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Gillick Visits Ricciardi
Phillies GM Pat Gillick swung by the Blue Jays' camp yesterday to talk some baseball with J.P. Ricciardi. The Globe and Mail's Jeff Blair writes that the Phils like Alex Rios and Dustin McGowan and are trying to trade Jon Lieber. Reed Johnson could be a more reasonable bounty for Lieber.
As Blair says, the Jays want to see what they've got first. And I'm not sure why the Phillies would be actively trying to acquire an outfielder with Burrell, Rowand, and Victorino under contract. That looks like a decent outfield to me. The Phillies are weak in the bullpen.
If the Jays are to part with Rios, a star in the making, they need a frontline starter. They were asking for quite a bit back in January - Brett Myers or Chad Billingsley and then some. A month before that, Buster Olney first mentioned that Rios could be available for Brad Penny or Joe Blanton.
The only name I've heard here that really makes sense is Myers, and the Phils probably didn't just sign him with the intent of trading him. Billingsley would certainly be a nice return for Toronto, but the Dodgers don't need Rios.
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Ohka and THomson are shitty answers to the 4 and 5 spots. I'd be surprised if at least 1 of them became a league average pitcher and not a disaster, and my money is on Thomson. Lieber is not worth giving up much for, but the Jays have a glut of AAA pitchers, headed by Rosario who is out of options, and I think a fair trade would be one or two of those guys for a 1 year rental of the old Lieber. And I'm not talking Dustin McGowan, he shouldn't be looking to give up a top prospect in their thin system here...plenty of our AAA pitchers could probably do well in the NL as a reliever.
Posted by: Guitar Hero | March 01, 2007 at 02:02 PM
I'm thinking along the lines of Accardo, Rosario, Ismael Ramirez, etc.
This glut could hopefully be used to get an extra shortstop floating around....there had to be better options than Royce Clayton, like Callaspo, Joel Guzman, Aybar, etc...
Having Lieber, well I don't know if he'd do that good either, but more and more depth helps considering the how bare the cupboard is for relievers and rotaiton quality wise.
Posted by: Guitar Hero | March 01, 2007 at 02:04 PM
As a Mets fan, I would hate to see the Phills acquire Rios. They would be able to move Victorino over to CF, stick Rios in RF, and ship Rowand off for some RP help.
Although, if I were Philly, I would hang on to Lieber. Hamels is bound to get injured at some point, and Moyer and Eaton aren't exactly rock solid.
Posted by: JerseyMetFan | March 01, 2007 at 02:14 PM
Rios, Lieber, and McGowan shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence. Unfortunately, JP can't be trusted when in the same room as Gillick. Keep them away!
Posted by: Guitar Hero | March 01, 2007 at 02:16 PM
JerseyMetFan you shouldn't be allowed to talk anymore.... Eaton yeah will probably get hurt.... But Hamels and Moyer ??? Get educated then post....
Also, a precursor to any Rios deal would be Rowand going to San Diego for Linebrink.... It would have to be to free up an outfield spot for Rios.... So, alot of things would have to fall into place for something like this happen...
Posted by: allabouthephils | March 01, 2007 at 02:53 PM
I really hope the phils aren't committed to trading Lieber, unless of course they landed Rios, but how could that be? I don't think the Phils current outfield will get them to the playoffs. Burrell might hit .240 with 25 homers. Rowand will probably hit .260 and 15-20 homers. Victorino's a wild card. That's not much in the same division as the Mets.
Posted by: jonny | March 01, 2007 at 03:34 PM
Roto you need a smarter group of followers.... You have a group of idiots reading your blogs.... Burrell hitting .240 with 25 homers... come off planet mars....
Posted by: allabouthephils | March 01, 2007 at 04:11 PM
Moyer is 44 years old. Yeah, he's thrown 200 innings consistently in the past, but his age will catch up to him sooner than later.
As far as Hamels goes...
Last season he pitched something like 180 innings between the minor leagues and the majors. A solid number, but that is A LOT of innings when you look at his past years. He's a good player, and he'll be very good pretty soon, but having a guy like Lieber around can't hurt.
Posted by: JerseyMetFan | March 01, 2007 at 04:16 PM
Burrell may be the most underrated player in the league. Too many Phills fans remember the strikeouts and the GIDPs, while ignoring the fact that he has had an OPS of .890 and .893 the past two seasons.
2007 Burrell:
.265 BA
.900 OPS
33 HR
Posted by: JerseyMetFan | March 01, 2007 at 04:18 PM
Rios would be a hefty price for lieber and a theft of a trade. No one mentioned this in the article: "Reed Johnson could be a more reasonable bounty for Lieber."
That trade would make more sense for the jays. They get their proven starter and Lind would be able to come into the lineup to provide a much needed left handed bat
Posted by: lat3ralus | March 02, 2007 at 06:17 AM
Rios is not being traded for Lieber. Period. Not gonna happen, not even close. He's old and has 1 year left and may suck in the AL East. Johnson is still under contract for 3 years, apparently. Why give up on 3 years of a guy for 1 year of Lieber?
Posted by: Guitar Hero | March 02, 2007 at 08:25 AM
Phily can keep Lieber, i wouldnt want him in Toronto even for Johnson. Ohka and Thomson(if theyre both healthy) could do just as well as Lieber IMO.
now if the Phillies want Rios and McGowan they can be more realistic and offer Myers.
Posted by: SpecialFNK | March 02, 2007 at 11:17 AM
allaboutthephils. Hamels has an extremely long list of random injuries, and Moyer is what like 45? Its not outside the realm of possibility for one or both of them to go down for a period of time.
Posted by: nrmax88 | March 03, 2007 at 02:42 AM
allaboutthephils. Hamels has an extremely long list of random injuries, and Moyer is what like 45? Its not outside the realm of possibility for one or both of them to go down for a period of time.
Posted by: nrmax88 | March 03, 2007 at 02:42 AM
Burrell hitting .240 with 25 homers is ludicrous? He's averaged .251 and 26.5 over the last 4 years, with a .209 average and 21 homers in 2003. And, after 45 AB this spring, he's hitting .178 with 2 homers . . . wait, after tonight's 2 for 4, he's at .204 with 3. he's a poor-hitting head-case, but he has power. who have you guys been watching?
Posted by: jonny | March 27, 2007 at 09:31 PM