, their bp would be worse and now that jeter is a third baseman they probably downgraded at that position too.

dc21892
2 years 10 months ago

But Jeter is a gold glove winner!!! – sarcasm

MB923
2 years 10 months ago

It can’t be sarcasm if it’s true lol. He is in fact a gold glove winner. He just didn’t deserve them, except maybe in 09.

thevauntedchris
2 years 10 months ago

plug in bichette. lol..what??!?

vtadave
2 years 10 months ago

Let’s wait until Bichette can at least drink (legally).

crystomint
2 years 10 months ago

I think we’re all forgetting just how sweet the words “Future Yankee Heath Bell” would look together.

Paul Shailor
2 years 10 months ago

There is no way Loria pays more than 15 mil. Esp for Arod who is just a DH at this point.

elscorcho the marlin
2 years 10 months ago

there’s talk of him moving to 1st if it happens.

crystomint
2 years 10 months ago

I think there’s a little more truth to this deal than either side would be willing to admit at this point, the main reason being that it’s a little too early to confirm a deal of this magnitude. A year ago, the Marlins didn’t even admit to the logo design we all know and tolerate today. You think they’re going to say “yes, Bell to the Yankees for A-Rod is a done deal in principle”? What about the Yankees? They still have a playoff run in progress until they lose one more game (because, let’s face it, they’re not going to sweep the next 4 games against the Tigers). You think they’re going to fess up?

Guest
2 years 10 months ago

Olbermann’s report claimed Yanks would pay substantially all of $114m. At that price, I would have to imagine Marlins giving up a few decent prospects. Hard to speculate with trade terms without knowing specific dollar amounts. There also are the milestone bonuses of $30m.

A-Rod plus $100m for 3 of Marlins top 15 prospects? Marlins take on bonuses.

LifelongMets
2 years 10 months ago

I’m sure the Marlins would have to give up Yelich if the Yanks are going to pay that much.

davbee
2 years 10 months ago

The Marlins will have to give up next to nothing, even with the Yankees paying nearly all of A-Rod’s salary. It’s the Yankees who NEED to get rid of him, Florida could take or leave a deal. In trades the team that doesn’t have to make them are always in the strongest position. Big advantage to the Marlins.

jjs91
2 years 10 months ago

“It’s the Yankees who NEED to get rid of him” No they dont why would they need to get rid of him?

Herewego27
2 years 10 months ago

Because he isn’t hitting AT ALL, and he’s taking up about $25,000,000 in salary

thevauntedchris
2 years 10 months ago

but he does hit..it’s tough to point to a sample size of the 6 games he’s played in the postseason in a year where he broke his wrist midway through. If the Yankees move him, it won’t be because he isn’t a productive player in general

davbee
2 years 10 months ago

Let me count the ways….1) because he’s a distraction, 2) because he’s taking up a roster spot that could be given to a more productive player, 3) because he’s worn out his welcome, 4) because he’s fodder for negative Yankee press in the NY media, 5) because relations with Girardi are stained, because…

jjs91
2 years 10 months ago

He’s not a distraction if the media wants someone to blame they can blame him so what if he weren’t there Cano still wouldnt be hitting. Who is this more productive player you are referring to? He hasnt worn out his welcome. Arod gets negative attention for eating popcorn and going to photo shoots who cares what the media thinks it’s not a good reason to make a trade. The media is the only distraction here and that wont go away.

jjs91
2 years 10 months ago

Other distraction’s on the yankees include Swisher getting mad at fans blaming him for jeter’s injury. Swisher postseason play in general. Granderson swing in general, Cano lack of performance in whatever people consider clutch, Cano not reaching a grounder, being called lazy 60 times a year, Jeter’s lack of range, giradi fight with sherman, Giradi getting mad in Chicago, cashman’s stalker/mistress, Giradi using a binder, giradi not using a binder, rivera getting hurt in the of, joba playing with his kids, the dangers of a trampoline etc etc. If the yankees dont want distraction they should leave NY.

Stoibs
2 years 10 months ago

I’m not a Yankees fan and even I can see how silly this is. The Yankees don’t NEED to move Arod. I’m sure they would love to move him to free up payroll and get younger. The distraction sucks, but it’s not worth giving up a productive player and paying over 100 million just to be rid of him.The Yankees are not going to pay the majority of his salary. They would be better off keeping him around, and letting him ops around .800. He’s no longer an elite hitter, but he is still a productive one. The Pirates paid aroundhalf of Burnett’s contract and still gave up a couple players. Look at the Dodgers’ trade. The Dodgers took on nearly all the salary of four players and only one of them, Gonzales, is as productive as Arod. This trade will never happen, but if it did, I’d see the marlins taking on around 18 million per year over the next five years and the yankees getting some type of throw in player. At this price the Marlins gets a player that is still productive and will draw in fans! That is goal #1 for the Marlins and Arod would certainly help with that.

davbee
2 years 10 months ago

A) Alex isn’t terribly productive anymore. HIs OPS+ has gone from 123 in 2010, to 119 in 2011 to 112 last season. He’s trending in the wrong direction. B) Nobody is ever going to confuse the Marlins with the Dodgers.

