The National League champions reloaded for another run at the World Series, including a $300MM splurge on Trea Turner.
Major League Signings
- Trea Turner, SS: Eleven years, $300MM
- Taijuan Walker, SP: Four years, $72MM
- Matt Strahm, RP: Two years, $15MM
- Craig Kimbrel, RP: One year, $10MM
- Josh Harrison, IF/OF: One year, $2MM
2023 spending: $64.77M
Total spending: $399MM
- Aaron Nola, SP: Phillies exercised $16MM club option for 2023 season
- Jean Segura, 2B: Phillies declined $17MM club option for 2023 season ($1MM buyout)
- Zach Eflin, SP: Declined his end of a $15MM mutual option for 2023 season ($150K buyout)
Trades & Claims
- Acquired RP Gregory Soto and UTIL Kody Clemens from the Tigers for OF Matt Vierling, IF/OF Nick Maton, and C Donny Sands
- Acquired RP Yunior Marte from Giants for RP prospect Erik Miller
- Acquired RP Erich Uelmen from Cubs for cash considerations
- Claimed OF Jake Cave off waivers from Orioles
- Claimed RP Luis Ortiz off waivers from Giants
- Claimed RP Andrew Vasquez off waivers from Giants
- Selected SP Noah Song from Red Sox in the Rule 5 Draft
Notable Minor League Signings
- Aramis Garcia, Vimael Machin, Louis Head, John Hicks, Jon Duplantier, Jesus Cruz, Jake Jewell, Mark Appel, Jeremy Walker, Kyle Hart, Ben Bowden, Dustin Peterson
- Jose Alvarado, RP: Two years, $18.5MM (includes $500K buyout of $9MM club option for 2026; Alvarado had previously agreed to a $3.45MM salary for the 2023 season)
- Seranthony Dominguez, RP: Two years, $7.25MM (includes $500K buyout of $8MM club option for 2025)
- Segura, Eflin, Vierling, Maton, Sands, Noah Syndergaard, David Robertson, Kyle Gibson, Brad Hand, Sam Coonrod, Johan Camargo, Chris Devenski, Vinny Nittoli
Months before the end of the regular season and before the Phillies made their Cinderella run through the playoffs, there was already speculation that the club would be targeting a major upgrade at shortstop. Philadelphia at least checked in each of the “big four” free agent shortstops (Turner, Carlos Correa, Xander Bogaerts, Dansby Swanson), and there was at least some early indication that Xander Bogaerts might be atop the team’s list due to his past Red Sox history with Phils president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski.
As The Athletic’s Matt Gelb outlined in a piece in early December, Turner quickly emerged as the Phillies’ top priority, and the feeling seemed mutual on shortstop’s end. Turner was already friendly with Bryce Harper and hitting coach Kevin Long from their days together with the Nationals, and Philadelphia was an ideal geographical choice since the Turner family was reportedly prioritizing a move to the East Coast. Turner liked the fit enough that he reportedly turned down a $342MM offer from the Padres to join the Phillies.
Of course, it’s not like Turner exactly took a bargain rate. He became one of just six players to hit the $300MM threshold on a free-agent deal, and the Phillies’ second such signing (after Harper) within the last four years. There are plenty of similarities between the Harper and Turner contracts, including the fact that the Phillies spread out their money over the 13-year and 11-year spans of the respective deals in order to minimize the luxury tax hit as best as possible.
The Phillies had never exceeded the Competitive Balance Tax prior to the 2022 season, yet managing partner John Middleton has never been shy about spending during his seven-plus years in control of the franchise. That willingness to spend has now manifested into a deeper plunge into tax territory, as the Phillies’ current tax bill is projected at roughly $259.8MM — well over the second CBT penalty tier of $253MM. This means that the Phillies will pay a heavier tax rate both for this higher payroll, as for exceeding the CBT for two consecutive seasons. Exceeding the CBT line in 2022 also put extra consequences on the Turner signing, as because Turner rejected the Dodgers’ qualifying offer, the Phillies had to give up $1MM in international bonus money and their second- and fifth-highest picks in the 2023 draft.
