Tigers Acquire David Price In 3-Team Deal With Rays, Mariners

The Tigers have officially agreed to acquire David Price from the Rays, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. The deal is a three-way trade between the Tigers, Rays, and Mariners.

MLB: Milwaukee Brewers at Tampa Bay RaysTigers center fielder Austin Jackson will go to the Mariners, with Nick Franklin (from Seattle) and Drew Smyly (from Detroit) heading to Tampa in the blockbuster. Minor league shortstop Willy Adames is also going to Tampa from Detroit in the deal, per a tweet from Rosenthal.

The move brings and end to near-ceaseless speculation regarding the now-former Rays lefty, who has been one of the game’s best pitchers in recent seasons. Still only 28, Price is under control for one more season through arbitration, though he will certainly not come cheap.

Playing this year on a $14MM salary, Price will be in line for a big raise next year. Of course, one key element of his value lies in the fact that his new club will have an opportunity to explore an extension. The reason that Price figures to draw a big salary next year is obvious: he has continued to be outstanding. At present, he owns a 3.11 ERA with a remarkable 10.0 K/9 against just 1.2 BB/9 over 170 2/3 innings.

The return for the Rays is not particularly splashy, but delivers obvious value. Smyly, 25, was outstanding last year as a reliever and has since converted into a solid starting option. He carries a 3.77 ERA through 100 1/3 innings, with 7.8 K/9 and 2.8 BB/9 and a 36.9% groundball rate. While his strikeout numbers are down since moving to the rotation, he can be controlled through 2018.

The 23-year-old Franklin, meanwhile, seemed without a future in Seattle after the club added Robinson Cano. Though he has spent time at both short and second, many observers believe he is better suited for the keystone going forward. He had a solid 2013 at the MLB level (.225/.303/.382 in 412 plate appearances), and though his numbers were off this year in limited action, Franklin has continued to swing a big stick against Triple-A pitchers.

Then, there is Adames, who could be something of a wild card in the deal. Just 18, he has a promising .269/.346/.428 slash line through 400 plate appearances at the low-A level this year. He entered the year as Baseball America’s 30th-ranked Tigers prospect, but appears to be raising eyebrows around the game.

That brings us to Seattle, which quietly managed to address its center field need without giving up an indispensable piece of the future. In fact, the 27-year-old Jackson will be at least a mid-term piece for Seattle. He is playing on a $6MM salary this year before hitting arbitration for the final time. He currently sports a .270/.330/.397 line that is approximately league average (as it was last year). With solid contributions in the field and on the bases, he is certainly an above-average big league regular.

Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com first reported that Jackson and Smyly were part of the deal (via Twitter). Mike Salk of 710 ESPN tweeted that Jackson would head to Seattle. Bob Dutton of the Tacoma News Tribune first reported Franklin’s inclusion (via Twitter).

Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.

798 Responses to Tigers Acquire David Price In 3-Team Deal With Rays, Mariners Leave a Reply

  1. letsgogiants 1 year ago

    Talk about a good deal for the Tigers. Just Jackson + Smyly + Adames for a year and a half of Price? I’ll take that every day of the week.

  2. Ace2095 1 year ago

    Whats the deal on Zobrist? Is he a Pirate or a Ray?

  3. Kevin McClintock 1 year ago

    No David Price as a Pirate, Brewer or Dodger.

    Win for St. Louis

    • FredBird 1 year ago

      Yeah but they could of gotten him for as much TB asked for.

    • Eric Murray 1 year ago

      Not if the cards get to the world series and have to face that rotation

  4. WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey 1 year ago

    Are you sure this deal did come from one of those fake accounts???

    • Ace2095 1 year ago

      I have no idea about Zobrist, I heard he was traded to the Pirates on Baseball Tonight and they usually don’t report false stuff do they? (I assume this is what you were talking about)

      • WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey 1 year ago

        No i was referring to the fact that the Rays just got robbed blind for their ace.

        • Ace2095 1 year ago

          Oh my bad, I just saw someone say something about a fake account and the Zobrist trade

  5. StantonLikeMyDaddy 1 year ago

    Dombrowski and Beane need to get sloppy drunk and have one of those old sword duels. It only seems right.

  6. Guest 1 year ago

    The Rays got more for Alex Torres

    • Guest 1 year ago

      link to mlbtraderumors.com

      For Torres the Rays got Brad Boxberger ( 4hits 0ER in his last 15.1 innings),
      An A-ball infielder hitting .300, A utility infielder barely hitting his weight and a borderline MLB ready pitcher with a 3.5+ ERA.

      For Price they got: An A-ball infielder hitting .269, A utility infielder barely hitting his weight (in the majors) and a borderline MLB pitcher with a 3.5+ ERA.

  7. Joshua hatt 1 year ago

    I thought the Rays would get more for Price, nice deal for the Tigers and Mariners though.

    I hope the Tigers face the A’s in the ALCS, that would be an amazing series to watch.

  8. Guest 1 year ago

    Tigers got hosed with the Fister trade and return the favor to the Rays for Price

    • animedad 1 year ago

      The Mariners got hosed on the Fister trade and got hosed again today.

      • Seamaholic 1 year ago

        Austin Jackson for Nick Franklin is a hose job? What the?

  9. YankeeFan™ 1 year ago

    The Rays Got ROBBED

  10. Seamaholic 1 year ago

    Whole lotta good deals for buyers and bad deals for sellers today. Red Sox-A’s deal seemed fair, but that’s about the only one.

  11. jawilli31 1 year ago

    That doesn’t make sense, it looks way too short between the ends. Can’t say I agree with this rumor.

  12. Jack Miller 1 year ago

    They made this trade because of Oakland 😉

  13. WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey 1 year ago

    So is there anyone left to trade that not a Phillie?

    • Ace2095 1 year ago

      Koji,Rios,Napoli,Beckham are the ones that come to mind

  14. Tanthalas 1 year ago

    Wow. Seattle and Detroit both make off like bandits in this, and Tampa gets doubly fleeced. That is a shockingly bad return for David Price.

  15. Nate 1 year ago

    if franklin doesn’t hit within the first week he’ll be booed out of the city

    • Seamaholic 1 year ago

      What fans are gonna do that?

      • Nate 1 year ago

        your right im over reacting but Im unimpressed by this… we should have held on to Price if this is it… not to say it won’t work out but I definitely have a pit in my stomach after reading this

        • Ace2095 1 year ago

          I’m a Red Sox fan so I share most of your pain, there is one thing I don’t share though, and that is the feeling of giving away an ace pitcher for nothing :P. Sorry I just like fun jabbing like this 😛

          • Nate 1 year ago

            hahaha its all good bro… I would have happily given up Guyer and Price for Cespedes after hearing about this

          • Ace2095 1 year ago

            Maybe Freidman sees something that nobody else is able to see.

          • Nate 1 year ago

            its possible… Franklin could bounce back and be great… i’ll keep my fingers crossed… till then I really need that drink

        • Evan 1 year ago

          I think he ment the Rays have no fans to boo anyone. Even if he didn’t….Bazinga

    • Out of place Met fan 1 year ago

      Its Tampa, only going to be 500 fans there to boo…won’t be to bad

  16. slasher016 1 year ago

    I’m not sure why everyone is saying the Rays got robbed. They gave up 1.33 years of Price for 6 years of Franklin who had a .800+ OPS in the minors, 4.33 years of a young pitcher who has already generated 6.2 career bWAR, and an up and coming SS prospect who is hitting well in low A while being the youngest player in the league.

    • Nate 1 year ago

      in other words… a 2b who has been useless in the majors(quad a player at best… so far), an SP who has struggled recently and at his peak is a 3rd starter and a guy who is 2-4 years away… excuse me for not being impressed

      • slasher016 1 year ago

        Franklin had a 1.9 bWAR last year (102 games). That’s far from useless. Smyly is probably a peak 3rd starter sure, but he’s already useful.

        • Nate 1 year ago

          Franklin barely batted over 200 last year… Im sorry but for an elite SP like Price that is useless

          • slasher016 1 year ago

            Oh I forgot batting average is the end all stat.

