Masahiro Tanaka Rumors: Sunday

With the Shin-Soo Choo signing expected to take the Rangers out of the Masahiro Tanaka sweepstakes, the Yankees, Cubs, and Diamondbacks are the teams most prominently linked to the 25-year-old right-hander. Here's the latest on Tanaka:

  • It could be a very, merry Christmas for teams interested in Tanaka. Ben Badler of Baseball America cites Japanese media reports suggesting, because of Tanaka's schedule, if a decision to post him is announced before the end of the year it could come Christmas Eve or Christmas Day. The deadline to post any Japanese player is February 1.
  • Japanese newspaper Nikkan Gendai reports the Rakuten Golden Eagles may be delaying their decision so as to maximize the $20MM posting fee by taking advantage of the dollar-to-yen exchange rate (h/t Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times).    


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MadmanTX
1 year 8 months ago

Everybody thought the Rangers were done making moves and then they signed Choo. If Tanaka is available, don’t be surprised if the Rangers go for him with the expectation that if they sign Tanaka, they’ll seek to trade one of their other starters to cut payroll a bit.

Frittoman626
1 year 8 months ago

They were always going for Choo and the conception around the league was that Choo would eventually sign there. I don’t think the Rangers will pursue since they would be bidding against a desperate Yankees team that needs him as well as the Dodgers, Cubs, Angels, D-Backs, and the Mariners. The Rangers have no real need for Tanaka, so it wouldn’t make sense.

jblank1980
1 year 8 months ago

Conception?? Haha how about perception

Frittoman626
1 year 8 months ago

Yeah, I was typing really fast and didn’t notice. It happens lol

mattdecap
1 year 8 months ago

Conception can also mean the way something is perceived.

outlawsundown
1 year 8 months ago

With the market desperate for quality pitching they might actually get something decent back trading someone. But yeah gonna depend on what kind of offers get thrown out there.

talcha32
1 year 8 months ago

Nobody thought Texas was done. Everyone’s been waiting to see which one of Choo/Cruz/Tanaka became a Ranger.

Kyle
1 year 8 months ago

Rangers will put the max bid in and talk to Tanaka. There’s no reason not too. Take Darvish with you to vouch for the organization and go from there. If the bidding is too high then so be it.

matt luce
1 year 8 months ago

Rangers are done spending money

Phil Merkel
1 year 8 months ago

I beg to differ…you can’t know that!!!

p_phelps09
1 year 8 months ago

The Rangers had $74mm committed to the team at the end of the 2013 season. Losing Kinsler and adding Fielder adds $8mm to next years payroll. Resigning Soto is another $3mm. The details of Choo’s deal havent been released but it will be about $19mm added to the payroll for next year for him. Arencibia was $1.8mm. The few other minor moves add up to another $2mm or so, so all together their payroll is at about $107mm. Considering the year before the team was at $125mm, that leaves some room in the budget

outlawsundown
1 year 8 months ago

Five million was moved from the first season for Choo to the two following seasons.

p_phelps09
1 year 8 months ago

yeah that’s my point though. The rangers still have budget space to make a major move ala Tanaka. That being said I doubt the rangers get him because some team will pay him a boat load that the rangers wont be comfortable with

outlawsundown
1 year 8 months ago

With the current ownership if they think it’s worth it they’ll probably come up with the money. They did it with Darvish that weren’t keen on him initially because it looked like the bidding was going to be astronomical if the old system held. The TV deal should be kicking in after next season so they’ll have some more money coming in.

Plus if they had Darvish and Tanaka I wouldn’t be surprised if they managed to get some sort of Japanese TV deal going. Plus money from selling merchandise. It also might open up the opportunity to trade one of their other starters and find another bat. It probably won’t happen but I wouldn’t rule it out if the price was right.

Thomas
1 year 8 months ago

Yeah. they may bid but they won’t be competitive with the Mariners or Angels or even Yankees.

omavricko
1 year 8 months ago

Every team will post the 20m

Kyle
1 year 8 months ago

I’m glad we have a couple of insiders in Matt and Thomas who can tell us where the Rangers stand.

Thomas
1 year 8 months ago

Yeah. they may bid but they won’t be competitive with the Mariners or Angels or even Yankees.

talcha32
1 year 8 months ago

Rangers are loaded. They can be competitive here if they want to be.

Alex
1 year 8 months ago

Howie kendrick for derick holland

JustAnother24
1 year 8 months ago

How does that make any sense for the Rangers? They finally cleared space to let Profar be an everyday player, and Holland is the Rangers #2 pitcher.

talcha32
1 year 8 months ago

1. I’m embarrassed for you that you even posted this.

2. We have our 2B. You might have heard of him. Quite recently, he was the #1 prospect in all of baseball.

Blake
1 year 8 months ago

Tanaka is probably better than Darvish. And he’s 25. It might have been better to put the money into Tanaka than Choo.

charles stevens
1 year 8 months ago

How do you know he’s better? I’m not saying he isn’t but thats a pretty bold statement. It’ll be interesting to watch the bidding war.

Blake
1 year 8 months ago

More talent, smoother mechanics, similar movement, velocity, and control. And getting better with age. I’m not saying they’re far apart but I think I’d rather have Tanaka at this point.

Frittoman626
1 year 8 months ago

I don’t think he is better than Darvish, with all due respect to Tanaka Darvish is a true #1 who has a chance to strike out 300 batters in a season. Tanaka is more of a #2 or #3.

Blake
1 year 8 months ago

Tanaka’s last 3 years in the Japanese leagues were superior to what Darvish did there. My argument is that Tanaka is coming in to his prime and getting better. His velocity and stuff will be peaking, whereas Darvish is actually going to start losing that now.