That said, it’s a price ownership seem happy to pay now that the Phillies are finally back in contention. 2022 marked the Phils’ first postseason appearance since the 2011 season, and with an NL pennant now flying, the organization is eager to take the next step and lock down a World Series. Dombrowski’s front office will get plenty of opportunity to achieve this goal, as ownership extended Dombrowski through the 2027 season, and GM Sam Fuld and assistants GMs Jorge Velandia and Ned Rice all received extensions running through the 2025 season.
It will still be some time before we see the ideal version of this Phillies team, since Harper will be out until roughly the All-Star break as he recovers from Tommy John surgery. Even then, the Phils plan to utilize Harper only as a DH during the initial days or weeks of his return, with an eye towards possibly getting him back to his regular right-field duty by later in the season. While it’s an open question as to how any player will bounce back after a Tommy John procedure, it’s probably a good sign that Harper still posted superstar numbers in 2022 despite playing through a torn UCL for most of the season. Even a B or B+ version of Harper is still a boost to any lineup, so the Phillies will be eager to have him back as soon as possible.
Turner broadly fills the superstar gap in Harper’s absence, and he’ll add even more speed to an aggressive Philadelphia squad that finished fifth in MLB in stolen bases last year. The metrics have always been a little split on Turner from a defensive perspective, but between both his bat and his glove, there is no doubt he is a gigantic upgrade for the Phils at the shortstop position. Neither Didi Gregorius or Bryson Stott contributed much at shortstop over the course of the regular season, though Stott seemed to adjust later in his rookie season and at least managed to hold the fort as the regular starter throughout the playoffs.
Philadelphia saw enough in Stott that the former first-rounder is now being tasked with regular second base work, as the Phils let Jean Segura go to free agency (and a deal with the Marlins) after his $17MM club option was declined. While the Phillies would love to see Stott establish himself as a Major League regular, a win-now team can’t afford to give too much rope to a young player, which is why veteran Josh Harrison was signed to a one-year contract. Harrison and in-house utilityman Edmundo Sosa will provide depth at multiple positions, yet second base might be their first stop on the diamond if Stott requires a platoon partner or a timeshare.
Sticking with the Phillies’ bench situation, catchers Aramis Garcia and John Hicks were signed to minor league deals to add some more options behind the plate. These signings might prove valuable considering that Garrett Stubbs and Rafael Marchan are dealing with injury problems, leaving Philadelphia perhaps looking for a new secondary backstop to support All-Star J.T. Realmuto.
Donny Sands was formerly part of this catching mix, but Sands was dealt along with Matt Vierling and Nick Maton in a trade that shook up the Philadelphia bench. The Phils sent the trio to Detroit in exchange for reliever Gregory Soto and Kody Clemens, and while the versatile Clemens will help fill the void left by Vierling and Maton, Soto was the prize of the trade.
Soto is a two-time All-Star who is controlled through the 2025 season. There is plenty of volatility in Soto’s game, as he has an ungainly 13.1% walk rate over his career, and his hard-contact and strikeout numbers also dipped considerably from 2021 to 2022. However, while the Tigers utilized Soto as their closer, the Phillies might use Soto only as one high-leverage option among many. For now, manager Rob Thomson said his team will take a committee approach to the ninth inning, with newcomers Soto, Craig Kimbrel, and Matt Strahm vying for save chances alongside incumbents Seranthony Dominguez and Jose Alvarado.
Though the relief corps stayed steady for much of the postseason run, Philadelphia’s bullpen has long been a source of inconsistency, and more reinforcement was needed this winter since David Robertson, Brad Hand, and the injured Corey Knebel were all headed into free agency. (Sam Coonrod was also designated for assignment and then claimed off waivers by the Mets.) Dombrowski’s response was to make a plethora of lower-level waiver claims and minor league signings of relief options, and that depth was augmented by the higher-profile additions of Soto, Kimbrel, and Strahm.