          • Nate 1 year ago

            ok his OPS was under 700 in over 400 ABs… that is an end all stat and Im not impressed

          • it is not at all (I think it is an entirely overrated stat and I like OPS better) but WAR certainly is not the end all stat either.
            A .649 career OPS and an OBP .291 in 416 AB’s is hard to swallow.
            I like Franklin and think he has a good up side but it doesn’t change the thinking that the Rays should had gotten more.
            The Mariners got a good deal though.

        • johansantana15 1 year ago

          True, but before today we were hearing the Rays wanted can’t miss top notch prospects like Seager, Urias, Pederson, Taveras, etc. To get two guys who you have to describe as “far from useless” and “useful” instead is quite a downgrade.

    • “800+ OPS in the minors.”
      That is all fine. But that is the minors and not the majors. Their are NUMEROUS of players in the minors that can have an 800+ OPS but they never amount to anything in the majors.

      I’m not saying Franklin won’t be anything in the majors but for a legit Ace in David Price that you can have next year, I’m expecting a bit more of a return. I’m not even a Rays fan and I think this…

    • RHova87 1 year ago

      Up and coming SS? He’s hitting .269 in the midwest league (hitters paradise) and appears on exactly zero top 50 or even top 100 prospect lists.

      • paqza 1 year ago

        Can’t just look at the average. He’s hitting .269/.346/.428 which is totally respectable considering his age and defense.

      • paqza 1 year ago

        Can’t just look at the average. He’s hitting .269/.346/.428 which is totally respectable considering his age and defense.

  17. tiduss 1 year ago

    “They made that trade for us” – A’s

  18. OaklandFan22 1 year ago

    Seems to me that the Rays got the shaft.

    • northsfbay 1 year ago

      You would think the A’s could have gave a better offer for Price.

      • OaklandFan22 1 year ago

        We sure gave the cubbies a better haul then what the Rays were able to get. Addison straight up for Price would be better, I believe, then what the Rays got in this deal

        • northsfbay 1 year ago

          I am one the few people in the Bay Area that roots for all the Bay Area teams.

          • OaklandFan22 1 year ago

            Well then I shouldn’t use “we” haha

  19. Nate 1 year ago

    I would have gladly taken Cespedes for Price and Guyer over this

  20. WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey 1 year ago

    Hey Scherzer meet your 2015 replacement.

  21. DetroitTigers 1 year ago

    Hm, I was correct. Jackson got traded. haha yes! People doubted me!

  22. DetroitTigers 1 year ago

    The tigers better get another outfielder. That’s all im saying.

    • Hello it's Dick again 1 year ago

      Carrera is better defensively and has 43 steals this year

  23. Kevin S 1 year ago

    How is it that the Cardinals could not have come up with a better package to TB? Seems like with the package TB got, STL could have gotten Price without including Oscar Taveras.

  24. javywoz 1 year ago

    Still hitting refresh every minute, theres more for the Rays, right? right? Heading home to have a talk with mister Jim Beam.

  25. Jon 1 year ago

    The Rays got more for Alex Torres than they did for David Price

    For Torres the Rays got Brad Boxberger ( 4hits 0ER in his last 15.1 innings),
    An A-ball infielder hitting .300, A utility infielder barely hitting his weight and a borderline MLB ready pitcher with a 3.5+ ERA.

    For Price they got: An A-ball infielder hitting .269, A utility infielder barely hitting his weight (in the majors) and a borderline MLB pitcher with a 3.5+ ERA.

    • Seamaholic 1 year ago

      I hate the trade too, but Smyly is WAY more than a borderline MLB pitcher.

      • Jon 1 year ago

        I’m exaggerating slightly to make a point but he is at least a borderline Starter. He is averaging 5 1/3 innings per start with about a 4ERA as a starter… not exactly WAY more than borderline

    • Salty Dog 1 year ago

      Franklin is a 23 year old slashing .294/.392/.455 in AAA this year. You can’t look only at his major league stats. Have to project what he’s going to be in a few years in the majors. I think his minor league numbers suggest he’s going to be significantly better than the major league numbers he’s put up this far.

  26. DetroitTigers 1 year ago

    Go tigers. Now or never. We got this.

    • Seamaholic 1 year ago

      It certainly is now or never. I’m rooting for them. All those 30+ hamstrings …. hang in there until November.

      • DetroitTigers 1 year ago

        Exactly. SO close these past couple of years.

  27. Nate 1 year ago

    I thought Addames was the no. 3 prospect… now there saying no. 30… this just keeps getting better and better

    • slasher016 1 year ago

      Team vs. overall in MLB I believe is the difference.

      • Nate 1 year ago

        the no. 30 in Tigers organization prolly isn’t even in top 250 in MLB

    • He is #3 for the Tigers.
      But I don’t seem him listed overall on Baseball-America and Baseball-Reference doesn’t have him listed as an overall top prospect. Unless MLB.com moved up him way at Mid Season

      • GD 1 year ago

        #3 for the Tigers is like all other teams #20 lol.

        Tigers Farm has been so depleted it’s not even funny. But hey they have 3 CY Young SPs in their rotation now. There’s a price for something.

    • RHova87 1 year ago

      started at 30, jumped to 3 midseason

  28. Mike1L 1 year ago

    interesting, i thought price would fetch a higher price

  29. DetroitTigers 1 year ago

    Now we just gotta get rid of avila and we will be good! 😀

  30. Dan Bowen 1 year ago

    Friedman probably thought this was fantasy baseball and accidentally clicked the “Send Trade Proposal” button.

  31. Jim Taylor 1 year ago

    Rays got absolutely fleeced in this deal. Talks of Joc Pederson, Corey Seager, Oscar Taveras, Shelby Miller, Julio Urias. All they got is a middling infielder in Franklin and a number 3 starter in Smyly. Compared to the haul they got for Garza and Shields this is nothing. It really shows you why Epstein said yes as soon as Addison Russell was included for Samardzija.

    • Seamaholic 1 year ago

      The SS prospect they got is supposed to be very good. Youngest guy in his league and a terrific fielder. The deal may turn out OK, but I’m not sure I trust the Rays judgment on position players. Pitchers, yes.

  32. Eric Mack 1 year ago

    Since when is .225/.303/.382 “solid” at the MLB level?

    • westcoastwhitesox 1 year ago

      when you play for the Mariners organization 😀

    • amoreperfectunion 1 year ago

      I think they’re trying to spin it so the Rays fans don’t feel so bad…

  33. amoreperfectunion 1 year ago

    The more I look at this deal, the more I feel like the Rays got Lando’ed – “This deal is getting worse all the time!”

  34. DetroitTigers 1 year ago

    Avila and Coke need to be gone and we got this in the bag. Tigers champions.

  35. javywoz 1 year ago

    Next years Rays rotation would have been Cobb, Moore, Archer, Odorizzi and Hellickson. I’m failing to see how Smyly is a great upgrade over any of those. Even if Moore isn’t ready, you still have prospects Karns and Romero at AAA who wouldn’t be that much if at all worse than Smyly. Still scratching my head. Franklin is a nice back up plan for when we lose Zobrist, but thats about it.

    • Seamaholic 1 year ago

      Moore’s not back until May, and then he’ll probably stink for a while (most TJ guys do).

  36. start_wearing_purple
    start_wearing_purple 1 year ago

    Definitely an eyebrow raising move, but time tends to prove Friedman more right than wrong.

    On the Tigers side, clearly they’ve entered into an arms race with the A’s and I’m just praying now for an A’s/Tigers ALCS. But in the long term, can they afford Scherzer next season? With the addition of Price who could cost between $18M-$20M next year they have about $115M on the books already and I’m pretty sure that’s 7 contracts.

    • Seamaholic 1 year ago

      Not so sure about Friedman. His record on trades is no better than most GM’s. Some real stinkers in there. His strength is signing low-end FA’s and having them turn into gems. He has no peers there.