Stoibs
2 years 10 months ago

I meant 15-18 million.

crystomint
2 years 10 months ago

If A-Rod is given one more chance to royally choke this offseason and does so, you can toss some desperation in the mix. Then, Bell/Ozuna/Realmuto/Jensen for A-Rod and a good chunk of money is possible.

Guest
2 years 10 months ago

For those of you who down voted my comment, he was valued at $9.8M by Rotoworld this season, $15M last season. Just because he is under performing doesn’t mean he’s not worth something of value, especially if the Yankees eat a large portion of his guaranteed salary.

LifelongMets
2 years 10 months ago

He won’t get those HR milestones playing in that Miami blimp hangar if he’s averaging 20 a year at the NY bandbox.

thevauntedchris
2 years 10 months ago

a righty doesn’t usually benefit much from playing in yankee stadium, ESPECIALLY one who doesn’t usually hit opposite field homeruns. Remember the talk years ago of it being harder for him to break the record if he went to the Yankees?

LifelongMets
2 years 10 months ago

Marlins Ballpark’s dimensions are just ridiculous compared to Yankee Stadium’s. It really takes a shot (or a regular Giancarlo Stanton HR) to get it out to left.

thevauntedchris
2 years 10 months ago

you are definitely right, but I was commenting on your “bandbox” statement since it’s really irrelevant for a guy like Arod anyway. Neither would be a great fit to pad homerun stats.

2 years 10 months ago

A-Rod for Ozuna and a some higher prospects.

Dynasty22
2 years 10 months ago

We should be happy if we could move him at all.

withpower
2 years 10 months ago

FanGraphs had Alex at 2.2 WAR, B-REF had him at 2.0. So I mean, going by the cost of a win NYY is looking at eating at least half the contract right off the bat.

His batting line has held reasonably steady as far as AVG/OBP go the last 3 seasons, but his drop off in WAR for 2012 from the holding pattern he was in from 2009-2011 is pretty noticeable. His K% ticked up about 3% and his ISO fell by almost 30 points from 2011. FanGraphs didn’t like his defense this year at all, but he’s gotten poor scores from them in previous years as well. Watching him this year I don’t think he looked that different to me in the way he handled himself around the bag.

Obviously he’s been injured more in recent years and I’m not sure how realistic it is to expect more than 120-130 games out of him at age 37. There might be a big season or two left in him but more likely I think he’ll be able to hover around an .800 OPS for a while longer. He’s certainly better right now than anyone Miami currently has at 3B.

LazerTown
2 years 10 months ago

He was playing regularly until he broke his hand. That hurts his WAR. Also that he had his 2nd worse uzr of the last 10 years, which hurts war, while usually 3 year span is a better indicator of their worth. The 10 WAR player he used to be is out of the question, but I don’t think it is ridiculous to think he could return to the 4 WAR years of 2009-2011.

Invaderbro
2 years 10 months ago

Whats with Miami and latin players?

Not going to lie tho that a nice little lineup the Marlins will have
1.Reyes 2.??? 3.Rodriguez 4.Stanton 5.Lee

Pick up a pitcher and thats a solid team, and they still have Ramirez money to get someone good

elscorcho the marlin
2 years 10 months ago

lee probably won’t be back. it will be lomo sliding in that line up.

thekidfromyesterday
2 years 10 months ago

The Marlins have the best trade talks

slyfox1908
2 years 10 months ago

And breathtakingly, Alfonso Soriano is STILL a Cub.

elscorcho the marlin
2 years 10 months ago

according to initial report, it would be bell going to new york and new york eating a rods salary.

withpower
2 years 10 months ago

I’d rather they just eat his salary.

jjs91
2 years 10 months ago

I rather they play the guy who had a 793 ops this yr…

thevauntedchris
2 years 10 months ago

once again, you are missing the forest for the trees. It’s not about just choosing the guy with the 793 ops. It’s about the guy you can’t sign or the trade you can’t make because you are paying a 793 ops player 27 million dollars and 20 plus for 5 more years. Who would do that if they could get out of it.

jjs91
2 years 10 months ago

Im not missing anything it’s just isnt a good idea to trade away a productive player, pay for him to play elsewhere unless it doesnt count toward the luxary tax which i never heard of it not.

thevauntedchris
2 years 10 months ago

Dude, I understand what you are doing in the comments. I agree with you on basically every level. You know, just like I do, that people hate on Arod far too much and he still is a productive player. You are playing devil’s advocate to the ridiculous comments where people just spout nonsense about someone that ESPN has convinced them they don’t like. I agree with everything you say about not paying him to play elsewhere. Remember, I’ve said I only think they do this if it helps the team’s salary books for luxury tax purposes. If it doesn’t, you and I agree on absolutely everything.