Investing $25MM of free agent dollars into Kimbrel and Strahm won’t break the bank for a free-spending team like Philadelphia. However, both pitchers carry their share of question marks, since Kimbrel lost the closer’s job in Los Angeles last season and the Dodgers didn’t even include the veteran righty on their roster for the NLDS. Strahm has been solid enough throughout his seven MLB seasons that the Phillies were comfortable in betting on his ceiling, yet there was some sense that the Phils overpaid for his services. (As per The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal, the Strahm contract ended up creating a bit of a stalemate amongst other free agent southpaw relievers, who felt they should be matching or exceeding Strahm in total salary or average annual value.)
Some free-agent vacancies also needed to be filled in the rotation, as Zach Eflin, Kyle Gibson, and Noah Syndergaard all hit the open market and signed with other clubs. Prior to the Turner signing, there was some speculation that Philadelphia might target an available starter like Justin Verlander or Carlos Rodon as a big free-agent splash, though the team ended up aiming to a slightly lower tier by showing interest in Jameson Taillon and Taijuan Walker. With both pitchers reportedly receiving similar offers from the Phils, Walker took the deal, giving Philadelphia a solid No. 3 starter behind aces Zack Wheeler and Aaron Nola.
Walker bounced back from several injury-plagued seasons to become a valuable member of the Mets’ rotation, posting a 3.98 ERA over 316 1/3 innings with New York in 2021-22. The $72MM contract exceeded projections of what Walker might land on the open market, yet that price reflected the elevated cost of pitching this winter, and again underlined how the Phillies are willing to pay top dollar if they like a player. Since the Phils didn’t want to sign another player who rejected a qualifying offer, the fact that Walker and Taillon didn’t have QOs attached to their services also likely helped their markets.
Walker’s deal has already grown in importance given that the Phillies have run into some injury concerns in Spring Training. Ranger Suarez is dealing with some forearm tightness that isn’t thought to be too serious, but creates fresh doubt over Suarez’s readiness for the Opening Day roster. Depth starters Cristopher Sanchez and Nick Nelson have also been shut down with injuries, and in perhaps the most concerning development, star prospect Andrew Painter has been sidelined with a right UCL sprain. It will be close to four weeks before the highly-touted young righty will start lightly throwing, so between that timeline and Painter’s lack of Triple-A experience, his anticipated MLB debut might now be held off until closer to midseason at best.
Having Nola, Wheeler, and Walker atop a rotation is a pretty nice stopgap against depth questions, and the Phillies have another interesting young arm in Bailey Falter now set for at least a fifth starter role. Michael Plassmeyer probably leads the pack of potential starting candidates if the Phillies do need a replacement for Suarez, as it seems unlikely that the Phils would make a bold promotion of Mick Abel by jumping the top prospect from Double-A to the big leagues.
In bigger-picture rotation news, it seems possible that Nola and the Phillies might yet agree to a contract extension, as the two sides were exchanging figures last month. Nola is scheduled for free agency after the 2023 season, so locking up the righty early would establish Nola, Walker, Suarez, and the younger Falter/Painter/Abel trio as the future of the Phiadelphia pitching staff (and give the team some leverage in deciding what to do when Wheeler’s contract is up after the 2024 campaign). The Phillies have already been busy on the extension front in committing to Dominguez and Alvarado on multi-year deals, though naturally a Nola contract will be significantly more expensive.
For all of Philadelphia’s roster moves this offseason, an argument can be made that the club spent quite a bit just to fill holes and maintain their level of productivity from 2022. As noted, this new version of the Phillies won’t be entirely complete until Harper is healthy and joining his old friend Turner in the lineup, so treading water in the competitive NL East is a justifiable strategy until the Phillies have a better sense of what they’ll be getting from Harper. Plus, while no trade deadline acquisition would be as beneficial as a healthy Bryce Harper, it is safe to assume that Dombrowski is prepared to be again be aggressive at the deadline.