  37. BitLocker 1 year ago

    TB better hope there’s more in this trade that hasn’t been announced. Red Sox got more for Lackey.

    • Seamaholic 1 year ago

      No, that’s not true at all. Cards sent a couple extraneous, soon-to-be journeyman pieces that may or may not even be on the Sox next year. In this deal the Rays get a mid-rotation starter, a disappointing former elite prospect, and a fast-rising elite SS prospect. It’s not a good return for Price, but it’s in the ballpark.

      • RHova87 1 year ago

        Seamaholic, I believe that you are incorrect.

  38. Ace2095 1 year ago

    Who here thinks RAJ did an amazing job today?

    • WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey 1 year ago

      Well he didn’t make any bad trades….

      • Silence 1 year ago

        Honestly, after seeing the fall out of the Price trade, I’m kind of glad we didn’t trade Hamels/Lee.

        Yeah he overvalues his talent, but I rather him overvalue talent than give away talent for the sake of giving it away.

        If this was the “best” last minute deal the Rays got, I’m happy RAJ didn’t pull a similar type of move.

  39. Silence 1 year ago

    This is one of the worst trades, in recent memory, that has happened in the MLB.

  40. Jon 1 year ago

    Sure if Willy Adames is the next Manny Machado then this won’t be too bad of a trade. And even Zobrist had an awful 1st couple of years in the majors so maybe there is hope for Franklin too. But where does Smyly fit in?

  41. DieHardMsFan 1 year ago

    Man I love this trade from the M’s perspective. I was never a huge fan of Franklin once I saw him with the M’s. Great trade Z!

  42. cgriffith 1 year ago

    Dombrowski ” we have been pursuing this for 10 days” “Rays GM called him again last night” WOW!!! – Mr Illitch gave his blessing before the game

    • DetroitTigers 1 year ago

      i thought you said jackson wasnt getting traded hehe

    • Ace2095 1 year ago

      I’ve had this view for awhile but I think Illitch is a top 5 owner, am I the only one who sees things this way? 😛

  43. javywoz 1 year ago

    I just don’t see the point in this trade now. You could have received similar value at the end of the year compared to this from someone, and still given the Rays a small remote chance of making the playoffs this year. This wasn’t a bowl me over type of trade the justifies giving up this season. Plus you essentially traded away a comp pick as well. Horrible, just horrible.

    • DetroitTigers 1 year ago

      Getting rid of extra package and looking to the the future for the rays. Done poorly but still looking to the future.

    • DetroitTigers 1 year ago

      Getting rid of extra package and looking to the the future for the rays. Done poorly but still looking to the future.

    • GenerationInk 1 year ago

      they didnt trade away a comp pick because Price isnt a FA til after NEXT season. they would only get comp pick if Rays kept him through the end of 2015, which we all know wasn’t happening.

      • javywoz 1 year ago

        Right, but Detriot gets a comp pick. Friedman knows this and that should be part of the return. Detriot gets 1.5 years of Price and a comp pick and the Rays get Smyly and AJax….beyond horrible deal.

  44. cgriffith 1 year ago

    Dave Dombrowski “if we can get Joakim Soria and David Price we’re going for it” (in presser right mow) Well like I’ve said If Mr. I and DD want them, they get them.

    • DetroitTigers 1 year ago

      Whats your opinion on Jackson then? Now has it changed?

    • paqza 1 year ago

      Gotta love the Fielder trade in retrospect – it cleared a whole lotta budget which is being put to great use right now.

  45. Youjustgotpetcoed 1 year ago

    Wow rays got robbed

  46. Guest 1 year ago

    Wow… I do not understand this trade for the Rays

  47. RHova87 1 year ago

    The Astros got more value for Jarred Cosart LOLOL

  48. Scott Brewer 1 year ago

    Tigers winners. Rays yet to be seen as you can say Smyly hasn’t hit his ceiling yet and Franklin has none to little MLB experience..only time will tell. Well done Dave. Seattle nice little piece which was a necessity; however they’ll come up short of the playoffs.

    • Out of place Met fan 1 year ago

      Seattle still needs a pitcher

      • DieHardMsFan 1 year ago

        No we don’t. Price would have been a luxury. Being a Mets fan you seen our pitching and it is damn good. Apart from three or four guys we can’t get any hits on offense. M’s should still look to acquire another bat in August or wait for Saunders to come back.

        • Out of place Met fan 1 year ago

          Surprised Ackley is still there to be honest, and while the Pitching is good with potential to be really good, a lot riding on an unproven back end moving forward. C Young has already pitched more innings then the last 6 years

          • DieHardMsFan 1 year ago

            Ackley has been our hottest hitter in July (if not than our second hottest hitter). He was the least of our problems though as he is a .700 OPS hitter and plays good defense. While our CF/RF/1B/DH have an OPS below .700.

            I understand that C. Young last pitched this many innings 6 years from now but the M’s should not be really concerned about him. He is a FA at the end of the year. Ride him for a chance to get to the playoffs. Besides he does not look like he is starting to get tired on the mound but looking stronger and stronger as the season goes on.

          • Out of place Met fan 1 year ago

            I have always liked CY, the way he adjusts in game. Many, more talented pitchers could learn something from him.
            From this distance though insurance innings, back end rotation type seems like it could be very useful there. Granted I only get to see a handful of M’s games a year.

            As for Ackley, aside from a really good start and recent hot streak, I felt like he is a prime change of scenery guy. Great swing, quick, probably could hit more HR in a different ballpark, but still should be a doubles -gap hitter. Again as a fan from a distance I see an under performing player who just hasn’t had all things click at once yet.

          • DieHardMsFan 1 year ago

            I agree regarding Ackley, but if he has a .700 OPS while we have struggling hitters at other positions there is no real hurry to get rid of him. Besides change of scenery type trades are usually done over the winter.

            He has a very pretty swing but his eye is often too good for his own good and gets called out on borderline pitches just a bit outside. Also when Ackley hits (like he is right now) he hits the other way very often. The times he struggles is when he pulls everything…

  49. Kyle 1 year ago

    Why hasn’t the Zobrist to Pittsburgh deal been announced? Did it actually occur?

    • Chris Vinnit 1 year ago

      No. They fell for a fake twitter account. If you don’t see it on MLBTR, it didn’t happen.

      • Kyle 1 year ago

        Are you kidding me?

        • Ace2095 1 year ago

          Well it’s been 2 hours since the deadline passed, they announced it on Baseball Tonight but there has been 0 mention of it since so I’m assuming it didn’t go down.

    • Chris Vinnit 1 year ago

      No. They fell for a fake twitter account. If you don’t see it on MLBTR, it didn’t happen.

    • DieHardMsFan 1 year ago

      If that trade did occur the teams can announce it whenever they please. The commissioners office just needs to get the trade in before the deadline.

    • Seamaholic 1 year ago

      Nope. Didn’t happen. Shame too. Would have been nice for Pirates.

  50. Trock 1 year ago

    Cubs should of flipped Russel and Arrieta for Price. That deal would of been better for the Rays. Heck, I would of been fine with them adding someone else to the deal for price. I for sure thought it was going to take more highly regarded prospects then what they got.

    • TimotheusATL 1 year ago

      That deal makes no sense for the Cubs, though.

      • Ace2095 1 year ago

        Sure it does, getting an ace pitcher on a team that lacks starting pitching, they have the money to extend price if needed and he would be the veteran piece among a team full of young guys.

        • TimotheusATL 1 year ago

          Pretty bold assumption that Price would be an automatic extension for a team like the Cubs in a clear rebuild. Do you really think an ace like Price wants to be at the head of a rebuild project when he’s already sniffed the World Series?

          • Ace2095 1 year ago

            I think he would go for it because by the time his contract runs out they should have the main pieces in the farm either in the majors or on the brink of breaking out and once those prospects arrive it will most likely be a great team, and plus the appeal of helping to lead the cubs to their first world series in over 100 years might be a factor also.