East Coast Bias
2 years 10 months ago

But you disagree on one thing. You think if they trade ARod, they can use that money to get another (and better) 3B right?

Problem is, who exactly is out there that they can get as a viable replacement for ARod? I honestly don’t see anyone in free agency or available via trade.

thevauntedchris
2 years 10 months ago

I don’t see where we disagree on that. No one has brought up if they could get a better third baseman. I’m talking about using part of that 27 million and beyond to fill holes all over the lineup, not necessarily just third base…making the team better with whatever is available and having the resources to do it with his money freed up. Whether people want to believe it or not, the Yankees have seemed to draw a hard line at 189. And with Cano needing to be locked up and a RF (and possibly CF) to replace, they are going to have to be very smart with their available money. Losing Arod helps that. No doubt.

For you or me…or anyone on here really…to make assumptions about who they could trade for is ridiculous. None of us have any idea, so that would be a complete waste of time and energy. Someone is always available. I understand people like to throw out trade suggestions, but I don’t.

East Coast Bias
2 years 10 months ago

Losing ARod helps… but it’s not smart at the cost of giving up a productive 3B for… Nunez?! Are you serious? Have you seen his defense? He won’t stick at SS, or 3B for that matter.

And yeah, most of us can figure out who is available in trade and who is not. It’s not really brain surgery if you follow baseball. It may not be exact, but it’s pretty close. But to say “none of us have any idea” is just comical.

The hard line at 189m for 2014 is real. But if you look at the numbers, you’ll see that we just have to trim approximately 20m. That can be done in a multiple of ways. Let me explain…

People coming off the books:
Jeter (-9m)
Mo (-15m)
Soriano (-14m)
Swisher (-10m)
Granderson (-13m)
Kuroda (-10m)
Martin (-8m)
Feliciano (-4m)

That’s a lot of money coming off the books, most of it we can replace with cheaper options. All this and adding ~5m a year to Cano’s new deal should easily allow us to stay within the 189m. No way Swisher is brought back. I wouldn’t bring Granderson back either. There are a few OF options in the minors that give me hope of working out. But even if we do need to spend on the OF, SPs, and bullpen help… it’s all possible with the money coming off the books. And we can stay within 189m. And it isnt necessary, at all, to give up ARod’s salary, which btw, drops to 25m in 2014, 21m in 2015, and 20m the last two years. Still way overpriced, but not as bad as the 30m he’s been getting.

thevauntedchris
2 years 10 months ago

i took out the nunez comment before you replied because I didn’t want to hear, “NUNEZ, ARE YOU SERIOUS, LOLZ!!!11!!” But honestly, the dude has to get better defensively with reps, I would hope.

And c’mon man, you and I both know players become available all the time that people didn’t hear too much on. Cashman does it all the time. That’s why people call him a ninja. Saying none of us had any idea is pretty accurate when it came to the swisher and granderson trades. Or the Teix signing. Following baseball or reading every post on this site didn’t help you with any of those transactions. That is Cashman’s MO.

And all those numbers are fine and everything, but the Yankees are never going to rebuild, unfortunately. So I can’t imagine they are cool with cheaper (and probably worse) options to replace all those positions. Why don’t you print out what you just wrote, and in 2014, let’s see if it all worked out like that. Being serious, not trying to argue. We root for the same team.

East Coast Bias
2 years 10 months ago

Nunez needs to be on the bench. I’m not going any more into that.

I understand what you’re saying about the availability thing, but for the most part, we can figure out who may be an option for trade. For example, Adrian Beltre is not available. Neither is Evan Longoria. On the other hand, Brewers’ 3B Cody Ransom is probably available. Chone Figgins, definitely. Get what I mean?

But yeah moving on…

I didn’t say that’s how it WILL work out. I’m just saying, there are many options to reduce the payroll and still have money left over to be a competitive team. I mean, that’s over 80 million coming off the books!!! If we cut payroll by 20m (from 209m right now) to get to 189m, and add the 5m for Cano’s longterm raise (20m/year), that still leaves 55m left for a few positions + arbitration raises. Maybe Cashman re-signs Grandy, or a big free agent SP, or trades for someone, or who knows what. My entire point was that moving ARod is not a necessity at all since a lot of money will already be coming off the books by 2014 anyway, and his salary will start shrinking from 2014 on. Hope that makes sense.

