Braves Close To Deal With Gavin Floyd

TODAY: A deal bringing Floyd to Atlanta could be completed tomorrow, ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick reports. Crasnick notes that Floyd hopes to be ready to throw MLB innings by May.

YESTERDAY: The Braves are close to a deal with free agent Gavin Floyd, according to David O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution (via Twitter).  While the two sides are nearing agreement, nothing has been finalized yet.

Yesterday, it was reported that Floyd was close to inking a deal with an unknown club.  Floyd missed most of the 2013 season after having Tommy John surgery in May.  In 168 innings with the White Sox in 2012, he posted a 4.29 ERA with 7.7 K/9 and 3.4 BB/9. 

The Orioles were among the clubs with interest in the right-hander, but they were ruled out yesterday.  The Twins also had interest back in November.

Floyd is represented by Moye Sports Associates, according to the MLBTR Agency Database.


126 Responses to Braves Close To Deal With Gavin Floyd Leave a Reply

  1. NYBravosFan10 2 years ago

    Nice!!!!! Always liked this guy.

  2. quadbravesfan 2 years ago

    If he’s healthy he’ll likely give you 80% of what Hudson would’ve for much less $

    • ray_derek 2 years ago

      I was thinking closer to 75%

      • Jeremy Russell 2 years ago

        If he’s healthy? He can be 110% of what Hudson would’ve been. But its a big if.

        • Yankees420 2 years ago

          What Gavin Floyd are you watching? The guy has posted a sub 4 ERA once in his career and a sub 3.80 FIP 3 times (the most recent occurrences being 2008 and 2010, respectively). Hudson doesn’t get as many K’s, but it’s not like Floyd blows them away either at 7.06 K/9 for his career vs. a 6.06 K/9 for Hudson. If both are healthy, my money’s on Hudson to outperform Floyd for 2014.

  3. travisb7 2 years ago

    I actually like this signing. Low risk, high reward.

    • Tim Bliss 2 years ago

      What reward? Only once his career has he posted an ERA below 4. He’s a very average pitcher.

      • MLB_in_the_Know 2 years ago

        What you fail to realize here, is average pitchers are important pieces on MLB rosters.

    • BraveNewWorld 2 years ago

      Which is what the Braves typically do and where does that get them??

      • Braves Fan 2 years ago

        I listened to a podcast the other day about the extensions upcoming for the braves players. All of them said that Heyward said he would only sign an extension if he could get 20 mil a year. The Braves will not give him that and I personally don’t think he has shown he is worth that at this point in his career. Hope he has a great year in case they need to trade him next year. However I am hoping he signs an extension. (Don’t see this happening.)

        • bigb69 2 years ago

          Heyward is no where near worth that or will ever be worth that. He is the Frenchy and Freeman is the McCann of this braves generation. Decent comparison except Heyward has bit the injury bug more than Frenchy, but Heyward can at least hit a ball that moves sometimes. Freeman will be the one to get an extension, and soon I hope before his potential really starts showing through as it did last year.

          • Clayton Wilson 2 years ago

            Comparing Heyward to Frenchy? That is smart….

            Heyward will be a free-agent at the age of 26. That’s very rare for someone with his talent. So it wasn’t an unreasonable assumption to make by TC, considering prices are going to keep rising. He knows that if he has two more solid seasons that he’ll definitely approach $20M per on the market.

    • Mil8Ball 2 years ago

      The details aren’t even released…and even at 5mil it a modest risk, modest reward….likely have a mid to lower 4ERA at best. Not much.

    • Kevo 2 years ago

      Good innings eater, enough said.

  4. depley 2 years ago

    I would sure as heck hope it is nothing more than a minor league deal. Nothing I see there that would make me think he could make the rotation as it sits.

    • Qpappa31 2 years ago

      Yea I’m not impressed with Floyd at all.

    • Braves Fan 2 years ago

      I have to agree with this. Coming into the current rotation I would put him as the 5th starter, so I am hoping this is just for some depth. Not the veteran starter I was hoping for.