          • Trock 1 year ago

            He wouldn’t but the Cubs do have the money that it would take to sign him for a long term extension. Not sure if he wants to head a rebuild just depends if Price is after the money at this point in his career or a WS. He also said recently he see’s the young prospects that the Cubs have and that they may be very good in the next few years (which could happen as soon as next year or the year after).

          • DieHardMsFan 1 year ago

            Money talks. If the Cubs would have offered him a deal similar to Felix/Verlander/etc. you really think he would turn it down?

          • TimotheusATL 1 year ago

            Too much “if” — Samardzija and Scherzer serve as proof of that. I could MAYBE see the angle if the Cubs asked for (and received) a 24 hour window to negotiate a pre-trade extension.

          • Out of place Met fan 1 year ago

            How long before those bats are hitting bombs in Wrigley?

        • jb226 1 year ago

          In terms of how they performed this year, Jeff Samardzija had a better ERA for the Cubs than David Price had for the Rays. What you’re suggesting essentially rewinds the tape to the start of this season, which found the Cubs in last place in the division and wildly out of contention early enough that they traded 40% of their pitching staff nearly a full month before the deadline because hey, why not, it doesn’t matter.

          Please note: I am NOT saying Samardzija is a better pitcher than Price. What I’m say is that the Cubs need multiple big changes before anything is going to matter, and dealing one of the biggest positives on our major league team isn’t going to get us to that point. As I pointed out in another comment, I would take my chances keeping Arrietta and looking to sign somebody like Price or Lester during subsequent offseasons. If we were closer to contending it might be a different story, but we’re just too far off right now to be trading big pieces, especially with no guarantee Price stays in Chicago beyond 2015.

      • Trock 1 year ago

        It really does. They have the money to lock up Price. He also said recently it would be cool to win a world series with the Cubs and recognizes that the Cubs have the young talent to be a true contender very soon. If they only had to give up Russel and Arrieta (and maybe another minor piece) to get the chance to get Price and extend him, it makes perfect sense.

    • Out of place Met fan 1 year ago

      Just because BA or Sickley says one prospect is better then the other doesn’t tell you what Rays FO think of Franklin or Adames. Rays interest in Franklin has been reported for at least 8 months now

      • Trock 1 year ago

        That is very true. I just am going off of the value I see in the players that were involved vs what I proposed. Arrieta has been really solid this year and Russel is supposed to be a stud SS. It really does boil down to how the club who is obtaining the players values said players.

        • Out of place Met fan 1 year ago

          Arrietta has been solid, and I dont see Theo dealing him. More likely spend the 100+ on a front of rotation starter this year to pair with him. Then take stock as the pitching prospect (which I think get under valued because of the bats in the system) develop. Go all in on Price as a FA in 2016

    • bigbadjohnny 1 year ago

      Glad Cubs made no so such trade.

    • jb226 1 year ago

      I wouldn’t have done that, even if I was guaranteed that Price would re-sign. Not because I think Arrietta is a better pitcher, but because we need essentially an entire staff. I’ll take my chances keeping Arrietta and picking up Lester and/or Price in subsequent offseasons.

      • Trock 1 year ago

        Definitely fair enough. I am hopeful they nab shields in the offseason.

  51. rizdak 1 year ago

    Seattle gets an everyday centerfielder for Nick Franklin?? Huh… Sad day for Rays fans.

    • DieHardMsFan 1 year ago

      I know right! Love this trade can’t wait to see him manning CF for the next year and a half and hopefully a lot longer (M’s don’t really have any good CF prospects).

  52. northsfbay 1 year ago

    Other than Price, there is nothing earth shattering about this trade.

  53. northsfbay 1 year ago

    Other than Price, there is nothing earth shattering about this trade.

  54. YankeeFan™ 1 year ago

    Im still wondering why didn’t Oakland get in on Price looking at what the Rays received i think Oakland could have sent a better package and they wouldn’t even have to give up Cespedes.

    • northsfbay 1 year ago

      It is reported that the Rays A’s talks didn’t go anywhere. The Rays blew it.

    • Tom 1 year ago

      I imagine it’s because Oakland couldn’t afford the 20 million Salary next year.

      • Seamaholic 1 year ago

        This. A’s don’t have $20m players. Doesn’t fit.

      • Todd Smith 1 year ago

        A’s could have used Price as a rental and then traded him in the offseason. The A’s probably could have gotten a better return than what the Rays got today anyway. I was hoping the Pirates would go that route as well.

      • Todd Smith 1 year ago

        A’s could have used Price as a rental and then traded him in the offseason. The A’s probably could have gotten a better return than what the Rays got today anyway. I was hoping the Pirates would go that route as well.

  55. cgriffith 1 year ago

    The Tigers today said we see you Oakland, and we raise you;

    • OaklandFan22 1 year ago

      Good Luck

      • northsfbay 1 year ago

        Bring it on Tigers fan.

      • cgriffith 1 year ago

        Should be fun, see you in October (don’t overlook the Halos though)

        • Seamaholic 1 year ago

          Scary to imagine that Tigers rotation against a weakened A’s lineup w/o Cespedes. I dunno. I’d take Tigers 99 out of 100 in that series. Assuming health of course.

    • Alex Foltz 1 year ago

      “They made that trade because of us” -Verlander

  56. Victoria Roberts 1 year ago

    Didn’t the Rays get more for Shields?

    • DieHardMsFan 1 year ago

      Yes, but Shields was controlled for two full year as opposed to a year and two month rental. Plus Shields was cheap for those two years while Price will be paid about 20mm next year. They also included a cost controlled Wade Davis in the deal. I feel like the 20mm salary next year limited the market for Price to only a few teams.

      • Seamaholic 1 year ago

        The $20m is key I think. The Rays tried to play it super cool but I suspect they absolutely HAD to trade him now or in the off-season. They just couldn’t afford him next year. Maybe other teams picked up on that? Or I dunno what happened. I’m sure they got what they could.

        • DieHardMsFan 1 year ago

          Exactly. Teams like the Pirates cannot afford to gamble on Price only to trade him for lesser prospects in the offseason. Although saying that I don’t think the Rays got a really good return in the first place. Unless they really value that 18 year old SS…

      • Victoria Roberts 1 year ago

        True, but Price is a much better pitcher. And they could have held onto him until the offseason and traded him then to teams that lost the starter sweepstakes. I think they could have done better without having to pay next years salary.

        • DieHardMsFan 1 year ago

          I was just answering the original posters question and giving my answer as to why Shields got a better return. I am with you in that the return was very underwhelming and they should have just kept Price and made a run for a wild card this year and traded Price this winter….

    • YankeeFan™ 1 year ago


  57. johansantana15 1 year ago

    Why didn’t the Dodgers get Price if that’s all it took? Pederson = Jackson, Guerrero = Franklin, Lee = Smyly

    • Evan 1 year ago


    • Matt 1 year ago

      Rays got Smyly, Franklin, and a SS Prospect. Surely the Dodgers could have easily topped that building a package solely around Joc Pederson.

      • johansantana15 1 year ago

        Exactly, they could have gotten him trading only one of Pederson/Seager/Urias. I would’ve done that in a heartbeat if I were Coletti.

  58. Richard Curreri 1 year ago

    If it’s middle infield talent and a low-cost, decent young SP the Rays were after, wouldn’t they have been better served pulling the trigger 4 weeks ago on Beane’s offer of an Addison Russell package? Russell, plus maybe Tommy Milone (fairly similar to Smyly, although slightly older and a lesser pitcher), and a mid tier prospect strikes me as a much better haul than what the Rays got here.

  59. bigbadjohnny 1 year ago

    Of all the big name pitchers traded, Lester, Lackey, Price, Masterson, the Cubs got the most for Samardzija.

    • Out of place Met fan 1 year ago

      Have to disagree, Cespedas is an AS one only hopes Russel is sometime

      • bigbadjohnny 1 year ago

        Cespedes is a FA after 2015.
        He will leave Boston.