I don’t know if you follow the minor leagues, but you should check out Tyler Austin and Mason Williams. If all goes to plan, they’ll be manning RF and CF, respectively, by 2014.

Fingers crossed.

thevauntedchris
2 years 10 months ago

Yeah, I have big hopes for Mason and Tyler..but that’s a ways off. Then again, I also had big hopes for Austin Jackson and Jose Tabata. We see how that worked out.

jjs91
2 years 10 months ago

To be fair a joseph nunez platoon might not be terrible on offense but when we sent down nunez this year he was only allowed to play ss.

vtadave
2 years 10 months ago

Brandon Inge is a free agent. Thanks, I’m here all day.

thevauntedchris
2 years 10 months ago

amen

Let_My_Cameron_Go
2 years 10 months ago

The report I read was that Heath Bell was eating both salaries involved…

dc21892
2 years 10 months ago

Lmao

JacobyWanKenobi
2 years 10 months ago

You made me knock over my yogurt…

This is a serious matter, I had granola in it. Not cool man, not cool.

ARod's Ring
2 years 10 months ago

As a Yankees fan, this makes me sad. Arod has been one of the most misunderstood players I’ve seen. All this guy wants is to be treated like everyone else! they never criticize him along with the team. It’s always the Yankees offense, then ARod’s offense! I really hope he goes to the Marlins.

The New York Media is Hell.

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start_wearing_purple
2 years 10 months ago

Except when you’re expected to break records and be one of the top players of your age there’s no way you can be treated like everyone else. On top of that, remember the 2007 WS when he announced he was opting out of his contract. That doesn’t strike me as wanting to be like every other player.

NY Media is as rough and insane as NE Media, but from everything I’ve seen ARod has brought a lot of the dislike on himself.

ARod's Ring
2 years 10 months ago

NY Media called Jeter Greedy 2 years ago too…. but Saint Jeter is untouchable for some reason.

This is a business, players are constantly trying to make more money. Look at Mariano Rivera…. he’s not giving the Yankees any discount, he’s getting paid like an everyday positional player… Yet no one calls him greedy. Same with Posada, He didn’t give the Yankees no discount, he was getting paid a ton, and at one point almost went to the Mets.

He is not a perfect human being, he has a ton of flaws! but most of his criticism has been really unfair. Anything the guy does is HUGE news.

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start_wearing_purple
2 years 10 months ago

Jeter and Rivera are entirely different stories. Besides Jeter wanting more money he and Rivera have had relatively quiet careers. While they both have had plenty of media attention for their professional and personal lives neither has ever really rocked the boat the way ARod has. Fans who even dislike the yanks tend to find Jeter and Rivera to be respectable.

lefty177
2 years 10 months ago

I second this notion

jigokusabre
2 years 10 months ago

The Yankees would have to pick up about 75% of his contract for the deal to be worthwhile for the Marlins.

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start_wearing_purple
2 years 10 months ago

That still has the Marlins taking on about $28.5M or $5.7M a year and that’s not even counting in bonuses. Even if that yanks aren’t getting anything back of value it still seems like a high price for the Marlins to accept.

jigokusabre
2 years 10 months ago

$6 mil isn’t that bad for a 2-win player.

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start_wearing_purple
2 years 10 months ago

True but I tend to see the Marlins being cheaper than that.

Bill
2 years 10 months ago

Tell that to Heath Bell and Mark Beuhrle

Catztradamus
2 years 10 months ago

Hm… Lets see, to trade Arod, the yanks would need to find another big market team, desperate for a 3B, who have an equally albatrostic contract to shed.

ARod and 30mm for Ryan Howard.

Paul Shailor
2 years 10 months ago

Is it bad I could see that happening? Just have howard dh.

vtadave
2 years 10 months ago

Eh…I’m much more optimistic on Howard having something left in the tank than Arod…

LazerTown
2 years 10 months ago

I’d do that. They already got Teix, so Howard would probably DH. He struggled this year, but That lefty bat in YS is so tempting. Yankees would have to eat alot of money though, He is making $40M more if he hits the hr bonus.

lefty177
2 years 10 months ago

I thought he wanted Howard to move to 3rd? That would be amusing…for the opposing team

123Redsox
2 years 10 months ago

A-Rod to Boston lol he can DH an ive Middlebrooks a day off here and there

bigmike04
2 years 10 months ago

A-Rod & Ozzie together, Is HBO or ESPN now going to pay for the right to follow the miami marlins around for tv show.. Would be interested if that happen as A-rod came up short like Nick Swisher in playoff right now..

vtadave
2 years 10 months ago

In what universe is Keith Bleepin’ Olbermann a credible source?