  5. Austin 2 years ago

    My contract prediction:
    1 yr, 3 million with 2 million in incentives. Club option for 2nd year

  6. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    A complete waste of money. Gavin Floyd is your typical league average MLB starting pitcher. He’s not better than any of the guys the Braves already have, Just don’t understand this move.

    • coolstorybro222 2 years ago

      So, I bet you didn’t like the Freddy Garcia signing last year.

      • Tim Bliss 2 years ago

        No I didn’t and yes Garcia did well. But Garcia had also been a great, not good, but a great pitcher at 1 time. Floyd never has been even a good pitcher and is coming off TJ surgery. What exactly is the point of this signing when we have Medlen, Minor, Beachy, Teheran, Hale, Wood already, not to mention if one of the guys, like a Sean Gilmartin, in the minors impresses in spring training and makes a push for a starting rotation spot?

        • aRunning_Maniac 2 years ago

          When did having a lot of pitching depth become so horrible?

          • Tim Bliss 2 years ago

            I never said it was horrible. I also never said this signing was horrible. Just said that I didn’t see the point behind this signing because Floyd’s upside is of your typical league average pitcher. Love the Mat Gamel signing because Gamel has major upside potential.

          • coolstorybro222 2 years ago

            yeah, being released by 3 major league teams is unlimited potential.

          • Tim Bliss 2 years ago

            Gamel has been hurt and missed the last 2 years but go back and look at his Triple-A numbers from 2011. Twice he was ranked in the top 100 on Baseball America’s top 100 prospects list. His career minor league slash line is .304/376/.498 including .301/.374/.512 in Triple-A.

          • coolstorybro222 2 years ago

            We also signed Mitch Jones who had like 400 HRs in the minors. Minor numbers don’t mean anything if you can’t suceed at the ML level.

          • Tim Bliss 2 years ago

            I don’t know if you’ve know this or not but Mat Gamel has never been given a chance in the majors because of injuries and because of the Brewers having players blocking him. The most PA he’s had in the majors in a season has been 148. Other years he had 2, 17, 27 and 75.

          • coolstorybro222 2 years ago

            We also signed Mitch Jones who had like 400 HRs in the minors. Minor numbers don’t mean anything if you can’t suceed at the ML level.

          • Tim Bliss 2 years ago

            Gamel has been hurt and missed the last 2 years but go back and look at his Triple-A numbers from 2011. Twice he was ranked in the top 100 on Baseball America’s top 100 prospects list. His career minor league slash line is .304/376/.498 including .301/.374/.512 in Triple-A.

          • NL_East_Rivalry 2 years ago

            Some teams can afford to keep him on their 40-man others need that spot for other players they are hoping will be better.

        • LayerCake 2 years ago

          Hale isn’t going to be in the rotation he’ll be a trade bait or spot starter if that. Wood is a trade bait but could work his way into the rotation. Beachy they have no idea how his arm will hold up. If i remember correctly Gilmartin didnt exactly impress people in the Minors this season so its still to be seen what he can do. That leaves Medlen Minor, Teheran. I see no problem signing Floyd to fill a void in what could be a pitching shortage if things dont pan out in the above mentioned cases.

          • Tim Bliss 2 years ago

            Teheran was terrible in Triple-A in 2012 and then posted a great year in the majors in 2013. Who’s to say Gilmartin couldn’t do the same thing? Hale may very well only be a bullpen pitcher. Wood is going to be an elite starting pitcher in the majors for a long time. Braves would be stupid to trade him. Beachy is a question mark.

          • LayerCake 2 years ago

            The difference being Teheran was jerked around between Gwinnett and Atlanta in 2012. Gilmartin shot up to AAA and got lit up and hes 2 years older than Teheran. Like I said its still to be seen what he can do. Everyone knew what Teheran was capable of that’s why no one was overly concerned with 2012. Lastly, I’m all for keeping Wood cause I actually like him and rather him be given a spot in the rotation but Wren is covering all of his bases here and you can’t fault him for that. Floyd is low risk with upside.