        • Out of place Met fan 1 year ago

          He may leave, but he can also crush 45 calling that stadium home. Have to admit their offense is looking a lot better next season and pitching is there for the buying this winter. Plus they still have their prospects as capital. I like their chances in 2015 for the AL East

        • Victoria Roberts 1 year ago

          That depends. Sox have over a year to try and extend him, and he can’t be QOed because of his contract. I think they intend to try and resign him.

    • Seamaholic 1 year ago

      Probably so, but in their case it all boils down to one minor league phenom. If Russell doesn’t turn out great, it’s not true. Smyly is pretty much a known quantity, and so are Cespedes, Craig, and Kelly.

    • d-blaqueqq 1 year ago

      The real winner is Stonewall Amaro for not losing.

  60. Joseph Kraus 1 year ago

    I’m sick……so SICK right now. I need a beer.

  61. Fat, Ugly Inner-City Sweathog 1 year ago

    This is amazing. Scherzer/Price/Verlander/Sanchez in the playoffs? Presumably against Lester/Samardzjia/Kazmir/Gray? That is can’t-miss TV

    • bigbadjohnny 1 year ago

      30 more days of non waiver deals to come.

  62. bigbadjohnny 1 year ago

    Winners & Losers for trade deadline……….
    Winners……….A’s, Tigers, Cardinals, Red Sox, Cubs
    A’s – Got two big time pitchers in Lester Samardzija
    Cardinals – Got two big time pitchers in Lackey & Masterson
    Tigers – Got Price for nothing
    Red Sox – cleared contracts off the books
    Cubs – got great prospects in Russell, McKinney & Caratini
    Losers – Phillies, Rays, Rangers, Yankees
    Phillies – could not dump big contracts
    Rays – lost out big time on getting something for Price
    Rangers – could not trade for a rebuild
    Yankees – could not pull a big trade, just little deals

    • badgerpit 1 year ago

      M’s traded franklin for jackson. – win

      • EightMileCats 1 year ago

        Very true.
        Ajax is a solid defensive cf with a good bat (streaky sometimes)

    • Frederick Darwin Quixote 1 year ago

      I doubt the Yanks were really trying for more than details. And the team they have this year isn’t worth spending the farm to patch up.

    • Matt 1 year ago

      Lackey and Masterson aren’t “Big time” pitchers. Lackey is good (Not great, but good) and Masterson has been awful this year.

  63. Joseph Kraus 1 year ago

    Rays trade David Price for service time…..Way to go Rays!

  64. Ace2095 1 year ago

    Can someone give me a scouting report on Joe Kelly and Craig? I haven’t had time to look into looking up what they’ve been able to do.

    • Tko11 1 year ago

      Craig is 30 years old, a poor defender, he had 3 good offensive season prior to this year but is struggling mightily this season. Joe Kelly is 26 and most likely will be a 4-5 starter. Not really anything exciting. The only good thing is they are under control for a while.

      • Seamaholic 1 year ago

        This seems about right, except that I’d add that Craig’s bad year does seem, from a distance, to be more than random. His bat seems to have slowed way down. Can’t pull anything inside anymore. Kelly is a ground ball guy who had a terrific year last year without seeming to have great stuff. This year has been more like what you’d expect from a 4-5 starter.

        • Tko11 1 year ago

          Yeah but he only pitched like 120 innings or so last year as well.

      • Ace2095 1 year ago

        Is Kelly now the Ace of the Red Sox by default? Also can Craig use the green monster to his advantage and rack up the XBH’s or is there no hope in that department?

        • Tko11 1 year ago

          Like Seamaholic said below, his bat speed has diminished so unless he can regain it, he probably wont be pulling the ball much. Id still say Buchholz or De La Rosa would be the #1 over Kelly.

          • Ace2095 1 year ago

            I would pick De La Rosa over Buchholz tbh, I honestly think Buchholz is pitching injured like Lackey was three years ago, it seems like the only reasonable excuse as to why he’s pitched so badly.

    • d-blaqueqq 1 year ago

      Kelly-Good fastball. Fast sinker with good movement, changeup, sometimes a curve. Been struggling lately, but has potential.

    • d-blaqueqq 1 year ago

      Craig- Gotten cold, but has the potential for power numbers, okay-ish defensively, fits in RF for the moment with the Sox. Funnily enough, he was the guy that tripped over WMB and won game 2 of the WS for St. Louis.

  65. bigbadjohnny 1 year ago

    Lets cut to the chase….A’s vs Tigers……..LAD vs SF

    • Seamaholic 1 year ago

      SF? Not with Cain down. Sub Nats or Cards for sure.

      • bigbadjohnny 1 year ago

        Masterson will get pounded…..and Lackey could be also.

        • Don 1 year ago

          Masterson is going to be very good against National League teams. He won’t have to face an AL team until the World Series. Dismiss at your own risk.

    • DetroitTigers 1 year ago

      Its going to be Tigers vs Dodgers

  66. Tko11 1 year ago

    Wow………………….So the Tigers got Price for Jackson and Smyly, what a steal. The Rays got straight robbed. I thought they had to be overwhelmed in order to deal Price.

    • DieHardMsFan 1 year ago

      I agree with you here, but maybe that is why we are typing comments here while they get paid to make decisions. Maybe Franklin/Smyly/Adames are highly valued and highly sought after players/prospects among MLB GM’s. Our opinion is largely based on top 100 lists that were compiled by “experts” who are obviously not good enough to land a job in an MLB front office. Guess time will tell…

    • Ace2095 1 year ago

      I honestly think the M’s got the best value out of any of the teams in this deal because they gave up a guy who was blocked by Cano for a top of the order bat who can help fix their outfield problem.

      • northsfbay 1 year ago

        Why are you jumping threw hoops to get to Jackson?

  67. Ace2095 1 year ago

    Is it possible Zobrist/Hamels/Lee could all pass through waivers? (I think Lee will for sure just not sure about the other)

    • DieHardMsFan 1 year ago

      Zobrist will not pass through waivers. He will get claimed. I imagine Hamels will as well as he is valuable. A team like the Dodgers or Yankees will claim him.

      • Ace2095 1 year ago

        I could see a team like the Mariners placing a claim on Zobrist because I feel he would be a good outfield bat for them if they could work something out with the Rays because he hits lefties pretty well. I’m just not sure if he could make it to them.

        • DieHardMsFan 1 year ago

          I wouldn’t mind Zobrist as well but he will be claimed long before the M’s have a chance. I think the Red Sox still want to contend next year and they will claim Zobrist if given the chance.

          • Ace2095 1 year ago

            They might but I don’t think they would be able to get an interdivision trade done, although they do have the pieces to pull it off and it they gave the Rays some pitching prospects they might be able to pull it off.

          • DieHardMsFan 1 year ago

            Ok well they will still claim him regardless as than the Rays will pull him back. Just block the Rays from trading him somewhere for some value. That way Zobrist won’t be traded till the offseason.

    • PhilliesPhan4102 1 year ago

      Zobrist would get claimed for sure. Hamels would be claimed by the Dodgers if the Yankees or the Red Sox didn’t claim him. If Lee pitches at least 1 or 2 games during the next few weeks and does well, someone will claim him.

      • Ace2095 1 year ago

        I think somebody would be more eager to deal for Hamels this year and then might see Lee as a fallback option.

      • Don 1 year ago

        The Red Sox are like the seventh worst team in the league right now and they have the money to pay… if Hamels went on waivers he wouldn’t drop any further than that.

    • Matt 1 year ago

      No chance. All will get claimed. Either by teams that want them, or teams that are trying to block other teams from getting them. Not like the Rays or Phillies will let any of them go for nothing.

      • Ace2095 1 year ago

        But the question is who will claim them? I can see the Yankees or Mariners placing a claim on Zobrist, and the Giants/Dodgers/Cardinals placing a claim on Hamels or Lee, The giants might even place a claim on Rollins if he’s put on waivers and try to either use him or Crawford at Second (Although I’m not sure if either of them could handle second)

        • Matt 1 year ago

          Giants might put in a claim on all of them, just to block the Dodgers and because they could use someone like Zobrist

          • Ace2095 1 year ago

            Would Zobrist even make it to the Giants?