How would you grade the Phillies’ offseason? (poll link for app users)
I think they are in the top 3 of most improved teams (on paper) in baseball. That being said they made some questionable overpays, and I’m not even talking about Turner. Walker seems to be a big one, and I actually like Walker a lot. I give them an A for plugging holes, but they paid a premium.
Damn Von u and I are on the same page and posted at the exact same time lol
Walker seems to have settled in as a 5 inning pitcher.
DD keeps adding to the bullpen – it’ll be needed.
I gave them a C. They did what needed to be done. Did they get any bargains? The best guy? Impressive next level moves? To me they didn’t so no B or A. Definitely a playoff team and could win the division. I am taking the Braves but only because they haven’t let me down yet but this season they have the worst odds to do so the last 5 years. I won’t be putting any $ on them for sure.
Trea Turner is a top guy for sure. No problem with your ranking, but Turner is a top 20 player IMO.
Turner currently is a stud. No argument here. Just giving the best available player the most $ is a C move. Anyone could have done it so not going to go crazy over it. A C is a good passing grade. I am fine with their pitching additions. Did they get the best or best values available? No. But they addressed it with good solid players.
They have as good a chance at winning a championship as anyone. Maybe Houston has a bit better odds.
YourDreamGM9 hours ago
Turner currently is a stud. No argument here. Just giving the best available player the most $ is a C move.
That’s exactly the way I saw it. More like a B-/C+. But that’s the same with a lot of GMs.
@JoeBrady Gotta save my A’s for teams trading with the Oakland A’s. Or doing team friendly extensions.
They technically didn’t give Turner the most money, as pointed out in this article. But I still get your point.
Not a clever name
Sam gulf doesn’t get any credit having been an A?
@aYourDream, the Padres actually offered Turner more $ than the Phillies. So the notion that the Phillies simply just offered him the most and anyone could(as Padres had) is false.
@Tigers3232 My bad. I didn’t realize Turner was exempt from paying taxes. He really really loves that east coast to take 40 million less.
Did the Padres offer more than the Phillies or no? You can do the math if u want on half the home games and the tax rates for all road games and get a figure if u want. And he grew up in FLA went to college in N.C. so yes he very well might have just wanted to play in eastern U.S.. I believe I also read that he wanted to play with Harper again.
Comparing the pitchers out and the pitchers in I don’t see much improvement. There’s certainly an offensive upgrade but I don’t know if that’s the best way to a championship.
It’s important to remember that some of those guys barely pitched last year. Eflin was hurt. Thor joined the team after the deadline. So I don’t see the losses and additions as 1 for 1. I wish they kept Eflin, but TB gave a lot of money to a guy who was always hurt.
They didn’t need much or any improvement. They have 3 playoff arms. Added a solid #4. Only ? Would be if they have enough depth for the 5 spot. I don’t follow them close enough to know but you should have 2 guys to battle and 2 more in AAA ready for mlb.
They have the number one pitching prospect, and they wanted him in the rotation this year, but he felt soreness in Spring Training. In fact, a number of the solid backend options are facing Spring Training injury concerns. So they had plenty of depth, but now it’s becoming a valid cause for alarm.
I loved the Taijuan move that went super under the radar. Maybe a bit of an overpay as it may be asking a lot for him to keep up his decent velocity for four more years; but for this year he is a much needed stabilizer for that staff…and I know he’s eager to get back to the playoffs and get in there. His only career playoff start was a doozy.
But yeah, huge move for 2023. That put the grade at A for me with the team getting so close last year; and the Front Office answering the call, very nicely played.
Wacha is pretty much the same pitcher and is making $24 over 4 yrs
I’d take Walker over Wacha any day, but Walker was overpaid for sure.