          • quadbravesfan 2 years ago

            Hale is RH

          • LayerCake 2 years ago

            Ah yeah thanks fixed :)

          • LayerCake 2 years ago

            Ah yeah thanks fixed :)

          • quadbravesfan 2 years ago

            Hale is RH

        • coolstorybro222 2 years ago

          Sean gilmartin had a down year in triple A. So the braves are just getting some insurance if prospects don’t pan out.

        • slidingintobase 2 years ago

          Not sure what your definition of good is. He ranged from 4.1 to 2.5 WAR from 2009 through 2012. All the advanced statistics show he has been a better than average pitcher.

        • slidingintobase 2 years ago

          Not sure what your definition of good is. He ranged from 4.1 to 2.5 WAR from 2009 through 2012. All the advanced statistics show he has been a better than average pitcher.

        • rundmc1981 2 years ago

          “You can never have enough pitching”. You’re a Braves fan and haven’t learned that? Just like Mat Gamel, this is another low-risk, high reward investment for Wren that will keep us afloat if and when the injury-slash-slump bug bites again. Just because you sign a guy to a small contract doesn’t mean you prevent a young guy from competing with the possibility they could win the rotation spot. That’s exactly why you don’t see Wren going after someone (i.e, Arroyo, etc.) that wants a 2-3 year deal that would get a rotation spot and block someone like a David Hale, Alex Wood, Gilmartin, Beachy, etc. Floyd is an innings eater that could be valuable.

          Never been successful? He was a 17-game winner in a hitter’s ballpark in the AL. He also threw 187 IP or more 4 consecutive seasons. Give the man some credit.

          • Tim Bliss 2 years ago

            That 17 win season you speak of was in 2008 and that was the only year he was impressive. I watch a lot of the White Sox games and he is what he is. You’re typical league average starter. That 2008 year was also the only year he went over 200 innings.

          • rundmc1981 2 years ago

            Tim, you claim that there is no point – having not known the financials of the deal because they haven’t been released – to a low-risk, high-reward potential deal that provides some pitching depth in a young rotation. Only Minor eclipsed 200 IP and you can be sure youngins like Hale, Gilmartin, and Wood won’t be if given the ball out of ST (Teheran got 185 IP, so you can expect similar treatment). Yes, he’s coming off TJ surgery, but the guy put up decent, not spectacular numbers in a hitter’s ballpark in the AL. If he’s pitching like he was, we should see his numbers decrease in the NL, where the hitting isn’t as good in a more pitching-friendly Turner Field. That’s the point.

        • Matt Talbert 2 years ago

          Truthfully I’m not sold on Hale or Gilmartin, I am intrigued about Alex Wood (Yall he is a local kid to me I want him to do well and win the #5 spot). I think we should use Hale and Gilmartin as trade fodder to upgrade our depth or upgrade at 2b or CF if we can somehow (it would be tough going though!)

    • Cam Hodgson-Dwyer 2 years ago

      “Typical league average MLB starting pitcher”

      Middle of the road still means better than the bottom half. Not everyone can be top of the line, otherwise there would be no such thing as top of the line.

      For the money paid, if they get that “league average” guy you refer to, that’s a good deal.

  7. J.R. 2 years ago

    So I guess a trade for Samardzija or Price is out the question. Low-risk, sort-of high reward.

    • coolstorybro222 2 years ago

      I think if we got price, we would have to lock him up past the two years, and that would not happen with the money we have.

      • rundmc1981 2 years ago

        We’d have to give up multiple guys we don’t want to in Lucas Sims, Jason Hursh and more. We’re not at the time to really be able to deal without taking a massive hit if they were dealt, though they’re still awhile away.

  8. TDKnies 2 years ago

    I don’t dislike it but I’m also not really impressed either. If he’s fully recovered he’s probably good for 4.00 ERA over 200 innings which is valuable in its own way, but at the same time the Braves have plenty of young pitchers who are worth a shot in the 5th spot. Hopefully it’s a minor league deal, though my hopes of that happening aren’t super high.