          • Matt 1 year ago

            Not likely. Doesn’t it go thru AL teams first then to NL teams? Giants would be at the end of the line if so.

          • Eric Murray 1 year ago

            It flucuates. Starts off with records from last year and when you claim a guy you go to the back of the waiver order. Not AL,teams then NL teams lol. What NL GM would agree to that rule?

          • jb226 1 year ago

            Waiver priority is given to the player’s current league first. It’s not “AL then NL” specifically — AL players are offered to AL teams first, NL players are offered to NL teams first.

          • Matt 1 year ago

            I was talking about in regards to Zobrist specifically, that is why I sad AL first.

        • Joe Puhlman 1 year ago

          Every team in the league would put in a claim on Zobrist.

          • Aircool 1 year ago

            I don’t know about every team, but a lot of teams probably would yes. I don’t think the Astros would bother.

    • PhilliesPhan4102 1 year ago

      Lee just walked out of the game in the 3rd. He hurt his elbow again. Shame

    • Eric Murray 1 year ago

      You guys do realize their is a gentleman’s agreement in August that if a GM has a deal in place and informs other GM’s of said deal they don’t claim them except the team getting them, right?

      • Ace2095 1 year ago

        Then what’s the point of teams blocking trades.

        • Eric Murray 1 year ago

          And when has that ever occured?

          • Ace2095 1 year ago

            Teams claim players all the time to block another team from claiming them.

          • Eric Murray 1 year ago

            During the year yes. In August, with a deal agreed upon and known around the league, no. Key words, in August.

          • Eric Murray 1 year ago

            It’s a different kind of waiver in August where the team can pull him back if it’s not a team they can get something out of.

          • FamousGrouse 1 year ago

            Randy Myers and the Padres in 1998 comes to mind right away.

      • Dogham 1 year ago

        Uh no….teams routinely put in claims to stop other teams from trades to make them better. The key is to be just a game or so behind them when you make the trade, so they can’t block it, then pass them.

  68. First Bleed 1 year ago

    JD Martinez definitely had something to do with making Jackson expendable. Who would have guessed that 2 months ago!

    • DetroitTigers 1 year ago

      Me lol i knew he was going to be traded

  69. Dogham 1 year ago

    Hopefully today will seal the fate of Jack Zduriencik in Seattle. Tigers end up getting Price from Rays for next to nothing, the M’s gain Austin Jackson, which straight up for Nick Franklin is good, but nothing was done to make an impact for this team or to address another starter for a playoff push. I absolutely hate the A’s, but wish Billy Beane was the M’s GM. He’s not afraid to pull the trigger on a big deal.

    • Ace2095 1 year ago

      The M’s don’t need starting pitching, It would of simply been a luxury if they got somebody like Price. You also say nothing was done to impact the team but adding Jackson does quite a bit to improve their outfield situation which was one of their major problems. So Jack Z did address their biggest need. Although it’s not a flashy move like acquiring price it’s still a solid move that could help them in their playoff push.

      • Aircool 1 year ago

        Don’t forget though Ace that the Tigers didn’t need starting pitching either… but it doesn’t hurt to have the last 3 AL Cy Young winners in your playoff rotation when you are pushing for a World Series… There is need and then there is what makes you better, David Price makes every team in Baseball better.

      • Dogham 1 year ago

        I have $1500 to put up that says the M’s won’t make the playoffs. The moves today was an improvement, but nothing to get them to the playoffs.

        • Ace2095 12 months ago

          I think the M’s have a legit shot at the second wild card, but then of course who doesn’t. They got Jackson who is very good at hitting lefties which is something they have failed to do this year. I believe that this could be a step in the right direction and that the M’s could come out and surprise everybody like the 2011 Diamondbacks did, or the 2013 Red Sox, or the 2012 Giants.

    • Christopher Giles 1 year ago

      Realistically Jack Z hasn’t done too bad considering the team he inherited when he took over. It’s taken him a bit longer than you could’ve hoped, but he came from a scouting/development background, and he’s done an excellent job of building the M’s farm system into something that should continue to feed the major league team for years to come.

      • GoRav114 1 year ago

        I agree, I thought they had lost their mind when they signed Cano but it seems like they do have a plan in place and def have some serious talent on that team.

    • Ty Blake 1 year ago

      Would you have rather traded away Walker for a few months of Price? So that Price could join Felix in losing 3-0 and 2-0 games? Doesn’t matter if we had Price or not. We’re not getting past the A’s scoring one or two runs.

      • Dogham 1 year ago

        I’m saying the Rays ended up settling for a lot less than everyone thought it would take to get Price. The M’s should have been able to package something better than what the Rays ended up with even without trading Walker. As for Price, it’s more than just a few months, he is under contract next year also, so Tigers already positioned for a run next year also. Even adding Austin Jackson, which again straight up for Nick Franklin is a good move, but still not the impact offensive player the M’s needed. It’s terrible when your biggest offensive weapon is your 2nd year catcher. M’s need another Thumper in the lineup.

    • Hoosierdaddy92 12 months ago

      I would argue that Jack Z got the overall best bat he could acquire at the deadline. Teams did not want to move position players that could make an impact this season. For all the players that moved, the three best proven hitters were Yoenis Cespedes, Austin Jackson, and Allen Craig. Craig is having a terrible year and is a big risk and the A’s weren’t going to trade Cespedes intra-division and heighten the chances of facing King Felix in a one-game playoff. Jackson is an above average hitter and fielder and controllable for several seasons at a position of need for them (CF). Hard to acquire something like that.

  70. bobbybaseball 1 year ago

    Not as much of a return for Price as I had thought.

  71. Don 1 year ago

    This deal made me feel much better about the return the Red Sox received for Lester and Lackey. What were the Rays thinking?

    • godewey
      godewey 1 year ago

      I thought the same thing but this is what they do.. Friedman has done alright.
      Maybe he overreacted. He said he didn’t think he could get this much back
      if he waited until the off season.

    • GoRav114 1 year ago

      I feel like the Rays finally made a trade mistake, it happens all the time, just not usually to the Rays. They certainly got better return with Shields and Price is a superior pitcher.

  72. GameMusic3 1 year ago

    Rays got completely robbed. Should have got Addison Russell from the A’s when they could.

    • Eric Murray 1 year ago

      As if Addison Russell was ever on the table for Price….while the rays look like they got less for price than many thought, Andrew Friedman has a proven track record as a GM of a small market team and bring successful. He took a guy that is uncontrolled thru 2015 and wasn’t going to resign anyways and turned it into a promising 25 year old controlled thru 2018, a 2B with potential and in a logjam in Seattle after getting Cano, controlled thru 2020 and an 18 year old SS prospect whose holding his own in a league where he is the youngest player and by all accounts is a good all around SS prospect jumping immediately to the rays #2 prospect on MLB.com. it’s all about filing every hole with decent controllable players instead of having 1 stud who you realistically can’t resign.

      • Aircool 1 year ago

        What do you mean as if Addison Russell was ever on the table for Price? You would rather have Jeff Samardzija and Jason Hammel over David Price? I don’t quite understand your logic… if Russell was on the table for the Cubs he was on the table for the Rays that is for sure. The thing is Friedman somehow wound up with spare parts for Price… Franklin had no position in Seattle, and Smyly has no spot in the rotation if Price comes in, so in a David Price trade he is expendable… Then Detroit sends Austin Jackson who is a .270 hitter with little power and maybe slightly above average speed to Seattle… and a shortstop prospect in Low A… Nobody gave up anything significant except the Rays… Bad trade for sure.

        EDIT: Please keep in mind I’m not saying these guys will or won’t pan out, and that they won’t be successful I’m just saying you can get better pieces than that.

        • Jim Johnson 1 year ago

          I don’t think it’s a guarantee that Russell was on the table for Tampa. Price comes with a much bigger price tag than Shark.