@twiker wahca a is also hurt most of the time, unless he figured out his stress fractures in his shoulder
Nola is making two million dollars less than Taijuan this year. Wow.
All of us in Philly are holding daily prayer offerings that DD/Middleton are deep in negotiations with Nola’s camp…..It was posted a couple weeks ago they exchanged numbers…
Solid 86 win team
The interesting thing about letting Zach Eflin go in free agency where he hooked onto a 3 year / $40m deal with the Rays is this – many MLB FO execs not only liked the signing, they thought it was one of the best in the offseason.
Impatient waiting for the season to start. Lots of surprises coming!
Baseball guys have been in love with Eflin’s stuff for years. When Cotham got there they dropped a bit of the high fastball routine, which was good for him……
Phillies were not going 3/40 for Eflin period.
Am glad he got his contract and TB should be able to unlock some stuff. The health will always be an issue……?
When did Stubbs get hurt?
Stubbs got hurt in the WBC playing for Israel.
Stubbs will be ok. He was interviewed today on the Phillies – Blue Jays telecast. Stubbs said he will be ready for opening day.
Honestly, might finish 2nd with the way things have been going for the Mets. Not that far of a stretch.
Eflin is looking solid this ST. Called it at the time of the signing and I still believe that he will be great for Rays. He will repeat his 2020 numbers across a full season for them and be traded in year 2.
The Rays could sign someone to a $100 million contact with a career ERA of 6 and I’d still say it’s a great signing because it’s the Rays and pitching.
I still get a laugh that the pirates signed two cricket players out of India to try them out as pitchers and one eventually became a professional wrestler.
But, the rays just take journeymen, already in professional ball at some level, and consistently identify the seemingly ideal approach for them to succeed.
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Beans: Eflin always looks good until he goes down with an injury. I liked him a lot while he was with us in Philly, but reliability isn’t his strong suit. That said, I wish him all the luck in the world in Tampa. Might even be the surprise SP in the AL East.
Rays gave a ton of money to a guy who didn’t really start last year. I’m a huge Led Eflin fan, but that signing wasn’t without significant risk. If another team made that signing, fans would likely criticize it, but we tend to trust the Rays moves.
Efflin has a fairly long history of injuries. Like Von Hayes said, the Phillies weren’t giving him a 3 year deal.
If he can stay healthy (and that’s a BIG if).
I’m always hesitant to question the Rays moves. They seem to b right far more than they are wrong.
I would not be surprised to see the Phillies finish ahead of the Mets in the NL East.
NL East should b an exciting race this fall. Braves, Mets, and Phillies all look strong.
When the Phillies play the Blue Jays in Dunedin during Spring Training, I see DD at every game in the stands behind home plate in section 207R, keeping score. The man runs the baseball operations of a MLB team and keeps his own scorecard for spring training games. At the last game, his GM sat next to him for the entire game. The Phillies also bring a large number of scouts to these games. At one game, I counted eight Phillies employees sitting in our section.
I rarely see other GMs during Spring Training, but I have seen DD at every Phillies game I have attended. Admittedly, the drive to TD Ballpark from the Phillies facility is a short one, more determined by traffic lights than by miles, but that is impressive.
DD may have flaws (see farm systems) but he seems to know what is needed for a “win now” approach.
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farscott: Good point about DD and his scorecard. Scored top tix a few years back for a Red Sox vs. Phillies ST game at Jet Blue Park. DD was too my left across the aisle, and, yes, he was keeping score.
Mr. Dombrowski is not “keeping score” any more than a scout does.
He’s documenting what he sees from individual players, then getting passing on comments to his FO people and manager.
The Phillies turned into a developmental organization since he got there. They weren’t “lucky” in 2022, they made players better. DD has been in MLB well over 40 years. He’s run successful farm systems. He knows the business from the ground up. He’s not only overseeing players being brought along, he’s bringing younger FO people scouts and coaches along as well. That’s what a POBO’s job is.