  9. BG921 2 years ago

    When he’s healthy, his stats have been exactly in line with Tim Hudson’s stats. The Braves can replace Hudson with someone who pitches just like him for a portion of what he’s getting paid. Yet, my fellow Brave fans are still mad that they won’t trade the farm for a rental in Price. Face it, Wren is smart not to give up all of his elite pieces for a guy who would leave via free agency in two years. If you want a Teix 2.0 trade, you’re going to be disappointed.

    For people who keep saying, “The Braves are just going to win 94-96 games again and do nothing!!!!!” You do realize the only reason why they won that many games in the first place was because they held onto their homegrown talent, right? Look at St. Louis and how they do things… I’m just happy the people raging over depth signings aren’t the actual GM. We’d have a team full of wash ups making $30M+ a season lol.

    • Tim Bliss 2 years ago

      Gavin Floyd is nothing like Tim Hudson. Tim Hudson is a complete stud while Gavin Floyd just once in his career has posted an ERA below 4.

      • Clayton Wilson 2 years ago

        Will you calm down with the whole “ERA below 4 just once!” stuff?

        • Tim Bliss 2 years ago

          Yes but comparing Floyd to Hudson is ridiculous. Hudson in his prime was a Cy Young contender. Floyd has never sniffed the Cy Young.

    • jury_rigger 2 years ago

      OK, but will a rotation with the pieces we have now plus Floyd be one built for the postseason?

      • Clayton Wilson 2 years ago

        Like the 2013 Tigers and Dodgers? Or the 2012 Nationals? 2010 and 2011 Phillies? I suppose not….

  10. Fat, Ugly Inner-City Sweathog 2 years ago

    Wait…..what?

  11. jury_rigger 2 years ago

    (Looks up stats) Oh…..ok.

  12. TM Dubs 2 years ago

    Who knew that a player could be represented by a mere comma?

  13. Signings like this really make me miss Ted Turner’s back pocket…

  14. RippinNTearinAB 2 years ago

    Hopefully, this doesn’t end their pursuit for Jeff S or Kyle Lohse.

  15. gregdiehardbravesfan 2 years ago

    This is a great signing only and I mean only if Beachy is 100% healthy cause that makes him compete with woods for the 5th spot

  16. geauxbraves2000 2 years ago

    When I first saw this I was intrigued, then I saw the news about the TJ surgery. So even if the Braves do sign him he won’t be ready to take the bump until the break imo. I know they say May but I’ll believe that when I see it. Even if he was ready in May it’s going to take a while to build his strength up again. A low risk signing perhaps but I don’t think he will be much if an impact this season.

  17. cheez13 2 years ago

    To say the Braves have a two year window is making a ton of assumptions. Nobody knows who they will sign and who they won’t sign. Kimbrel has 3 years left, Simmons 4-5, Gattis 5, Teheran has 5…Uggla leaves and its an improvement, I’m sure they will sign a few of their guys long term but not all of them. Wood and Carpenter have shown they can be legit ML starters when the time comes. Yes, as their team is constructed right now, they have 2 years. But, you can say that about almost every team. The Rays continue to lose players and continue to be good. Teams like the Yanks sign players to long deals and that doesn’t help because they just get old and expensive. No team except maybe the Yanks and the Dodgers could sign Medlen, Heyward, Freeman, Kimbrel, Simmons, Gattis, Beachy, Teheran, Johnson to long term deal. Thats a bunch of young players that will be in their prime when they hit FA and will cost a ton of money.
    Hopefully the Braves can be smart and keep the right guys and replace the ones that leave with young, cheap talent. Its just the way it is.

  18. tomymogo 2 years ago

    Braves are bargain hunting, Gavin Floyd and Mat Gamel. I like it.

  19. LordOfTheSwings 2 years ago

    I hope this was just to replace Freddy Garcia/add extra depth, and not a sign that they’re not going after a good veteran pitcher for near the top of the rotation

  20. Jason Barber 2 years ago

    whats taking so long frank get this deal done

  21. Clayton Wilson 2 years ago

    What a depressing thread. I like the signing, assuming the cost is right. This used to be a place where you could discuss baseball. Not just people bringing up random plays/players from several years ago to back their opinion on a current roster….

    Low risk move. It’s not that big of a deal, is it?

