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jd396
I wouldn’t mind giving Tolleson a shot.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
What about Dozier for McCutchen?
Same contracts almost.
I don’t know what the Twins need but the Pirates could use Dozier at 2B and use Harrison in a utility role with lots of starts in RF.
jd396
Same contracts? Dozier will get $6m next year and $9m in 2018. McCutchen is at $14m with a $14.5 option for 2018. Regardless, if the Twins trade Dozier it’ll be for prospects. A lateral trade isn’t going to do it.
gojira15
More like Dozier for Glasnow, Bell and Harrison. Sorry, Bucs fans.
WAH1447
Hahahaha what a terrible trade for the pirates nobody would consider that trade
gojira15
Yep, steep prices for cheap, elite players. Imagine that.
stryk3istrukuout
Well he will be 30 next year. He’s been good for awhile, but who knows if last year was an outlier? As well, this is a team trying to get younger, not older. That’s one view.
On the other hand, Dozier could be exactly what the team needs for the offense evolve. In the perfect scenario, Cole and Taillon are both healthy and finally deliver the 1-2 punch long been dreamt of.
unsaturatedmatz
Glasnow and Bell is a more realistic price. The only knock on Dozier is hit consistency (he’s had 3 monster half-seasons and 3 slightly below average half seasons in the last 3 full years). The positive is that when he gets hot, he will carry the team for at least a month like none other.
twins33
Doubt it would take anything close to that for someone to get Dozier off the Twins hands. As a Twins fan of course I’d like that deal, but I think it’s unrealistic.
gojira15
No way the Twins trade an star like Dozier for anything less than top prospects. He still has two years on his contract. You have to give up something good to get something good. That’s the risk in trading prospects for both sides.
twins33
I agree, but I think you’re rating Dozier like he’s Chris Sale..which he is not. Chris Sale would/should get more than that..but my point is I feel like you’re overrating Dozier.
He’s a 30 year old 2B who’s under contract for cheap, but he isn’t getting any younger and he’s playing the least important up the middle position on the field.
I don’t think the Twins are getting the level of talent back that you listed. I could see them getting Taillon plus 1-2 others, but there are a ton of teams who already have a good 2B. There’s about 10 average to above average 2B out there. Dozier is top 5. There is a very limited number of playoff caliber teams who need a Dozier. Maybe 4-5 teams. That may drive up the price, but maybe they just say it’s not worth it. I’d be surprised if a non-playoff caliber team would want Dozier but that’s a small possibility too.
I’m not fully sure I’d want the Twins to get Glasnow as his walks problem reminds me of Meyer who the Twins couldn’t figure out before. Maybe the new bosses can help change the development issues in the org, but maybe not. I’m not as extreme as the Twins were regarding walks, but you can’t walk everybody and his numbers keep going up every level while strikeouts are going down every level. Obviously way more worried about the walks problem as the strikeouts are still at a very good level.
gojira15
Good points. His value could be somewhere in between our valuations. After all, the Twins aren’t under any stress to move him. They could wait for his value to rise at the trade deadline or something and then deal him. Adds some risk, but he’s a player they should extract as much value from while they can.
twins33
Definitely agree, though I would hope they could trade him this offseason since he’s prone to months where he’s absolutely terrible (first two months of this year). I don’t want his value to drop, but I definitely want him traded (obviously not just for anything, but something of great need).
twins33
Twins need major league ready SP or major league ready C. McCutchen is great, but also older and doesn’t move the needle in the places the Twins need to move the needle (SP and C).
I would think it would take Taillon plus 1-2 lower level guys to get Dozier. Just a guess.
takeyourbase
Outfield is full already. Need pitching.
John Murray
It’s odd to say, but there are fewer elite first basemen in baseball today than either second basemen OR third basemen…
JT19
Yes, but that’s mainly because the league is shifting to where first basemen are not necessarily relied upon to be the big bat in the lineup. Teams are now valuing the ability to play respectable D but also willing to platoon at the spot if a single guy is asking for too much money. However, there are probably more good, starter quality, everyday first basemen today than second or third basemen.
chouwill83430
JT19, I totally agree!
chouwill83430
JT19, I totally agree with you!
stryk3istrukuout
I think Dozier stole Byung Ho Park’s power from him while he was sleeping.
Rickey O'Sunnyvale
Dozier to LA for DeLeon, Kenrick and Micah Johnson.
twins33
DeLeon makes sense but the other two don’t. Twins already have a 2B who is ready to take over and they also already have two utility guys who can play SS or 2B (one of which I would rather have off the team completely, but that’s another story).
joe 44
Verdugo, De Leon and Barnes plus a starting pitcher contract they want to get rid of (wood, kazmir, mccarthy)
comebacktrail28
I don’t no about the mix but Dozier to the Dodgers makes Sense