Kyle
1 year 8 months ago

Are you talking about the same Yu Darvish that is 27 years old? That makes no sense.

Blake
1 year 8 months ago

Makes perfect sense actually. There are many examples of pitchers who have lost velocity by 27. Lincecum’s average fastball velocity peaked at age 24 at 94. It’s declined ever since. There are many many other examples. Scour pitch f/x data if you don’t believe me.
I contend that Darvish hit peak velocity in 2013 and will now start to decline. Meanwhile, Tanaka will gain velocity over at least the next 2 years, maybe 3 or more.

Blake
1 year 8 months ago

There are many examples of pitchers who have lost velocity by 27. Lincecum’s average fastball velocity peaked at age 24 at 94. It’s declined ever since. There are many other examples. Scour pitch f/x data if you don’t believe me.

I contend that Darvish hit peak velocity in 2013 and will now start to decline. Meanwhile, Tanaka will gain velocity over at least the next 2 years, maybe 3 or more.

Guest
1 year 8 months ago

There are many examples of pitchers who have lost velocity by 27. Lincecum’s average fastball velocity maxed out at age 24 at 94. It’s declined ever since. There are many other examples. Look at velocity data if you don’t believe me.

I contend that Darvish hit max velocity in 2013 and will now start to decline. Meanwhile, Tanaka will gain velocity over at least the next 2 years, maybe 3 or more.

Tko11
Tko11
1 year 8 months ago

It doesn’t matter what he did over there as there have been pitchers who had success there but not in the MLB (Igawa, Dice K). It’s more so how their pitching will translate to the MLB. Darvish had a remarkable transition while a guy like Dice K showed flashes but ended up not panning out. So saying Tanaka will be superior in the MLB compared to Darvish is really not logical since Darvish has already shown to be a major league ace while Tanaka has yet to be posted.

Andy Todd
1 year 8 months ago

I like Choo, but I’d rather have Tanaka!

BK
1 year 8 months ago

I see the Angels and Yankees as being the real front-runners here. Angels becuase Arte has shown a panache for not caring about cost as well as Dipoto’s insistence on signing a top flight free-agent pitcher without giving up a draft pick. The Yankees, well, because they’re the Yankees.

In the end I predict a 5/95 deal with one of these teams and a club option for the a 6th.

charles stevens
1 year 8 months ago

It will take 6/120. Plus the 20m posting fee so you’re out 140 million.

iyasuN
1 year 8 months ago

Interesting point from the Nikkan article: Rakuten checked with NPB about whether they would have any way of tracking which MLB teams a posted Tanaka was negotiating with.

Garret Strachota
1 year 8 months ago

will it be announced who all posts the 20m?

Taylor
1 year 8 months ago

Anyone think that the presence of Choo and Darvish helps the rangers get a discount? That paired with the fact that if he signed and placed into the rangers rotation as 2/3 and ogando to the pen would have to make the rangers WS favorites? Or you think he takes the biggest deal?

charles stevens
1 year 8 months ago

He will take the biggest deal more than likely. Texas would be stacked if they get him somehow.

jed_hoyer
1 year 8 months ago

biggest deal in 2 yrs when he’s a FA

p_phelps09
1 year 8 months ago

Choo is Korean so no..

Mike Z
1 year 8 months ago

Um, Choo is Korean, so no.

homunculus
1 year 8 months ago

Not likely, and it’s not because of Choo and that nonsense. It’s Darvish. I don’t think either of them wants to play second fiddle to the other. Very same reason why Ichiro was never all that hot to play with Matsui.

Sami20
1 year 8 months ago

Towers let’s go remember it’s your walk year

mmiller54
1 year 8 months ago

If they’re going to spend some big money, this is where I would like to spend it… not on Garza, Ubaldo, or Santana.

Guest
1 year 8 months ago

check

王威評
1 year 8 months ago

According to report, Tanaka prefers to pitch on the west coast.
Ms and Dodgers will both bid Max.

Tko11
Tko11
1 year 8 months ago

Hoping he goes to the M’s if hes posted this offseason!

charles stevens
1 year 8 months ago

According to a report, Tanaka prefers to get filthy rich.

王威評
1 year 8 months ago

He will get 100M+ filthy rich everywhere he prefers.

Tim Bowers
1 year 8 months ago

Mariners will spare no expense if Tanaka is willing to come to Seattle.

These kinds of opportunities don’t come often.

7 years 140 million

gabyland15
1 year 8 months ago

Remember seattle is close to it’s payroll limit, apparently according to reports

SportsLover
1 year 8 months ago

Tanaka has stated that he wants to play for either Los Angeles or New York.

Tko11
Tko11
1 year 8 months ago

Or Madagascar.

Blake
1 year 8 months ago

I’ll never get on this cheap site again and I expect the people that run it to come to their ruin financially.

GrilledCheese39
1 year 8 months ago

Umm why?

1 year 8 months ago

Go get him, Theo and Jed. Speed this rebuilding process up.

charles stevens
1 year 8 months ago

Not yet. Don’t be the Mariners

1 year 8 months ago

Gotta figure the Mariners went after Cano so hard to gain relevance and pose as an attractive destination for future FAs. Despite their current state, I don’t think the Cubs signing Tanaka would be seen as a desperation move, considering he’s 25 and after Shark, there isn’t much pitching to write home about in the entire organization. It would be smart.

Drew Pike
1 year 8 months ago

Masahiro Tanaka would like to thank all the teams that have showed interest in him, but he has decided to sign with the Seattle Mariners. We will hold a press conference to introduce him, in the next few days, and you can ask questions then.

homunculus
1 year 8 months ago

Keep praying. I don’t see him being posted this season. Rakuten is already starting to win the PR battle in Japan because everyone is starting to realize that the new posting rules would shaft the team.