  22. HomeoftheBraves 2 years ago

    If this is less than 5mill with incentives, its a good depth move…

  23. Tomahawk10 2 years ago

    It’s simple. Would you rather have Alex wood go out every 5th day and pitch 5 innings. Or have a proven starter who will pitch better in the NL and give up 4 runs a game an use wood in the pen. Dominant. Yea we still have no ace and an ace will put us in the World Series but I’d rather win our division and lose first round In the playoffs then come in 3rd place and not make the postseason. We did it last year with 5 #3 starters. Still better then giving up prospects for smardzja.

    • Tim Bliss 2 years ago

      Alex Wood in all the starts he made (10 or 12 or how ever many it was) only had 3 starts that were less than 6 innings. I’d much rather have him in the rotation dominating every 5th day than having Floyd out there every 5th day giving up a guaranteed 4 runs a game.

  24. esasc_is_a_patriot 2 years ago

    who is this Hamilton guy that we just got? first baseman, are we trading freddy?

    • NL_East_Rivalry 2 years ago

      Minor league deal. Don’t pay it any mind

  25. mattynokes 2 years ago

    The Braves don’t necessarily need an Ace. They were one less hanging curve away from a Freddy Garcia start being better than a Kershaw start. They’re fine with the in-house options and Teheran still has the room to grow into the Ace everyone thinks they need.

    Floyd is a solid innings eater. It’s not like Cellular is exactly pitcher friendly when it comes to HRs, so I suspect Floyd’s HRs and ERA will both drop a good deal going to the Ted and the NL. I still suspect they’ll add another veteran who can come in and challenge Wood/Hale for the 5th spot out of camp.

  26. Henry Lugo 2 years ago

    Ya aprendera mas en Atlanta con nuestro coach de pitcheo.
    Me imagino una ganga.

  27. dontsleep 2 years ago

    The dude is as greedy as Boras.

  28. BraveNewWorld 2 years ago

    But do these solid teams turn into championships?? Nope.

  29. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    Exactly. Winning 94 games doesn’t mean anything if you lose in the NLDS. World Series or bust!

  30. coolstorybro222 2 years ago

    Yeah let’s trade our future for two years of price. then try and extended him with the wealth of money we have. Get real.

  31. LayerCake 2 years ago

    Dude all you do is spout negativity about this team yet you call yourself a Braves fan. Please hop off the bandwagon at anytime

  32. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    You do realize the Braves only have 2 years left in their window to win a World Series before they lose a bunch of guys in free agency because they can’t afford to keep them right?

  33. coolstorybro222 2 years ago

    Let’s see. Give 100 million to price or extend Kimbrel, Heyward, Freeman and Simmons. I’ll take option 2 please.

  34. coolstorybro222 2 years ago

    Dodgers haven’t exactly won anything either, and they got owned by the Cards.

  35. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    Trading for David Price was never going to happen. But the Braves could have traded for someone like Doug Fister, wow what a steal the Nats got there, and actually gotten someone that would be an upgrade in the rotation.

  36. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    At least the Dodgers can make it out of the NLDS. Braves haven’t won a playoff series since 2001.

  37. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    If only the Braves are going to extend Kimbrel, Heyward, Freeman and Simmons. But I don’t see that happening. There’s a reason that baseball people are saying the Braves should trade Kimbrel.

  38. coolstorybro222 2 years ago

    and then got destroyed by the Cardinals homegrown players.

    Homegrown > Free agents.

  39. LayerCake 2 years ago

    I rather have a good team that goes to the playoffs constantly than a team that wins a World Series and falls off the map. See the Marlins for that playbook.

  40. The braves fans are still throwing trash on the field

  41. The braves fans are still throwing trash on the field

  42. jury_rigger 2 years ago

    in response to the downvoters, this was sarcasm (i hope)

  43. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    Dude go back and look at all the news from last year when we made the Justin Upton trade. The general consensus was that the Braves had a 3 year window to win the World Series before they had to go into rebuilding mode again. Well 1 year down and 2 more to go.