          • Aircool 1 year ago

            Yes and No… Samardzija came along with Hammel and their combined salary is 11 Million this year with Samardzija going to arbitration next year. Price makes 14 Million this year. Furthermore Billy Beane proceeded to pick up Jon Lester, although admittedly while moving out Cespedes but that is still taking on more money.. All indications are that Oakland ownership is willing to spend 3-5 Million. Price would probably earn something like 16-19 million next year through arbitration which is more than Samardzija will cost next year for the As… but its David Price, what owner wouldn’t bite that bullet… Worst case scenario they could flip him in the winter after trying a run at the World Series… so it definitely could be done, plus there is nothing to say that Tampa can’t take on a little salary in a Price Trade for a better return. Be it in retaining salary or in taking back a roster player.

          • Eric Murray 1 year ago

            Simply put the A’s wouldn’t bite the bullet. Few teams can field a competitive team with 1 guy making that much, and Oakland is one of those teams.

          • Aircool 1 year ago

            Then you flip him in the Winter after your post season run… big deal you probably get a similar return to what you spent and you had David Price for a post season run… but the notion that Russell is somehow off the table for Price but on the table for Samardzija who is giving up homeruns twice as often in the AL as he was in the NL this year, and Jason Hammel who is not going to pitch in the rotation for the post season making him a bullpen arm….. C’mon man.

          • Eric Murray 1 year ago

            He was off the table cuz the cubs have him lol. You’re acting like these deals were made simultaneously. The price for Price is going to be less this off-season because he has 1 year of control whereas a team gets him now to help win a championship and another year of control they’re willing to pay more for that.

          • Aircool 1 year ago

            Yeah because the return for David Price was sooo good right now…. Detroit paid more alright!!! I know the Cubs have Russell… but don’t act like David Price wasn’t on the trade block 1-2 months ago. We all know he was….. You think Oakland didn’t inquire?

          • Eric Murray 1 year ago

            Never heard the A’s linked to price this whole time….like I’ve said before the A’s only made Russell available to the cubs if Samardzija AND Hammel were involved. Not one or the other. Price wasn’t going to be dealt until today and you know that. Not in the run they’ve been on.

          • Aircool 1 year ago

            Before the run started…. when they were in the toilet? You don’t think they would have traded him for a good return? It seems to me Andrew Friedman made a rushed decision because he feared he would get lowballed in the winter, which is entirely possible because everyone knows the Rays need to get rid of David Price… But I can appreciate you saying they would need both Samardzija and Hammel, there is a certain appeal to getting two starters back, but Hammel was never pitching in the post season anyway, so wouldn’t you rather have David Price pitching for you instead of Samardzija in the post season, because I think you would agree it was beyond doubt that the As would make it to the post season this year when they made the Samardzija trade.

          • Aircool 1 year ago

            Yeah because the return for David Price was sooo good right now…. Detroit paid more alright!!! I know the Cubs have Russell… but don’t act like David Price wasn’t on the trade block 1-2 months ago. We all know he was….. You think Oakland didn’t inquire?

          • Eric Murray 1 year ago

            Simply put the A’s wouldn’t bite the bullet. Few teams can field a competitive team with 1 guy making that much, and Oakland is one of those teams.

          • Jim Johnson 1 year ago

            Tampa isn’t taking on salary.

          • Aircool 1 year ago

            I didn’t say a lot of salary, we are talking 1-2 million or taking back a useful roster player that has a smaller salary, like how Boston took back Cespedes… That was their haul for Lester… They were willing to pay Price to play the entire year if they were in the hunt for the post season… so even though they would get some salary back in a roster players salary it would still be less than David Price’s salary… so they would still be shedding payroll and acquiring talent…. So yeah they would.

            Rather than reply to the exact same comment again Jim Johnson… I will edit this one… Tampa won’t take on useless salary, but if they take back a player making 2-5 million and he is a good player that balances the salary, and if he is a good player, Tampa will want him as part of the return.. Teams often look at salary when making trades… one GM might propose something and the other might say, I’m taking on too much salary I need to change one of the pieces I’m giving up with another that has more salary to balance it out… and then negotiations really start…..

          • Jim Johnson 1 year ago

            Tampa isn’t taking on salary.

        • Eric Murray 1 year ago

          Price has a bigger price tag than Samardzija. There’s a value difference there for most clubs, especially the A’s. They aren’t going to get saddled with price 18+M,arbitration next year, so yes the A’s preferred Samardzija. I also have seen on this site, they only were willing to add Russell if they got Samardzija AND hammel. Not one or the other. Had p Price had more controlled time and less of an arbitration estimate for next year the return would’ve netted them Russell, but Russell was never on the table

        • Eric Murray 1 year ago

          Also, you act like you were right next to Andrew Friedman this whole process….if he could’ve gotten better don’t you think he would have? Spare parts? Smyly and Franklin were in logjam situations. Both the tigers and mariners had more proven commodities in page ahead of them making more money…

  73. Matt Talbert 1 year ago

    Maybe DDDDD will sign both to extensions and you’d have Max, Price, and Sanchez which is pretty sick. The trade off was minimal. You only really lost Smyly and AJax. Pretty solid deal for Detroit I think (with their bench).

    • Aircool 1 year ago

      Very good deal for Detroit… Austin Jackson was a solid player, but he wasn’t a star… he had one good year, but even then he isn’t all that fast nor does he hit for power, its like trading Jackson to transform Smyly into Price…. Definite win.

    • $114759666 1 year ago

      The odds of the Tigers extending Max and Price while still paying on JV/Miggy’s contract is astronomically low. Max is almost certainly gone this off season.

  74. DetroitTigers 1 year ago

    All right! Its official. Tigers vs Dodgers world series.

    • Aircool 1 year ago

      Tigers vs Athletics ALCS would be an appropriate statement after today… but I don’t really get the whole assumption that the Tigers win the ALCS or that the Dodgers win the NLDS forget the NLCS…. At least not after today, The Dodgers didn’t get any better today, and the Tigers didn’t get much better if at all than the As today, so I mean I don’t know why its Official at this particular moment.

      • DetroitTigers 1 year ago

        Hmmm well definitely A’s vs Tigers but i think they will win again.

        • Aircool 1 year ago

          Yeah I edited my post above, I just don’t see how its any more official today than it was yesterday… if it even if Official, I personally think the As might win the World Series this year as crazy as that sounds… they have a great ballclub… But so do the Tigers… should be a great post season but I think its painfully obvious the AL is winning the world series this year.. the 3 best teams in baseball are in the AL and they have home field.

          • DetroitTigers 1 year ago

            I guess we cant really tell until it happens.

          • Aircool 1 year ago


      • Paul Shailor 1 year ago

        Since 2006 the Tigers have only beaten 2 teams in the playoffs, the A’s and the Yankees. We didnt really detract from our offense and the A’s lost their second best hitter. Ill take the Tigers and Jvs insane dominance over them which he continued last year even after a sub par regular season.

        • Aircool 1 year ago

          Its possible, but I mean Verlander choked in the post season the last couple years, pretty badly… and he has had a bad regular season so I mean I wouldn’t take that as any sort of evidence… I’m not saying the Tigers will lose, but I don’t think its a foregone conclusion…. The Tigers may very well win the ALCS. Yoenis Cespedes is a low average hitter though, I don’t think he was really that valuable .256 Average, .303 OBP and 17 Home Runs… I think the As will be better off with Lester than him in the post season… Hitters like that just don’t succeed when facing the best of the best in the post season…

          • bobbleheadguru 1 year ago

            1. From a performance standpoint this year, you are discussing the Tigers FIFTH best starting pitcher at the moment (out of 5).

            2. That being stated, Verlander gave up ONE RUN in 23 innings pitched in the post season last year. Hardly “Choked”.

          • Aircool 1 year ago

            Kk I didn’t look up the stats, but I was mostly referring to his lack of success in the world series. I should have been more clear. But upon looking up his stats, I have seen that he has only really been there twice… although one could argue twice is a lot for one career. The more concerning thing is that his ERA in the ALDS is 1.79, in the ALCS its 3.55 and in the WS its 7.20 which is a bad trend… The tigers aren’t playing for anything short of a World Series and the deeper Verlander goes the worse he gets… although the sample size is admittedly small. But what post season sample size isn’t.