They were basically the same team as 2021, only adding Schwarber and Castellanos. The only noticeable improvement was from Nola, who reverted back to his 2017-2020 numbers. Past that, promoting Stott to replace Didi and getting Dominguez back from the IL was about it. And Sosa was a nice depth move.
They also added Marsh at the deadline, quite possible tge most important addition because they haven’t had a capable CF since Shane Victorino.
They were lucky in two major ways, Samuel. They made the postseason with only 87 wins and a 3rd-place finish because of the expanded playoffs. And then they got even luckier during the crap shoot that is the playoffs and were able to advance to the Series.
I assume you don’t watch the Phillies much…..
Improvement came from almost all of their players – most of the bullpen people they kept in 2022 (particularly José Alvarado along with Dominguez) ; Suarez (who was made a starter); Falter (who ate 84 innings for them).
Position players: Stubbs improved both as a handler of pitchers and with the bat – became one of the better back-up catchers in MLB. Stott improved as the year went on both O and D. Hoskins improved on D although he’s still not very good. Harper improved in the OF as did Schwarber and Castellanos; Bohm was pathetic playing 3B at the beginning of the year – he improved throught the season although he had a few bad stretches the coaches had to pull him out of. Hall was called up to DH when Harper got injured, they worked with him on hitting and he was productive as their clean-up hitter. Vierling, Maton, and Guthrie all came up and played multiple positions helping the team. Guys such as Moniak, Quinn , Herrera, Gregorius, Camargo and others were tried and either traded or released when they weren’t producing and the coaches couldn’t improve them.
I didn’t watch as many games as Von does, but I watched at least parts of 100. If you think I’m making this up, contact either a Phillies beat writer or one of their broadcasters via email- that have seen most if not all games – and I’m sure they’ll validate what I’m telling you.
Statistics are nice. But the overall public ones don’t remotely reflect a players productivity in the field as it relates to helping their team win games.
Dave Dombrowski is patient to a point. Then he cuts bait and finds someone else he thinks can work out….and he’ll keep doing that until he gets people that produce – which is why the good teams play better during the stretch runs and playoffs (as opposed to “they just got hot”). Heck, he did that with the manager he had when the 2022 season started.
They “got lucky” because they peaked at the right time.
The Guardians and Rays get lucky like that each year as well.
Hank The one problem with this statement is that the Phillies were one of the best teams in baseball after July. Firing Girardi, allowing Stott to play, trading for Marsh and Thor and finally getting healthy really moved the needle. It’s not like the Phillies were a complete Cinderella team…they were expected to do well, underformed early on, and put it together for a decent stretch before the playoffs even started. People weren’t shocked to see them do well in the playoffs, but Houston is clearly a tier above, so that would’ve been shocking.
Great post Samuel, you saved me 15 minutes of angry typing and let me enjoy my last cup of coffee! reading it – thank you…..
And when does the moratorium end on “But they only made the playoffs because of expanded playoffs” ?
It really is tiring. The Phils took advantage of new rules. People just don’t like Philly and some have a large distaste in change, so I get it.
But at some point the 3rd WC will win the WS…..
It’s almost like if Seager, who was shifted on like 90% of the time wins the batting title, will “those people” be like:
Oh man he really didn’t win anything cause they banned the shift?
Almost time to “shift” to a beer myself…
They finally unlocked Alvarado (after his demotion in June). That coupled with Dominguez, made a major difference in the bullpen. Schwarber, replacing Mc Cutchen in left field was a monumental upgrade.
I gave them an A for the off season. What Dave D. and Sam Fuld did was to put themselves in a good position to be a playoff team. That being said, they’re in a tough division and they were fortunate .just to get to the World Series last year. Get into the playoffs and any thing can happen.