  44. coolstorybro222 2 years ago

    those same baseball people said that the Nats would win the world series.

  45. rundmc1981 2 years ago

    It’s probably because Kimbrel is a luxury and not a necessity compared to his escalating costs on the team. Yes, we’d love to keep the “best closer in MLB”, but at a cost of $10MM per? ATL doesn’t do that. Look how few closers are elite for a consistent amount of time. And why would Kimbrel sign an extension when he’s bound to make almost $10MM per for the next 3 arb years? ATL needs to focus on the other position players, while shopping Kimbrel.

  46. Jason Barber 2 years ago

    some people in baseball also don’t have the common sense God gave A billy goat on Christmas day and know next to absolutely nothing about how the braves organization works or what is ever in the head of braves management…I Actually like this signing but i still wouldnt rule out a samardzija trade to add more depth in case someone goes down to injury in spring training or the first 2 months of the season

  47. Jason Barber 2 years ago

    some people in baseball also don’t have the common sense God gave A billy goat on Christmas day and know next to absolutely nothing about how the braves organization works or what is ever in the head of braves management…I Actually like this signing but i still wouldnt rule out a samardzija trade to add more depth in case someone goes down to injury in spring training or the first 2 months of the season

  48. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    Cardinals > Braves because the Cardinals homegrown players actually know how to win the World Series. It’s been so long since the Braves have won a playoff series that I forgot what it even feels like to see the Braves play in the NLCS or WS.

  49. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    Cardinals > Braves because the Cardinals homegrown players actually know how to win the World Series. It’s been so long since the Braves have won a playoff series that I forgot what it even feels like to see the Braves play in the NLCS or WS.

  50. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    I disagree. I’d rather see my team win a World Series and be terrible for the next 10 years then to be good enough to win 80, 90 games a year and never make it out of the 1st round of the playoffs. People remember championships. People care about championships. Nobody cares about a team that won 94 games only to lose in 4 games in the NLDS.

  51. coolstorybro222 2 years ago

    I rather keep the young guys, and not become the phillies post 2008.

  52. rundmc1981 2 years ago

    STL has managed to grow players within their organization and avoid bad contracts (i.e. Pujols). Even the Holliday deal has looked good by now. They know the right time to extend a player to make it worth their while. By finding reasonable short-term deals (i.e. Beltran) that won’t stop the development of their prospects, they can keep winning. ATL has done great with pitching, but terrible in terms of positional players. Aside from 1st rd talent, Heyward, what decent OF has come through the system since Andruw Jones?

  53. rundmc1981 2 years ago

    STL has managed to grow players within their organization and avoid bad contracts (i.e. Pujols). Even the Holliday deal has looked good by now. They know the right time to extend a player to make it worth their while. By finding reasonable short-term deals (i.e. Beltran) that won’t stop the development of their prospects, they can keep winning. ATL has done great with pitching, but terrible in terms of positional players. Aside from 1st rd talent, Heyward, what decent OF has come through the system since Andruw Jones?

  54. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    Guess you don’t remember that the Braves were horrible from 2006-2009?

  55. LayerCake 2 years ago

    Then you’re the reason for these huge albatross contracts and broken farm systems. Frank Wren catered to your type of mentality with the Derek Lowe/BJ Upton fiascos. In fact he went so far as to bid against himself in the BJ Upton deal. Why? To cater to the fans who demanded we bring in a big name player regardless if its was a financially sound thing to do. Hindsight is 20/20 and now we know had Wren been patient he could have signed Bourn for 20-25 Million less.

  56. rundmc1981 2 years ago

    So you’d know when to jump back on the bandwagon?

  57. rundmc1981 2 years ago

    So you’d know when to jump back on the bandwagon?

  58. NL_East_Rivalry 2 years ago

    And yet it has been evident that people don’t go to the games during the lull periods and while said team is in the cellar for ten years their rivals are hording their annual playoff appearance over them. It will feel better 30 years down the line but business will hurt from that and 10 years will turn to 15 and once they win the people won’t come back because they will think it’s a fluke.