          • Paul Shailor 1 year ago

            I think you need to look up his stats, verlander allowed no runs in 15 innings against the As last year with 12.6 k/9. He also allowed 1 run in 8 ip against the red sox.

            The As are fifth in the majors in homers and 15th in average, they rely on the long ball. The tigers did that in the past and now they are moving past that as it doesnt work in the playoffs.

            I disagree, I think it is a foregone conclusion. We have beat the A’s every single time they have made the postseason since 06 due to our pitching. Their offense is not as good as last year and once again they will lose.

  75. hozie007 1 year ago

    Look for Tigers to make another move before September to bolster the pen.

  76. Karl Larson 1 year ago

    This feels like the Bartolo Colon to the Expos trade. Crippling for the Rays.

  77. Stoibs 1 year ago

    Just doesn’t make sense. How do you trade a year and a half of the third best starting pitcher in the world for this? This has to be about the money. They had to have overplayed their hand, then were forced to take basically the only offer. How do you not get one blue-chip prospect? I just don’t get it. This could be the nail that seals the coffin on the Rays for the next two, maybe three years. They needed that big starter. A sad day to be a Rays fan.

    • Every trade the Rays make is about the money. Hard to compete in a small market, let alone one where the fans refuse to show up.

  78. Better 12 months ago

    I think there’s a silver lining for the Rays…they’re on a great run right now, without Matt Moore.

    • DRays Jim 12 months ago

      I understand your optimism…but I’m not buying it. You can dress up the pig…put lipstick on the pig…but in the end…it’s still a freakin’ pig.

      I think this was two part trade; salary dump and getting a couple players they have liked a lot over the last couple years. I’m not arguing about the trade (even though I would not have traded him this season), I’m arguing the players they got back. I would have rather kept him through next season and got the compensatory first rounder instead of what they got.

      I just hope we are ‘all’ wrong and the three players they got all surpass our expectations.

      • Better 12 months ago

        I’m a Red Sox fan, I hope we are all right about the 3 players they got! I’m just saying that this team has played great lately and I don’t think losing Price completely cripples them because they replace him with Matt Moore next year. Boston wishes they could replace Lester with a “Matt Moore” kind of guy but their only hope is to land Scherzer or Lester in FA.

  79. Bob Love 12 months ago

    Does this make up for the awful Doug Fister trade the Tigers made earlier this season?

    Tigers got: Lambardozzi who got traded away for nothing, Krol for a ERA over 5 (which we call up Hardy that is 5 times as good, plus it looks like he got sent down), and Ray who is a typical low class lefty that is not a difference maker.

    If the Tigers don’t trade Fister, then Smiley goes to bullpen and they don’t have to worry so much about the bullpen. Plus i am sure the lack of potential the Rays got will even out some day when they trade Zobrist or whoever.

    • Hoosierdaddy92 12 months ago

      I would say it absolutely does. Price is better than Fister and had less injury concerns. Plus moving Fister allowed them to “audition” Smyly for teams this season as a starter. I don’t think the Rays would have been as interested in him if they hadn’t gotten to see what Smyly could do at the major league level for half a season.

  80. Hoosierdaddy92 12 months ago

    That three-team Tigers-Diamondbacks-Yankees trade is just the gift that keeps on giving for the Tigers. Tigers land Scherzer and Ajax in that deal, giving up only Edwin Jackson and Curtis Granderson. Tigers now land David Price for AJax, one other top prospect, and a lowball prospect. Love it. Meanwhile Curtis Granderson has been solid, but much more expensive the past few seasons and Edwin Jackson, is, well, Edwin Jackson.

  81. Charles Kime 12 months ago

    Looks like this just lit a fire under Sanchez. Now if it does the same for Verlander, Tigers should a have a long post season…

  82. TWWxKeys 1 year ago

    It absolutely MUST be the Rays

  83. Jon 1 year ago

    Yeah to the Rays

  84. letsgogiants 1 year ago

    Colon would be an OK acquisition, but it would be nowhere near the impact Price would bring to the team.

  85. GrayhawkAZ 1 year ago

    TB needs more

  86. Mike Sutton 1 year ago

    Uhh, you’re massively undervaluing Cespedes…

  87. Mike Sutton 1 year ago

    Napoli would be a wonderful upgrade at 1B.

  88. Mike Sutton 1 year ago

    As long as it didn’t include Walker, Paxton or Peterson, I wouldn’t care. :)

  89. westcoastwhitesox 1 year ago

    that would be so sweeet

  90. Ace2095 1 year ago

    Doesn’t Napoli have another year on his contract after this one?

  91. Mike Sutton 1 year ago

    I have to imagine that’s Montero

  92. Ace2095 1 year ago

    Can Montero play catcher? At all?

  93. Ace2095 1 year ago

    Alright no defensive value there, If the Sox trade Napoli they would slot Craig at 1st, I don’t think they would want Montero. I think the Sox would want Sanchez or Wilson in a Napoli deal

  94. westcoastwhitesox 1 year ago

    I can tease, I’m a fan. A very excited fan to see Austin Jackson coming to Seattle!

  95. DetroitTigers 1 year ago

    You can keep him! lol

  96. DetroitTigers 1 year ago

    lol i know

  97. GD 1 year ago

    And Seattle retains all of their Top Prospects to boot.

  98. Silence 1 year ago

    Not for the Tigers or the Mariners, but this is atrocious for the Rays.

    I’m glad RAJ didn’t trade Hamels for a bag of balls like TB did to price.

  99. Ace2095 1 year ago

    Wouldn’t Lee and possibly Hamels also pass through waivers?

  100. DieHardMsFan 1 year ago

    I don’t think the M’s really need a starter though. We have Felix/Kuma/Young as our top three and two of Elias/Walker/Paxton/Ramirez can fill out the rotation. I am just pumped that Z did not trade either Walker or Paxton as if they come back healthy they can be used this winter to acquire a big bat as there really is no good FA hitters. I also don’t like the idea of acquiring Cliff Lee as the M’s may as well wait till this offseason and sign Lester for pretty much the same amount of money.

  101. Kaiser 1 year ago

    I’m burning my copy of The Extra 2%,,, and I read it on my kindle

  102. Aircool 1 year ago

    Cano starts because he is the best second baseman in Baseball its not even close…. Nick Franklin doesn’t start at short or even in the outfield where they have given him some reps in the minors as well as a little in the majors because he isn’t better than any of the players currently starting there…. And Detroit spends a lot of money on their roster… a very expensive roster… so trust me when I say they don’t care about who makes more money when they choose who plays, because they put the best team out there…. Mike Ilitch is all about winning, and that is why he spends his money like he does, to win!!! And the way he spends money, if a better player is making less money he won’t care… because he has got a lot of it.

  103. Aircool 1 year ago

    Cano starts because he is the best second baseman in Baseball its not even close…. Nick Franklin doesn’t start at short or even in the outfield where they have given him some reps in the minors as well as a little in the majors because he isn’t better than any of the players currently starting there…. And Detroit spends a lot of money on their roster… a very expensive roster… so trust me when I say they don’t care about who makes more money when they choose who plays, because they put the best team out there…. Mike Ilitch is all about winning, and that is why he spends his money like he does, to win!!! And the way he spends money, if a better player is making less money he won’t care… because he has got a lot of it.

  104. Bob Bunker 1 year ago

    How about a PTBL like Alex Jackson haha

  105. DieHardMsFan 12 months ago

    Edwin Jackson’s ERA+ this year is at 67 and has been on the decline for the last four years. He is also signed through 2016 at 11 million per year. 11 million can buy the M’s a much better player.

    Ryan Howard is washed up and is owed a lot of money. If the Phillies pick up 99% of his contract without the M’s giving anything back maybe…I also don’t understand the whole Cespedes thing. He is a slugger who doesn’t get on base enough. Might as well trade for Alvarez and buy low on a similar bat…

    Why put Pike on waivers? You don’t have to put him on waivers if you want to trade him.

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