I also think that , not having the best minor league system when he came over, David D. has quietly. built some minor league depth not a thing that he was noted for.
” David D. has quietly. built some minor league depth not a thing that he was noted for.”
Mr. Dombrowski was known for having a top-flite minor league system in Montreal. He took over the Tigers when their farm system was awful and built that up to get players that made that team a contender for years. Yes, he traded off prospects for veterans in both Detroit and Boston as those teams were contending. But as an anti-Dombrowski Red Sox poster noted a few months ago here – half of the top prospects in the current Red Sox farm system were bought in during Dombrowski’s tenure.
It’s a joke to baseball people when fans say Dave Dombrowski is not noted for doing good things with a farm system….and yes, since he came to the Phillies their farm system has improved noticeably.
Samuel the DD destroying farms is such a lazy take.
I get we all have our opinions, some well informed, some not so well informed and some just for the hot take.
When he has taken over a franchise he’s not loyal (at all) to those drafted before he got there AND we all know MLB teams over value their prospects. He quickly moved on from Haseley, shipped out Moniak last year and this year Maton, Vierling and Sands. The two 1st rounders were previous busts and I liked Maton and Vierling, but seriously, they were depth pieces.
Vierling had no clear path to playing time here, sure he brought “energy”, but to get Soto, they had to move on….
Everyone will bring up O’Hoppe, but tbh, without Marsh, they probably wouldn’t have made the playoffs last year. O’Hoppe has great potential for sure. Marsh was a top 50 prospect and is controllable until ’27. So we’ll see how it eventually pans out.
If you’re still checking in, here’s a response to your last 2 comments…..
Human Nature is to be lazy and buy into narratives as opposed to actually looking into something, researching it, and becoming a critical thinker (a trait now gone from most of America’s population).
Most fans here did not see the Phillies play much in 2022, if at all. They bought into the bad defense, bad bullpen, and DD knowing nothing about farm systems narrative. To most here “back in the day” is 2017. That’s ancient history. They’ll look at general publicly available stats for an entire year and draw conclusions. Most have played little baseball other then maybe whiffle ball. Many play Rotisserie League and cannot differentiate that from Major League baseball (including many of the writers). So when a team outperforms their expectations they fall into degrees of: “They got lucky”. On the other hand, if a team like the Mets or Yankees underperforms their expectations they fall into: “Look at the injuries they had” (as if every other team didn’t).
I love MLB and generally follow 4-6 teams a year via MLB.TV – and in doing so see most of the other teams when they play them. I wish more people that follow a team closely would come on here and post so readers of the comment section could get a better understanding of what players were used in what roles and how they performed in them. The other day I read a nice quote (elsewhere) in an article on the Rays from their GM: He said he didn’t care if a player could help a team primarily on O or D – if they could help the team win the Rays would find a spot for them in games. Most people here are baffled by the Rays and say things like: I don’t know how they keep doing it, and although I don’t understand their moves I’ve learned better than to question them.
@samuel I agree with you about human nature unfortunately. I try to avoid that trap. One of the phrases I stole from my pop goes something like _I am smart enough to know, I do not know everything….
Do I fail sometimes, of course, but more often than not I avoid it….
The whole Phillies trope are the illegitimate children of espn. Adopt a few broad stroked comments to fill space then there is less time to actually produce original thought. You see it a lot here.
That Rays quote reminds me of a Belichick quote from a few years ago
I only really follow the Phillies and have for decades. Each year a few different teams peak my interest and I keep an eye on them.. But avoid acting like I am fully knowledgeable…..
Opening night is not far away!
So about 55% of voters are haters ? Yeah that seems right. Can’t give Phili an A then you can’t give any A’s out
I’m fine with Bs as well. I don’t see how anyone can honestly give them a D or F. That’s just ridiculous. Even Cs seem way too low.
I get B for a lack of value moves. That’s as low as you can go though.
I voted A originally with this same complaint. I think B is probably more accurate.