    My point is: going all in for championships is terrible for business unless you can structure it in a way you can field at least a similar team with 70% of the payroll used for the 1-5 year run

  59. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    I love the Braves and I love that they’re one of the youngest teams in baseball. i just wish they would win in the playoffs. I’m not happy for the Braves just to make the playoffs. I want them to win in the playoffs. What is wrong with wanting a team to a win in the playoffs?

  60. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    I love the Braves and I love that they’re one of the youngest teams in baseball. i just wish they would win in the playoffs. I’m not happy for the Braves just to make the playoffs. I want them to win in the playoffs. What is wrong with wanting a team to a win in the playoffs?

  61. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    I never got off the bandwagon. I was still watching and hanging on every game when they lost 90 games in 2008.

  62. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    I never got off the bandwagon. I was still watching and hanging on every game when they lost 90 games in 2008.

  63. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    You’re not speaking to me. I never said that and I don’t think like that.

  64. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    Thank you. That’s all. I was too young to remember 1995. I have no idea what it feels like to see the Braves as the last team standing. But I was just old enough to remember the pain of 1996 when they blew that WS against the Yankees.

  65. LayerCake 2 years ago

    You said you rather see your team win a World Series and be terrible for the next 10 years. To win a World Series you need either A. need a great young farm system and vets with contracts already established or B. You need to spend wildly and trade your farm for vets leaving your farm system depleted for the next 5 years and the team stuck with contracts that they can’t get rid of. Wren is trying to do the former and you want him to do the latter. So yes I’m speaking to you.

  66. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    Well one thing that is different between the Braves and Marlins is that the Braves wouldn’t never win the WS and then immediately have a fire sell and cut payroll to next to nothing.

  67. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    I never said I wanted Wren to make a bunch of Teixeira trades but I do think hording all our young players and not trading any of them when we could get an impact player or 2 is bad. The Braves farm system is far deep enough that they could make a David Price type trade and not have it kill them for 5 years down the road. The problem when JS made the Teixeria trade was that the farm system was already struggling as it was.

  68. rundmc1981 2 years ago

    Rebuilding? Why? We have a better farm system than that and should have a decent payroll to be able to compete. Uggla only has 2 more years left and even if BJ remains bad (not probable), we have some depth to work with it, just not the entire season. I don’t know why we couldn’t extend at least a couple of our young guys unless they really want out or want to get paid right off the bat. They don’t really strike me as that way, especially when they’re the leaders on a competitive team.

  69. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    He does have to be healthy and that is no guarantee with him coming off 2 ACL injuries. But he gives us insurance at 3B in case Chris Johnson is not able to reproduce the year he had in 2013. Also he could occasionally spell Freddie at 1B. Gamel is definitively a low risk, high reward signing.

  70. NL_East_Rivalry 2 years ago

    Yeah but those years they were suppose to have a wave of all stars and those all stars, Escobar, Johnson, McCann, frenchy all failed. (I know McCann has been amazing, but he’s had one year of what we know he can do each year). If we had a more solid team during those years the FO would have grabbed a Sabathia or Tex type player.

  71. coolstorybro222 2 years ago

    Everybody said that about Gio Gonzalez and that didn’t pan out.

  72. coolstorybro222 2 years ago

    Everybody said that about Gio Gonzalez and that didn’t pan out.

  73. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    Not me. I always thought Gio was overhyped. Had Gio been good he would have been traded about 5 times in the minors before ever making it to the majors. But Doug Fister is good and will be great for the Nats. And best of all for the Nats is they gave up next to nothing to get him.

  74. Tim Bliss 2 years ago

    Well apparently the Braves have already tried to extend some of the young guys like they did McCann but they want to make it to free agency. If that’s the case then they’re going to get paid more than the Braves can afford.

  75. rundmc1981 2 years ago

    That’s an assumption. Some of them want to have more time to be able to show what their ceiling looks like so they can have a better number in arbitration. That doesn’t mean they want to wait until free agency, that just might mean they want another season to prove their worth to get a contract more in line with their demands. A contract has to work for both parties. It doesn’t mean the Braves have to draft a bunch of guys wanting to give them the hometown discount.

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